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Author Topic: Bsp. Williamson: "Belief in N.O. Eucharistic Miracles Necessary for Holy Oils"  (Read 28048 times)

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Offline gladius_veritatis

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On Thursday, April 20, 2023, Bishop Williamson replies:

Reverend,

When you deny the genuinely scientific evidence in favor of miracles taking place at Novus Ordo Masses said by Novus Ordo priests consecrated by Novus Ordo bishops, such as happened in Sokolka, Poland, in 2008, you are not living in the same world or Church as I am.

Please resort to any bishop who shares your own attitude towards reality. Please do not ask me again for Oils for as long as you are defying reality.


With good wishes, in Christo,

Bp. Williamson

Nonsense.  All defense and rationalization of the above is absurd -- ALL "context" aside.

Offline Matthew

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Wasn't Fr. Chazal with Fr. Pfeiffer's group at one time? Maybe I'm not remembering that correctly.

Don't get confused.


Fr. Chazal calls his group the MC-SPX

That name is superficially similar to what Fr. P called his group (SSPX-MC). But there is no connection.

It was pointed out to him that this could confuse people. They both have "Marian Corps" in the name.


Online Stubborn

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You’re in a rut.  This has already been explained to you.
Sean, the OP shows that the reason Fr. Hewko wants the Holy Oil is for extreme unction: "Your Excellency, all I'm requesting are the basic tools for saving souls! Baptisms and Extreme Unctions cannot be given without Holy Oils (aside from emergency baptisms). Why would a differing opinion be an obstacle to receiving Holy Oils?"

When a soul is in their last agony, even a heretical, excommunicated apostate priest who hates and always slanders +Williamson can validly administer Extreme Unction. All I will say, and I hate to say it, is +Williamson will be in big trouble with Our Lord if it ends up that a soul in need of the sacrament does not receive it due to his decision. 

As greatly as I respect +Williamson, he is gravely wrong here. He just is.

Sean, the OP shows that the reason Fr. Hewko wants the Holy Oil is for extreme unction: "Your Excellency, all I'm requesting are the basic tools for saving souls! Baptisms and Extreme Unctions cannot be given without Holy Oils (aside from emergency baptisms). Why would a differing opinion be an obstacle to receiving Holy Oils?"

When a soul is in their last agony, even a heretical, excommunicated apostate priest who hates and always slanders +Williamson can validly administer Extreme Unction. All I will say, and I hate to say it, is +Williamson will be in big trouble with Our Lord if it ends up that a soul in need of the sacrament does not receive it due to his decision. 

As greatly as I respect +Williamson, he is gravely wrong here. He just is.

The ends don’t justify the means.

According to your rationale, every bishop is required to give oils to every priest who comes knocking, no matter what crazy and/or heretical positions he holds (eg., Pope Michael, or Palmar de Troya), simply because these renegades have duped some faithful.

But giving such renegades oils only enables their poisoned ministry, and THAT is what a bishop needs to worry about (particularly when Hewko’s dupes have many other priests from whom they can receive extreme unction, but choose not to).  If they choose to exclude all those priests because of Hewko’s indoctrination, that’s on them, not Williamson.

From a former Hewkonian:

22.  As we have been manipulated by Fathers Pfeiffer and  Hewko to think of and label Bishop Williamson and his flock of faithful sheep as the “fake and false Resistance”, the damage has been great to the Catholic Resistance at large.  The terms “fake and false Resistance” were devised in order to control the faithful in a propaganda campaign against the Bishop Williamson enemies of the so called “true Resistance”.  We have been deceived and divided by what can be argued as a personal battle between the leaders of Boston, Kentucky and their adherents with those who follow Bishop Williamson as their leader.  This has been devastating to the Resistance fight for the Catholic Faith. When will Father Hewko do the right thing, and repair the damage that he has caused?”

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/problems-questions-and-considerations-regarding-fr-hewko/