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  • Article: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances - LifeSite (lifesitenews.com)

    Video BREAKING: Trump Touts Support For IVF, Abortion in Various Circuмstances (lifesitenews.com)
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    Since last September, Trump has repeatedly suggested that if elected again he wants to find a “certain number of weeks” that would make both sides “happy” to put the issue “behind us,” even going so far as to call heartbeat-based abortion bans enacted by various states a “terrible mistake,” emphasize his desire for whatever pro-life actions Republicans pursue to contain exceptions for the so-called “hard cases.”


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    National Right to Life Committee president Carol Tobias reacted by praising Trump’s “work in ensuring that the wrongly decided Roe v. Wade was abandoned to the garbage heap of history” and pro-life record from his first term and “look[ing] forward to defeating the pro-abortion Biden-hαɾɾιs ticket and working with President Trump to build an America that truly respects life at every stage,” but not commenting on his latest comments.

    By contrast, Live Action founder Lila Rose strongly denounced the statement, declaring Trump “is not a pro-life candidate” and calling on him to reject “this swamp-consultant-driven position” in favor of returning to that of the longstanding Republican Party Platform, which “support a human life amendment to the Constitution and legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to children before birth.”






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    Re: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances
    « Reply #1 on: April 09, 2024, 08:59:36 AM »
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  • Trump is a stupid zionist a-s


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    « Reply #2 on: April 09, 2024, 09:09:10 AM »
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  • "I'm pro life" - Donald Trump. 



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    « Reply #3 on: April 09, 2024, 10:37:40 AM »
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    « Reply #4 on: April 09, 2024, 12:03:41 PM »
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  • When Israel gets this guy elected, the hands will rub oh, so more intensely. 


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    Re: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances
    « Reply #5 on: April 09, 2024, 03:19:14 PM »
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  • No Catholic can with good conscience cast a ballot for Trump at this point.
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    « Reply #6 on: April 09, 2024, 03:54:55 PM »
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  • No Catholic can with good conscience cast a ballot for Trump at this point.

    Agreed.  At this point, no possible argument can be made that stands up to test of double effect in voting for him.  Anything else would be "lesser evil" reasoning, i.e. that Biden is more pro-abortion than Trump.

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    Re: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances
    « Reply #7 on: April 09, 2024, 08:47:24 PM »
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  • This isn’t new and these objections were already dealt with in 2015-16. We know Trump isn’t a True Conservative like Jeb, Lindsay Graham & Ted Cruz. Not surprisingly, the cuckservative establishment is using this issue to undermine Trump and the Pro-Life Movement joins right in because they’re still angry that he exposed them in 2016.

    All of you who oppose Trump almost always direct people back to the GOPe and the faker aspects of yesteryears culture wars (which in turn allows the left to regain lost ground), while claiming to be “to the right of Trump” because you’re not solid on immigration and race. “Traditional Catholics” in the US are either allied to Con Inc. or are too blind, stupid, and unwise to see how you are used by them.

    The dissident/alt-right already laid out the plan to end abortion in the long run, many of you should have been paying attention instead of becoming short-sighted, self-righteous pharisees.
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    Re: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances
    « Reply #8 on: April 09, 2024, 10:03:43 PM »
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  • This isn’t new and these objections were already dealt with in 2015-16. We know Trump isn’t a True Conservative like Jeb, Lindsay Graham & Ted Cruz. Not surprisingly, the cuckservative establishment is using this issue to undermine Trump and the Pro-Life Movement joins right in because they’re still angry that he exposed them in 2016.

    All of you who oppose Trump almost always direct people back to the GOPe and the faker aspects of yesteryears culture wars (which in turn allows the left to regain lost ground), while claiming to be “to the right of Trump” because you’re not solid on immigration and race. “Traditional Catholics” in the US are either allied to Con Inc. or are too blind, stupid, and unwise to see how you are used by them.

    The dissident/alt-right already laid out the plan to end abortion in the long run, many of you should have been paying attention instead of becoming short-sighted, self-righteous pharisees.


    One question, is he playing 4D or 6D chess this time? :laugh1:
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    Re: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances
    « Reply #9 on: April 09, 2024, 10:31:11 PM »
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  • No Catholic can with good conscience cast a ballot for Trump at this point.
    Exactly. You have this point to express if people ever ask "why?" you didn't vote.
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    Re: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances
    « Reply #10 on: April 09, 2024, 11:12:59 PM »
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  • One question, is he playing 4D or 6D chess this time? :laugh1:
    ZeroD, because he never ran as a culture warrior and avoided the left’s traps to focus on bigger issues. That he may not have succeeded on those issues is one thing, but falling for these attacks on him does us no good. That’s why the whole “I feel betrayed by Trump” over this comes off as fake and gαy.
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    « Reply #11 on: April 10, 2024, 06:09:34 AM »
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  • I was already not planning to vote for him, but what about this news makes this a definite no vote for Trump?  Did he really change his stance?  What Republican candidate has ever been 100% pro-life (or non-zionist for that matter)? From what I remember, those who were 100% pro-life were never the GOP's pick.
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    « Reply #12 on: April 10, 2024, 07:18:26 AM »
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  • He will *maybe* get my respect if his court picks get Obergefell overturned.
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    Re: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances
    « Reply #13 on: April 10, 2024, 07:43:35 AM »
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  • He will *maybe* get my respect if his court picks get Obergefell overturned.
    That is very unlikely to happen. And should it happen, the states will rush to enshrine sodomite "marriage" and more through legislation or referendum.
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    Re: Trump touts support for IVF, abortion in various circuмstances
    « Reply #14 on: April 10, 2024, 09:06:41 AM »
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  • He will *maybe* get my respect if his court picks get Obergefell overturned.

    His SCOTUS picks operate according to what the monied powers-that-be want, not according to God's ways. The Caitlyn Jenner/David Rubin/Dick Cheney cohort of the GOP won't have it any other way. (Remember that Obergefell was fundamentally about property rights and estate law.) Did you not see that Melania's fundraiser gala last week was specifically for an audience of deep-pocket sodomites?

    Alito deep in his heart maybe knew that the truly right thing to do was to declare flat out that abortion at any stage of gestation is murder, but he understood that punting to the states was the only legalistic maneuver available. Too bad that the organized left (despite their hissy fit theatrics, gotta get the coeds marching and screeching every so often) was eagerly awaiting this outcome and already prepared with their own local court challenges and state-level ballot referenda.

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