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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Guadalupana
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2019, 09:00:35 AM »
"Because I go to the Father: and whatsoever you shall ask the Father in my name, that will I do: that the Father may be glorified in the Son. If you shall ask me any thing in my name, that I will do." John 14:13-14

Jesus, we beg you and, Father, we beg you in the Holy Name of Your Son, Jesus, that it is Your Will to drive Poche from this place forever. We offer our Holy Communions, fasting, alms, suffering, good works, and happiness for this intention.

Offline Mark 79

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Re: Guadalupana
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2019, 09:02:18 AM »
Lord, this is why we beg the Father in your Holy Name to drive Poche from this place.

Poche is a serial habitual liar, even a Falsifier of Scripture.


Poche willfully falsified the Matthew 16:18. Poche substituted "you" for "it" to bolster his equally phony contention about Jorge Begroglio. 

Quote from: poche on November 07, 2019, 04:55:39 AM
"And the gates of Hell shall not prevail against you" -Jesus to Peter
https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/is-francis-the-pope/msg674301/#msg674301


Repeatedly Poche has partially quoted your Pope St. Pius X to falsify his attitude toward the Jews. Representative examples: https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/another-gift-for-the-rabbi/msg675367/#msg675367 https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/pius-xii-and-ww2-pius-the-liberal-and-roncalli-the-conservative/msg674407/#msg674407 You willfully omitted:

"We are unable to favor this [Zionist] movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem, but we could never sanction it. The ground of Jerusalem, if it were not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise. The Jews have not recognized Our Lord; therefore, we cannot recognize the Jєωιѕн people.... If you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will be ready with priests and churches to baptize all of you". (Pope St. Pius X)

Poche also lied when he claimed that Jorge "preached against the тαℓмυd" https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/pope-francis-said-51197/msg672784/#msg672784 and that Jorge was "paraphrasing St. Paul" when Jorge said Jesus “made himself the devil.” https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/pope-francis-said-51197/msg671082/#msg671082 


Poche has claimed that Jorge has “the same view” on the Jews as Pope St. Pius X. https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/another-gift-for-the-rabbi/msg675367/#msg675367  Directly to their faces Pope St. Pius X told the Jews of Jesus Christ and their need to convert. Jorge is the diametric opposite, not “the same.” Jorge confirms тαℓмυdic Jews in their Faith and teaches their heretical dogmas to Catholics. Several examples here: http://judaism.is/st.-francis-on-francis.html#тαℓмυdicantipope 

Here is Jorge's full allocution: https://zenit.org/articles/holy-father-continues-catecheses-on-acts-of-the-apostles/

First, there is not one word about the тαℓмυd.

Second, contrary to Poche's assertion that Jorge preached "how Christianity is distinct from the Jєωιѕн religion,"  https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/pope-francis-said-51197/msg672784/#msg672784  Jorge uses the metaphors of "the Open Door," "the common way," "synodality,"  Instead of making a distinction, Jorge proposes an indifferentist blend of Christ and Belial: "relation between faith in Christ and the observance of the Law of Moses."  The only "relation" recognized by the perennial and infallible Magisterium is that the Law of Moses died with Christ on the Cross—and, as expected, that dogma is entirely missing in Jorge's subversion.

Third, Jorge cannot bring himself to teach de fide supersessionism, that the Law of Moses is dead, so instead he infers тαℓмυdic Noahidism: "ask them only to reject idolatry and all its expressions." So Jorge did not "preach against the тαℓмυd" as you claimed. Jorge did the exact opposite; he preached тαℓмυdic Noahidism.

Poche constructed three lies in your one run-on sentence!


Re: Guadalupana
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2019, 03:49:33 PM »
Que juntamos bajo el mantel de la Virgen de Guadalupe.

Si lo dices, sin embargo, creo que no.