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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Apology and Retraction
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2019, 08:37:42 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 16, 2019, 01:56:23 PM
I just had a conversation with someone authoritative who convinced me I was wrong about Archbishop Lefebvre:

He said that although he himself was never sedevacantist, Lefebvre did not preclude private individuals from entertaining the theoretical possibility.

Regarding the injection of the issue of dogmatic facts into the conversation, this person was undecided, but said that the pre-conciliar theologians could not have foreseen a crisis of this magnitude in the Church today, and implied that the matter of dogmatic facts and the conciliar popes was a questionable matter which he would have to go back and research.

Essentially, it is I who was wrong on these points, and consequently I not only retract my previously expressed opinions and understanding of these matters, but offer to Hollingsworth, Ladislaus, and Byzcat a sincere apology for my aggressive behavior.

Finally, I was told that someone who has written a book such as I have will undercut its authority if the author is seen to be flinging insults around the Internet.

My apologies to all affected.

Sean Johnson
What a nice humble Catholic response. Good for you, Sean!

I do disagree with your confrère when he said: “the pre-conciliar theologians could not have foreseen a crisis of this magnitude in the Church today”.

In his book, The Relations of the Church to Society,  Fr. Edmund James O’Reilly S.J. actually envisioned the possibility of a situation similar to what we have today: “ The great schism of the West suggests to me a reflection which I take the liberty of expressing here.  If this schism had not occurred, the hypothesis of such a thing happening would appear to many chimerical. They would say it could not be; God would not permit the Church to come into so unhappy a situation. Heresies might spring up and spread and last painfully long, through the fault and to the perdition of their authors and abettors, to the great distress too of the faithful, increased by actual persecution in many places where the heretics were dominant.  But that the true Church should remain between thirty and forty years without a thoroughly ascertained Head, and representative of Christ on earth, this would not be. Yet it has been; and we have no guarantee that it will not be again, though we may fervently hope otherwise. What I would infer is, that we must not be too ready to pronounce on what God may permit.“

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Offline LeDeg

Re: Apology and Retraction
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2019, 12:55:59 PM »
As lurker on this issue, my respect for Sean has gone way up because of this thread. 


My best regards to all of you in the pursuit of truth. :applause:
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Offline Bonaventure

Re: Apology and Retraction
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2019, 01:02:43 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 16, 2019, 01:56:23 PM
Finally, I was told that someone who has written a book such as I have will undercut its authority if the author is seen to be flinging insults around the Internet.

Here, my friends, is a fine example of being a day late, and a dollar short. 
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Offline Bonaventure

Re: Apology and Retraction
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2019, 01:03:50 PM »
Quote from: LeDeg on October 17, 2019, 12:55:59 PM
As lurker on this issue, my respect for Sean has gone way up because of this thread.

As they say... one can't fall off the floor.
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Offline Clemens Maria

Re: Apology and Retraction
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2019, 01:29:31 PM »
Quote from: Bonaventure on October 17, 2019, 01:03:50 PM
As they say... one can't fall off the floor.
They must have been teetotalers.
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