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Anσnymσus Posts Allowed / Re: What arguments would you use to convert non-Catholics?
« Last post by Änσnymσus on Today at 04:25:17 PM »
It seems like in the world - in the workplace, friends of friends, etc. - you'd generally meet two kinds of people.  The first being Protestants and the second being Godless secularists.  Protestants, to their credit, have read the bible and usually want to take that angle against Catholics who usually haven't read the bible.  So knowing their Scriptural angles would be key.

For the secularists, I think they'd be more inclined to judge the Church through the lens of history - Inquisition, Crusades, etc.

I think those could be three areas of interest if it ever came up.  
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The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers / Re: Saint quotes
« Last post by Gray2023 on Today at 04:13:57 PM »
If you look at the rod of Moses lying on the ground, it is a frightful serpent; if you look at it in the hand of Moses, it is a wand of power. It is thus with tribulations. Consider them in themselves, and they are horrors; consider them in the will of God, and they are joys and delights.----St. Francis de Sales
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Your brain rationalized the Bible by imposing onto it the modern cosmology that was drilled into it.  All we see is a light passing through the sky.  Even today, if you see a light moving through the sky, it could be any kind of craft.  Can you tell just by looking at it how far it is away from you?  If planes fly through the sky at night, they also look like little lights.  Are they too flying through "space".  Reportedly the Starlink satellites are the size of an office desk and are allegedly between 200 and 300 miles away, and have no exterior illumination.  So how can you see something the size of an office desk from 200+ miles away at night when it has no source of light?  Maybe they're not what Elon et al. claim they are.  Have you ever thought about that?

Somehow in your mind, you think this is proof that "space" exists, because you saw a light moving through the sky?  That speaks volumes about the fact that you're clearly applying your own confirmation bias onto what you saw.

Lights passing through the sky could be anything, things moving through the firmament, various aircraft (altitude and size unknown and unknowable from your vantage point on the ground), something with an electric charge moving across the firmament, or some charged object, etc. etc.
But that does not answer what those lights were.  Do you know?  You have many questions,  but no answers either.  I assume this chained of lights, not one light but several in a row like the picture shows.  I assume I saw them because they were reflecting the light of the sun.  Have you ever seen this?  It is creepy when you do, what could they be and who is controlling them?
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Yes Gray2023, America was predominantly Protestant at the time of women's suffrage, but the question should be, Did Catholic countries allow female suffrage too, and if so, did this fact affect their death penalty positions?  Every Catholic country in Europe had the death penalty, England, Spain, France, Italy, Germany (Bavaria), etc.  England did away with the death penalty in 1965, and allowed female suffrage in 1928.  This theme is a constant, allow the female vote and we open the door for effeminate judges, effeminate politicians, and effeminate policies.  And "no death penalty" is very effeminate. Today the death penalty is non-existent in Europe; there is no 2nd Amendment in Europe (excluding Switzerland).  Europe has lost the Faith. 

Thirty years ago a Catholic girl here in my home city decided to write a newspaper piece about the horrors of bodily punishment.  I reminded her that our Lord hit people with a whip in the Gospel of St. John, and, of course God is in favor of capital punishment.  He allowed it in the Old Testament and said nothing in the New Testament about its abolition.  This girl followed her immature logic as a seventh grader, and I would bet that she is still doing so. 

Here is a list of countries which have allowed female suffrage by year: http://archive.ipu.org/wmn-e/suffrage.htm 
I think you have an interesting point.  The society has become effeminate. But is it because of the women (taking over), the men (letting them), both, or something else?  Maybe if we reestablish a good Catholic society these things would go back to the way God intended.  For now I guess we just have to muddle through this world with our strong Catholic principles.
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 That speaks volumes about the fact that you're clearly applying your own confirmation bias onto what you saw.
At least you never do the latter (the former being speaking volumes). ::)
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While I do not oppose the death penalty for many crimes in principle, I truly wonder how much we can trust the judicial system...at least in the United States.  Over the past few years it seems that governments at every level--national, State, municipal, county, etc.--have shown that they are absolutely willing to falsify evidence in order to get the outcomes they desire.  While many police officers are honest, many have been shown to be corrupt.  Prosecutors, for the most part, don't prosecute crimes out of a sense of justice but, rather, for political reasons.  The corruption of laws demonstrates that there are many judges are willing to cut down every law necessary according to their ideological desires.  Any any prospective juror who may actually know any person involved in a case and know their honesty or lack thereof will be automatically dismissed from the case.

If I don't think I can trust a public school principal to properly administer corporal punishment to children (and I can't), how can I trust other public servants to execute a convict?
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Yes Gray2023, America was predominantly Protestant at the time of women's suffrage, but the question should be, Did Catholic countries allow female suffrage too, and if so, did this fact affect their death penalty positions?  Every Catholic country in Europe had the death penalty, England, Spain, France, Italy, Germany (Bavaria), etc.  England did away with the death penalty in 1965, and allowed female suffrage in 1928.  This theme is a constant, allow the female vote and we open the door for effeminate judges, effeminate politicians, and effeminate policies.  And "no death penalty" is very effeminate. Today the death penalty is non-existent in Europe; there is no 2nd Amendment in Europe (excluding Switzerland).  Europe has lost the Faith. 

Thirty years ago a Catholic girl here in my home city decided to write a newspaper piece about the horrors of bodily punishment.  I reminded her that our Lord hit people with a whip in the Gospel of St. John, and, of course God is in favor of capital punishment.  He allowed it in the Old Testament and said nothing in the New Testament about its abolition.  This girl followed her immature logic as a seventh grader, and I would bet that she is still doing so. 

Here is a list of countries which have allowed female suffrage by year: http://archive.ipu.org/wmn-e/suffrage.htm   
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Yesterday I saw what I thought was a "shooting star"  and two "satellites".  I always thought that the atmosphere is where we breathe and past that there is no oxygen (space).  I thought that the space between is the firmament.  I thought a "shooting star" was something passing from space, through the firmament, to the atmosphere and burning up. That is how my brain rationalized the Bible.  Do you flat earth believers have an explanation for what I saw?

Your brain rationalized the Bible by imposing onto it the modern cosmology that was drilled into it.  All we see is a light passing through the sky.  Even today, if you see a light moving through the sky, it could be any kind of craft.  Can you tell just by looking at it how far it is away from you?  If planes fly through the sky at night, they also look like little lights.  Are they too flying through "space".  Reportedly the Starlink satellites are the size of an office desk and are allegedly between 200 and 300 miles away, and have no exterior illumination.  So how can you see something the size of an office desk from 200+ miles away at night when it has no source of light?  Maybe they're not what Elon et al. claim they are.  Have you ever thought about that?

Somehow in your mind, you think this is proof that "space" exists, because you saw a light moving through the sky?  That speaks volumes about the fact that you're clearly applying your own confirmation bias onto what you saw.

Lights passing through the sky could be anything, things moving through the firmament, various aircraft (altitude and size unknown and unknowable from your vantage point on the ground), something with an electric charge moving across the firmament, or some charged object, etc. etc.
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Here is a picture I took from my phone.  The lights came from the horizon and disappeared over head.  I looked it up and it was said they were space x satellites.  Can someone explain?  
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Many of these issues point to women's suffrage here in the US.  Once women had the right to vote here in the US, everything went downhill from there, including the election of politicians who are anti-death penalty.

Women tend to be more solidly anti-death penalty than men.  The logic follows thus:  All murder is killing, but not all killing is murder.  I have had quite few liberal Catholics tell me, "The death penalty is murder."  Not true!  The definition of murder is, "The intentional taking of an innocent human life."  The far majority of the death row inmates are not innocent, and should the truth be known, many of those on death row who might be innocent of their alleged crimes, should be put to death for the crimes which they were never charged for.   

I remember the Clinton years, and quite a few women told me they voted for Billy Boy because he was cute.  This is insane, but when we look at the numbers of women in America who voted Clinton, there is probably a lot of truth in this.  He is a smooth talker and he looks good, let us vote for him. 
The US was heavily protestant during the suffrage movements.  What did the death penalty do in Catholic countries?
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