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Crisis in the Church / Re: Vatican's "Manger of Darkness"
« Last post by Merry on Today at 07:00:27 PM »
2Vermont - Let's start over.  When you say, "condemned this," what do you mean?  What is "this"?  
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Lastdays and those like him, are citizens arresters, sheriff, judge and executioner.  

It's illegal but they don't want to quibble about that.  "JUST GET THE ROPE!  Then we'll run things our way."

Not only are they often thickheaded, but they fight with non-sede trads.

They seem bored with keeping their eye on the ball - the Novus Ordo church, the true enemy.  
Merry and hypocrites like him, claim that those who just follow the teachings of the Church are claiming some sort of authority and acting as executioner's etc., when it is actually Merry himself who has set himself up above his Pope and decides what he will and will not accept from the heretical council that his Pope tells him that he must accept in order to be in communion with him. By rejecting Vatican II, Merry and those like him hold a schismatic position. If Merry accepts Vatican II, he becomes even more of a heretic than he already is. As it stands he is already a heretic for believing that a notorious heretic can be considered a member of the Catholic Church and hold an office in the Catholic Church. My teaching? I think not. Just read the plain words given by the Church on the matter that I have already posted.
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Right!  What WE think does not matter - we have no AUTHORITY.  It's what the Church finally decides on this situation that matters.

Sure - maybe Francis will be proclaimed to not have been a Pope - same back to John XXIII.  But the CHURCH deciding that in the future and saying so will make it so and all things will go accordingly.  SHE will apply Her laws where they do apply in this matter.  

Meanwhile - don't start making your own Church - don't start casting out and not praying for whoever is given us as Pope.  Don't assume the condemnation and lynch accordingly.  We have no vote.  

But you do claim AUTHORITY by questioning/rejecting Vatican II, Paul VI's Mass, John Paul II's Code of Canon Law etc etc.
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You have proven that you could care less about dogma and Church teaching which refutes your anarchist sede thesis.

You seem to believe that you are above the rest of us, and that your opinion is without question.

Who are you, that you can presume superiority, and claim that whosoever does not agree with you are heretics? Are you not a layman?
Agree with me? That's pretty funny. I am providing CHURCH teaching. JUST READ IT. It requires no interpretation.  YOU are the one with the OPINIONS. 
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Catholic Living in the Modern World / Re: New NFP booklet?
« Last post by Nadir on Today at 06:01:30 PM »
The blurb on the page says, "This book will seek to prove beyond a doubt that the consequences of the Rhythm Mentality (i.e. Natural Family Planning or NFP) are contrary to the Christian moral code."
"...the consequences of the Rhythm Mentality (i.e. Natural Family Planning or NFP) are contrary to the Christian moral code."  is a strange way to express yourself
Who is Jeanne Dvorak?
The link you posted tells very little.
It doesn't look like a new book. And there is no date.
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I have to wonder why some of you keep posting topics on Fr. Pfeiffer and Hewko.  Isn't it obvious that their ministries are in the dumpster?  Why post topics about these two, and go on about them page after page.  Let it go already!  The OLMC is over.
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I'm sorry Capt, but this is a non sequitur.  Your reply is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

I have to ask for what reason should one abstain from Holy Communion unless one is not personally disposed to receive (i.e., serious sin or have not fasted)?  This is not relevant to the question of attending Mass.  Further, if the reason for abstaining is because of doubts about the validity of that Communion, then would it not, in itself, be a serious sin to hear that Mass?

If all you want to do is hear a Mass, you could read the Missal yourself...but you still would not have a Mass (unless you are a priest).

While it is true that Holy Communion is not required, it is certainly not true that simply hearing the words of Mass gives a soul any graces if that Mass is of doubtful validity.
Well said.  Additionally, it would be sacrilege and/or violation of First Commandment to take part in a “Mass” in which mere bread is worshipped as our Lord, which is the situation with invalid “priests” who cannot put Christ on the altar.
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Catholic Living in the Modern World / Re: New NFP booklet?
« Last post by songbird on Today at 05:20:47 PM »
One main point that crossed my mind is:  Does the Catholic church teach serious reason?  That was always my understanding.
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Crisis in the Church / Re: Vatican's "Manger of Darkness"
« Last post by 2Vermont on Today at 05:20:43 PM »
Take it for what it's worth, 2Vermont.  No one likes these Popes, even God.

Typical.
Typical what?

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Crisis in the Church / Re: Vatican's "Manger of Darkness"
« Last post by Merry on Today at 05:17:53 PM »
Take it for what it's worth, 2Vermont.  No one likes these Popes, even God.

Typical.
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