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Offline poche

Re: A Step for the Regularization of the SSPX? - Dissolution of Ecclesia Dei
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2019, 11:26:14 PM »
The 3 sspx bishops will retire in 15 years or so.  The new bishop for the sspx will be the only one chosen by rome.  What practical problems will arise in 15 years?  Let's see...

1.  How can the sspx "continue as they are" with only one bishop?  Will one bishop do all the confirmations?  Of course not.  Novus Ordo bishops will be called in to "help".

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looks like the SSPX is at an impasse. As of right now they have not made any agreement with the Vatican although the excommunications promulgated against their bishops have been lifted. They can make an agreement with the Vatican and the Pope will ultimately choose who (most likely from among them) will be ordained to the episcopate and carry on. Or they can decide among themselves who they want to continue on and they could ordain him to the episcopate without a mandate from the Pope, in which case they will all be excommunicated again. Or they could do nothing and the SSPX will die out without any bishop to ordain any of their priests.   
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: A Step for the Regularization of the SSPX? - Dissolution of Ecclesia Dei
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2019, 11:30:27 PM »

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The SSPX is not an indult.
Right, not currently but we're talking about the future.  After they make a deal with new-rome, they'll have to accept V2 and the new mass and then they'll be an indult, just like all the other TLM/compromisers who are "under (heretical) rome".
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Offline poche

Re: A Step for the Regularization of the SSPX? - Dissolution of Ecclesia Dei
« Reply #27 on: January 02, 2019, 11:32:58 PM »
1.  How can the sspx "continue as they are" with only one bishop?  Will one bishop do all the confirmations?  Of course not.  Novus Ordo bishops will be called in to "help".

As of right now, no there is no agreement between the SSPX and the Vatican. Therefore any the idea of any 'novus ordo' bishop 'helping out' is out of the question. 
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Offline poche

Re: A Step for the Regularization of the SSPX? - Dissolution of Ecclesia Dei
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2019, 11:38:16 PM »
4.  What kind of training will the sspx have at their seminaries?  V2 i'm sure.  Old and new rites, i'm sure.  Tradition and modernism together, i'm sure.  1962 missal and new latin/english hybrid missal training, i'm sure.

The training in their seminaries would very likely be the same. When there was serious talk about an agreement part of teh agreement was to recognize the particular charism of the SSPX  in the training of priests. I understand that Cardinal Ranjith wanted to bring them with him to Sri Lanka so that they could train his priests there. However, when no agreement was made that plan went nowhere.
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Offline poche

Re: A Step for the Regularization of the SSPX? - Dissolution of Ecclesia Dei
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2019, 11:39:21 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on January 02, 2019, 11:30:27 PM
Right, not currently but we're talking about the future.  After they make a deal with new-rome, they'll have to accept V2 and the new mass and then they'll be an indult, just like all the other TLM/compromisers who are "under (heretical) rome".
No one who is part of the SSPX is technically 'under Rome.'
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