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Is Plaan to Prootect Abuse Protection still in Canada?
« on: June 18, 2024, 12:47:59 PM »
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  • Just wondering if Plaan (sic) to Prrotect (sicker) is still being used in the neoSSPX Canadian District. ... On February 25, 2013, SSPX Canada became a member and was licensed by Plan. to. Prot.... Kennedy Hall sort of makes reference of it here, but doesn't actualy mention P2Pee because it is a REGISTURD Trade mark ...???

    Immediately following this' meretradition' excerpt there is an answer from P2Pee(#17) regarding trans


    https://meretradition.substack.com/p/father-rostand-abuse-case-the-full
    April 17, 2024
    excerpt:
    ...Furthermore, Father Sherry appeared on my podcast last summer and explained exactly how the SSPX deals with suspected abusers or abusers under investigation. I personally underwent the children protection training that the SSPX uses in Canada when I was doing some coaching at an academy, and I can attest that the training is as or more comprehensive than anything I went through when in the publicly-funded school system. Furthermore, all those who work with minors and vulnerable adults are required to renew their training every year.

    The video should be set at the correct moment in our interview where explained the process, if it isn’t, the relevant portion is at 1:50:00 of the interview. Also, I will add, that the present administration of the SSPX in Canada confirmed to me that this is and has been the policy and there are no exceptions permitted....
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    It is quite difficult to navigate tis site if you are not enrolled. There is an annual fee for using their program.
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    They show 17 questions, and many clarifications, which are useful for knowing what we are up against.
    Even their big paperback manual has no page folios, sections here and there, so things are obscure, on purpose I think.

    https://www.plantoprotect.com/calendar/faqs/#rightsa
    17. Social/Human Rights Issues

    17a) Q: We have a Jr. High student that informed us he is transitioning. The student has asked not to use the male bathroom and change room, rather the female bathroom and change room.  Can we put a policy in place that states the student must use the bathroom of the gender of birth?

    A:We understand that there are private schools and public school districts in Canada and United States that have strict policies in place mandating what bathroom students must use.  Recently, changes have been made in many Provinces and States adding gender identity as an individual’s human right (meaning an individual’s gender identity is determined not by the gender of their birth, but the self-identify and of the individual).

    At Plan to Protect® our mission is to provide the HIGHEST standard of abuse prevention and protection for organizations servicing the vulnerable sector.  Therefore, we would encourage our clients to create a safe environment for all individuals, including the Jr. High student that is asking for accommodation.

    More and more organizations are providing universal / all gender, barrier free washrooms.  We would recommend you provide this option. Where change-rooms do not have separate privacy stalls, reasonable accommodations should be provided on a case-by-case basis that endeavors to effectively meet the individual’s particular needs.

    This student needs protection and freedom from isolation, bullying, discrimination or harassment. This is an opportunity to live out your organization’s vision and mission, and to extend welcome and care.

    This also provides an opportunity to strengthen you bullying policies, and your harassment and discrimination policies.


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    [In 2021, the USA District was very pleased with the "Experts" of Plaan to Prootect. I have a screen shot of the P2Pee article named:  //plantoprotect.website/en/sspx-under-expert-guidance-plan-protect (R)-created-protection-program]
    For guests try: /apr.sspx.org/en/frequently-asked-questions-35632

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    What is the history of and the relationship with the SSPX and Plan to Protect®?

    While District Superior in Canada, Fr. Jurgen Wegner began looking for assistance writing Abuse Prevention and Awareness policy. After researching multiple companies, Father decided to move ahead with Plan to Protect®. They were chosen because they were known, in Canada, for having the Highest Standards for Protection and worked with a wide range of organizations. Additionally, partnering with a company outside of the Catholic Church would show that he wasn’t hiding anything. On February 25, 2013, SSPX Canada became a member and was licensed by Plan to Protect®. When Fr. Wegner became District Superior in the United States, he brought Plan to Protect® with him, and on May 9, 2016, SSPX US District became a licensed member.  As of June 1, 2023, the SSPX US District is no longer a licensed member of Plan to Protect® in lieu of an independent auditor to ensure the same standards are being met.



    Is the policy made available to the general public and parents?

    No, our policy is an internal docuмent meant for those working in our apostolate. We make all necessary information available and are always willing to answer questions. However, due to proprietary information associated with the company Plan to Protect® contained in the manual, the policy is not made available to the public.

    Why is an abuse awareness, prevention and response program necessary in SSPX priories, chapels, and schools?

    Churches and schools are a natural place of trust and, unfortunately, history has shown this makes them vulnerable to abuse. The SSPX Plan to Protect® program is intended to make our clergy, employees, volunteers and parents more aware of the warning signs of abuse and how to prevent it. Additionally, the program is dedicated to timely response and investigation to allegations of abuse in any form. In an effort to ensure everyone’s safety, all SSPX clergy, employees, and volunteers are required to be screened and trained to appropriate levels.

    Who runs the SSPX Abuse Prevention and Response program for the US District?

    Primarily, the SSPX Committee comprised of an SSPX priest and 4 laypeople (currently 2 men and 2 women from various backgrounds) oversees the creation and implementation of the programs and policies, as well as the training for the SSPX US District.

    Who is the Director of SSPX Abuse Prevention and Response?

    Mr. Deryk Petersen is the Director of SSPX Abuse Prevention and Response, US District. Deryk became the director in September of 2021 after retiring from a 27 year career as a submarine officer in the US Navy. During his career, he spent 12 years leading submarine crews conducting national security missions around the world. During the last few years, he ran a program for the US Navy in Europe and Africa working with sailors who had been victims of abuse or assault, as well as those falsely accused, providing them with reporting options, health resources, counseling, therapy and more.



    Who do I contact if I have more questions?

    For more information on SSPX Abuse Prevention and Response, call the APR Hotline at +1 (833) 727-7779. There is additional information available at a dedicated link on the sspx.org website or directly at: https://apr.sspx.org.

    Background Evaluations

    Does everyone who works or volunteers for the SSPX undergo a screening process?

    Yes, for our program to be successful, all clergy, employees and volunteers over the age of 18 must undergo an extensive screening process that includes criminal background checks (done by a 3rd party organization) as well as social media and reference checks (done by the SSPX US District). Additionally, there is a motor vehicle check for any individual responsible for driving children or chapel vehicles.

    Who evaluates the results of the screening process and determines if the individual is suitable for work with the SSPX?

    Supervisory personnel at SSPX US District evaluate the results of the background investigation to determine one’s eligibility for work within the apostolate.



    Are past mistakes held against individuals?

    As a Catholic organization we obviously recognize people will make mistakes and there is never intent to cause harm, public embarrassment or to condemn someone for life who is repentant and makes amends. However, we do have a zero tolerance for convicted sex offenders, who will never be allowed to work for the SSPX in the future. All other offenses are reviewed on a case-by-case basis and approved by either the prior of the particular chapel after consultation with the US District, or in more serious cases by the US District Superior or his delegate.


    Training

    What are the goals of the training?

    To make our clergy, employees, and volunteers aware of the warning signs (indicators) of abuse and how to respond if abuse is suspected. The most important goal of the training is to learn how to set parameters to prevent abuse from happening.

    Who conducts this training?

    Training sessions are conducted by one of the trained facilitators of the SSPX US District. The facilitators have received extensive training and certification by an independent, professional organization called Plan to Protect®.

    Who is required to attend the training?

    All clergy, employees and volunteers working in any capacity for chapels, activities, apostolates of the SSPX must attend the training session. We hope that everyone will willingly participate and acknowledge the importance of this commitment.

    After the initial training, how often are prevention methods updated?
    All clergy, employees and volunteers are required to attend a refresher training every year.


    Accusations and Allegations

    How does someone make a report of abuse?

    This site also allows for people to make reports using an online form or by calling a District hotline. If someone chooses to call the hotline to make a report, they will be called back within 24 hours by either a priest, a layperson (male or female) as they choose.

    What should I do if I suspect abuse or have concerns regarding a member of SSPX personnel?

    Any personnel of SSPX USA who have actual knowledge of or have responsible cause to suspect misconduct by any personnel of SSPX USA must report that information to the appropriate civil authorities immediately.  Once reported to the civil authorities we ask that the SSPX US District be made aware of the situation as well.

    What happens when a formal allegation is made?

    This process is defined on this site at: https://apr.sspx.org/en/what-happens-when-formal-allegation-made

    What is the Independent Review Board (IRB) and what is its function?

    The IRB is a consultative body whose job it is to advise the SSPX U.S. District Superior regarding the credibility of allegations of abuse and to recommend any precautionary restrictions that may need to be placed upon the accused. The IRB serves as a way to allow the laity to assist the clergy in the process of responding to allegations of abuse.

    If a priest has an active allegation against them, are they automatically removed from their office?

    Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty following an administrative or judicial penal process. Should it be deemed necessary to avoid scandal, protect witnesses, or restore justice, the SSPX U.S. District Superior may place precautionary restrictions on the accused, including the prohibition from exercising sacred ministry or from exercising his office during the pendency of the investigation. In view of the presumption of innocence, every effort must be made to protect the good name of the accused during the investigation.
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    Re: Is Plaan to Prootect Abuse Protection still in Canada?
    « Reply #1 on: June 18, 2024, 01:42:52 PM »
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  • Just wondering if Plaan (sic) to Prrotect (sicker) is still being used in the neoSSPX Canadian District. ... 
    Yes, P2P refresher course was last Saturday
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: Is Plaan to Prootect Abuse Protection still in Canada?
    « Reply #2 on: June 18, 2024, 02:46:46 PM »
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  • Okay, thanks for the info. May God bless you. !

    P2Pee is a Protestant undertaking.
    Carol Wiebe, represents the Christian and Missionary Alliance in Canada. 2007 incorporated Winning Inc, Now P2P. They collaborate with Word Alive Press.
    An example of their spirituality : Avoid pre-marital s*x because you could contract AIDS.
    near the beginning of the policy:paraphrased ...In partnership with all parents, we, as a church, seek to offer quality care ...

    Common samples of prayers are included. Why is a Catholic institution giving $$$ to a prot church, and get all the leaders and personnel indoctrinated with junk?
    I think neo SSPX priests / members just wants to avoid being sued, because parishioners used to be asked to sign a disclaimer: THOU shalt not sue! It really starts to be a spy environment, reporting a spanking, or stern discipline etc. is letting a 6 year old alone to walk home from school 'Child abuse?"
    So now, to be in contact with the youth groups/ choirs in sspx chapels, you gotta be woke...
     No more mentions from the pulpit of the sick in hospital needing visits or prayers...Corporal acts of mercy!! now, that is against the Privacy policy. So charity grows cold, real cold in Canada....Brrrrrrrrrrr

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    Re: Is Plaan to Prootect Abuse Protection still in Canada?
    « Reply #3 on: June 18, 2024, 05:49:44 PM »
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  • Does anyone read the bible? 

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    Re: Is Plaan to Prootect Abuse Protection still in Canada?
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  •    The neoSociety was/is promoting this organization.  Around 2015 , the canadian District was hoping to have all the faithful register with the chapels. Just remember that 99% of the churchgoers of the neoSspx are NOT members of the Society, they are simply catholic faithful;  as the neoSsp x  has  ZERO jurisdiction, but only supplied jurisdiction...that means that in a state of emergency, or circuмstances,  for example like getting married on an ocean cruiser where there is no bishop or diocese to perform/permit the ceremony, a priest on the cruise ship could legitimately / validly witness the marriage. Supplied jurisdiction is "one on one", meaning the faithful may request the sacraments from a  Priest. 
       Just perhaps the Society believes there is no longer an emergency: N.O. Bishops must grant permission for Marriages; approved by the modernist hierarchy in Argentina; judge of First Instance, permission for ordinations, confessions etc
       In 2015 my good buddy , already Resistance, went to confession at the local chapel. At that moment he was told that he was "using" the priests.
    Another example: A few weeks ago a good friend of mine asked neoSsp x  priest for confession. He was refused. The reason given was that because he did not attend the mass at neoSspx, he was not to get sacraments.!!!??? Doesn't the neoSspx remenber the First principle about how the Holy Roman Catholic Church operates? 

    '[Canon Law # 1752] The Supreme Law of the Catholic Church is the "Salvation of souls." That is the first objective. This Supreme Law concerns the clergy, the religious brothers and sisters, the faithful members of the Church and those who have yet to be converted. No one is excluded.'

    Why can't the canadian District follow the USA's lead (as of 2023, no longer licensed to use Plaan to Prot) , and compile their own CATHOLIC MANUAL for Abuse Prevention. P2P is miles away from even the most basic Catholic principles.  The Church militant is what we are, fighting the enemies of Jesus Christ, not a passive gob'ment 'yes'man. We must not follow evil laws.  All that is legal is not necessarily moral!!

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    Four years ago the Executive Director of a large community service agency asked me what our recommendations on the issue of transgender and gender dysphoria. This service organization had recently had boys asking to register for their all girl’s programs.  At the time, I did not have a well formulated, or well-researched response. I suggested they consult with a lawyer …  a safe answer as I didn’t have the answers to give.
    At the same time a four year old preschooler, Charlie L******n-R*****t, from Eastern Ontario, went to pre-school dressed as a girl, wearing nail polish and pink and purple clothes. He told teachers, “I’m a girl.”
    It wasn’t well-accepted. “They ostracized her,” Charlie’s mom said of school administrators.
    “They made her eat lunch alone. Even in line-ups in a hallway, she had to line up on the other side.”
    And then there was the bullying by other kids. “They hurt me physically and verbally,” says Charlie, now 9. “They’d give me noogies, they’d punch me; they’d bite me. They called me names. They started calling me ‘girlish boy.”‘
    Did the school administrators handle this correctly five years ago?
    Any educator would recognize that children that age often try on different roles, and some parents, teachers, and religious leaders try to talk the child out of it.
    Last summer, we received four phone calls from clients asking us how to handle a similar sensitive issue. In each scenario, there were children (as young as six) that were asking to use the bathroom of the opposite gender – indicating that is where they were more comfortable, due to their gender identity.  One of the clients, representing an overnight residential camp, had a fourteen-year-old camper who was in transition from being a girl to a boy.  The camper asked to sleep in the boy’s cabin.
    In 2016 this is not just a passing thing. For many children and adults, this is who they wish to be, and believe it is who they are. As schools, camps, churches, community centers, what should our response be?  Are we prepared for situations like this?
    At Plan to Protect® our vision and mission is to create safe environments for the vulnerable sector.  Safety for all, not just the majority, or the one’s we feel comfortable with.
    Whether we agree or disagree, the government calls on us to ensure we are not discriminating or harassing an individual. More recently, ‘gender identity’ has been added to the list of human rights.
    From a protection perspective, my question is how do we create safe environments for everyone, including Charlie?
    Mandating that Charlie uses the washroom of the gender of her birth is not safe for Charlie.  Is Charlie a danger to girls ... a danger to boys?  When you look into Charlie’s eyes and meet Charlie, you would be hard-pressed to believe that Charlie is a danger.
    For our many clients that represent faith communities, we are often reminded that all individuals are made in the image of God!  We want our churches to be a place of welcome and grace!
    Over the course of the past year we have attended seminars, read books, consulted with lawyers, politicians and child development and child protection experts on this issue.  What I am convinced of is that all children need protection, including this four-year-old.  Children need to be valued and loved! Children need to be welcomed! All children need to feel safe.
    Beyond extending a welcome, we need to move outside of our comfort zones.
    From our learnings, we now feel confident that we can make the following suggestions on how to create safe environments, in order not to ostracize individuals:
    Provide universal / barrier-free washrooms and change rooms.  (By the way, please don’t call them Handicap Washrooms).
    Deal with individuals on a case-by-case situation, as each story is unique, as is each individual.
    Adhere to a zero tolerance policy for bullying and harassment.
    Communicate options and solutions for parents and children alike so that everyone feels safe as the transition is made.
    Meet the boys and girls like Charlie, listen to their stories and honour their request to use the pronoun that they ask you to use.
    Educate your staff and volunteers as to a proper response.
    Establish policies on gender identity and gender expression.
    Keep personal information confidential, in locked, secure cabinets.
    Respect people’s needs for privacy.
    Continue to provide elevated supervision for areas of our buildings where the risk of abuse is high. With any organization that services the vulnerable sector, there will be individuals that take opportunities like this to have access to them.

    In closing, let’s Plan to Protect®!
    My concern is not whether Charlie is a safe 9-year-old.  I am deeply concerned about Charlie’s safety! I am deeply concerned about every child’s safety!
    In closing, four years ago, I was not educated on this issue.  Either was Charlie’s parents.  Without knowledge and education, we can be gripped with fear as society changes. Are your program personnel, Administrators, Teachers, leadership ready to manage this issue without harassing and discriminating, judgment and condemnation?  Will they bully Charlie?  Will you create an environment of welcome and grace?
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    Re: Is Plaan to Prootect Abuse Protection still in Canada?
    « Reply #5 on: July 18, 2024, 02:37:52 PM »
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  • Does anyone else find the response to what form of action they take if there is a case that arises under their watch not enough? “Case by case basis” and as long as they’re sorry and it’s just a harmless mistake… but what if it isn’t? Do we have to wait for them to be convicted to finally do something beside shuffle them around to different chapels? 
    Then if we do follow the P2P like good transparent citizens then why are our chapels and schools notorious for bullying issues? 
    Just like everything else in the Society this is just more lip service and keeping up appearances. 
    Please disregard everything I have said; I have tended to speak before fact checking.

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    Re: Is Plaan to Prootect Abuse Protection still in Canada?
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  • In 2014 -2015,  the NeoSspx priest was trying to get most everyone to sign up according to P2 P policy guide .The application form was 5 or more pages. In one section, you would sign on the dotted line............. , something like:  'Thou shalt not sue a member of the ss px, or any lead pastor/ personnel / ministry personnel.'. Maybe now you understand why very very few faithful would  or could report pedos etc. , let alone getting them convicted!!! 
    So the Plan is to protect children/vulnerable persons, but an outside observer can easily realize that neoSsp x doesn't want to be dragged in court and cough up huge fines or compensation.
    And P2 P just love the Canadian  " Child and Family Services Act". 





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