Author Topic: Bp de Galarreta Sermon (Read 6923 times)

cathman7 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 10, 2016, 04:14:19 AM »

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Does anyone know how the bishop is selected that will conduct the ordinations? I find it odd that Bishop de Gallaretta would celebrate the ordinations in the US when he is the only Bishop that doesn't speak Spanish. I know the other Bishops were present too. Interesting.

On this point there is nothing nefarious. The bishops have always rotated so as not to make it seem as if one bishop has "jurisdiction" over a certain territory. It really is that simple.

cathman7 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 10, 2016, 07:32:42 PM »

Can one of the moderators embed this? It is the sermon only from Bishop de Galaretta.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/dMnnfSjNItk[/youtube]

bishopcharriere · « **Reply #17 on:** June 10, 2016, 08:43:19 PM »

Oh hey, looky here:

Full Sermon from Ordinations 2016

bishopcharriere · « **Reply #18 on:** June 10, 2016, 08:58:41 PM »

STAS Link: http://www.stas.org/en/news-events/news/sermon-ordinations-mass-16519

mw2016 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 10, 2016, 11:00:30 PM »

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At the same time, we are amazed that there is no general reaction in the Church against these measures, that there is no group of Bishops or Cardinals who publicly oppose this scandal. This shows the gravity of Modernism, which firstly disarms, makes the antibodies disappear.

While there are some improvements, a certain dissolution of this spirit, regarding us it is always the same: to be recognized we will have to accept the conciliar novelties…

Not long ago, Pope Francis felt obliged to correct Mgr. Pozzo’s words, stating that the recognition of the SSPX is possible, but only with the previous acknowledgment of Vatican II, because it has its value.

The hierarchical superior of Mgr. Pozzo, Cardinal Mueller, explains that to be Catholic one has to accept the Pope and the Council – religious liberty, ecuмenism, etc., are doctrine, common doctrine, that is, doctrine of faith. He compares this with the case of the resurrection of Our Lord, a truth of faith, but one that has not been explicitly defined. And he concludes saying that to demand the acknowledgment of the Council is not an unreasonable demand and should not be an unsurmountable obstacle for the SSPX. In fact, this acknowledgment will lead us to “full communion,” a communion in error. It is clear that the condition is the acceptance of the Council and post-Council.

Therefore, it is also clear that the combat continues. As our General Superior, Bishop Fellay, has said, if we have to choose between faith and a compromise, the choice is already made – no compromise.

God may certainly change the circuмstances, put us in a different situation, and that is our firm hope. But reality is what it is.

Honestly, I am surprised he spoke against Rome and spoke against the deal at all.

That is how low my expectations of SSPX bishops have become.

mw2016 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 10, 2016, 11:05:58 PM »

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But that doesn't quite fit with your narrative, does it?
The revised sermon will be published soon, either on the STAS site or SSPX.

God forbid there's a grammatical error in it... Actually I hope there is. Id love to see what sort of palm reading that will bring about.

Doesn't it bother you that the faithful have lost "faith" in the SSPX bishops so much that we are actually SURPRISED that DeGallaretta spoke against Rome?

This is a testament to how very weak they have become, that the faithful now are reduced to such a reaction at the bishop's words.

Thank God he said them - thank God!

But, it is really almost an aberration these days from the SSPX.

MaterDominici · « **Reply #21 on:** June 10, 2016, 11:06:42 PM »

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Oh hey, looky here:

Full Sermon from Ordinations 2016

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MaterDominici · « **Reply #22 on:** June 10, 2016, 11:38:46 PM »

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Doesn't it bother you that the faithful have lost "faith" in the SSPX bishops so much that we are actually SURPRISED that DeGallaretta spoke against Rome?

Actually, I initially went to Google looking for this sermon because I had heard that Bp de Galarreta had said something in favor of a deal and that somewhat surprised me. Both Bps de Galarreta and Tissier de Mallerais have spoken against a deal. Bp de Mallerais has been more consistently against a deal whereas I believe Bp de Galarreta would have been in favor of the mythical "no strings attached" deal.

Of course, comments from either bishop are few and far between, but it's nice to know he's not on the propaganda bandwagon right now.

Aleah · « **Reply #23 on:** June 11, 2016, 05:04:55 AM »

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Oh hey, looky here:

Full Sermon from Ordinations 2016

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In lieu of speculating- I contacted the SSPX and asked why the sermon was taken down. I was informed that the original sermon posted was the one the bishop had prepared/written which differed from what was said during Ordinations albeit, only slightly (he spoke without any notes) The seminary is now transcribing the sermon from Spanish to English and from audio to text. Once completed- the sermon will be posted.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #24 on:** July 06, 2016, 09:04:00 PM »

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Oh hey, looky here:

Full Sermon from Ordinations 2016

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In lieu of speculating- I contacted the SSPX and asked why the sermon was taken down. I was informed that the original sermon posted was the one the bishop had prepared/written which differed from what was said during Ordinations albeit, only slightly (he spoke without any notes) The seminary is now transcribing the sermon from Spanish to English and from audio to text. Once completed- the sermon will be posted.

I got the same result trying to access that page: Access Denied

Almost a month later and no sermon is posted. It doesn't take 4 weeks to transcribe a sermon, so don't hold your breath.

There's likely something they don't want to be up on any website, such as words they would prefer disappear into the proverbial "memory hole" of 1984 fame.