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Offline Catholic Knight

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Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2025, 12:44:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on July 10, 2025, 10:00:24 AM
    I think that is supposed to refer to "idols"- not valid Bishops.

    Could it possibly be that Hewko is wrong about this?

    I was there when Bishop Williamson said his "go to the NO" video from 2015-
    I spoke to the lady that he was addressing. She was a guest at the Confirmation , had no understanding of Tradition and was crying when +Williamson stated that the NO would make you lose your Faith.

    This is not the type of person you tell to stay home and read your missal until you can get to a TLM. She was totally clueless and felt like the Bishop was telling her to leave Catholicism.

    She needed months of conversion/instruction and and immersion and even then it's questionable if she would have understood. To be honest she was holding on to the NO for dear life.

    He admitted that he should have never addressed it on camera and that it was a mistake.

    Bishop Williamson's fault was in being compassionate in public to a Lady unable to process the Truth , and of course, having it videotaped.

    Fr Hewko is too proud to even try and understand.
    His homily at his Requiem Mass for Bishop Williamson was just disgusting.

    "That is why I shall never celebrate the Holy Mass according to this new rite, even if I am threatened with ecclesiastical sanctions; and I shall never advise anyone in a positive manner to take an active part in such a Mass."

    Declaration of Fidelity to the Positions of the Society of St. Pius X
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    Offline Michelle

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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #31 on: July 10, 2025, 02:49:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on July 10, 2025, 10:00:24 AM
    I think that is supposed to refer to "idols"- not valid Bishops.

    Could it possibly be that Hewko is wrong about this?

    I was there when Bishop Williamson said his "go to the NO" video from 2015-
    I spoke to the lady that he was addressing. She was a guest at the Confirmation , had no understanding of Tradition and was crying when +Williamson stated that the NO would make you lose your Faith.

    This is not the type of person you tell to stay home and read your missal until you can get to a TLM. She was totally clueless and felt like the Bishop was telling her to leave Catholicism.

    She needed months of conversion/instruction and and immersion and even then it's questionable if she would have understood. To be honest she was holding on to the NO for dear life.

    He admitted that he should have never addressed it on camera and that it was a mistake.

    Bishop Williamson's fault was in being compassionate in public to a Lady unable to process the Truth , and of course, having it videotaped.

    Fr Hewko is too proud to even try and understand.
    His homily at his Requiem Mass for Bishop Williamson was just disgusting.
    The Novus Ordo is a false, Masonic, man centered religion.  It can never be an act of compassion to instruct a soul to remain involved in it no matter how many tears are shed.  Participating in false worship is a grave mortal sin.  It is precisely the duty of a bishop to point out the errors and bring souls to the truth faith.
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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #32 on: July 10, 2025, 04:00:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on July 10, 2025, 10:00:24 AM
    I think that is supposed to refer to "idols"- not valid Bishops.

    Could it possibly be that Hewko is wrong about this?

    I was there when Bishop Williamson said his "go to the NO" video from 2015-
    I spoke to the lady that he was addressing. She was a guest at the Confirmation , had no understanding of Tradition and was crying when +Williamson stated that the NO would make you lose your Faith.

    This is not the type of person you tell to stay home and read your missal until you can get to a TLM. She was totally clueless and felt like the Bishop was telling her to leave Catholicism.

    She needed months of conversion/instruction and and immersion and even then it's questionable if she would have understood. To be honest she was holding on to the NO for dear life.

    He admitted that he should have never addressed it on camera and that it was a mistake.

    Bishop Williamson's fault was in being compassionate in public to a Lady unable to process the Truth , and of course, having it videotaped.

    Fr Hewko is too proud to even try and understand.
    His homily at his Requiem Mass for Bishop Williamson was just disgusting.

     +W didn’t have an SSPX Resistance battle plan.

    His lose association of Bishops and priests never worked and we see the fruit, it’s lack of organization today.



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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #33 on: July 10, 2025, 05:31:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Michelle on July 10, 2025, 02:49:05 PM
    The Novus Ordo is a false, Masonic, man centered religion.  It can never be an act of compassion to instruct a soul to remain involved in it no matter how many tears are shed.  Participating in false worship is a grave mortal sin.  It is precisely the duty of a bishop to point out the errors and bring souls to the truth faith.
    While fundamentally you are correct, practically speaking Bishops have to deal with people where they are at including all different levels of understanding, all different intellectual capacities and different emotional states and reactions. 
    He admitted to making a mistake, but his "mistake" was in dealing compassionately with a crying clueless woman in a public venue. 
    I guess he should have slapped the old lady down and chastised her publicly, which of course he didn't. 
    Her presence there was incidental with complete misunderstanding of what was going on and what was being said. 
    Everyone knew Bishop Williamson's positions on the New Mass and His courage fighting for truth against the jews and even the SSPX. No one south of Archbishop LeFebvbre has had the courage and to withstand the barrage of the world for the sake of tradition like Bishop Williamson. 
    It would be good of Fr Hewko to forgive him, if Fr Hewko has the ability to do it.
     
    Bishop Williamson certainly would have forgiven him Pablo and "Bishop Moran" if he had asked for it.
     
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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #34 on: July 10, 2025, 05:32:31 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on July 10, 2025, 04:00:29 PM

     +W didn’t have an SSPX Resistance battle plan.

    His lose association of Bishops and priests never worked and we see the fruit, it’s lack of organization today.
    This , I admit is  true.
    There is no cohesiveness in the Resistance or with Resistance Bishops
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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #35 on: July 10, 2025, 05:33:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Catholic Knight on July 10, 2025, 12:44:25 PM
    "That is why I shall never celebrate the Holy Mass according to this new rite, even if I am threatened with ecclesiastical sanctions; and I shall never advise anyone in a positive manner to take an active part in such a Mass."

    Declaration of Fidelity to the Positions of the Society of St. Pius X
    Bishop Williamson never said the new mass
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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #36 on: July 11, 2025, 06:55:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on July 10, 2025, 05:33:34 PM
    Bishop Williamson never said the new mass

    "I shall never advise anyone in a positive manner to take an active part in such a Mass."
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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #37 on: July 11, 2025, 08:59:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: Catholic Knight on July 11, 2025, 06:55:51 AM
    "I shall never advise anyone in a positive manner to take an active part in such a Mass."
    Why the repetition?
    Why be cryptic and just say what you mean?
    If that's a quote from Bishop Williamson , it's a good quote.
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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #38 on: July 11, 2025, 11:14:57 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on July 11, 2025, 08:59:14 AM
    Why the repetition?
    Why be cryptic and just say what you mean?
    If that's a quote from Bishop Williamson , it's a good quote.
    Read the original quote above again, you will see it is from the "Declaration of Fidelity to the Positions of the Society of St. Pius X"

    Also, he is not being cryptic, but he is making an assumption that you are familiar with the controversy that started in 2016 in which the Bishop "advised" the lady.
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    Re: Can we say Fr Hewko is
    « Reply #39 on: July 11, 2025, 04:01:32 PM »
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    • I surmised where it was from eventually- why the repetition?
    Willianson didn't advise it in a positive manner - he acquiesced due to her ignorance and circuмstance- and he apologized for it.
    Are you that critical of Fellay and all of his concessions? 
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