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Health and Nutrition / Re: Fr. McFarland (SSPX) Health Update
« Last post by cath4ever on Today at 03:16:45 PM »
Being that today is Sunday, did anyone hear any update on Fr. McFarland's condition?
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Anσnymσus Posts Allowed / Re: What kind of body modifications do you think is ok?
« Last post by Änσnymσus on Today at 02:28:30 PM »
Wrong.  Her mother had her ears pierced. Being a dutiful daughter she probably did not object.
Wrong? Wrong about what? The picture says it all. Cool...her mom's ears were pierced too, awesome! And NO I don't agree with body mutilations and full arm sleeves & etc either, the cute little earrings are as far as I go.
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That's twice today St. Therese was brought up as a model for something other than what the Church canonized her for.

The entire life of St. Therese and her parents is NOT some kind of ideal or #1 choice that all Catholics should aspire to.

When the Church canonized St. Therese, it means that St. Therese is in heaven, she practiced heroic virtue, and her Little Way is worthy of imitation. Her virtues were worthy of imitation. It doesn't mean that the #1 best path is for girls to get 2 small earrings, or for parents to work and have someone else watch their children. Or to wait until you are in your mid-30's to get married. Or for women to wait until 26 to get married. Those elements in St. Therese's life (and that of her parents) were TOLERATED or passed over, not held up as the #1 ideal. They weren't enough to derail St. Therese's canonization -- but that doesn't mean they were all ideal or perfect choices that all future Catholics should strive to imitate!
Thank you. The parents are not saints and should not be imitated.

The poor decisions of the mother of St. Maria Goretti led to her horrific death. Yes she is a Saint and her attacker converted but does that mean single mothers should allow their young daughters to live in the same house as creepy unrelated men? No.
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FYI, St. Therese's father Louis was 34 and her mother Zelie was 26 when they met. Would you say Louis was a complete loser?

That's twice today St. Therese was brought up as a model for something other than what the Church canonized her for.

The entire life of St. Therese and her parents is NOT some kind of ideal or #1 choice that all Catholics should aspire to.


Matthew, with respect, I don't think you understood my intent. Let me clarify-nothing in my post above (which you  referred to)  was meant to imply that everyone should copy EVERYTHING in the lives of St. Therese or her parents. The post also wasn't intended to  indicate that it is best to marry older either.

Actually, I believe marrying YOUNGER is the best option for scores of reasons, provided that the couple knows what they are getting into. I've indicated that in previous posts. My only point of that recent post was that someone who marries later in life CAN have a good marriage if they have the right dispositions. If so, they are by no means "losers" by default as Horatius indicates.

Not saying they were perfect, but by all accounts, St. Therese's parents were at least a reasonably good couple, and their marriage produced "good fruit". Hence the use of that particular example. 
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Anσnymσus Posts Allowed / Re: What kind of body modifications do you think is ok?
« Last post by Änσnymσus on Today at 02:05:22 PM »
Why is it that those who still have proper sensibilities are repulsed by seeing men wearing them?

Random Thought -

This is off topic but I've always wondered why it is that the toughest men in history all wore skirts, uh, I mean kilts.  The Spartans, the Roman Legions and those dastardly Scots all wearing those short skirts?  I get it in the that Roman heat but in Scotland?  What's the deal?

Ok.  Back to the thread...
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Anσnymσus Posts Allowed / Re: What kind of body modifications do you think is ok?
« Last post by Änσnymσus on Today at 01:57:56 PM »
Maybe St Therese didn’t have her pierced at all.  During those times many earrings were clip ons for non pierced ears. 
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... and I'd also argue it's part of the feminine charm.

Agreed, as per my post above.  Why is it that those who still have proper sensibilities are repulsed by seeing men wearing them?
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Anσnymσus Posts Allowed / Re: What kind of body modifications do you think is ok?
« Last post by Änσnymσus on Today at 01:44:58 PM »
Single hole piercing in the lobe of the ear--for girls.  This is the absolute limit. 

Anyone who puts a nose ring through their septum should be required by law to wear a cow bell and should be ineligible to receive respect.
Except from Hindus
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Those elements in St. Therese's life (and that of her parents) were TOLERATED or passed over, not held up as the #1 ideal. They weren't enough to derail St. Therese's canonization -- but that doesn't mean they were all ideal or perfect choices that all future Catholics should strive to imitate!

Or they deemed that it has nothing to do with her possession of heroic virtue.  Recall why she wore the earrings.  There's nothing inherently "less perfect" about wearing earings.  It depends on whether or not there's a disorder present.  St. Therese put them on only to look older when petitioning to get into the convent before the normal canonical age.  If some woman wears them simply to appear more feminine (perhaps she has masculine features or is on the homely side), there's nothing more disordered or imperfect about that than a man letting a beard grow out because he otherwise has somewhat effeminate or at least not-very-masculine features.  If it's in the proper order of simply appearing more femine, there's nothing whatsoever disordered about it.  It's on a case by case basis and a matter of the internal forum.  Shouldn't women want to appear feminine and men to appear masculine?  Women who don't appear feminine (say, by wearing pants) are regularly castigated for it, and now a woman who puts on a couple small relatively-modest earrings in order to appear more femine (perhas something she lacks naturally) is also "imperfect"?

Wearing some earrings has become associated with femininity, which is why we're rightly put off by seeing men wearing them.  I don't see women wearing them as any different than wearing a very feminine (albeit modest) dress.
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I forgot to uncheck the anonymous button there.
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