Because she is one of the least and Jesus said


If you can't afford to give, that is a different story.

Good response.

Because she is one of the least and Jesus said

And the king answering, shall say to them: Amen I say to you, as long as you did it to one of these my least brethren, you did it to me -Matthew  25:40

If you can't afford to give, that is a different story.

The math involved is not demonic or angelic.

Gray2023 locuta est, causa finita est 

  He was making number statements and rounding them to the closest 666 number just to make it seem that it was all about the occult.  Numbers have meaning if they are true and natural, but manipulating them to make a point is just click bait.

Again: Numbers do not have to be exact to a decimal to be significant or convey a meaning, consciously or subconsciously. Think, "close enough".
Saying, "erm, he's actually rounding 66.56 to 66.6..deboonked!" simply isn't going to cut it when it is an occult organization like NASA being discussed. 

Making a comment on my own opinion is a strawman?  How? 

And I don't understand why you have such an emotional response to a post that was obviously humor.  If I said their was no snark intended, and you say there was, who is right?  Me the one who made the comment or you who already has a bias about who you think I am, and what you think I do.

"Emotional tirade", the fact I never said or implied that, the fact that I never said or implied it wasn't an attempt at humor. Yes, strawman. And now gaslighting as well. I'm having an "emotional response"  what you say now doesn't change the fact that your deboonker dunk is still visible for all to see

I can take the heat.  I have been taking the heat for two years now on CathInfo.


I just find it silly that when someone can't respond directly to a person's opinion the next option is to just make a personal comment.  The only reason to say negative things about someone is so others will think negatively about that person.  I guess some people just feel better about themself, when they put other people down.

You have indeed  I know this discussion (about someone being rude) may be "therapeutic" for you but it doesn't concern me at all, and I'm not going to be further dragged into you using the forum to "release your frustrations"..an exercise which you "like" using CI as a medium to accomplish

There was a post a while ago showing that women commonly married in their teens in the past, with 90% of girls who married married by 19 in Europe before the protestant revolt, and that number increasing to 20-25 by the year 2000, and from there again to 25-35. But what about men?

Pre-Christian Europe (500 BC–AD 300)
Mean: 20–35 (Roman elite ~25–40, Greek ~25–35, commoners ~20–30).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%, rare).
17–20: 5% each (20%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 0.3% each (3%).

Early Christian Europe (AD 300–1000)

Mean: 20–30 (elite ~25–40, commoners ~20–30).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%).
17–20: 5% each (20%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 0.3% each (3%).

 Medieval Europe (1000–1500)

Mean: Nobles 20–30, commoners 20–25 (~22–27).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 1% each (5%, young nobles).
17–18: 5% each (10%).
19–20: 8% each (16%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 4% each (20%).
31–40: 0.2% each (2%).


Early Modern Europe (1500–1800)
Mean: 25–35 (~27–30, Western Europe; ~22–27 Southern Europe).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%).
17–20: 3% each (12%).
21–25: 8% each (40%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–40: 0.6% each (6%).

Modern Era (1800–1900)

Mean: 25–30 (~25–28).
12–40 Breakdown:12–17: <0.5% each (<3%).
18–20: 3% each (9%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 6% each (30%).
31–40: 0.8% each (8%).

 Contemporary Era (1900–2025)

Mean: 25–30 (1900–1950, ~25–28), 30–35 (2000–2025, ~32, Eurostat 2023).
12–40 Breakdown:1900–1950:12–17: <0.5% each (<3%).
18–20: 3% each (9%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 6% each (30%).
31–40: 0.8% each (8%).

2000–2025:12–20: <0.5% each (<3%).
21–25: 3% each (15%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–35: 10% each (50%).
36–40: 2% each (10%).

Now for graphs to make it easier to read






1. Pre-1500 (500 BC–1500)
Saints: Peak at 21–25 (30%), reflecting noblemen (e.g., Malcolm III ~25–40).
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (~50%), common for nobles and commoners.
Note: Saints align with European norms, but 12–16 is slightly higher due to rare political marriages.

2. Early Modern (1500–1800)
Saints: Still peak at 21–25 (30%), reflecting pre-1500 bias.
Europeans: Shift to 21–30 (~80%), as WEMP delayed marriages.
Note: Saints’ early ages (12–20) are outdated; European men marry later.

3. Modern (1800–1900)
Saints: Anachronistic, stuck at 21–25 (30%) due to pre-1800 data.
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (50%), with 26–30 rising (30%).
Note: Saints’ data misaligns with rising ages.

4. Contemporary (1900–2025)
Saints: Irrelevant, reflecting pre-1900 norms (21–25 peak).
Europeans: 1900–1950 peaks at 21–25 (50%); 2000–2025 at 31–35 (50%).
Note: Saints’ early ages (12–20) are obsolete; European men shift to 26–35.

You can see a shift of men getting married from 17-30 to 21-30 to 26-35.

So teenage girls married guys who were several years older to 10-15 years older. Since most girls were married by 19 and most guys by 30. After the protestants took over with Jєωιѕн/masonry the men were still getting married BY 30 but the women started getting married later BY 25. Now it's mostly BY 35 for both, though most get married in the 25-35 age range. So age gaps have gotten smaller and people are getting married later.

There was a post a while ago showing that women commonly married in their teens in the past, with 90% of girls who married married by 19 in Europe before the protestant revolt, and that number increasing to 20-25 by the year 2000, and from there again to 25-35. But what about men?

Pre-Christian Europe (500 BC–AD 300)
Mean: 20–35 (Roman elite ~25–40, Greek ~25–35, commoners ~20–30).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%, rare).
17–20: 5% each (20%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 0.3% each (3%).

Early Christian Europe (AD 300–1000)

Mean: 20–30 (elite ~25–40, commoners ~20–30).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%).
17–20: 5% each (20%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 5% each (25%).
31–40: 0.3% each (3%).

 Medieval Europe (1000–1500)

Mean: Nobles 20–30, commoners 20–25 (~22–27).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 1% each (5%, young nobles).
17–18: 5% each (10%).
19–20: 8% each (16%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 4% each (20%).
31–40: 0.2% each (2%).


Early Modern Europe (1500–1800)
Mean: 25–35 (~27–30, Western Europe; ~22–27 Southern Europe).
12–40 Breakdown:12–16: 0.5% each (2.5%).
17–20: 3% each (12%).
21–25: 8% each (40%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–40: 0.6% each (6%).

Modern Era (1800–1900)

Mean: 25–30 (~25–28).
12–40 Breakdown:12–17: <0.5% each (<3%).
18–20: 3% each (9%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 6% each (30%).
31–40: 0.8% each (8%).

 Contemporary Era (1900–2025)

Mean: 25–30 (1900–1950, ~25–28), 30–35 (2000–2025, ~32, Eurostat 2023).
12–40 Breakdown:1900–1950:12–17: <0.5% each (<3%).
18–20: 3% each (9%).
21–25: 10% each (50%).
26–30: 6% each (30%).
31–40: 0.8% each (8%).

2000–2025:12–20: <0.5% each (<3%).
21–25: 3% each (15%).
26–30: 8% each (40%).
31–35: 10% each (50%).
36–40: 2% each (10%).

Now for graphs to make it easier to read






1. Pre-1500 (500 BC–1500)
Saints: Peak at 21–25 (30%), reflecting noblemen (e.g., Malcolm III ~25–40).
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (~50%), common for nobles and commoners.
Note: Saints align with European norms, but 12–16 is slightly higher due to rare political marriages.

2. Early Modern (1500–1800)
Saints: Still peak at 21–25 (30%), reflecting pre-1500 bias.
Europeans: Shift to 21–30 (~80%), as WEMP delayed marriages.
Note: Saints’ early ages (12–20) are outdated; European men marry later.

3. Modern (1800–1900)
Saints: Anachronistic, stuck at 21–25 (30%) due to pre-1800 data.
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (50%), with 26–30 rising (30%).
Note: Saints’ data misaligns with rising ages.

4. Contemporary (1900–2025)
Saints: Irrelevant, reflecting pre-1900 norms (21–25 peak).
Europeans: 1900–1950 peaks at 21–25 (50%); 2000–2025 at 31–35 (50%).
Note: Saints’ early ages (12–20) are obsolete; European men shift to 26–35.

Key Observations
Pre-1500:Saints: ~60% at 21–30 (30% 21–25, 25% 26–30), aligning with European men (20–30, ~75%). Early marriages (12–16, 5%) are rare but match young nobles (e.g., Bolesław V).
Europeans: Peak at 21–25 (50%), with nobles often older (25–40).

Post-1500 Divergence:
1500–1800: Saints’ 21–25 (30%) and 26–30 (25%) lag behind European shift to 26–30 (~40%), as WEMP delayed marriages for economic independence (mean ~27–30).
1800–1900: Saints’ 21–25 (30%) is closer to European 21–25 (~50%), but 12–20 (25%) is anachronistic vs. <12% European.
2000–2025: Saints’ data (pre-1900) is irrelevant; European men peak at 31–35 (~50%) vs. saints’ 15% at 31–40, driven by education and economic pressures.

Why Men’s Ages Rose:
Post-1500: Western European Marriage Pattern required men to establish households, delaying marriage to 25–30. Apprenticeships and land acquisition pushed ages up.
Post-2000: Education (e.g., university to ~25), career demands, housing costs, and cohabitation (40% of EU couples, 2020) shifted marriages to 31–35.

Canonization Bias: Few married male saints (mostly celibate men canonized), skewing data toward elite husbands (e.g., Malcolm III ~25–40).
Early marriages (12–16) are overrepresented vs. European norms post-1500.

Sources and Limitations
Saints’ Data: Estimated from prior lists (e.g., Joseph, Malcolm III), Roman Martyrology, and norms. Limited male saints (~50) make percentages speculative.
European Data: From demographic studies (Hajnal, Eurostat), parish records, and web sources (e.g.,). Year-by-year estimates are interpolated.
Limitations: Saints’ male data is sparse; ages are inferred. European data varies by region/class, with less granularity pre-1800.