Quote from: songbird

Our Blessed Lady said that the errors of Russia will spread, globally.  Bolshevik communism.

She did say that at Fatima and Garabandal. I now take it to mean the spread of Communitarianism, and Communitarian Law, which is global legislation coming out of the courts of Brussels.

Bolshevikism, Communism, and what you call Communitarianism are one and the same, the errors of Russia. It is all one. Bolshevism, Stalin Bolshevism does not remain static or nobody would follow it, it has to keep morphing. It is here in the USA since the 1960's. Abortion, free love, women living in fornication, adultery, young people being mirror images of their parents, aberrosɛҳuąƖisms......

There is no difference between the Russian government today and the USA government, we can't as Americans and Russians trust either one.

P.S.- Thanks for the Pope Francis UN quote, I had never seen it before.    

Quote from: Wessex

Trad-ism has always been a convenient facility whereby Catholics can carry the culture into the modern world. There seemed to be little concern shown just before V2 for those diligently maintaining religious practices yet being at the centre of contemporary life and its very progressive outlook. We must say that the changes that were to come were ways to resolve this leading of double lives after the reformers won the day. I believe a lot of 50ism continued within the SSPX and I observed so many of its influential lay supporters were enjoying their secular way of life without seeing the obvious inconsistencies. This rather vague assertion of traditionalism owes its continuing existence to cultural conditioning adjusting to the present through a process of slow hybridisation. And this process has spawned various institutions, many being Lefebvre derivatives. Having made this fatal accommodation, these bodies will never openly criticise the company they will be keeping in their new home. They may even become its most loyal supporters; having changed a lot, they will keep on changing!

If the faithful can be kept milling about on the liturgical feed lots for an indefinite period, they will continue to be absorbed and to absorb the changing environment which surrounds them.  Neo-Tradition has been morphed considerably since the council according to this strategy.
" I must have my Mass" no matter the cost is a new religious materialism. The Mideaval religiously organic life has disappeared in favor of a Sunday kind of love for the Religion with the security of visionary prophets which will clear everything up all that is disquieting, at some future time.

Keeping the old Mass was the initial rallying cry of the resistance to the reforms. And it could resonate among even non-Catholics with an interest in preserving a culture. The Agatha Christie indult, for example, was the outcome of such an outcry but it showed how the cause of traditionalism was going to be distorted and turned into a football to kick around by various discordant groups. If there is anything that most so-called trads have in common these days it is not wishing to look beyond the Mass. Thus, a totem has been created which although having its roots in the pre-V2 Sunday-ism mentioned above has grown into a liturgically-based sect which may one day fit neatly into the conciliar programme as it progresses. I am sure current Menzingen thought would be in this direction; if only they could be let loose in Rome!