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Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.

And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.

No. It just means that the European continent had more exposure to the true faith, had more resources available, etc. There are many factors, as I have said many times before, that contribute to the production of culture. The Church brought to Europe the best of many cultures and ethnicities, and Europe benefited as a result.  

No. It just means that the European continent had more exposure to the true faith, had more resources available, etc. There are many factors, as I have said many times before, that contribute to the production of culture. The Church brought to Europe the best of many cultures and ethnicities, and Europe benefited as a result.  

The question really is not that hard. If you really think Africans are on the same level as Germanic peoples then you have a lesser rational nature. :wink:

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I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church.  Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.

I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".

I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.

Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.

Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.

I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.

I am very suspicious of his views on religion because he is obsessed with the Pfeifferville seminary "succeeding" even though it has proven unworthy to even exist on many counts.  I don't know whether he thinks the clumsy operation there will ultimate blemish Catholicism; views it as a path for infiltrating the priesthood (my understanding is that his brother is a seminarian there); or what.  But something is severely amiss with his level of obsession with this arguably schismatic operation.  And then to see his modernist views on race adds another level of suspicion.  And he had an avatar of a frocked heretic from children's jewtube programming for quite sometime and only defended the frocked heretic and having him as his avatar in the face of just rebuke.

I am not suggesting being weak. I am suggesting that you cut the insults because they make you look childish and petty. If you want to refute their point, good. If you want to point out logical fallacies, great. But in what way does insulting someone bolster your argument? Answer: It doesn't, it merely makes you look like an angry child with a keyboard. I am just pointing out what I am seeing and that is you and OHCA insulting Chavez because he holds an opinion. I also see you speaking of white RACIAL supremacy over everyone else, and all I am thinking is "Is this a protestant or what?". Regardless of my opinion you are sinking your own boat and I am trying to point it out for the sake of civil debate.

Who is insulting? I just stated that he is a mestizo which is a racial fact. The argument of racial supremacy boils down to a "Protestant" attitude because people who do not read up on it think that way. Now if everyone would stop the insulting and gladly return to the topic of the thread I will do that.

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Quote from: ManuelChavez

I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church.  Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.

I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".

I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.

Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.

Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.

I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.

I am very suspicious of his views on religion because he is obsessed with the Pfeifferville seminary "succeeding" even though it has proven unworthy to even exist on many counts.  I don't know whether he thinks the clumsy operation there will ultimate blemish Catholicism; views it as a path for infiltrating the priesthood (my understanding is that his brother is a seminarian there); or what.  But something is severely amiss with his level of obsession with this arguably schismatic operation.  And then to see his modernist views on race adds another level of suspicion.  And he had an avatar of a frocked heretic from children's jewtube programming for quite sometime and only defended the frocked heretic and having him as his avatar in the face of just rebuke.

I am fighting a battle of the faith, and you still digress into meaningless trifles and personal squabbles, and resort to rumor mongering and libelous speculation. You can do better than this.

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Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Quote from: AnonymousCatholic

Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.

And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.

You aren't saying culture, you are saying RACE. Catholic means universal so there is no superior race. Culture on the other hand can be superior but only because the mantle of Catholicism and all the boons that it carries.

How does the fact that the Church is universal mean that all people are equal?

God loves everyone equally for they are ALL His children.

That doesn't mean everyone is the same but everyone deserves respect and kindness as a human being. Even if they are evil, a Catholics respect for other humans and his kindness to other humans are what shall earn him or her heaven.

Quote from: OHCA

Quote from: Traditional Guy 20

Quote from: ManuelChavez

I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church.  Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.

I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".

I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.

Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.

Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.

I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.

I am very suspicious of his views on religion because he is obsessed with the Pfeifferville seminary "succeeding" even though it has proven unworthy to even exist on many counts.  I don't know whether he thinks the clumsy operation there will ultimate blemish Catholicism; views it as a path for infiltrating the priesthood (my understanding is that his brother is a seminarian there); or what.  But something is severely amiss with his level of obsession with this arguably schismatic operation.  And then to see his modernist views on race adds another level of suspicion.  And he had an avatar of a frocked heretic from children's jewtube programming for quite sometime and only defended the frocked heretic and having him as his avatar in the face of just rebuke.

I am fighting a battle of the faith, and you still digress into meaningless trifles and personal squabbles, and resort to rumor mongering and libelous speculation. You can do better than this.

So the schismatic fraud simulating Mass at Pfeifferville was a "meaningless trifle?"  You make me want to puke!  I don't value anything you say!  You are either a snake in the grass infiltrator or you shouldn't be allowed out of your house without adult supervision.

I doubt you know anything about Africa and Blacks and about Latin American culture mestizo mutt. We already tried to convert people that lack the same culture-creating ability and look how Mexico turned out..

Who's insulting? Really? You call someone a mutt which calls to question your own intelligence, given that's all you and OHCA have been doing this whole thread. Look I was raised with passive aggressive Protestant relatives, I know the Protestant arguing style when I see it.