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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #210 on: July 12, 2024, 12:48:00 PM »

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In regards to Jorge Bergoglio, he was invalidly elected, and today he is prevented from acquiring the papacy through universal and peaceful acceptance because of his public heresy.  Public heresy is a divine impediment.
So Francis was invalidly elected because the resignation procedures related to Benedict weren't followed?


And when did Francis commit public heresy?
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Offline songbird

Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #211 on: July 12, 2024, 02:51:33 PM »
Heresy?  Maybe saying the counterfeit Mass for over 60 years.  For a start.
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Offline Catholic Knight

Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #212 on: July 14, 2024, 06:58:54 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on July 12, 2024, 12:48:00 PM
So Francis was invalidly elected because the resignation procedures related to Benedict weren't followed?


And when did Francis commit public heresy?

Francis was invalidly elected because Benedict XVI did not renounce the papal office.

To your second question, really?
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Offline pnw1994

Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #213 on: July 14, 2024, 08:21:52 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Knight on July 14, 2024, 06:58:54 PM
Francis was invalidly elected because Benedict XVI did not renounce the papal office.

To your second question, really?
I think a question of equal merit, to piggyback off of Pax Vobis, would be: 

When has Francis, by word or deed, professed a heresy that his conciliar predecessors Benedict XVI and JP2 and Paul VI etc, did NOT also profess? Are you able to provide specific examples? 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: BREAKING: Archbishop Viganò Summoned to Vatican Tribunal on Charge of Schism
« Reply #214 on: July 14, 2024, 09:20:53 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Knight on July 14, 2024, 06:58:54 PM
Francis was invalidly elected because Benedict XVI did not renounce the papal office.

To your second question, really?

So which one is it ...

1) not pope because he wasn't validly elected?
2) not pope because of public heresy?

Those two are mutually exclusive.  If he wasn't validly elected, then he couldn't be ipso facto deposed on account of heresy, since there's nothing for him to be deposed from.  If he was deposed for public heresy, then that presumes he was valid in the first place.

This demonstrates again that you just don't want Jorge to be the pope, but want the pre-Bergoglians to be legitimate, and so you come up with whatever reason you want to throw at the wall to make him a non-pope.

There's no heresy other than that in Amoris Laetitia that his predecessors did not also hold and in fact originated.  Period.
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