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Politics and World Leaders / Re: Homes are being abandoned.
« Last post by Michelle on Today at 09:32:49 PM »
If someone simply cannot make their mortgage payments, sometimes it makes the most sense just to walk away and abandon the property.  A certain percentage of defaults are figured into the whole mortgage equation, and besides, the home is not really "yours" until you've paid off the mortgage --- before that, it's just collateral.  I can't find the quote, but I think it was Fr Peter Scott (SSPX) who said that default on a mortgage, at least as part of a bankruptcy, doesn't fall under the moral obligation to pay one's debts in case of default or bankruptcy, for the reason I cited above.

Mortgages are a necessary evil for the vast majority of people to own homes (or at least to have a chance at it), but speaking from experience, I can tell you, owning a home free and clear should be one of your top priorities in any financial plan.  Again, until you pay it off, the house really isn't "yours".
I'm no financial guru or anything but from what I understand, the banks are allowed to lend money that they don't physically possess in the first place.  It's called quantitative easing.  They just pluck money out of thin air and put it on a screen.  So the borrower works for 30 years to pay the bank almost three time the original amount that the bank never really lent. Win win for the banksters.  
My house is almost paid off but the taxes keep going up.  So we'll never really own the property, because the government needs there cut.
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Politics and World Leaders / Re: Homes are being abandoned.
« Last post by SimpleMan on Today at 08:42:05 PM »
If someone simply cannot make their mortgage payments, sometimes it makes the most sense just to walk away and abandon the property.  A certain percentage of defaults are figured into the whole mortgage equation, and besides, the home is not really "yours" until you've paid off the mortgage --- before that, it's just collateral.  I can't find the quote, but I think it was Fr Peter Scott (SSPX) who said that default on a mortgage, at least as part of a bankruptcy, doesn't fall under the moral obligation to pay one's debts in case of default or bankruptcy, for the reason I cited above.

Mortgages are a necessary evil for the vast majority of people to own homes (or at least to have a chance at it), but speaking from experience, I can tell you, owning a home free and clear should be one of your top priorities in any financial plan.  Again, until you pay it off, the house really isn't "yours".
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Reading all of this, I got curious as to whether any of the Apollo astronauts, who are said to have walked on the moon, were Catholic. 

Eugene Cernan was raised Catholic, but fell away from the Faith at some point, and his funeral was in the Episcopal sect.

Just something to consider.
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NASA Freemasonic roots exposed by Eric Dubay

https://ericdubay.wordpress.com/2018/07/11/nasa-and-Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ/

In my book “Famous Freemasons Exposed” I showed how Nicolas Copernicus, Johannes Kepler, Galileo Galilei, and Isaac Newton, the four fore-fathers of the globalist heliocentric doctrine, all posed for Masonic portraits highlighting various symbols and hand-signs denoting their affiliation with the brotherhood.  Galileo poses on a Masonic checkerboard floor, Kepler with the “hidden hand” sign, and all four of them pose with a Masonic compass and globe while flashing the Masonic “M” hand-sign.  “Sir” Isaac Newton was even knighted by Queen Anne at Trinity College’s Masonic Masters Lodge.
An inordinate number of NASA astronauts, the current propagators of the globalist heliocentric doctrine, are/were admitted Freemasons as well.  John Glenn, two-time US senator and one of NASA’s first astronauts is a known Mason.  Buzz Aldrin Jr., the second man to lie about walking on the moon is an admitted, ring-wearing, hand-sign flashing 33rd degree Mason from Montclair Lodge No. 144 in New Jersey.  Edgar Mitchell, another supposed moon-walker aboard Apollo 14 is an Order of Demolay Mason at Artesta Lodge No. 29 in New Mexico.  James Irwin of Apollo 15, the last man to lie about walking on the moon, was a Tejon Lodge No. 104 member in Colorado Springs.  Donn Eisele on Apollo 7 was a member of the Luther B. Turner Lodge No. 732 in Ohio.  Gordon Cooper aboard Mercury 9 and Gemini 5 was a Master Mason in Carbondale Lodge No. 82 in Colorado.  Virgil Grissom on Apollo 1 and 15, Mercury 5 and Gemini 3 was a Master Mason from Mitchell Lodge No. 228 in Indiana.  Walter Schirra Jr. on Apollo 7, Sigma 7, Gemini 6 and Mercury 8 was a 33rd degree Mason at Canaveral Lodge No. 339 in Florida.  Thomas Stafford on Apollo 10 and 18, Gemini 7 and 9 is a Mason at Western Star Lodge No. 138 in Oklahoma.  Paul Weitz on Skylab 2 and Challenger is from Lawrence Lodge No. 708 in Pennsylvania.
NASA astronauts Neil Armstrong, Allen Sheppard, William Pogue, Vance Brand, and Anthony England all had fathers who were Freemasons too! The amount of astronauts known to be Freemasons or from Freemasonic families is astonishing.  It is likely that more astronauts and people of key importance in NASA are affiliated with the brotherhood as well, but not so open about their membership.  For there to be this many Masons, members of the world’s largest and oldest secret society, involved with the promotion and propagation of this globalist heliocentric doctrine from its outset to today should raise some serious suspicion!
C. Fred Kleinknecht, head of NASA at the time of the Apollo Space Program, is now the Sovereign Grand Commander of the Council of the 33rd Degree of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ of the Southern Jurisdiction.  It was his reward for pulling it off!  All of the first astronauts were Freemasons.  There is a photograph in the House of the Temple in Washington DC of Neil Armstrong supposedly on the moon’s surface in his spacesuit holding his Masonic Apron in front of his groin.”  -William Cooper
NASA’s logo is a giant red forked serpent’s tongue overlaying the starry heavens.  Serpents, and specifically their forked tongues, have long been associated with lying, deceit, cleverness, two-facedness, manipulation, and with Satan, the Devil.  Why would the National Aeronautics and Space Administration choose this as their official logo?
The United Nations, the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr government headquarters, built on land donated by 33rd degree Freemason John D. Rockefeller, is represented by a logo/flag which clearly depicts a Flat Earth divided into 33 sections!  There are 33 official degrees of Scottish-Rite Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, and the UN flag features a Flat-Earth divided into exactly 33 sections!  Why would the United Nations founders choose a logo/flag of a Flat-Earth map divided into 33 sections?  How is it that C. Fred Kleinknecht, the head of NASA, retired and immediately became the head of the 33rd degree of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ?  How is it that all the fore-fathers of the ball-Earth theory and so many NASA astronauts are all Freemasons!?

The Masons’ esoteric religion, the very basis of their symbols and rituals, is Sun-worship.  From their first day in the lodge, Masonic initiates learn that Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is all about light, enlightenment, illumination (hence, the “Illuminati) and hence worship of the Sun as the giver of light.  Masonic halls are all purposely constructed to correspond with the motions of the Sun.  They are always situated intentionally facing East towards the Sun, with the “Worshipful Master” sitting in the far East on a throne engraved with a picture of the Sun.  The high festival of the Masons is on Christian’s “St. John’s Day,” or the 24th of June, otherwise known as “midsummer day” when the Sun arrives at its annual highest elevation, the summer solstice.  Regarding the Masonic “Rite of Circuмambulation,” 33rd degree Freemasonic historian Albert Mackey says, “In Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ people always walked three times round the alter while singing a sacred hymn.  In making this procession, great care was taken to move an imitation of the course of the Sun.  This Rite of Circuмambulation undoubtedly refers to the doctrine of sun-worship.”

Masonry is derived and is the remains of the religion of the ancient Druids; who, like the magi of Persia and the priests of Heliopolis in Egypt, were priests of the Sun.  They paid worship to this great luminary, as the great visible agent of a great invisible first cause.  The Christian religion and Masonry have one and the same common origin: both are derived from the worship of the Sun.  The difference between their origin is, that the Christian religion is a parody on the worship of the Sun, in which they put a man whom they call Christ, in the place of the Sun, and pay him the same adoration which was originally paid to the Sun.  In Masonry many of the ceremonies of the Druids are preserved in their original state, at least without any parody.  With them the Sun is still the Sun; and his image in the form of the Sun is the great emblematical ornament of Masonic lodges and Masonic dresses.  It is the central figure on their aprons, and they wear it also pendant on the breast of their lodges, and in their processions … The Sun, as the great visible agent of the Creator, was the visible object of the adoration of the Druids; all their religious rites and ceremonies had reference to the apparent progress of the sun through the twelve signs of the zodiac, and his influence upon the earth.  The Masons adopt the same practices.  The roof of their temples or lodges is ornamented with a sun, and the floor is a representation of the variegated face of the earth either by carpeting or mosaic work … The emblematical meaning of the Sun is well known to the enlightened and inquisitive Freemason; and as the real Sun is situated in the center of the universe, so the emblematical Sun is the center of real Masonry … only the scientific Freemason knows the reason why the Sun is placed in the center of this beautiful hall.”  -Thomas Paine, “Origin of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ”
 

read more here:
https://ericdubay.wordpress.com/2018/07/11/nasa-and-Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ/
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Politics and World Leaders / Re: Homes are being abandoned.
« Last post by Nadir on Today at 07:58:40 PM »
Yeh! But 53 minutes? Isn’t there a shortcut? How about a precis?
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So we can agree that if a vast amazing discoverable universe makes me feel closer to God's Awesomeness and a flat earth with the Saints looking at us like a snow globe makes you feel God's Awesomeness, then it doesn't really matter which one is right.  Only God knows that, and as long as we are contemplating God. All is good.

But now we have relativism.  Now what?

I am not sure, but I heard that there are saints who were for the Flat Earth, and saints that were for the Globe. Both kinds are in Heaven.

Some people who know better than me say that Heliocentrism is heresy.

I have not personally researched this topics, but I don't think that the relativism label applies here.
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God and the Angels are right here with us everyday. If the earth is a globe or flat it doesn't really matter for our Salvation. But us silly humans want to pick the right team and then we battle it out. And while we battle we miss an opportunity to walk in the park, visit a cemetery, or call a friend because we had the inspiration.
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It seems to me that to imagine that we are on a blue ball that floats on a endless black space makes us distant from God. On the other hand, if we believe that the world has some kind of roof (the firmament) and that Our Lord and Our Lady and all the saints and angels are watching us, it somehow makes us more aware of God. It does to me anyway.
To me it seems absurd that a pure spirit could be physically far away. The Pure Spirit who knows every speck of dust at all times. Such an expanse is fitting for God's creation.
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