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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: Traditional Guy 20 on February 07, 2016, 07:41:24 PM
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Having done one about Iran and seeing as I have a love affair with the Orient (especially Japan) I will now talk about a few truths about Japan and why the need for it to be destroyed by America (which surprise, surprise is a Jєωιѕн lackey).
1. If you look at the history of both Japan and China it is quite obvious that those two peoples are superior to other Asians (Mongoloids if you will) by their superior history and culture and one could even argue that these two peoples, while non-European, have the same culture-creating tendencies as Europeans. Again as with Iran a strong race and a strong nation is threatening to the Jews and even though the Jews were not persecuted in Japan (the Japanese government in fact told them that no Jew would be arrested or deported) the idea of a Japanese Empire with a strong Japanese people proud of their race (and like Germany) creating laws against racial mixing was a threat to the Jєωιѕн hydra which required racial mixing and a culture made for bastards (as in America).
2. Japan's religion of Shintoism promotes (similar to Islam) an honor system of the family where a family's honor (especially dying for the nation or the Emperor) is of all importance along with promoting the spirit of action in circuмstances that it is needed. Even during World War II this ideal was still alive and well as can be seen by the infamous "Bushido Code" and the idea of kamikaze. The idea of a higher idealism is completely alien and dangerous to the Jєωιѕн peoples since it is their nature to only embrace their own egoism and their own selfish interests. On the other hand they fear any Gentiles who have a higher ideal and the devotion to it.
3. As has been mentioned Japanese are not racially Germanic (obviously they are Asian) but both Germany and Japan feel they have a similar spirit to the other. Japan admires the German spirit of hard-work and determination and Japan feels that Germany and it have similar cultural values. Even today the "nαzι costumes" are not banned in Japan despite American bitching and moaning about "German racism" and surprisingly young Japanese actually wear such costumes (I admit more for "playing dress-up" than for anything). Recently as 2012 97% of Japanese (!) view Germany as a partner and someone they respect. Having such a close-connected spirit with Germany is also terrifying to Jewry since they know what country in Europe has always been their foe and that is Germany.
4. Japan, prior to World War II, started to look back in appreciation for the samurai and started to look at disgust towards the Meiji Restoration, which opened up Japan to Western materialism. According to Japanese historians before the Meiji Restoration Japan had been a classless society under the benevolent Emperor and Japan even started to promote "classless marriages" prior to World War II where a man and woman were picked not based on class, but both having superior intellect, which would make the child intelligent as well. Also in the spirit of class collaboration Japan banned the trade unions and made councils of industrialists and workers to solve problems in the factories. Such a collaborative system was upsetting to Bolshevism and the spirit of class warfare and also degenerative Westerners who wished to make money in Japan.
5. As has been mentioned Japan had its own racial laws which prohibited Japanese women to intermix with Whites, Blacks and Koreans to preserve the superior Japanese race.
6. Starting with the Russo-Japanese War in 1904-05 the Jews looked at Japan as a country that was a threat to the "Soviet Paradise" in Russia and with the Anglo-Japanese Alliance the "Democratic Paradise" in America. The Jews in charge of both countries would ban together so that America would come in to take over. Since that time America and Russia has indeed flooded Japan and Taiwan with a degenerate Western society, the ideas of racial mixing and the advent of Social Democracy which was not in existence before.
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Racial segregation and "purity' are not compatible with Catholic theology or practice. Mixed " races" is not a Jєωιѕн tactic to control society.
Having a mixed ethnic background does not make one inferior or subject to Jєωιѕн mind control.
The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
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Racial segregation and "purity' are not compatible with Catholic theology or practice. Mixed " races" is not a Jєωιѕн tactic to control society.
Having a mixed ethnic background does not make one inferior or subject to Jєωιѕн mind control.
The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
Do I really have to post that article again on what the Catholic Church practiced in Spain against Jews and Muslims?
Anyway you are completely off-topic as to what the thread is about.
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The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
Speaking of which the Church put Jews in ghettos until Liberalism let them out and Jews are racially Semitic, coming from the Middle East.
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Racial segregation and "purity' are not compatible with Catholic theology or practice. Mixed " races" is not a Jєωιѕн tactic to control society.
Having a mixed ethnic background does not make one inferior or subject to Jєωιѕн mind control.
The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
Do I really have to post that article again on what the Catholic Church practiced in Spain against Jews and Muslims?
Anyway you are completely off-topic as to what the thread is about.
You mean what one country practiced to prevent false converts from infiltrating the Church? Firstly, it was in one region at a particular time, and it was not a dogmatic teaching, nor was it universally practiced. It was also not an edict against the mixing of ethnicities.
Your anti-Catholic concepts and outlook of racial purity and hatred of mixed ethnicities are at the very heart of the matter. It perverts your messages, and does not deserve to be on what should be a traditional Catholic forum.
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The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
Speaking of which the Church put Jews in ghettos until Liberalism let them out and Jews are racially Semitic, coming from the Middle East.
That is not ethnic segregation. It is based on religion, not "race".
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Racial segregation and "purity' are not compatible with Catholic theology or practice. Mixed " races" is not a Jєωιѕн tactic to control society.
Having a mixed ethnic background does not make one inferior or subject to Jєωιѕн mind control.
The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
Says the mutt...
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Racial segregation and "purity' are not compatible with Catholic theology or practice. Mixed " races" is not a Jєωιѕн tactic to control society.
Having a mixed ethnic background does not make one inferior or subject to Jєωιѕн mind control.
The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
Says the mutt...
You have a problem with that? The Church has no problem with "mutts" and neither should you. Stick to the teaching and practice of Holy Mother Church, not some godless secularists.
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Racial segregation and "purity' are not compatible with Catholic theology or practice. Mixed " races" is not a Jєωιѕн tactic to control society.
Having a mixed ethnic background does not make one inferior or subject to Jєωιѕн mind control.
The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
Says the mutt...
You have a problem with that? The Church has no problem with "mutts" and neither should you. Stick to the teaching and practice of Holy Mother Church, not some godless secularists.
These days it is evident that mixed-race relationships occur due to the basest of reasons, and far more frequently diabolically lure people away from the Church than result in conversions.
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Racial segregation and "purity' are not compatible with Catholic theology or practice. Mixed " races" is not a Jєωιѕн tactic to control society.
Having a mixed ethnic background does not make one inferior or subject to Jєωιѕн mind control.
The notions of "racial purity" and segregation come not from the church, but from secular humanist errors. It is anti-scriptural and anti-Catholic.
Says the mutt...
You have a problem with that? The Church has no problem with "mutts" and neither should you. Stick to the teaching and practice of Holy Mother Church, not some godless secularists.
These days it is evident that mixed-race relationships occur due to the basest of reasons, and far more frequently diabolically lure people away from the Church than result in conversions.
What evidence do you have for this claim? One could claim this for all relationships in current times, not just mixed relations, as evidenced by the ever increasing secularism in society. As man moves away from God, the base desires take over reason and intellect.
Once again, the Church has no problem with so-called "mutts". Stick to the teaching of the Church. Traditional Guy 20 is espousing notions that are not Catholic in origin or nature.
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Your anti-Catholic concepts and outlook of racial purity and hatred of mixed ethnicities are at the very heart of the matter. It perverts your messages, and does not deserve to be on what should be a traditional Catholic forum.
I think you should stay out of these race discussions. It is obvious that you are too emotionally involved due to your own mixed-ethnicity. Your bias distorts and perverts your perspective.
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Your anti-Catholic concepts and outlook of racial purity and hatred of mixed ethnicities are at the very heart of the matter. It perverts your messages, and does not deserve to be on what should be a traditional Catholic forum.
I think you should stay out of these race discussions. It is obvious that you are too emotionally involved due to your own mixed-ethnicity. Your bias distorts and perverts your perspective.
No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. The Catholic Church has not condemned or looked down upon mixed ethnicities. I will stand with the Church on this matter.
Will you?
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No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. [sic]
Of course you don't recognize it. But you get all emotional and whiny about this topic the same as you do about Pfeifferville, another topic in which you are too emotionally invested to discuss rationally.
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No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. [sic]
Of course you don't recognize it. But you get all emotional and whiny about this topic the same as you do about Pfeifferville, another topic in which you are too emotionally invested to discuss rationally.
I have been quite rational in this matter. You are the emotional one, going on the attack to divert attention from the fact that you and Traditional Guy 20 are wrong on this matter, and that Traditional Guy 20's notions are not Catholic.
We are not talking about Boston, so why bring it up? As further diversion, of course, and as a feeble attempt to attack my writing in regards to the OP.
I have recognized differences between ethnicities. It is one thing to recognize differences, it is another to qualify these differences, or to claim that one ethnicity is superior to another, or to claim that mixed ethnicities are inferior.
There is no superior race. It doesn't exist. Racial purity is not taught by the Church. Qualifying the various ethnicities in terms of superiority or inferiority is a waste of time for a traditional Catholic, and does more harm than good.
If you agree with Traditional Guy's outlook on the "races", then you should try to defend it through the teachings and practices of the Church (if possible). If you cannot do so, then perhaps you should reconsider your outlook on this matter.
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No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. [sic]
Of course you don't recognize it. But you get all emotional and whiny about this topic the same as you do about Pfeifferville, another topic in which you are too emotionally invested to discuss rationally.
We are not talking about Boston, so why bring it up? As further diversion, of course, and as a feeble attempt to attack my writing in regards to the OP.
I'm not trying to divert at all. Your effeminate whininess regarding this topic simply reminded me how you are by the other one. Also parallelling both topics is the fact that you are personally invested, biased, and have an agenda. You are not the least bit subtle in your biases. That is why you are not credible and have such a low rating on this forum.
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No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. [sic]
Of course you don't recognize it. But you get all emotional and whiny about this topic the same as you do about Pfeifferville, another topic in which you are too emotionally invested to discuss rationally.
We are not talking about Boston, so why bring it up? As further diversion, of course, and as a feeble attempt to attack my writing in regards to the OP.
I'm not trying to divert at all. Your effeminate whininess regarding this topic simply reminded me how you are by the other one. Also parallelling both topics is the fact that you are personally invested, biased, and have an agenda. You are not the least bit subtle in your biases. That is why you are not credible and have such a low rating on this forum.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
You certainly complain a lot about my supposed effeminate "whininess" and bias. Perhaps the pot is calling the kettle black? It would seem so.
I don't worry about my low rating. I'm not here to be popular, but to speak and fight for the truth.
Also, you once again diverted from the topic at hand, so your first sentence is a lie.
If you agree with Traditional Guy 20, then let's see some evidence that the Church supports these notions of a superior race, that mixed ethnicities are inferior. If there is no support for these ideas, stop supporting them.
No more diversions. It's time to put up or shut up.
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No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. [sic]
Of course you don't recognize it. But you get all emotional and whiny about this topic the same as you do about Pfeifferville, another topic in which you are too emotionally invested to discuss rationally.
We are not talking about Boston, so why bring it up? As further diversion, of course, and as a feeble attempt to attack my writing in regards to the OP.
I'm not trying to divert at all. Your effeminate whininess regarding this topic simply reminded me how you are by the other one. Also parallelling both topics is the fact that you are personally invested, biased, and have an agenda. You are not the least bit subtle in your biases. That is why you are not credible and have such a low rating on this forum.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
You certainly complain a lot about my supposed effeminate "whininess" and bias. Perhaps the pot is calling the kettle black? It would seem so.
I don't worry about my low rating. I'm not here to be popular, but to speak and fight for the truth.
Also, you once again diverted from the topic at hand, so your first sentence is a lie.
If you agree with Traditional Guy 20, then let's see some evidence that the Church supports these notions of a superior race, that mixed ethnicities are inferior. If there is no support for these ideas, stop supporting them.
No more diversions. It's time to put up or shut up.
Traditional Guy 20 has already given you some info about the Church's position, and you made a game of 101 Excuses out of it. Besides, I am not aware of any dogmatic teaching about the matter. What I do know is that interracial couples have a higher percentage of shack-ups, split-ups, and bastardy. Also, the offspring of such couples are disadvantaged from the start due to the high stigma associated with it. That frequently leaves the offspring with the odds stacked that they will end up in a relationship with a thug unless they are unusually high-achievers or from the rare interracial family of good morals and significantly above modest means.
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No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. [sic]
Of course you don't recognize it. But you get all emotional and whiny about this topic the same as you do about Pfeifferville, another topic in which you are too emotionally invested to discuss rationally.
We are not talking about Boston, so why bring it up? As further diversion, of course, and as a feeble attempt to attack my writing in regards to the OP.
I'm not trying to divert at all. Your effeminate whininess regarding this topic simply reminded me how you are by the other one. Also parallelling both topics is the fact that you are personally invested, biased, and have an agenda. You are not the least bit subtle in your biases. That is why you are not credible and have such a low rating on this forum.
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."
You certainly complain a lot about my supposed effeminate "whininess" and bias. Perhaps the pot is calling the kettle black? It would seem so.
I don't worry about my low rating. I'm not here to be popular, but to speak and fight for the truth.
Also, you once again diverted from the topic at hand, so your first sentence is a lie.
If you agree with Traditional Guy 20, then let's see some evidence that the Church supports these notions of a superior race, that mixed ethnicities are inferior. If there is no support for these ideas, stop supporting them.
No more diversions. It's time to put up or shut up.
Traditional Guy 20 has already given you some info about the Church's position, and you made a game of 101 Excuses out of it. Besides, I am not aware of any dogmatic teaching about the matter. What I do know is that interracial couples have a higher percentage of shack-ups, split-ups, and bastardy. Also, the offspring of such couples are disadvantaged from the start due to the high stigma associated with it. That frequently leaves the offspring with the odds stacked that they will end up in a relationship with a thug unless they are unusually high-achievers or from the rare interracial family of good morals and significantly above modest means.
All of those supposed "facts" are from your own imagination, and are designed to support your flawed view of the world.
Traditional Guy 20 offered only one piece of evidence. It was a limited time, in a limited locale, and was not intended to condemn, prohibit, discourage or eliminate mixed ethnicities. That is the truth of the matter, not a game of 101 excuses.
The Church has never been against mixed ethnicities. There is no superior "race". Ethnic mixing is not a primary cause of the problems you listed. Sin is found in all ethnicities, for all are sinners.
Traditional Guy 20 and you are simply biased against mixed ethnicities, and even though the Church blesses mixed ethnicities, you will condemn them by using false pretenses.
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I think we've had enough of these charades. It is all a cover to spread hatred of those considered less worthy, and a means to promote an anti-Catholic concept by disguising it as Catholic, and by layering on one false accusation after another against mixed ethnic groups.
There is no master race, no superior race, no such thing as pure blood. It is all a deception, and you have bought into it. Christ is the shepherd and we are all His sheep. In this context, it is pointless to argue on which sheep are superior.
The Church has not condemned, prohibited or restricted mixed ethnicities. If you have a problem, that is because you hold your false, humanist-inspired notions above the teaching of the Church.
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Thanks for this post. I usually make a big deal abpout xenophobia like Manuel is, but I don't see this Japanese sentiment as racism or xenophobia, ect. I see them in a mode of self preservation and patriotism. I don't see this attitude as beeing specifically against Catholic teaching if it is promoted within Japan or any other country. There are limits and boundaries as to how far this hsould go, of course. I don't think that two catholics seeking marriage in the Catholic Church and of different ethnic groups should be incarcerated or punished. If, however, they have to pay an extra fee for a marriage license to dicourage this, I see nothing wrong with this. (Keep in mind that I am American and my wife is Brazilian.)
The post should have focused on the Catholic culture among the Japanese. For example, it's a well known fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two most Catholic cities in Japan and probably selected for that reason (unknown martyrs?). In fact, the southern cities had a strong Catholic influence, but the Dutch were always trying to provoke problems between the Japanese Catholics and the emperors. (Those horrible Portuguese sailors that we here about in secular education were not the culprits.) the Dutch were tagged up with the Jews in the slave trade, that even included the Japanese. The Church would step in, and they didn't want that.
I did a short article on this, but today I don't have time to translate it. I have a Japanese EFL student in five minutes. Tchau.
The Shimabara "Rebellion".
http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.com.br/2016/01/rebeliao-de-shimabara-e-amakusaos.html
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All of those supposed "facts" are from your own imagination, and are designed to support your flawed view of the world.
So you deny that the percentage of bastardy is higher among negroes and mixed-race couples than among pure whites?
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All of those supposed "facts" are from your own imagination, and are designed to support your flawed view of the world.
So you deny that the percentage of bastardy is higher among negroes and mixed-race couples than among pure whites?
I do not have, nor have I seen any conclusive evidence that alludes to your claim. Also, I am not sure who qualifies as "pure white", as Traditional Guy 20 makes a distinction between the French, Italians, Germans, etc.
What constitutes as mixed race is also unclear. If anything, "white" is not a "race", but a variety of similar ethnicities.
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Thanks for this post. I usually make a big deal abpout xenophobia like Manuel is, but I don't see this Japanese sentiment as racism or xenophobia, ect. I see them in a mode of self preservation and patriotism. I don't see this attitude as beeing specifically against Catholic teaching if it is promoted within Japan or any other country. There are limits and boundaries as to how far this hsould go, of course. I don't think that two catholics seeking marriage in the Catholic Church and of different ethnic groups should be incarcerated or punished. If, however, they have to pay an extra fee for a marriage license to dicourage this, I see nothing wrong with this. (Keep in mind that I am American and my wife is Brazilian.)
The post should have focused on the Catholic culture among the Japanese. For example, it's a well known fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two most Catholic cities in Japan and probably selected for that reason (unknown martyrs?). In fact, the southern cities had a strong Catholic influence, but the Dutch were always trying to provoke problems between the Japanese Catholics and the emperors. (Those horrible Portuguese sailors that we here about in secular education were not the culprits.) the Dutch were tagged up with the Jews in the slave trade, that even included the Japanese. The Church would step in, and they didn't want that.
I did a short article on this, but today I don't have time to translate it. I have a Japanese EFL student in five minutes. Tchau.
The Shimabara "Rebellion".
http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.com.br/2016/01/rebeliao-de-shimabara-e-amakusaos.html
The issue I have with this post may be found in the following excerpt:
"...Jєωιѕн hydra which required racial mixing and a culture made for bastards (as in America)."
He holds the following as his own ideal:
5. As has been mentioned Japan had its own racial laws which prohibited Japanese women to intermix with Whites, Blacks and Koreans to preserve the superior Japanese race.
This is what Traditional Guy 20 is peddling as an appropriate, Catholic action; the complete segregation of the "races".
Traditional Guy 20 has made it clear that he devalues those of "mixed" origins, and considers them to be inferior, such as the cross breed between members of the feline family (which is not an appropriate comparison in regards to the scientific classification). This outlook is not Catholic in nature and has no place on a Catholic forum.
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All of those supposed "facts" are from your own imagination, and are designed to support your flawed view of the world.
So you deny that the percentage of bastardy is higher among negroes and mixed-race couples than among pure whites?
I do not have, nor have I seen any conclusive evidence that alludes to your claim.
Do you live in a bubble?
What constitutes as mixed race is also unclear.
There may be some close calls, but most objectionable situations are abundantly clear.
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Acc to Taviani ( Columbus Bio) Japan gets its name from the Italian Gioponne(sp?) ( Gioppone)(sp?). This was a name given by Marco Polo when he returned to Italy.
Before Polo there was another name which I cannot recall at the moment. :detective:
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Thanks for this post. I usually make a big deal abpout xenophobia like Manuel is, but I don't see this Japanese sentiment as racism or xenophobia, ect. I see them in a mode of self preservation and patriotism. I don't see this attitude as beeing specifically against Catholic teaching if it is promoted within Japan or any other country. There are limits and boundaries as to how far this hsould go, of course. I don't think that two catholics seeking marriage in the Catholic Church and of different ethnic groups should be incarcerated or punished. If, however, they have to pay an extra fee for a marriage license to dicourage this, I see nothing wrong with this. (Keep in mind that I am American and my wife is Brazilian.)
The post should have focused on the Catholic culture among the Japanese. For example, it's a well known fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two most Catholic cities in Japan and probably selected for that reason (unknown martyrs?). In fact, the southern cities had a strong Catholic influence, but the Dutch were always trying to provoke problems between the Japanese Catholics and the emperors. (Those horrible Portuguese sailors that we here about in secular education were not the culprits.) the Dutch were tagged up with the Jews in the slave trade, that even included the Japanese. The Church would step in, and they didn't want that.
Hey Centro-america.
You have to know the difference between pride and just hate. For instance I am prideful of my Germanic heritage but that does not make me hate other races that show the same cultural ability (like the Japanese for instance). I also feel closer to the Arabs than people of my own race who are Jєωιѕн in their thoughts like the British. I also feel that American Indians, especially the Sioux have a rightful hatred of America since America did take their land from them.
Also Brazil has a percentage of people that are Northern/Western European so the country itself does not mean a race is mixed.
Obviously America chose those two cities to wipe out as many good civilians as possible and as was mentioned afterwards America perverted Japan even further. I am glad you mentioned the Dutch also since there was a special reason that Japan took over the Dutch East Indies (they were tired of the Dutch causing trouble in their region), and despised Britain (the British ended their alliance with Japan thanks to American and Jєωιѕн pressure which insulted Japan) and America (need I say anything about what America did to Japan?)
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The issue I have with this post may be found in the following excerpt:
"...Jєωιѕн hydra which required racial mixing and a culture made for bastards (as in America)."
He holds the following as his own ideal:
5. As has been mentioned Japan had its own racial laws which prohibited Japanese women to intermix with Whites, Blacks and Koreans to preserve the superior Japanese race.
This is what Traditional Guy 20 is peddling as an appropriate, Catholic action; the complete segregation of the "races".
Traditional Guy 20 has made it clear that he devalues those of "mixed" origins, and considers them to be inferior, such as the cross breed between members of the feline family (which is not an appropriate comparison in regards to the scientific classification). This outlook is not Catholic in nature and has no place on a Catholic forum.
The ghettos were not just based on religion but also on race. Jews are a race not just a religion and are racially Semitic from the Middle East. Tell me why the Jews are so willing to racially degrade those in Europe but have no problem keeping their own bloodline pure? I also mentioned that in the Spanish and Portuguese Empires that a strict racial caste was made which put your Europeans on top, mixed races in the upper middle ranks, Indians in the lower middle ranks, and Blacks at the bottom.
The ghettos I mentioned was a segregation of race and not just religion. So yes racial segregation has a long history in the Catholic Church. Your Marxist view of racial and social equality is also not religious at all except in the homeland of Hugo Chavez. :smirk:
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Do you live in a bubble?
He knows what we're saying. He's just being a blowhard trying to distract the true nature of this thread, which was to show why Bolshevism and a decadent democracy like America wanted to destroy Japan. Whether he is mestizo or Spanish he obviously has a problem with me talking about mixed races since he has an "inferiority complex."
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Do you live in a bubble?
He knows what we're saying. He's just being a blowhard trying to distract the true nature of this thread, which was to show why Bolshevism and a decadent democracy like America wanted to destroy Japan. Whether he is mestizo or Spanish he obviously has a problem with me talking about mixed races since he has an "inferiority complex."
Something is certainly amiss about him. I detected a hint of freemasonic/judaic liberalism about him even before his Marxist position about race came to light. He is deeply mixed up (no pun intended). He apparently still clings to Mister Rogers' Marxist fairytales as a grown man-child for identity and self-worth. His entire approach to life seems like a stroll through the make-believe world of "The Neighborhood." Hopefully he always wears his helmet and never carries more than ice cream money when he leaves the house.
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The issue I have with this post may be found in the following excerpt:
"...Jєωιѕн hydra which required racial mixing and a culture made for bastards (as in America)."
He holds the following as his own ideal:
5. As has been mentioned Japan had its own racial laws which prohibited Japanese women to intermix with Whites, Blacks and Koreans to preserve the superior Japanese race.
This is what Traditional Guy 20 is peddling as an appropriate, Catholic action; the complete segregation of the "races".
Traditional Guy 20 has made it clear that he devalues those of "mixed" origins, and considers them to be inferior, such as the cross breed between members of the feline family (which is not an appropriate comparison in regards to the scientific classification). This outlook is not Catholic in nature and has no place on a Catholic forum.
The ghettos were not just based on religion but also on race. Jews are a race not just a religion and are racially Semitic from the Middle East. Tell me why the Jews are so willing to racially degrade those in Europe but have no problem keeping their own bloodline pure? I also mentioned that in the Spanish and Portuguese Empires that a strict racial caste was made which put your Europeans on top, mixed races in the upper middle ranks, Indians in the lower middle ranks, and Blacks at the bottom.
The ghettos I mentioned was a segregation of race and not just religion. So yes racial segregation has a long history in the Catholic Church. Your Marxist view of racial and social equality is also not religious at all except in the homeland of Hugo Chavez. :smirk:
Racial purity is an illusion and a poor attempt to retain a power that one never had, or lost through sin. In the case of the Jews, it can be seen as a pathetic attempt to retain that which was lost two thousand years ago.
Racial segregation is a Protestant ideal, and is not Catholic. The Church has never condemned ethnic mixing. The Ghettos were because of their Jєωιѕн religion. Racial segregation can be seen as a Jєωιѕн ideal, as the Jews strove for a vain and ultimately worthless "purity", as you seem to desire.
I am no Marxist. That is your pitiable attempt to undermine my assessment of your bigoted notions. I am against the notion of racial purity and superiority.
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Do you live in a bubble?
He knows what we're saying. He's just being a blowhard trying to distract the true nature of this thread, which was to show why Bolshevism and a decadent democracy like America wanted to destroy Japan. Whether he is mestizo or Spanish he obviously has a problem with me talking about mixed races since he has an "inferiority complex."
Never assume.
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Do you live in a bubble?
He knows what we're saying. He's just being a blowhard trying to distract the true nature of this thread, which was to show why Bolshevism and a decadent democracy like America wanted to destroy Japan. Whether he is mestizo or Spanish he obviously has a problem with me talking about mixed races since he has an "inferiority complex."
Something is certainly amiss about him. I detected a hint of freemasonic/judaic liberalism about him even before his Marxist position about race came to light. He is deeply mixed up (no pun intended). He apparently still clings to Mister Rogers' Marxist fairytales as a grown man-child for identity and self-worth. His entire approach to life seems like a stroll through the make-believe world of "The Neighborhood." Hopefully he always wears his helmet and never carries more than ice cream money when he leaves the house.
OHCA, it is time for you to go away.
Matthew McDevitt, your website has a virus, and it is in the form of Traditional Guy 20 and OHCA. These two are whited sepulcher Pharisees, a cancer in the heart of Cathinfo.
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Do you live in a bubble?
He knows what we're saying. He's just being a blowhard trying to distract the true nature of this thread, which was to show why Bolshevism and a decadent democracy like America wanted to destroy Japan. Whether he is mestizo or Spanish he obviously has a problem with me talking about mixed races since he has an "inferiority complex."
Something is certainly amiss about him. I detected a hint of freemasonic/judaic liberalism about him even before his Marxist position about race came to light. He is deeply mixed up (no pun intended). He apparently still clings to Mister Rogers' Marxist fairytales as a grown man-child for identity and self-worth. His entire approach to life seems like a stroll through the make-believe world of "The Neighborhood." Hopefully he always wears his helmet and never carries more than ice cream money when he leaves the house.
OHCA, it is time for you to go away.
Matthew McDevitt, your website has a virus, and it is in the form of Traditional Guy 20 and OHCA. These two are whited sepulcher Pharisees, a cancer in the heart of Cathinfo.
Get a life, you Marxist mutt. You go away--go back to your blog about 30 Days in La-La Land or some other imaginary lofty calling.
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OHCA, it is time for you to go away.
Matthew McDevitt, your website has a virus, and it is in the form of Traditional Guy 20 and OHCA. These two are whited sepulcher Pharisees, a cancer in the heart of Cathinfo.
How pathetic. You refuse to admit anything I said and instead want to shut me up. You told me not to assume but judging by your posts I will assume this: you are a stupid Goy who is a useful tool for Jewry. I will say yet again that the Jews were the ones to say race does not matter and that race is a social construct. Before the Jews corrupted the scientific field race was a known FACT.
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OHCA, it is time for you to go away.
Matthew McDevitt, your website has a virus, and it is in the form of Traditional Guy 20 and OHCA. These two are whited sepulcher Pharisees, a cancer in the heart of Cathinfo.
How pathetic. You refuse to admit anything I said and instead want to shut me up. You told me not to assume but judging by your posts I will assume this: you are a stupid Goy who is a useful tool for Jewry.
I'm not totally convinced that he's a goy.
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OHCA, it is time for you to go away.
Matthew McDevitt, your website has a virus, and it is in the form of Traditional Guy 20 and OHCA. These two are whited sepulcher Pharisees, a cancer in the heart of Cathinfo.
How pathetic. You refuse to admit anything I said and instead want to shut me up. You told me not to assume but judging by your posts I will assume this: you are a stupid Goy who is a useful tool for Jewry. I will say yet again that the Jews were the ones to say race does not matter and that race is a social construct. Before the Jews corrupted the scientific field race was a known FACT.
I refuse to admit to what you have said because you are in error. The Jews value their racial purity too highly, and it has not given them dominion over anything eternal, and it certainly won't win them heaven, but it may garner unto them the fires of hell. Obsession with racial purity is a sickness.
The scientific field is an ever changing environment, one that must never be raised to the certainty of truth. Race is mostly socially constructed, and can be affected by a multitude of factors. Ethnic differences may be a fact, but superiority and inferiority are opinion. Minor genetic differences do not make one superior to another.
Racial superiority is a myth and an opinion that is not befitting of a Catholic.
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I refuse to admit to what you have said because you are in error. The Jews value their racial purity too highly, and it has not given them dominion over anything eternal, and it certainly won't win them heaven, but it may garner unto them the fires of hell. Obsession with racial purity is a sickness.
The scientific field is an ever changing environment, one that must never be raised to the certainty of truth. Race is mostly socially constructed, and can be affected by a multitude of factors. Ethnic differences may be a fact, but superiority and inferiority are opinion. Minor genetic differences do not make one superior to another.
Racial superiority is a myth and an opinion that is not befitting of a Catholic.
Then you believe in the Jєωιѕн myth in modern science CREATED BY JEWS (Franz Boaz= Jew) that race is a social construct.
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I refuse to admit to what you have said because you are in error. The Jews value their racial purity too highly, and it has not given them dominion over anything eternal, and it certainly won't win them heaven, but it may garner unto them the fires of hell. Obsession with racial purity is a sickness.
The scientific field is an ever changing environment, one that must never be raised to the certainty of truth. Race is mostly socially constructed, and can be affected by a multitude of factors. Ethnic differences may be a fact, but superiority and inferiority are opinion. Minor genetic differences do not make one superior to another.
Racial superiority is a myth and an opinion that is not befitting of a Catholic.
Then you believe in the Jєωιѕн myth in modern science CREATED BY JEWS (Franz Boaz= Jew) that race is a social construct.
And who created the notion of a superior race? Not the Catholic Church, that much is certain. Racial superiority is a social construct.
Race is one thing (though I prefer the term "ethnicity", as it is more precise in its meaning). Racial superiority is something else. I acknowledge ethnic differences. I do not accept the notion of superiority or inferiority, nor do I condemn mixed ethnicities as you have done so.
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And who created the notion of a superior race? Not the Catholic Church, that much is certain. Racial superiority is a social construct.
Race is one thing (though I prefer the term "ethnicity", as it is more precise in its meaning). Racial superiority is something else. I acknowledge ethnic differences. I do not accept the notion of superiority or inferiority, nor do I condemn mixed ethnicities as you have done so.
The notion of what races are superior can be used without science just by using your eyes. No one would ever say that Africans are superior to Germans in cultural level or that Africans are superior to Japanese in cultural level. Anyone who would say such a thing is a retard who has no rationalism or understanding of what makes people different. I think you're a mixed mestizo judging by your name and your constant obsession with me talking about mixed people. :wink:
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As I read more into the concept of race as a science, it appears to be based not on Catholic theology, but on reformation era ideas, the Enlightenment and the Protestant revolt. The work of Christoph Meiners comes to mind, and his ideas can be seen as precursors to Traditional Guy 20's own ideas on race.
I do not take my understanding of my neighbor from a heretical thinker as Voltaire, or from Franz Boaz, but from Holy Mother Church. You should read up on your faith, and spend less time on the myth of racial purity and superiority.
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As I read more into the concept of race as a science, it appears to be based not on Catholic theology, but on reformation era ideas, the Enlightenment and the Protestant revolt. The work of Christoph Meiners comes to mind, and his ideas can be seen as precursors to Traditional Guy 20's own ideas on race.
I do not take my understanding of my neighbor from a heretical thinker as Voltaire, or from Franz Boaz, but from Holy Mother Church. You should read up on your faith, and spend less time on the myth of racial purity and superiority.
Nice on ignoring everything I said. I will ask yet again do you consider Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic people or Japanese?
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As I read more into the concept of race as a science, it appears to be based not on Catholic theology, but on reformation era ideas, the Enlightenment and the Protestant revolt. The work of Christoph Meiners comes to mind, and his ideas can be seen as precursors to Traditional Guy 20's own ideas on race.
I do not take my understanding of my neighbor from a heretical thinker as Voltaire, or from Franz Boaz, but from Holy Mother Church. You should read up on your faith, and spend less time on the myth of racial purity and superiority.
Nice on ignoring everything I said. I will ask yet again do you consider Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic people or Japanese?
They're still marveled by the crude wheel in Africa, while Germany and Japan are building BMWs and Acuras.
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And who created the notion of a superior race? Not the Catholic Church, that much is certain. Racial superiority is a social construct.
Race is one thing (though I prefer the term "ethnicity", as it is more precise in its meaning). Racial superiority is something else. I acknowledge ethnic differences. I do not accept the notion of superiority or inferiority, nor do I condemn mixed ethnicities as you have done so.
The notion of what races are superior can be used without science just by using your eyes. No one would ever say that Africans are superior to Germans in cultural level or that Africans are superior to Japanese in cultural level. Anyone who would say such a thing is a retard who has no rationalism or understanding of what makes people different. I think you're a mixed mestizo judging by your name and your constant obsession with me talking about mixed people. :wink:
Culture is affected by various factors. Ethnic differences and genetics are only two of these factors. Life is affected by climate, availability of resources, natural obstacles, by social interaction and by religious beliefs and more. It is erroneous and short-sighted to say that cultural ability is solely or even primarily based on race or genetics, when there are so many other factors to consider.
African culture is not homogeneous, as there are multiple African cultures, as there are different cultures in Asia, the Pacific Islands, Europe, etc. There is no singular African culture. Ethiopian culture is different form that of Mali or Botswana. They each have something different to offer.
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As I read more into the concept of race as a science, it appears to be based not on Catholic theology, but on reformation era ideas, the Enlightenment and the Protestant revolt. The work of Christoph Meiners comes to mind, and his ideas can be seen as precursors to Traditional Guy 20's own ideas on race.
I do not take my understanding of my neighbor from a heretical thinker as Voltaire, or from Franz Boaz, but from Holy Mother Church. You should read up on your faith, and spend less time on the myth of racial purity and superiority.
Nice on ignoring everything I said. I will ask yet again do you consider Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic people or Japanese?
Your question does not change the fact that race as a science is influenced by non-Catholic and anti-Catholic ideology, and is not based on the teaching of Holy Mother Church.
Every culture has something of value to offer. Some cultures have a greater impact on history than others. Many factors are involved in a culture's historical impact and longevity. Religion makes a greater impact on the benefits of a given culture than does "race". A culture that is firmly rooted in the Catholic Church is superior to that of any other culture.
A good and holy Catholic of mixed ethnicity is superior to a supposedly "racially pure" Atheist or agnostic. The Catholic culture of mixed ethnic origin is superior to that of a culture of "racially pure" heretics and pagans. Therefore, it is entirely possible for any given African nation to be culturally superior to any European nation.
Archbishop Lefebvre's work in the country of Senegal showed the cultural potential of the people of Africa. This good and holy work could have led to a great awakening in that part of Africa, but the forces of evil are hard at work to destroy Christ and His Church.
The problem with American culture is not racial or ethnic mixing, but the loss of the faith. This is where the true battle must be fought. Race is a diversion from the true fight, which is a fight for the salvation of souls.
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They're still marveled by the crude wheel in Africa, while Germany and Japan are building BMWs and Acuras.
Haha! Careful it was those evil Europeans that implanted something in the dirt to make them revert back to savages in Africa! Don't forget that! :rolleyes:
Even if we don't look at technology and look at culture Germanic people have the peasant dress and great classical music like Haydn and Bach. Japan has the kimono and relaxing music of the Orient. Africa has the loincloth around their legs and bongo beating and dancing around the campfire and their music is loud, without any order and discipline, hyped-up and sensual since Blacks always think very sɛҳuąƖ.
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Your question does not change the fact that race as a science is influenced by non-Catholic and anti-Catholic ideology, and is not based on the teaching of Holy Mother Church.
It's a yes or no question. Are Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic peoples or Japan?
Every culture has something of value to offer. Some cultures have a greater impact on history than others. Many factors are involved in a culture's historical impact and longevity. Religion makes a greater impact on the benefits of a given culture than does "race". A culture that is firmly rooted in the Catholic Church is superior to that of any other culture.
No, no, no. You praised Egypt, the Middle East, Greece and Rome for cultural achievements and those people were not religious Catholics.
A good and holy Catholic of mixed ethnicity is superior to a supposedly "racially pure" Atheist or agnostic. The Catholic culture of mixed ethnic origin is superior to that of a culture of "racially pure" heretics and pagans. Therefore, it is entirely possible for any given African nation to be culturally superior to any European nation.
I will admit that atheists are not good people but let me say that it is Islam that will eventually win the masses in Asia and Africa over not Catholicism. However in Latin America, which are racially mixed they still revert back to their old Indian religions and have more love for it than a "European religion." That shows you how powerful race is.
The problem with American culture is not racial or ethnic mixing, but the loss of the faith. This is where the true battle must be fought. Race is a diversion from the true fight, which is a fight for the salvation of souls.
Racial mixing is a problem in America since that has let the Jews rule America and has lead to a sick culture that is half-Jєωιѕн the other half Negro. Now there are other problems in America such as being a capitalist society and an infantile culture, etc. but race does predetermine how well a society acts.
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From Traditional Guy 20: It's a yes or no question. Are Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic peoples or Japan?
My response: They could be, but there are many factors to consider when looking at cultural ability, not just race or genetics.
From Traditional Guy 20: No, no, no. You praised Egypt, the Middle East, Greece and Rome for cultural achievements and those people were not religious Catholics.
My response: I praised these various cultures, for they paved the way for the possibility of the Catholic culture, and the spread of the Church. Their accomplishments found their perfection through the Church. It is the denial of the Church's true role in society that has caused the problems in society today, not the mixing of the "races".
Haydn was Austrian. Austria was strong in the Faith. Bach, who may have been Catholic, was influenced by the power and majesty of the Church, and though Lutheranism was strong in Germany, the influence of the Catholic Church was still strong, and the Church's impact on Germanic culture was still prevalent.
From Traditional Guy 20: I will admit that atheists are not good people but let me say that it is Islam that will eventually win the masses in Asia and Africa over not Catholicism. However in Latin America, which are racially mixed they still revert back to their old Indian religions and have more love for it than a "European religion." That shows you how powerful race is.
My Response: Islam nearly conquered the whole world. It may try to do so again. That is not new.
The reversion of some Latin Americans to old ways is not caused by genetics or "race". It is caused by social change, the infusion of liberal notions of race and by external forces who desire the destruction of any sort of Catholic culture. This return to primitive ways is manufactured by the liberal and modernist onslaught.
An example of this cultural manipulation is seen in higher education, especially in the Americas. The notion is that the Latinos were superior before the arrival of the "Europeans," and that they should embrace their superiority through a removal of outside cultural and religious influence. La Raza and "black lives matters" are examples of this modernist manipulation.
From Traditional Guy 20: Racial mixing is a problem in America since that has let the Jews rule America and has lead to a sick culture that is half-Jєωιѕн the other half Negro. Now there are other problems in America such as being a capitalist society and an infantile culture, etc. but race does predetermine how well a society acts.
My Response: Those are unfounded fears meant to cause division. The United states is not anywhere near half-Jєωιѕн and half-negro. The American culture may be sick, but that is because of the decrease of the Church's influence on society. Racial mixing has not led to a degenerate society; the obsession with racial purity, however, has caused much destruction and division. The modernist and liberal agenda to destroy the Church has caused this degeneration of society, and racial "purity" is part of that equation.
South America and Mexico are good examples of ethnic mixing, as the cultures were thriving and producing many holy souls. South America and Mexico also a good example of the damage done by anti-Catholics. Gabriel Garcia Moreno was on track to turn Ecuador into an outstanding Catholic culture (also one of mixed-ethnic origins), until Freemasonic traitors ended this. The Cristeros fought this liberal onslaught with their lives. These warriors for Christ were of mixed ethnic origin; French, Spanish, native and others.
The Catholic Church herself is the best example of ethnic mixing as being beneficial. The Church is universal, and has used the best of every culture that has embraced the faith. The Church has never been a "pure race only" society, and any such notion of a "pure or superior race" does not conform to the teaching of the Church.
You have been poisoned by the notions of Protestant and enlightenment era anti-Catholics, such as Voltaire, Meiners, Darwin and others.
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You have been poisoned by the notions of Protestant and enlightenment era anti-Catholics, such as Voltaire, Meiners, Darwin and others.
If we're going to make baseless accusations I will make accusations myself. You have been poisoned by Jєωιѕн racial theory like Boaz that says there is no difference between (Gentile) races and that race is a social construct. Ha Mexico and South America (besides maybe Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay) have an inferior culture to other nations in the world although I do think they would be useful for trade. :wink:
"Haydn was Austrian."
Uh Austria is racially Germanic and even racially German.
"Those cultures paved the way for Catholicism..."
Uh Egypt and the Middle East never paved the way for Catholicism. The Islamic Empire only paved the way for more learning in Europe really. Asian cultures like Japan and China never had anything to do with Catholicism and still have a culture is on the same level as other culture-creators like in Europe and still are superior to the sub-Sahara.
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You have been poisoned by the notions of Protestant and enlightenment era anti-Catholics, such as Voltaire, Meiners, Darwin and others.
If we're going to make baseless accusations I will make accusations myself. You have been poisoned by Jєωιѕн racial theory like Boaz that says there is no difference between (Gentile) races and that race is a social construct. Ha Mexico and South America (besides maybe Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay) have an inferior culture to other nations in the world although I do think they would be useful for trade. :wink:
"Haydn was Austrian."
Uh Austria is racially Germanic and even racially German.
"Those cultures paved the way for Catholicism..."
Uh Egypt and the Middle East never paved the way for Catholicism. The Islamic Empire only paved the way for more learning in Europe really. Asian cultures like Japan and China never had anything to do with Catholicism and still have a culture is on the same level as other culture-creators like in Europe and still are superior to the sub-Sahara.
I never said that there is not difference between ethnicities. I have repeatedly said that there are differences between ethnicities, but that these differences do not alone account for the differences in cultural ability. You, on the other hand, have espoused enlightenment-era ideals, and you continue to do so. Deny that if you must, but that does not change this fact.
One can say that the main reason that the Germanic cultures produced what they did was because of the influence of the Church. Look at the degeneration of the Germanic and western cultures now that the influence of the Church has diminished, and look at the barbaric Germanic tribes before the influence of the Church. No, the Church has given much to the Germanic and western cultures. During the early years, the Church was from Rome, from Jerusalem and from surrounding areas. It was not a racially pure Church, nor has the Church ever been or sought out racial purity.
Asian cultures are not racially pure cultures, as each has drawn from their neighbors their cultural and genetic identities. Racial purity is a fanciful myth, and all the examples of great cultures and civilizations can prove this.
I doubt you know anything about the cultures of South America and Mexico, and that you are totally ignorant on the many cultures of Africa.
Your comment on Egypt and the middle-east are not supported by history. God had used the best of these ancient cultures for the good of His Church. You need to hit the history books again, and perhaps do more research on the various cultures of the world before condemning then in ignorance as you have done so.
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I never said that there is not difference between ethnicities. I have repeatedly said that there are differences between ethnicities, but that these differences do not alone account for the differences in cultural ability. You, on the other hand, have espoused enlightenment-era ideals, and you continue to do so. Deny that if you must, but that does not change this fact.
One can say that the main reason that the Germanic cultures produced what they did was because of the influence of the Church. Look at the degeneration of the Germanic and western cultures now that the influence of the Church has diminished, and look at the barbaric Germanic tribes before the influence of the Church. No, the Church has given much to the Germanic and western cultures. During the early years, the Church was from Rome, from Jerusalem and from surrounding areas. It was not a racially pure Church, nor has the Church ever been or sought out racial purity.
Asian cultures are not racially pure cultures, as each has drawn from their neighbors their cultural and genetic identities. Racial purity is a fanciful myth, and all the examples of great cultures and civilizations can prove this.
I doubt you know anything about the cultures of South America and Mexico, and that you are totally ignorant on the many cultures of Africa.
Your comment on Egypt and the middle-east are not supported by history. God had used the best of these ancient cultures for the good of His Church. You need to hit the history books again, and perhaps do more research on the various cultures of the world before condemning then in ignorance as you have done so.
Hugo Chavez I will ask yet again. Are Blacks superior in culture to Germanic peoples or the Japanese?
You are correct that not all Asian cultures are racially pure. For instance places like Vietnam, Laos, Mongolia, the South Sea Islands, etc. have about the same cultural level as Latin America. However the Hans Chinese and the Yamato in Japan are the races that built both countries and in that sense the Japanese in particular are similar in quality to Germanic blood.
The Hamites that built Egypt and the Semites in the Middle East are inferior to Mediterranean peoples and Germanic peoples (and Chinese and Japanese) but superior to mixed races, Negroes, Mongoloids and Black Australians so of course the Arabs built a better civilisation in the Middle East and Egyptians in Egypt.
I doubt you know anything about Africa and Blacks and about Latin American culture mestizo mutt. We already tried to convert people that lack the same culture-creating ability and look how Mexico turned out...
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I never said that there is not difference between ethnicities. I have repeatedly said that there are differences between ethnicities, but that these differences do not alone account for the differences in cultural ability. You, on the other hand, have espoused enlightenment-era ideals, and you continue to do so. Deny that if you must, but that does not change this fact.
One can say that the main reason that the Germanic cultures produced what they did was because of the influence of the Church. Look at the degeneration of the Germanic and western cultures now that the influence of the Church has diminished, and look at the barbaric Germanic tribes before the influence of the Church. No, the Church has given much to the Germanic and western cultures. During the early years, the Church was from Rome, from Jerusalem and from surrounding areas. It was not a racially pure Church, nor has the Church ever been or sought out racial purity.
Asian cultures are not racially pure cultures, as each has drawn from their neighbors their cultural and genetic identities. Racial purity is a fanciful myth, and all the examples of great cultures and civilizations can prove this.
I doubt you know anything about the cultures of South America and Mexico, and that you are totally ignorant on the many cultures of Africa.
Your comment on Egypt and the middle-east are not supported by history. God had used the best of these ancient cultures for the good of His Church. You need to hit the history books again, and perhaps do more research on the various cultures of the world before condemning then in ignorance as you have done so.
Hugo Chavez I will ask yet again. Are Blacks superior in culture to Germanic peoples or the Japanese?
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They each have something different to offer.
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From Traditional Guy 20: Hugo Chavez I will ask yet again. Are Blacks superior in culture to Germanic peoples or the Japanese?
My Response: I am not Hugo Chavez.
This question cannot be given a yes or no answer, as many important factors must be taken into account.
If your question were rewritten into the following (or similar):
Are there any African cultures that could match the historical impact, reach or popularity of the cultural output of the Germanic regions of the 15th to the 19th centuries (or thereabouts)?
… The the question may be a little easier to answer. I cannot think of any particular African-based culture of the last few centuries that could compete with the cultural output of the Germanic regions of the given period.
I can think of many other cultures that can compete and even surpass the cultural output of the Germanic regions of the last 100+ years. So far, you have mentioned Haydn and Bach to extol the superiority of Germanic culture. Both have been dead for hundreds of years. Germany had a good run at one time, and produced many good works of art and architecture, among other things.
If Bach and Haydn are examples of racial and cultural superiority of the Germanic people, then where is Germany's current Bach? Will the new Haydn please stand?
This is why I stand by my assertion that there are MANY more factors that need to be considered, and that “race” is not one of the major factors.
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From Traditional Guy 20: You are correct that not all Asian cultures are racially pure. For instance places like Vietnam, Laos, Mongolia, the South Sea Islands, etc. have about the same cultural level as Latin America. However the Hans Chinese and the Yamato in Japan are the races that built both countries and in that sense the Japanese in particular are similar in quality to Germanic blood.
My Response: Actually, you are incorrect on this matter as well. Japan has never been a “pure race”. The Yamato, which began as hunter-gatherers, really took off once they intermingled with the Yayoi. This intermingling and ethnic mixing started Japan's cultural ascension.
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From Traditional Guy 20: The Hamites that built Egypt and the Semites in the Middle East are inferior to Mediterranean peoples and Germanic peoples (and Chinese and Japanese) but superior to mixed races, Negroes, Mongoloids and Black Australians so of course the Arabs built a better civilisation in the Middle East and Egyptians in Egypt.
My Response: Most of this is purely subjective, and not based on objective truth.
The Romans, Greeks and Egyptians during their golden ages were way more advanced than the pre-Christian Germanic tribes, by the way. This so-called “German superiority” owes a great deal to the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians who came before, and whose cultures helped form what we now know as Germanic culture. Without these cultures, Germany could be nothing more than a collection of scattered and divided tribes, similar to the various tribes and cultures of parts of Africa. Germanic culture would not have had the same impact on world history.
Most of all, Germanic culture owes a debt of gratitude to the Catholic Church. I have covered some of this in previous posts.
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From Traditional Guy 20: I doubt you know anything about Africa and Blacks and about Latin American culture mestizo mutt. We already tried to convert people that lack the same culture-creating ability and look how Mexico turned out...
My Response: You have displayed your lack of knowledge time and again. I have studied cultural anthropology and world history. I also read these two subjects for fun, during my off-time.
Mexico and South America were turning out quite well, until the work of the Church was undermined by Protestants, Jews and other enemies of the Church. Take a look at Ecuador under Moreno. Take a look at the work of the missionaries in the 15th and 16th centuries. There are plenty more examples.
It seems that the best you can do is try to insult my ethnic background. I take comfort in knowing that I actually know something about world cultures. I laugh at your outdated, comically-stereotypical understanding of world cultures. It is as though you learned about Africa from watching old Tarzan films.
Racial purity is a myth. It is a bad game, in which the only winning move is not to play.
How about a nice game of chess?
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How about a nice game of chess?
1 d4
Your move.
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No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. [sic]
Of course you don't recognize it. But you get all emotional and whiny about this topic the same as you do about Pfeifferville, another topic in which you are too emotionally invested to discuss rationally.
I am so white that a walk across the lawn will earn a sunburn... and I agree with St. Paul:
There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28
Sure there are racial and cultural differences, but there is no room in the Church for racial supremacism.
Further, I am seeing some truly ignorant assertions, e.g., the claim that Jews are "semitic." Scroll down to the research cited in the section labeled "Semites or Khazars—Who cares?": http://judaism.is/covenants.html
A few pages into this thread and I wager it is not worth my time to read the rest.
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It seems that the best you can do is try to insult my ethnic background. I take comfort in knowing that I actually know something about world cultures. I laugh at your outdated, comically-stereotypical understanding of world cultures. It is as though you learned about Africa from watching old Tarzan films.
Racial purity is a myth. It is a bad game, in which the only winning move is not to play.
How about a nice game of chess?
If it makes you feel any better please destroy America as quickly as possible by taking it over. :smile: "I take comfort...in knowing that I actually know about...culture." From a modern perspective you do which makes you a brainwashed mestizo mutt and a stupid Goy who serves the Jews' interests. However traditionally true science (science before 1940 when it comes to biology) would prove me correct in saying that the lighter your skin color, the higher you are on a racial scale, while the darker your skin color the lower you are.
"Where is Germany's Bach...Haydn..." As I said I am no Marxist so I believe in responsibility and performance. By that standard a man of that caliber only comes once in a blue moon.
"This response is purely subjective..."
Just look at the culture provided by certain races and you can see a natural progressing hierarchy:
Black Australians: (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/95/a6/ee/95a6ee28816496b1451dc4c26feb9490.jpg)
Equatorial Negroes: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Maasai_shelter.jpg)
Mongoloid: (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IIwh-3fD3WI/TOVryJ3R37I/AAAAAAAAAPA/uzobbaAGdKQ/s640/2.jpg)
Mestizo: (http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/weblog/guna6.jpg)
Eurasian: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Nancy_Kwan_and_her_father%2C_Kwan_Wing_Hong.jpg)
Mulatto: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Bob-Marley_3.jpg)
Afro-Asian: (https://www.scmp.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/04/scmp_16may14_fe_afr_990_photo_3_new_copy.jpg)
Zambo: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Zamba_of_Mesquititlan.png)
Semites: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Al-Masjid_al-Nabawi_06.jpg/800px-Al-Masjid_al-Nabawi_06.jpg)
Hamites: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Egypt.Giza.Sphinx.02.jpg/800px-Egypt.Giza.Sphinx.02.jpg)
Mediterraneans: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Palazzo_Chiericati_IB-Vicenza-01.jpg/800px-Palazzo_Chiericati_IB-Vicenza-01.jpg)
Chinese: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Gugun_panorama-2005-1.jpg)
Japanese: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Kinkaku3402CBcropped.jpg/1024px-Kinkaku3402CBcropped.jpg)
Germanic: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Schloss_Neuschwanstein_2013.jpg/800px-Schloss_Neuschwanstein_2013.jpg)
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I am so white that a walk across the lawn will earn a sunburn... and I agree with St. Paul:
There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28
Sure there are racial and cultural differences, but there is no room in the Church for racial supremacism.
Further, I am seeing some truly ignorant assertions, e.g., the claim that Jews are "semitic." Scroll down to the research cited in the section labeled "Semites or Khazars—Who cares?": http://judaism.is/covenants.html
A few pages into this thread and I wager it is not worth my time to read the rest.
Racial and cultural differences mean certain races have more cultural accomplishments than others.
Jews are racially Semitic originally although there have been mixtures in their blood, especially European mixtures. Jews are originally from Palestine/Syria so yes their original blood is Semitic just like the Arabs although they do have Khazar mixing. It is the Jews' racial nature of a dangerous intelligence matching European peoples that makes them so dangerous.
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Racial and cultural differences mean certain races have more cultural accomplishments than others.
Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?
Jews are racially Semitic originally although there have been mixtures in their blood, especially European mixtures. Jews are originally from Palestine/Syria so yes their original blood is Semitic just like the Arabs although they do have Khazar mixing. It is the Jews' racial nature of a dangerous intelligence matching European peoples that makes them so dangerous.
Their beliefs and behavior, like yours and mine, are a matter of free will, not DNA.
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Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?
They accomplish beautiful things on Earth. That is like saying that the Romans should have never built the Colosseum or the Pantheon since they were going to go to Elysium anyway.
Their beliefs and behavior, like yours and mine, are a matter of free will, not DNA.
The beliefs and behaviors of those people make them lesser than you and I. Their racial nature is an outflow of their religious doctrine which means they wish to racially lower a race higher than themselves so they can have an empire of stupid Goy as slaves.
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Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?
They accomplish beautiful things on Earth. That is like saying that the Romans should have never built the Colosseum or the Pantheon since they were going to go to Elysium anyway....
No, that is a straw man of your own construct. I am simply putting your hierarchy of "accomplishment" in Catholic perspective: "Neither Jew nor Greek... all one IN Christ Jesus."
Their beliefs and behavior, like yours and mine, are a matter of free will, not DNA.
The beliefs and behaviors of those people make them lesser than you and I. Their racial nature is an outflow of their religious doctrine which means they wish to racially lower a race higher than themselves so they can have an empire of stupid Goy as slaves.
They, like you, are obsessed with race and ethnicity, things we did not choose for ourselves. I think it is more productive to focus on the matters we choose, belief and behavior.
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Racial and cultural differences mean certain races have more cultural accomplishments than others.
Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?
I care about myself and my family not encountering a negroe's cultural accomplishment known as the "shank" in a dark alley. I care about my family not being exposed to their cultural "accomplishments" in music and fashion as well.
Also, as demonstrated by the recent Super Bowl, their limited sense of decorum, sportsmanship, etc., neither. Basically not anything about their method of attempting to navigate civilization and blend in as human beings.
I know there are some decent human beings, and some good moral Catholics among them. But there is, unfortunately, a large percentage who behave like savages from the streets to the limelights.
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Racial and cultural differences mean certain races have more cultural accomplishments than others.
Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?
I care about myself and my family not encountering a negroe's cultural accomplishment known as the "shank" in a dark alley. I care about my family not being exposed to their cultural "accomplishments" in music and fashion as well.
Also, as demonstrated by the recent Super Bowl, their limited sense of decorum, sportsmanship, etc., neither. Basically not anything about their method of attempting to navigate civilization and blend in as human beings.
I know there are some decent human beings, and some good moral Catholics among them. But there is, unfortunately, a large percentage who behave like savages from the streets to the limelights.
Most of us are able to avoid dark alleys. In other threads, I have discussed my preferences for concealed carry.
I haven't owned a тαℓмυdvision in many years, but when I did, it had both a channel selector and an "off" switch. For our family, all the Superbowl ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferianism was easily avoided.
"Behave like savages" is the key concept.
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It seems that the best you can do is try to insult my ethnic background. I take comfort in knowing that I actually know something about world cultures. I laugh at your outdated, comically-stereotypical understanding of world cultures. It is as though you learned about Africa from watching old Tarzan films.
Racial purity is a myth. It is a bad game, in which the only winning move is not to play.
How about a nice game of chess?
If it makes you feel any better please destroy America as quickly as possible by taking it over. :smile: "I take comfort...in knowing that I actually know about...culture." From a modern perspective you do which makes you a brainwashed mestizo mutt and a stupid Goy who serves the Jews' interests. However traditionally true science (science before 1940 when it comes to biology) would prove me correct in saying that the lighter your skin color, the higher you are on a racial scale, while the darker your skin color the lower you are.
"Where is Germany's Bach...Haydn..." As I said I am no Marxist so I believe in responsibility and performance. By that standard a man of that caliber only comes once in a blue moon.
"This response is purely subjective..."
Just look at the culture provided by certain races and you can see a natural progressing hierarchy:
Black Australians: (https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/95/a6/ee/95a6ee28816496b1451dc4c26feb9490.jpg)
Equatorial Negroes: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Maasai_shelter.jpg)
Mongoloid: (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IIwh-3fD3WI/TOVryJ3R37I/AAAAAAAAAPA/uzobbaAGdKQ/s640/2.jpg)
Mestizo: (http://www.greenhomebuilding.com/weblog/guna6.jpg)
Eurasian: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Nancy_Kwan_and_her_father%2C_Kwan_Wing_Hong.jpg)
Mulatto: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Bob-Marley_3.jpg)
Afro-Asian: (https://www.scmp.com/sites/default/files/2014/06/04/scmp_16may14_fe_afr_990_photo_3_new_copy.jpg)
Zambo: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Zamba_of_Mesquititlan.png)
Semites: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0f/Al-Masjid_al-Nabawi_06.jpg/800px-Al-Masjid_al-Nabawi_06.jpg)
Hamites: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Egypt.Giza.Sphinx.02.jpg/800px-Egypt.Giza.Sphinx.02.jpg)
Mediterraneans: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/83/Palazzo_Chiericati_IB-Vicenza-01.jpg/800px-Palazzo_Chiericati_IB-Vicenza-01.jpg)
Chinese: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Gugun_panorama-2005-1.jpg)
Japanese: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Kinkaku3402CBcropped.jpg/1024px-Kinkaku3402CBcropped.jpg)
Germanic: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Schloss_Neuschwanstein_2013.jpg/800px-Schloss_Neuschwanstein_2013.jpg)
One photo of each ethnicity reveals nothing of a culture as a whole. It does not cover cultural ability of a people.
Science is ever changing, because science is humanity's view of the world. It has not the infallibility of the Church, and is lesser in its essence than the theology of the Church. The science you hold so highly is based on anti-Catholic and enlightenment era ideals.
You persist in insulting me, which is indicative of someone who has no logical or reasonable counter argument.
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You persist in insulting me, which is indicative of someone who has no logical or reasonable counter argument.
No--it is not at all indicative of that. It just means that in addition to not agreeing with your freemasonic/jew/NWO view on race, he recognizes that you are a mutt. Plus, pointing out that you are a mutt unmasks your motive and bias in this discussion. If mutts and negroes are so grand, why is it that they are always having to convince white people instead of the other way around? Why don't they have nice things and exclude white people instead of the other way around? Why is black on white crime so high if they have equal culture, morals, etc.?
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I have told you many times of my rational counter-argument but you refuse to listen. Those pictures alone serve as an argument to further my point that race DOES matter. I can show you countless pictures of all groups to show which groups show less cultural ability.
Now I do agree with you in that certain countries do not have "pure races" such as England, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Greece, etc. but again it depends on the severity of the admixture in their blood. As OHCA correctly says I mention you are mestizo because that gives you a bias in looking at this. I also point that out since you have continually downgraded Germany and since I am Germanic myself I decided to do the same. :wink:
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Thanks for this post. I usually make a big deal abpout xenophobia like Manuel is, but I don't see this Japanese sentiment as racism or xenophobia, ect. I see them in a mode of self preservation and patriotism. I don't see this attitude as beeing specifically against Catholic teaching if it is promoted within Japan or any other country. There are limits and boundaries as to how far this hsould go, of course. I don't think that two catholics seeking marriage in the Catholic Church and of different ethnic groups should be incarcerated or punished. If, however, they have to pay an extra fee for a marriage license to dicourage this, I see nothing wrong with this. (Keep in mind that I am American and my wife is Brazilian.)
The post should have focused on the Catholic culture among the Japanese. For example, it's a well known fact that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two most Catholic cities in Japan and probably selected for that reason (unknown martyrs?). In fact, the southern cities had a strong Catholic influence, but the Dutch were always trying to provoke problems between the Japanese Catholics and the emperors. (Those horrible Portuguese sailors that we here about in secular education were not the culprits.) the Dutch were tagged up with the Jews in the slave trade, that even included the Japanese. The Church would step in, and they didn't want that.
I did a short article on this, but today I don't have time to translate it. I have a Japanese EFL student in five minutes. Tchau.
The Shimabara "Rebellion".
http://brasildogmadafe.blogspot.com.br/2016/01/rebeliao-de-shimabara-e-amakusaos.html
I heard somewhere that Germany had a very Catholic working class and from this thread it seems Japan may have had a deep rooted Catholicism in their working class as well. I will look into this and post my findings here but some food for thought: Both Japan and Germany supposedly had a strong Catholic working class at the time of WW2 and they both accomplished many feats during this time. Maybe that's why the West jumped down their throats so hard? :scratchchin:
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I heard somewhere that Germany had a very Catholic working class and from this thread it seems Japan may have had a deep rooted Catholicism in their working class as well. I will look into this and post my findings here but some food for thought: Both Japan and Germany supposedly had a strong Catholic working class at the time of WW2 and they both accomplished many feats during this time. Maybe that's why the West jumped down their throats so hard? :scratchchin:
Well Japan is only 2% Roman Catholic but the cultural values I was speaking of like hard work, determination, etc. is what Japanese respect about the Germans and try to copy themselves along with them seeing a similar culture. Germany at the time of WWII was still 60-65% Protestant, mostly Lutheran and 35% Roman Catholic though I am not sure what it was amongst the working-class Germans. Nowadays Germany is more Roman Catholic than Protestant since the Soviets took over former Protestant areas and made them atheist.
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You persist in insulting me, which is indicative of someone who has no logical or reasonable counter argument.
No--it is not at all indicative of that. It just means that in addition to not agreeing with your freemasonic/jew/NWO view on race, he recognizes that you are a mutt. Plus, pointing out that you are a mutt unmasks your motive and bias in this discussion. If mutts and negroes are so grand, why is it that they are always having to convince white people instead of the other way around? Why don't they have nice things and exclude white people instead of the other way around? Why is black on white crime so high if they have equal culture, morals, etc.?
More unfounded and uncharitable attacks ... I am not surprised. It is your modus operandi, and it is very unfortunate. If you were only able to look beyond your petty insults, you may yet realize that this is a battle for the faith. Open your eyes and see that what Traditional Guy 20 is peddling is not Catholic in any sense.
You have failed to elucidate which of my views are "freemasonic/jew/NWO" or how they can be described as such. I am not influenced by any of those groups. I am influenced by the Church and by the Scriptures.
I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church. Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.
I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".
I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.
Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.
Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.
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As I read more into the concept of race as a science, it appears to be based not on Catholic theology, but on reformation era ideas, the Enlightenment and the Protestant revolt. The work of Christoph Meiners comes to mind, and his ideas can be seen as precursors to Traditional Guy 20's own ideas on race.
I do not take my understanding of my neighbor from a heretical thinker as Voltaire, or from Franz Boaz, but from Holy Mother Church. You should read up on your faith, and spend less time on the myth of racial purity and superiority.
Nice on ignoring everything I said. I will ask yet again do you consider Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic people or Japanese?
Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.
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You persist in insulting me, which is indicative of someone who has no logical or reasonable counter argument.
No--it is not at all indicative of that. It just means that in addition to not agreeing with your freemasonic/jew/NWO view on race, he recognizes that you are a mutt. Plus, pointing out that you are a mutt unmasks your motive and bias in this discussion. If mutts and negroes are so grand, why is it that they are always having to convince white people instead of the other way around? Why don't they have nice things and exclude white people instead of the other way around? Why is black on white crime so high if they have equal culture, morals, etc.?
More unfounded and uncharitable attacks ... I am not surprised. It is your modus operandi, and it is very unfortunate. If you were only able to look beyond your petty insults, you may yet realize that this is a battle for the faith. Open your eyes and see that what Traditional Guy 20 is peddling is not Catholic in any sense.
You have failed to elucidate which of my views are "freemasonic/jew/NWO" or how they can be described as such. I am not influenced by any of those groups. I am influenced by the Church and by the Scriptures.
I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church. Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.
I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".
I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.
Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.
Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.
"freemasonic/jew/NWO" -- These are the forces pushing race-mixing, affirmative action, bussing, integration, etc. measures to artificially mix-up and "equalize" the races.
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I have told you many times of my rational counter-argument but you refuse to listen. Those pictures alone serve as an argument to further my point that race DOES matter. I can show you countless pictures of all groups to show which groups show less cultural ability.
Now I do agree with you in that certain countries do not have "pure races" such as England, Germany, Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Greece, etc. but again it depends on the severity of the admixture in their blood. As OHCA correctly says I mention you are mestizo because that gives you a bias in looking at this. I also point that out since you have continually downgraded Germany and since I am Germanic myself I decided to do the same. :wink:
The "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.
Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.
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"Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.
Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.
That means nothing.
The English are also "so white" and yet are the Jew among Germanic peoples.
lol you obviously have no knowledge of what this mestizo has been saying so you have no authority to lecture me on such matters as showing "charity."
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OHCA, Trad Guy;
You guys can't expect anyone to take you seriously when there is nothing but insults spewing from your mouth. Leave the fact-less insult fights to the Protestants, they're better at it anyway. But back to my point, say your piece and present your argument. Let the readers decide and see if they agree with you rather than insulting someone for making some very valid points. It's childish and petty.
As for the racial supremacy thing, you do realize that Catholic means universal, right?
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OHCA, Trad Guy;
You guys can't expect anyone to take you seriously when there is nothing but insults spewing from your mouth. Leave the fact-less insult fights to the Protestants, they're better at it anyway. But back to my point, say your piece and present your argument. Let the readers decide and see if they agree with you rather than insulting someone for making some very valid points. It's childish and petty.
As for the racial supremacy thing, you do realize that Catholic means universal, right?
If you would have read this post at the beginning you would have seen this mestizo started making baseless accusations when I did not mention race in a Germanic context and only mentioned Japan. It was he who decided to make this into "a race thing" by making sure he trolled my thread.
As for charity I believe a man who is kind in the face of attacks is a weak man and effeminate.
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Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.
And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.
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I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church. Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.
I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".
I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.
Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.
Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.
I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.
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Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.
And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.
No. It just means that the European continent had more exposure to the true faith, had more resources available, etc. There are many factors, as I have said many times before, that contribute to the production of culture. The Church brought to Europe the best of many cultures and ethnicities, and Europe benefited as a result.
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OHCA, Trad Guy;
You guys can't expect anyone to take you seriously when there is nothing but insults spewing from your mouth. Leave the fact-less insult fights to the Protestants, they're better at it anyway. But back to my point, say your piece and present your argument. Let the readers decide and see if they agree with you rather than insulting someone for making some very valid points. It's childish and petty.
As for the racial supremacy thing, you do realize that Catholic means universal, right?
If you would have read this post at the beginning you would have seen this mestizo started making baseless accusations when I did not mention race in a Germanic context and only mentioned Japan. It was he who decided to make this into "a race thing" by making sure he trolled my thread.
As for charity I believe a man who is kind in the face of attacks is a weak man and effeminate.
I am not suggesting being weak. I am suggesting that you cut the insults because they make you look childish and petty. If you want to refute their point, good. If you want to point out logical fallacies, great. But in what way does insulting someone bolster your argument? Answer: It doesn't, it merely makes you look like an angry child with a keyboard. I am just pointing out what I am seeing and that is you and OHCA insulting Chavez because he holds an opinion. I also see you speaking of white RACIAL supremacy over everyone else, and all I am thinking is "Is this a protestant or what?". Regardless of my opinion you are sinking your own boat and I am trying to point it out for the sake of civil debate.
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No. It just means that the European continent had more exposure to the true faith, had more resources available, etc. There are many factors, as I have said many times before, that contribute to the production of culture. The Church brought to Europe the best of many cultures and ethnicities, and Europe benefited as a result.
The question really is not that hard. If you really think Africans are on the same level as Germanic peoples then you have a lesser rational nature. :wink:
(https://scontent.fsan1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t34.0-12/12714252_1683617718574388_1992047143_n.jpg?oh=2c226869064d883650c7f97fe6959d92&oe=56BEEB45)
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I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church. Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.
I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".
I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.
Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.
Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.
I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.
That is because you refuse to see anything that does not coincide with your ideas. I stand with the Church. You are free to stand with Protestantized, "enlightened", atheistic western philosophers if you wish. You are free to believe in racial purity, which is of the flesh only, but I will focus on purity of the soul.
Matthew 23:25
Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.
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I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church. Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.
I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".
I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.
Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.
Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.
I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.
I am very suspicious of his views on religion because he is obsessed with the Pfeifferville seminary "succeeding" even though it has proven unworthy to even exist on many counts. I don't know whether he thinks the clumsy operation there will ultimate blemish Catholicism; views it as a path for infiltrating the priesthood (my understanding is that his brother is a seminarian there); or what. But something is severely amiss with his level of obsession with this arguably schismatic operation. And then to see his modernist views on race adds another level of suspicion. And he had an avatar of a frocked heretic from children's jewtube programming for quite sometime and only defended the frocked heretic and having him as his avatar in the face of just rebuke.
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Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.
And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.
You aren't saying culture, you are saying RACE. Catholic means universal so there is no superior race. Culture on the other hand can be superior but only because the mantle of Catholicism and all the boons that it carries.
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I am not suggesting being weak. I am suggesting that you cut the insults because they make you look childish and petty. If you want to refute their point, good. If you want to point out logical fallacies, great. But in what way does insulting someone bolster your argument? Answer: It doesn't, it merely makes you look like an angry child with a keyboard. I am just pointing out what I am seeing and that is you and OHCA insulting Chavez because he holds an opinion. I also see you speaking of white RACIAL supremacy over everyone else, and all I am thinking is "Is this a protestant or what?". Regardless of my opinion you are sinking your own boat and I am trying to point it out for the sake of civil debate.
Who is insulting? I just stated that he is a mestizo which is a racial fact. The argument of racial supremacy boils down to a "Protestant" attitude because people who do not read up on it think that way. Now if everyone would stop the insulting and gladly return to the topic of the thread I will do that.
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You aren't saying culture, you are saying RACE. Catholic means universal so there is no superior race. Culture on the other hand can be superior but only because the mantle of Catholicism and all the boons that it carries.
A religion might have the luxury of not believing in a superior race but a country definitely DOES NOT have that luxury unless they are insistent on race ѕυιcιdє.
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I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church. Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.
I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".
I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.
Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.
Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.
I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.
I am very suspicious of his views on religion because he is obsessed with the Pfeifferville seminary "succeeding" even though it has proven unworthy to even exist on many counts. I don't know whether he thinks the clumsy operation there will ultimate blemish Catholicism; views it as a path for infiltrating the priesthood (my understanding is that his brother is a seminarian there); or what. But something is severely amiss with his level of obsession with this arguably schismatic operation. And then to see his modernist views on race adds another level of suspicion. And he had an avatar of a frocked heretic from children's jewtube programming for quite sometime and only defended the frocked heretic and having him as his avatar in the face of just rebuke.
I am fighting a battle of the faith, and you still digress into meaningless trifles and personal squabbles, and resort to rumor mongering and libelous speculation. You can do better than this.
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Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.
And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.
You aren't saying culture, you are saying RACE. Catholic means universal so there is no superior race. Culture on the other hand can be superior but only because the mantle of Catholicism and all the boons that it carries.
How does the fact that the Church is universal mean that all people are equal?
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Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.
And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.
You aren't saying culture, you are saying RACE. Catholic means universal so there is no superior race. Culture on the other hand can be superior but only because the mantle of Catholicism and all the boons that it carries.
How does the fact that the Church is universal mean that all people are equal?
God loves everyone equally for they are ALL His children.
That doesn't mean everyone is the same but everyone deserves respect and kindness as a human being. Even if they are evil, a Catholics respect for other humans and his kindness to other humans are what shall earn him or her heaven.
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That is because you refuse to see anything that does not coincide with your ideas. I stand with the Church. You are free to stand with Protestantized, "enlightened", atheistic western philosophers if you wish. You are free to believe in racial purity, which is of the flesh only, but I will focus on purity of the soul.
Matthew 23:25
Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.
"I stand with the Church..." Irony of ironies. You also stand with the mortal foe of all religions...Marxism.
"You can stand with blah, blah, blah..." More meaningless words.
Again had you read my posts you would see that even in Europe there is no racial purity in Greece, Italy, France, Germany, Spain, England, etc.
Speaking of hypocrisy I find it funny people ask me to be humble when you mestizo hypocrite always brag about your supposed intellect (and reading books instead of practical experience speaks more against you than for you as that makes you detached) and then you tell me to watch my soul haha. My Christ you quote was also the biggest enemy of the Jews and of Jєωιѕн capitalism. :wink:
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I can show that many of Traditional Guy 20's notions are anti-Catholic in nature, and that he holds his notions of science as equal to the teaching and practices of the Church. Trad Guy shares a number of ideas with the 18th century philosopher Christoph Meiners, which is classified as scientific racism. Scientific racism is derived from enlightenment ideals, and from a Germany polluted by Protestantism as well as the "enlightenment" and atheistic western philosophy, which are attacks on the teachings of Holy Mother Church. Scientific racism and the theory of evolution are connected, as many of the early evolutionists also believed in racial purity and superiority.
I have also shown examples of how the notion of racial purity is a godless myth. Certain cultures at certain times have been more productive than other cultures, but this does not equate to a superiority of genetics or "race".
I am not acting out of bias in this matter. I know what the Church teaches and practices, and I am aware that what Trad Guy promotes is not Catholic at all. I suggest the two of you do more research, and reconsider your actions.
Culture and "having nice things" are not solely determined by "race". There are many more factors to consider; location, availability of resources, interaction with other ethnic groups, religion, etc.
Above all, charity. We fight for the faith, which is above all cultures, and should be embraced by all cultures. Our Church is multi-ethnic and of mixed ethnicities. Let us follow the model of the Church, and put aside the vain and godless notions of a pure or superior race.
I find it funny that you say "I have shown" when you have shown absolutely nothing. As for all your blabbering I realise a brainwashed buffoon like you would automatically give the connotation of Germany = Protestant. Your views on religion is a species of Marxism as you believe in racial and social equality.
I am very suspicious of his views on religion because he is obsessed with the Pfeifferville seminary "succeeding" even though it has proven unworthy to even exist on many counts. I don't know whether he thinks the clumsy operation there will ultimate blemish Catholicism; views it as a path for infiltrating the priesthood (my understanding is that his brother is a seminarian there); or what. But something is severely amiss with his level of obsession with this arguably schismatic operation. And then to see his modernist views on race adds another level of suspicion. And he had an avatar of a frocked heretic from children's jewtube programming for quite sometime and only defended the frocked heretic and having him as his avatar in the face of just rebuke.
I am fighting a battle of the faith, and you still digress into meaningless trifles and personal squabbles, and resort to rumor mongering and libelous speculation. You can do better than this.
So the schismatic fraud simulating Mass at Pfeifferville was a "meaningless trifle?" You make me want to puke! I don't value anything you say! You are either a snake in the grass infiltrator or you shouldn't be allowed out of your house without adult supervision.
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That doesn't mean everyone is the same but everyone deserves respect and kindness as a human being. Even if they are evil, a Catholics respect for other humans and his kindness to other humans are what shall earn him or her heaven.
You must be believing in a "kumbya" religion. Christ on the other hand chased the Jews out of the temple with a whip.
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I doubt you know anything about Africa and Blacks and about Latin American culture mestizo mutt. We already tried to convert people that lack the same culture-creating ability and look how Mexico turned out..
Who's insulting? Really? You call someone a mutt which calls to question your own intelligence, given that's all you and OHCA have been doing this whole thread. Look I was raised with passive aggressive Protestant relatives, I know the Protestant arguing style when I see it.
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You aren't saying culture, you are saying RACE. Catholic means universal so there is no superior race. Culture on the other hand can be superior but only because the mantle of Catholicism and all the boons that it carries.
A religion might have the luxury of not believing in a superior race but a country definitely DOES NOT have that luxury unless they are insistent on race ѕυιcιdє.
Race should be irrelevant because people should be uniting under the flag of Christ! Germans should not be uniting under Germany's flag to preserve their race. They should be uniting under the flag of Christ to save the HUMAN RACE!
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Who's insulting? Really? You call someone a mutt which calls to question your own intelligence, given that's all you and OHCA have been doing this whole thread. Look I was raised with passive aggressive Protestant relatives, I know the Protestant arguing style when I see it.
Wow you picked one of my quotes out to prove his case when you have continually ignored that this mestizo has down-graded Germany. Again if you look at the beginning he trolled this thread looking for a fight about race but you believe what you want.
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That doesn't mean everyone is the same but everyone deserves respect and kindness as a human being. Even if they are evil, a Catholics respect for other humans and his kindness to other humans are what shall earn him or her heaven.
You must be believing in a "kumbya" religion. Christ on the other hand chased the Jews out of the temple with a whip.
So because someone is racially Jєωιѕн they can't convert? Christ chased the taxpayers out of the temple because they were turning a place of worship into a marketplace.
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Race should be irrelevant because people should be uniting under the flag of Christ! Germans should not be uniting under Germany's flag to preserve their race. They should be uniting under the flag of Christ to save the HUMAN RACE!
Wow you sound like a German Social Democrat.
Germans have nothing in common with Slavs right over the border. There is no LARGE HUMAN RACE here without racial groups that are different.
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Who's insulting? Really? You call someone a mutt which calls to question your own intelligence, given that's all you and OHCA have been doing this whole thread. Look I was raised with passive aggressive Protestant relatives, I know the Protestant arguing style when I see it.
Wow you picked one of my quotes out to prove his case when you have continually ignored that this mestizo has down-graded Germany. Again if you look at the beginning he trolled this thread looking for a fight about race but you believe what you want.
Mexico outlawed abortion. Can German say the same? Mexico has a large Catholic population. Can Germany say the same? After all the ranting you do about Jews manipulating nations, do you honestly believe that the Jews would leave a Catholic Mexico to it's own devices?
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Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.
And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.
You aren't saying culture, you are saying RACE. Catholic means universal so there is no superior race. Culture on the other hand can be superior but only because the mantle of Catholicism and all the boons that it carries.
How does the fact that the Church is universal mean that all people are equal?
God loves everyone equally for they are ALL His children.
That doesn't mean everyone is the same but everyone deserves respect and kindness as a human being. Even if they are evil, a Catholics respect for other humans and his kindness to other humans are what shall earn him or her heaven.
I am not advocating being "unkind." I just oppose wholesale race-mixing, people being in positions and places where they are incapable of conducting themselves with the decorum commensurate therewith, etc. integration problems that are contributing to the lowering of the average level of good character, morals, and civilization within society.
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Who's insulting? Really? You call someone a mutt which calls to question your own intelligence, given that's all you and OHCA have been doing this whole thread. Look I was raised with passive aggressive Protestant relatives, I know the Protestant arguing style when I see it.
Wow you picked one of my quotes out to prove his case when you have continually ignored that this mestizo has down-graded Germany. Again if you look at the beginning he trolled this thread looking for a fight about race but you believe what you want.
I couldn't give a rats rear end about someone insulting Germany. They are the birthplace of Lutherans and Protestantism. I am protesting you insulting a specific person for having a very justified opinion.
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That is because you refuse to see anything that does not coincide with your ideas. I stand with the Church. You are free to stand with Protestantized, "enlightened", atheistic western philosophers if you wish. You are free to believe in racial purity, which is of the flesh only, but I will focus on purity of the soul.
Matthew 23:25
Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.
"I stand with the Church..." Irony of ironies. You also stand with the mortal foe of all religions...Marxism.
"You can stand with blah, blah, blah..." More meaningless words.
Again had you read my posts you would see that even in Europe there is no racial purity in Greece, Italy, France, Germany, Spain, England, etc.
Speaking of hypocrisy I find it funny people ask me to be humble when you mestizo hypocrite always brag about your supposed intellect (and reading books instead of practical experience speaks more against you than for you as that makes you detached) and then you tell me to watch my soul haha. My Christ you quote was also the biggest enemy of the Jews and of Jєωιѕн capitalism. :wink:
I am not Marxist. That is your pathetic attempt to libel me, nothing more. You have no proof of this, only your misinterpretations of what I have written. I have written that while differences between ethnicities exist, this does not alone account for the differences in cultural output, nor should it be used to justify the notion of a "pure" or "superior" race.
Your ideas on race are not Catholic, but are from the sources I have already mentioned; western, enlightenment philosophers; Protestants and atheists. It is distressing that you do not recognize this fact.
There is no racial purity anywhere on earth, and there has never been. That is why it is a myth. We do not follow such myths as Catholics.
I only mention what I have read and studied because it seems you regard mixed races as being intellectually inferior as well as culturally and genetically. I also think you need a lesson in humility, in realizing that you are incorrect and misinformed in your notions. You have exalted your notions of race, and I stepped in to humble them, to correct them, and show that these notions should not be embraced by those who call themselves Catholic.
Here is your slice of humble pie. Take it. Eat it. Learn from it. Maybe then, you may know more about Christ and His Universal Church, by leaving the myth and embracing the Truth.
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So because someone is racially Jєωιѕн they can't convert? Christ chased the taxpayers out of the temple because they were turning a place of worship into a marketplace.
Ah I am glad you brought this up. I think some half-Jews would be treated better and Jews who fought for Germany would be treated less harshly than Jews who corrupt culture, are Communists, Socialists, Liberals, etc.
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I couldn't give a rats rear end about someone insulting Germany. They are the birthplace of Lutherans and Protestantism. I am protesting you insulting a specific person for having a very justified opinion.
Then I assume you are either American or British who has anti-German hysteria then. Bavaria was Catholic and Italy was Catholic too (though the Popes had no problem exploiting Italians until the Italians could take no more). In your opinion it's justified but in my opinion he's a mestizo mixed-race who is angry that I call someone like him inferior racially.
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Europe held the mantle of Catholicism while Africans did not. In essence you're comparing the writing skills of a middle school teenager to a college graduate with a masters.
And you just proved my point on which culture is superior then.
You aren't saying culture, you are saying RACE. Catholic means universal so there is no superior race. Culture on the other hand can be superior but only because the mantle of Catholicism and all the boons that it carries.
How does the fact that the Church is universal mean that all people are equal?
God loves everyone equally for they are ALL His children.
That doesn't mean everyone is the same but everyone deserves respect and kindness as a human being. Even if they are evil, a Catholics respect for other humans and his kindness to other humans are what shall earn him or her heaven.
I am not advocating being "unkind." I just oppose wholesale race-mixing, people being in positions and places where they are incapable of conducting themselves with the decorum commensurate therewith, etc. integration problems that are contributing to the lowering of the average level of good character, morals, and civilization within society.
Then quit the whole Racial Supremacy thing. You are Catholic. You are universal. So start acting like it.
I am not suggesting tolerating a black person acting like a thug just because he is black. I am saying that all races are equally valuable in the eyes of God.
If you need examples look at what every single white nation has done to the Church. You can't blame Africa for Vatican two now can you? Or how about gαy people? Is that Africa's creation too? Or was it the Racially and Culturally superior Germans? The French? The Americans? The Austrians? The British? What did all these "Superior" races do while the world was being destroyed? Africa has not held the mantle of Catholicism yet so maybe you all better wait and see what they do with it before you start going on again about racial supremacy.
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Race should be irrelevant because people should be uniting under the flag of Christ! Germans should not be uniting under Germany's flag to preserve their race. They should be uniting under the flag of Christ to save the HUMAN RACE!
Wow you sound like a German Social Democrat.
Germans have nothing in common with Slavs right over the border. There is no LARGE HUMAN RACE here without racial groups that are different.
I didn't know democrats in Germany were Catholic. Maybe they are superior after all?
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I am not Marxist. That is your pathetic attempt to libel me, nothing more. You have no proof of this, only your misinterpretations of what I have written. I have written that while differences between ethnicities exist, this does not alone account for the differences in cultural output, nor should it be used to justify the notion of a "pure" or "superior" race.
Your ideas on race are not Catholic, but are from the sources I have already mentioned; western, enlightenment philosophers; Protestants and atheists. It is distressing that you do not recognize this fact.
There is no racial purity anywhere on earth, and there has never been. That is why it is a myth. We do not follow such myths as Catholics.
I only mention what I have read and studied because it seems you regard mixed races as being intellectually inferior as well as culturally and genetically. I also think you need a lesson in humility, in realizing that you are incorrect and misinformed in your notions. You have exalted your notions of race, and I stepped in to humble them, to correct them, and show that these notions should not be embraced by those who call themselves Catholic.
Here is your slice of humble pie. Take it. Eat it. Learn from it. Maybe then, you may know more about Christ and His Universal Church, by leaving the myth and embracing the Truth.
"I am not Marxist..." If it talks like a duck, walks like a duck but doesn't call himself a duck, he's still a duck.
"There is no racial purity..." I would argue in the Scandinavian countries those people are purely Germanic or were historically anyway until the modern era.
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So because someone is racially Jєωιѕн they can't convert? Christ chased the taxpayers out of the temple because they were turning a place of worship into a marketplace.
Ah I am glad you brought this up. I think some half-Jews would be treated better and Jews who fought for Germany would be treated less harshly than Jews who corrupt culture, are Communists, Socialists, Liberals, etc.
Irrelevant. Should a Jew be allowed to convert in your opinion?
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If you need examples look at what every single white nation has done to the Church. You can't blame Africa for Vatican two now can you? Or how about gαy people? Is that Africa's creation too? Or was it the Racially and Culturally superior Germans? The French? The Americans? The Austrians? The British? What did all these "Superior" races do while the world was being destroyed? Africa has not held the mantle of Catholicism yet so maybe you all better wait and see what they do with it before you start going on again about racial supremacy.
A Jew-ridden and effeminate society can be blamed for ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. Africa has had thousands of years to be culturally superior and yet is still a hellhole. It was better when Europeans ruled Africa and I would argue Africa should be under certain Europeans again excluding Egypt.
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That is because you refuse to see anything that does not coincide with your ideas. I stand with the Church. You are free to stand with Protestantized, "enlightened", atheistic western philosophers if you wish. You are free to believe in racial purity, which is of the flesh only, but I will focus on purity of the soul.
Matthew 23:25
Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.
"I stand with the Church..." Irony of ironies. You also stand with the mortal foe of all religions...Marxism.
"You can stand with blah, blah, blah..." More meaningless words.
Again had you read my posts you would see that even in Europe there is no racial purity in Greece, Italy, France, Germany, Spain, England, etc.
Speaking of hypocrisy I find it funny people ask me to be humble when you mestizo hypocrite always brag about your supposed intellect (and reading books instead of practical experience speaks more against you than for you as that makes you detached) and then you tell me to watch my soul haha. My Christ you quote was also the biggest enemy of the Jews and of Jєωιѕн capitalism. :wink:
I am not Marxist. That is your pathetic attempt to libel me, nothing more. You have no proof of this, only your misinterpretations of what I have written. I have written that while differences between ethnicities exist, this does not alone account for the differences in cultural output, nor should it be used to justify the notion of a "pure" or "superior" race.
Your ideas on race are not Catholic, but are from the sources I have already mentioned; western, enlightenment philosophers; Protestants and atheists. It is distressing that you do not recognize this fact.
There is no racial purity anywhere on earth, and there has never been. That is why it is a myth. We do not follow such myths as Catholics.
I only mention what I have read and studied because it seems you regard mixed races as being intellectually inferior as well as culturally and genetically. I also think you need a lesson in humility, in realizing that you are incorrect and misinformed in your notions. You have exalted your notions of race, and I stepped in to humble them, to correct them, and show that these notions should not be embraced by those who call themselves Catholic.
Here is your slice of humble pie. Take it. Eat it. Learn from it. Maybe then, you may know more about Christ and His Universal Church, by leaving the myth and embracing the Truth.
"I only mention what I have read and studied..." I don't care what what you "have read and studied" you overeducated embicile. What I know, I know from EXPERIENCE!! That's why what the hell ever you have read in some Jєωιѕн history book doesn't mean anything whatsoever to me! What you have read doesn't match reality. Pull your nose out of the books and go chill with a bunch of common negroes.
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I am not Marxist. That is your pathetic attempt to libel me, nothing more. You have no proof of this, only your misinterpretations of what I have written. I have written that while differences between ethnicities exist, this does not alone account for the differences in cultural output, nor should it be used to justify the notion of a "pure" or "superior" race.
Your ideas on race are not Catholic, but are from the sources I have already mentioned; western, enlightenment philosophers; Protestants and atheists. It is distressing that you do not recognize this fact.
There is no racial purity anywhere on earth, and there has never been. That is why it is a myth. We do not follow such myths as Catholics.
I only mention what I have read and studied because it seems you regard mixed races as being intellectually inferior as well as culturally and genetically. I also think you need a lesson in humility, in realizing that you are incorrect and misinformed in your notions. You have exalted your notions of race, and I stepped in to humble them, to correct them, and show that these notions should not be embraced by those who call themselves Catholic.
Here is your slice of humble pie. Take it. Eat it. Learn from it. Maybe then, you may know more about Christ and His Universal Church, by leaving the myth and embracing the Truth.
"I am not Marxist..." If it talks like a duck, walks like a duck but doesn't call himself a duck, he's still a duck.
"There is no racial purity..." I would argue in the Scandinavian countries those people are purely Germanic or were historically anyway until the modern era.
You might want to do some research on Marxism, because it is clear you don't actually know what a Marxist looks or sounds like. I hope you can identify ducks better than you can Marxists...
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That is because you refuse to see anything that does not coincide with your ideas. I stand with the Church. You are free to stand with Protestantized, "enlightened", atheistic western philosophers if you wish. You are free to believe in racial purity, which is of the flesh only, but I will focus on purity of the soul.
Matthew 23:25
Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.
"I stand with the Church..." Irony of ironies. You also stand with the mortal foe of all religions...Marxism.
"You can stand with blah, blah, blah..." More meaningless words.
Again had you read my posts you would see that even in Europe there is no racial purity in Greece, Italy, France, Germany, Spain, England, etc.
Speaking of hypocrisy I find it funny people ask me to be humble when you mestizo hypocrite always brag about your supposed intellect (and reading books instead of practical experience speaks more against you than for you as that makes you detached) and then you tell me to watch my soul haha. My Christ you quote was also the biggest enemy of the Jews and of Jєωιѕн capitalism. :wink:
I am not Marxist. That is your pathetic attempt to libel me, nothing more. You have no proof of this, only your misinterpretations of what I have written. I have written that while differences between ethnicities exist, this does not alone account for the differences in cultural output, nor should it be used to justify the notion of a "pure" or "superior" race.
Your ideas on race are not Catholic, but are from the sources I have already mentioned; western, enlightenment philosophers; Protestants and atheists. It is distressing that you do not recognize this fact.
There is no racial purity anywhere on earth, and there has never been. That is why it is a myth. We do not follow such myths as Catholics.
I only mention what I have read and studied because it seems you regard mixed races as being intellectually inferior as well as culturally and genetically. I also think you need a lesson in humility, in realizing that you are incorrect and misinformed in your notions. You have exalted your notions of race, and I stepped in to humble them, to correct them, and show that these notions should not be embraced by those who call themselves Catholic.
Here is your slice of humble pie. Take it. Eat it. Learn from it. Maybe then, you may know more about Christ and His Universal Church, by leaving the myth and embracing the Truth.
"I only mention what I have read and studied..." I don't care what what you "have read and studied" you overeducated embicile. What I know, I know from EXPERIENCE!! That's why what the hell ever you have read in some Jєωιѕн history book doesn't mean anything whatsoever to me! What you have read doesn't match reality. Pull your nose out of the books and go chill with a bunch of common negroes.
Your experience is filtered through your biased preconceptions. Also, you assume that I have no personal experience of my own. Never assume.
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I didn't know democrats in Germany were Catholic. Maybe they are superior after all?
Ha that shows how little you know about Germany. The German Social Democratic Party is Marxist. It believes democracy will bring about a Marxist revolution.
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You might want to do some research on Marxism, because it is clear you don't actually know what a Marxist looks or sounds like. I hope you can identify ducks better than you can Marxists...
You might want to do a little research yourself since the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia was the work of Jews to kill the Germanic ruling element and put the Slavs and Asiatics in control of Russia. Marxism also was behind the demonising of the Europeans controlling inferior peoples. Marxism has also used religion to support its end goals.
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I couldn't give a rats rear end about someone insulting Germany. They are the birthplace of Lutherans and Protestantism. I am protesting you insulting a specific person for having a very justified opinion.
Then I assume you are either American or British who has anti-German hysteria then. Bavaria was Catholic and Italy was Catholic too (though the Popes had no problem exploiting Italians until the Italians could take no more). In your opinion it's justified but in my opinion he's a mestizo mixed-race who is angry that I call someone like him inferior racially.
Yes it is justified because I have yet to see any example of your "superior German intellect".
All you've managed to prove is Europe has a more evolved culture than Africa because of Catholicism. As for Mexico, economy manipulation and mass industrialization have destroyed it. Much of it caused by American based companies exploiting a developing country, causing it into a stagnation of poverty.
Seriously, it's very easy to judge the poor when you sit in the palace of the king.
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That is because you refuse to see anything that does not coincide with your ideas. I stand with the Church. You are free to stand with Protestantized, "enlightened", atheistic western philosophers if you wish. You are free to believe in racial purity, which is of the flesh only, but I will focus on purity of the soul.
Matthew 23:25
Woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you make clean the outside of the cup and of the dish, but within you are full of rapine and uncleanness.
"I stand with the Church..." Irony of ironies. You also stand with the mortal foe of all religions...Marxism.
"You can stand with blah, blah, blah..." More meaningless words.
Again had you read my posts you would see that even in Europe there is no racial purity in Greece, Italy, France, Germany, Spain, England, etc.
Speaking of hypocrisy I find it funny people ask me to be humble when you mestizo hypocrite always brag about your supposed intellect (and reading books instead of practical experience speaks more against you than for you as that makes you detached) and then you tell me to watch my soul haha. My Christ you quote was also the biggest enemy of the Jews and of Jєωιѕн capitalism. :wink:
I am not Marxist. That is your pathetic attempt to libel me, nothing more. You have no proof of this, only your misinterpretations of what I have written. I have written that while differences between ethnicities exist, this does not alone account for the differences in cultural output, nor should it be used to justify the notion of a "pure" or "superior" race.
Your ideas on race are not Catholic, but are from the sources I have already mentioned; western, enlightenment philosophers; Protestants and atheists. It is distressing that you do not recognize this fact.
There is no racial purity anywhere on earth, and there has never been. That is why it is a myth. We do not follow such myths as Catholics.
I only mention what I have read and studied because it seems you regard mixed races as being intellectually inferior as well as culturally and genetically. I also think you need a lesson in humility, in realizing that you are incorrect and misinformed in your notions. You have exalted your notions of race, and I stepped in to humble them, to correct them, and show that these notions should not be embraced by those who call themselves Catholic.
Here is your slice of humble pie. Take it. Eat it. Learn from it. Maybe then, you may know more about Christ and His Universal Church, by leaving the myth and embracing the Truth.
"I only mention what I have read and studied..." I don't care what what you "have read and studied" you overeducated embicile. What I know, I know from EXPERIENCE!! That's why what the hell ever you have read in some Jєωιѕн history book doesn't mean anything whatsoever to me! What you have read doesn't match reality. Pull your nose out of the books and go chill with a bunch of common negroes.
Imbecile is spelled with an I.
As for the "common negroes" you mention, how many of them grew up in a Catholic world? How many of them know the glory of Christ? Not very many or it would be a very different story.
You're judging an ignorant man because he never received education. Teach the ignorant man and maybe he just might listen.
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Yes it is justified because I have yet to see any example of your "superior German intellect".
All you've managed to prove is Europe has a more evolved culture than Africa because of Catholicism. As for Mexico, economy manipulation and mass industrialization have destroyed it. Much of it caused by American based companies exploiting a developing country, causing it into a stagnation of poverty.
Seriously, it's very easy to judge the poor when you sit in the palace of the king.
Of course not since you already have pre-conditioned notions that obstruct any pondering of what I have written in this thread. I will agree with you that America economically exploited some of Latin America but the point still stands that Mexico is a failure because of racial mixing. The experiment was doomed to start once Spaniards started to take American Indian wives. And I personally do not live in the palace of a king but in a regular home that is actually "below-average" than the house most people live in.
Europe has a more evolved culture because Europeans are higher than Africans. I mean seriously Europeans had to teach Africans to build roads, ditches, etc. when they came to Africa.
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Traditional Guy 20, it is time to show how your notions are compatible with Catholic theology. I want to see evidence that your ideas are Catholic in nature and origin.
So far, what I have seen is not Catholic, but strongly anti-Catholic. You have only offered one bit of evidence, which did not contribute to your notions of racial purity or superiority in any way. I have mentioned many example of your ideological predecessors, and detailed the non-Catholic origins of their ideology.
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I didn't know democrats in Germany were Catholic. Maybe they are superior after all?
Ha that shows how little you know about Germany. The German Social Democratic Party is Marxist. It believes democracy will bring about a Marxist revolution.
That was sarcasm. I know exactly what The German Social Democratic Party is. "Nihil sub sole novum"
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Yes it is justified because I have yet to see any example of your "superior German intellect".
All you've managed to prove is Europe has a more evolved culture than Africa because of Catholicism. As for Mexico, economy manipulation and mass industrialization have destroyed it. Much of it caused by American based companies exploiting a developing country, causing it into a stagnation of poverty.
Seriously, it's very easy to judge the poor when you sit in the palace of the king.
Of course not since you already have pre-conditioned notions that obstruct any pondering of what I have written in this thread. I will agree with you that America economically exploited some of Latin America but the point still stands that Mexico is a failure because of racial mixing. The experiment was doomed to start once Spaniards started to take American Indian wives. And I personally do not live in the palace of a king but in a regular home that is actually "below-average" than the house most people live in.
Europe has a more evolved culture because Europeans are higher than Africans. I mean seriously Europeans had to teach Africans to build roads, ditches, etc. when they came to Africa.
The palace wasn't a house. If you live in America, your definition of poor is very different from a Mexicans definition of poor. If you could actually show me evidence of the racial impurity being the cause of Mexico's problems, I'll shut my mouth and accept the fact that I was wrong.
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Yes it is justified because I have yet to see any example of your "superior German intellect".
All you've managed to prove is Europe has a more evolved culture than Africa because of Catholicism. As for Mexico, economy manipulation and mass industrialization have destroyed it. Much of it caused by American based companies exploiting a developing country, causing it into a stagnation of poverty.
Seriously, it's very easy to judge the poor when you sit in the palace of the king.
Europe has a more evolved culture because Europeans are higher than Africans. I mean seriously Europeans had to teach Africans to build roads, ditches, etc. when they came to Africa.
You mean after 1000 years of Catholicism? Oh gee, I wonder why...
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Traditional Guy 20, it is time to show how your notions are compatible with Catholic theology. I want to see evidence that your ideas are Catholic in nature and origin.
So far, what I have seen is not Catholic, but strongly anti-Catholic. You have only offered one bit of evidence, which did not contribute to your notions of racial purity or superiority in any way. I have mentioned many example of your ideological predecessors, and detailed the non-Catholic origins of their ideology.
Actually I mentioned quite a bit. I mentioned the Spain "blood purity" laws and how the Spanish and Portuguese Empires had a racial caste which put Spanish aristocracy on top, regular Spanish in the upper middle ranks, mixed races in the middle, Indians in the lower-middle ranks and Blacks at the bottom.
However like I said one does not need a religious model here to see the historical and scientific proofs along with pure common sense. Let me put it this way had Europeans never went to Africa or the Americas those people would have never gotten out of their stone temples (speaking specifically of Mexico), timber huts and mud huts and built a superior culture. If Europeans had never gone to Japan even Japan would have never developed such an advanced society.
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The palace wasn't a house. If you live in America, your definition of poor is very different from a Mexicans definition of poor. If you could actually show me evidence of the racial impurity being the cause of Mexico's problems, I'll shut my mouth and accept the fact that I was wrong.
It is a travesty actually that a Germanic like myself should be forced to live in a society where good people are destroyed like America. I posted a picture earlier which showed Mexico and its dirty streets, unassuming architecture, etc.
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Yes it is justified because I have yet to see any example of your "superior German intellect".
All you've managed to prove is Europe has a more evolved culture than Africa because of Catholicism. As for Mexico, economy manipulation and mass industrialization have destroyed it. Much of it caused by American based companies exploiting a developing country, causing it into a stagnation of poverty.
Seriously, it's very easy to judge the poor when you sit in the palace of the king.
Of course not since you already have pre-conditioned notions that obstruct any pondering of what I have written in this thread. I will agree with you that America economically exploited some of Latin America but the point still stands that Mexico is a failure because of racial mixing. The experiment was doomed to start once Spaniards started to take American Indian wives. And I personally do not live in the palace of a king but in a regular home that is actually "below-average" than the house most people live in.
Europe has a more evolved culture because Europeans are higher than Africans. I mean seriously Europeans had to teach Africans to build roads, ditches, etc. when they came to Africa.
Ethnic mixing has been a cornerstone of the Catholic Church since the very beginning. The Church's mission is universal. The Church has embraced the best of all the cultures it has successfully reached. The Church has blessed these mixed ethnic marriages. The cultures of these mixed people have thrived, including the Germanic people, who mingled with the Romans and took with them Roman culture, and, more importantly, the True Faith.
Mexico failed because of liberalism and its errors, not because of racial mixing. The Freemasons moved in long after the "races" mixed. Your biases against mixed ethnicities has clouded your understanding of history.
I sense that your biases have closed your mind to the Truth. Such a closed mind is a sad state of affairs, for when a mind is so closed, the heart also suffers. Faith, hope and charity cannot survive under such conditions.
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You mean after 1000 years of Catholicism? Oh gee, I wonder why...
No I mean 1000 years of having better blood. Anyway I'm heading to bed so I will have to reply more tomorrow.
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You mean after 1000 years of Catholicism? Oh gee, I wonder why...
No I mean 1000 years of having better blood. Anyway I'm heading to bed so I will have to reply more tomorrow.
How do you figure it's blood? Is blood stronger than Catholicism? There is evidence to show that racial mixing is generally a bad idea but all these studies were done on people without Catholicism in a nation without Catholicism.
You're testing one's ability to run when one of the study participants has no legs.
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"Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.
Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.
That means nothing.
The English are also "so white" and yet are the Jew among Germanic peoples.
lol you obviously have no knowledge of what this mestizo has been saying so you have no authority to lecture me on such matters as showing "charity."
You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
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...Mexico is a failure because of racial mixing...
Mexico is a failure for the same reason that Germany and the USA are failures. All those nations have embraced the world, the flesh, and the devil. All those nations have embraced Satan, his ѕуηαgσgυє, and their accomplices.
Mexico, Germany, and the USA are failures because they are not Catholic. They are failures because of belief and behavior. Their failures are not failures of their DNA.
Your racial purity rhetoric evokes the rabbis: http://judaism.is/who-is-human.html
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"Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.
Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.
That means nothing.
The English are also "so white" and yet are the Jew among Germanic peoples.
lol you obviously have no knowledge of what this mestizo has been saying so you have no authority to lecture me on such matters as showing "charity."
You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
:applause:
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"Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.
Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.
That means nothing.
The English are also "so white" and yet are the Jew among Germanic peoples.
lol you obviously have no knowledge of what this mestizo has been saying so you have no authority to lecture me on such matters as showing "charity."
You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
I will say this to Traditional Guy 20 (a misnomer if there ever was one): If racial supremacism is Catholic, then the exhortation of Jesus Christ Himself to "go and make disciples of all nations" is wrong.
By exhibiting racial supremacism like this, you're denying Catholicism because you're implying Christ erred. What would be the point of believing in a God who effectively led his people astray, as your Christ seems to do?
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"Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.
Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.
That means nothing.
The English are also "so white" and yet are the Jew among Germanic peoples.
lol you obviously have no knowledge of what this mestizo has been saying so you have no authority to lecture me on such matters as showing "charity."
You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
I will say this to Traditional Guy 20 (a misnomer if there ever was one): If racial supremacism is Catholic, then the exhortation of Jesus Christ Himself to "go and make disciples of all nations" is wrong.
By exhibiting racial supremacism like this, you're denying Catholicism because you're implying Christ erred. What would be the point of believing in a God who effectively led his people astray, as your Christ seems to do?
This is a completely illogical argument. The fact that everybody has souls and is worthy of certain level dignity for that and should be taught the faith has nothing whatsoever to do with the temporal reality that different races have different sets of strengths and weaknesses, and that those sets of strengths and weaknesses can be scaled as superior and inferior.
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The fact that everybody has souls and is worthy of certain level dignity for that and should be taught the faith has nothing whatsoever to do with the temporal reality that different races have different sets of strengths and weaknesses, and that those sets of strengths and weaknesses can be scaled as superior and inferior.
Yes. I agree.
Genetic physical and mental differences is simply a fact.
Myself, at this point, I think the idea of supremacy--who is supreme--is a very subjective concept.
For example, I do not think that Northern Europeans are supreme when it comes to surviving in a natural equatorial environment.
It is clear that I am not a supremacist.
Although, if we want to explore the idea in this discussion, we could ask the question: Which ethnicity is the most supreme when it comes to living in a 21st Century technological world? Which ethnicity is the best adapted to that kind of lifestyle?
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"Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.
Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.
That means nothing.
The English are also "so white" and yet are the Jew among Germanic peoples.
lol you obviously have no knowledge of what this mestizo has been saying so you have no authority to lecture me on such matters as showing "charity."
You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
I will say this to Traditional Guy 20 (a misnomer if there ever was one): If racial supremacism is Catholic, then the exhortation of Jesus Christ Himself to "go and make disciples of all nations" is wrong.
By exhibiting racial supremacism like this, you're denying Catholicism because you're implying Christ erred. What would be the point of believing in a God who effectively led his people astray, as your Christ seems to do?
This is a completely illogical argument. The fact that everybody has souls and is worthy of certain level dignity for that and should be taught the faith has nothing whatsoever to do with the temporal reality that different races have different sets of strengths and weaknesses, and that those sets of strengths and weaknesses can be scaled as superior and inferior.
Ethnic differences are a few factors in the differences in cultural ability, though these differences are not the only factors to conside, nor are they the primary factors.
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Which ethnicity is the most supreme when it comes to living in a 21st Century technological world? Which ethnicity is the best adapted to that kind of lifestyle?
None of us are. I'm not a Luddite, but the "21st Century technological lifestyle" as it is playing out is fundamentally anti-social and atomized. It must be re-organized on a more organic, filial and pro-social basis. That means raising social trust, which means slowly returning to monocultural, monoracial communities. Anti-racist militants just don't grasp or don't care that their virus attacks communal life and the sense of duty, abets hedonistic and selfish tendencies, and puts more souls on the unhappy path to Hell. They reject human nature, in this respect at least.
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Which ethnicity is the most supreme when it comes to living in a 21st Century technological world? Which ethnicity is the best adapted to that kind of lifestyle?
None of us are. I'm not a Luddite, but the "21st Century technological lifestyle" as it is playing out is fundamentally anti-social and atomized. It must be re-organized on a more organic, filial and pro-social basis. That means raising social trust, which means slowly returning to monocultural, monoracial communities. Anti-racist militants just don't grasp or don't care that their virus attacks communal life and the sense of duty, abets hedonistic and selfish tendencies, and puts more souls on the unhappy path to Hell. They reject human nature, in this respect at least.
Your response raises a further interesting question:
Is it possible to have a monocultural, trusting, dutiful, communal community--is it possible to have this with people of different ethnicities?
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Which ethnicity is the most supreme when it comes to living in a 21st Century technological world? Which ethnicity is the best adapted to that kind of lifestyle?
None of us are. I'm not a Luddite, but the "21st Century technological lifestyle" as it is playing out is fundamentally anti-social and atomized. It must be re-organized on a more organic, filial and pro-social basis. That means raising social trust, which means slowly returning to monocultural, monoracial communities. Anti-racist militants just don't grasp or don't care that their virus attacks communal life and the sense of duty, abets hedonistic and selfish tendencies, and puts more souls on the unhappy path to Hell. They reject human nature, in this respect at least.
Your response raises a further interesting question:
Is it possible to have a monocultural, trusting, dutiful, communal community--is it possible to have this with people of different ethnicities?
Physical differences erode social trust. That's an iron law. Beneath a certain threshold, and if there are shared beliefs, it can be managed.
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"Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
You are doing the same. You arrogate to yourself the authority to disqualify a discernibly charitable and patient Catholic man, discounting his excellent sensus catholicus simply because he does not pass your racial purity test.
Remember that I am the guy who is so white that I can get a sunburn at nighttime.
That means nothing.
The English are also "so white" and yet are the Jew among Germanic peoples.
lol you obviously have no knowledge of what this mestizo has been saying so you have no authority to lecture me on such matters as showing "charity."
You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
I will say this to Traditional Guy 20 (a misnomer if there ever was one): If racial supremacism is Catholic, then the exhortation of Jesus Christ Himself to "go and make disciples of all nations" is wrong.
By exhibiting racial supremacism like this, you're denying Catholicism because you're implying Christ erred. What would be the point of believing in a God who effectively led his people astray, as your Christ seems to do?
This is a completely illogical argument. The fact that everybody has souls and is worthy of certain level dignity for that and should be taught the faith has nothing whatsoever to do with the temporal reality that different races have different sets of strengths and weaknesses, and that those sets of strengths and weaknesses can be scaled as superior and inferior.
I don't think anyone is denying that. But to suggest that their is one race superior than all others is simply wrong.
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I will say this to Traditional Guy 20 (a misnomer if there ever was one): If racial supremacism is Catholic, then the exhortation of Jesus Christ Himself to "go and make disciples of all nations" is wrong.
By exhibiting racial supremacism like this, you're denying Catholicism because you're implying Christ erred. What would be the point of believing in a God who effectively led his people astray, as your Christ seems to do?
You are the same one who says that Jews should be welcomed with open arms so your opinion is worthless in my estimation.
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You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
A "Catholic" man hahaha. I discount what he says because science and rationalism has disproved everything he has talked about back in the 1930's and 40's so you can keep your superstition to yourself.
No actually I am the exact opposite of the Jews. The Jews use the Americans, British, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, etc. to pervert the world while I myself pick allies that the Jews hate like Iranians, Arabs, Japanese, Germans, etc. The Jews even know the truth of racial mixing better than "white people" do which is why we will be extinct within 100 years if less.
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How do you figure it's blood? Is blood stronger than Catholicism? There is evidence to show that racial mixing is generally a bad idea but all these studies were done on people without Catholicism in a nation without Catholicism.
You're testing one's ability to run when one of the study participants has no legs.
That evidence clearly shows the products (on average anyway) of racial mixing are weaker and more stupid than the higher-grade parent and smarter than the lower-grade parent which makes a hybrid that dooms the stronger race to extinction.
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Mexico is a failure for the same reason that Germany and the USA are failures. All those nations have embraced the world, the flesh, and the devil. All those nations have embraced Satan, his ѕуηαgσgυє, and their accomplices.
Mexico, Germany, and the USA are failures because they are not Catholic. They are failures because of belief and behavior. Their failures are not failures of their DNA.
Your racial purity rhetoric evokes the rabbis: http://judaism.is/who-is-human.html
Germany is actually doing much better than America however I will admit Germany is at a low-point in its history (since America racially defiles German women with its Negro soldiers and doesn't allow Germany a standing army of more than a certain number). And I find it funny you say I think Jєωιѕн since no one has ever said that to me since they know my opinion of the lowlifes of mankind.
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You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
A "Catholic" man hahaha. I discount what he says because science and rationalism has disproved everything he has talked about back in the 1930's and 40's so you can keep your superstition to yourself.
No actually I am the exact opposite of the Jews. The Jews use the Americans, British, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, etc. to pervert the world while I myself pick allies that the Jews hate like Iranians, Arabs, Japanese, Germans, etc. The Jews even know the truth of racial mixing better than "white people" do which is why we will be extinct within 100 years if less.
You discount what I say because you must, on order to retain your biases. The science you hold up so highly is based off the theories of anti-Catholic western philosophers. Their methods were sloppy, biased and politically driven, especially in Germany of the 1930s and 1940s.
Your prediction for the world clearly illustrates that you are too concerned with the world and the flesh.
There is no pure race, no master race. It is a demonic myth. You need to go to a priest and ask for an exorcism, for the devil has you in his grasp. Your ideas are based on his handiwork, and is not of Christ.
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You discount what I say because you must, on order to retain your biases. The science you hold up so highly is based off the theories of anti-Catholic western philosophers. Their methods were sloppy, biased and politically driven, especially in Germany of the 1930s and 1940s.
Your prediction for the world clearly illustrates that you are too concerned with the world and the flesh.
There is no pure race, no master race. It is a demonic myth. You need to go to a priest and ask for an exorcism, for the devil has you in his grasp. Your ideas are based on his handiwork, and is not of Christ.
It seems God is on my side since I am still here. ;P
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How do you figure it's blood? Is blood stronger than Catholicism? There is evidence to show that racial mixing is generally a bad idea but all these studies were done on people without Catholicism in a nation without Catholicism.
You're testing one's ability to run when one of the study participants has no legs.
That evidence clearly shows the products (on average anyway) of racial mixing are weaker and more stupid than the higher-grade parent and smarter than the lower-grade parent which makes a hybrid that dooms the stronger race to extinction.
The mixing of the Romans and the Germanic people resulted in marked improvements for the Germans. If the Germanic people are superior to the Romans, the opposite would be true.
There are many factors other than genetics to determine cultural ability. You obsess over one factor, which invalidates your argument.
Go speak to your spiritual advisor about your ideas. Seek help from a traditional Catholic priest. Stay close to the teaching of Holy Mother Church. Your attachment to enlightenment inspired science will cause great harm to your soul.
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The mixing of the Romans and the Germanic people resulted in marked improvements for the Germans. If the Germanic people are superior to the Romans, the opposite would be true.
There are many factors other than genetics to determine cultural ability. You obsess over one factor, which invalidates your argument.
Go speak to your spiritual advisor about your ideas. Seek help from a traditional Catholic priest. Stay close to the teaching of Holy Mother Church. Your attachment to enlightenment inspired science will cause great harm to your soul.
The Roman Empire was already degenerate by the time the Germanic tribes invaded though I admit the Romans taught military discipline and order to the Germanic tribes.
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The mixing of the Romans and the Germanic people resulted in marked improvements for the Germans. If the Germanic people are superior to the Romans, the opposite would be true.
There are many factors other than genetics to determine cultural ability. You obsess over one factor, which invalidates your argument.
Go speak to your spiritual advisor about your ideas. Seek help from a traditional Catholic priest. Stay close to the teaching of Holy Mother Church. Your attachment to enlightenment inspired science will cause great harm to your soul.
The Roman Empire was already degenerate by the time the Germanic tribes invaded though I admit the Romans taught military discipline and order to the Germanic tribes.
This helps prove my point. If all you consider is genetics in determining cultural ability, your findings will not reflect reality. Genetics alone do not determine cultural ability. The mixing of the races has not caused this supposed degeneration of society. It is the sins of mankind, our turning away from God, that has caused so much misery, in addition to other reasons.
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This helps prove my point. If all you consider is genetics in determining cultural ability, your findings will not reflect reality. Genetics alone do not determine cultural ability. The mixing of the races has not caused this supposed degeneration of society. It is the sins of mankind, our turning away from God, that has caused so much misery, in addition to other reasons.
Not really. The Romans and Germanic tribes were not genetically far off compared to say Africans or Arabs to Romans. The Germanic tribes brought down the Roman Empire since Rome was past its glory days and was inferior in some respects compared to say the days of Augustus.
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This helps prove my point. If all you consider is genetics in determining cultural ability, your findings will not reflect reality. Genetics alone do not determine cultural ability. The mixing of the races has not caused this supposed degeneration of society. It is the sins of mankind, our turning away from God, that has caused so much misery, in addition to other reasons.
Not really. The Romans and Germanic tribes were not genetically far off compared to say Africans or Arabs to Romans. The Germanic tribes brought down the Roman Empire since Rome was past its glory days and was inferior in some respects compared to say the days of Augustus.
The idea is that if genetics alone determined cultural ability, and if the Germanic people are genetically superior, then history would different. There would have been a German Empire, not a Roman Empire. Culture is not based on genetics, but on many factors, including availability of resources, climate, other cultural forces, etc.
Let's say you had three exact copies of one man, and placed each one in different areas. One would get a location with an abundance of resources, another with some, and another with few. Even though the men are the same, their lives would differ.
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You call a Catholic man a "mutt" and you smugly discount what he says simply because he does not qualify for your seal of racial purity.
You are doing exactly what the "Jews" do. Like you, "Jews" insist that facts may only come from sources that they have vetted.
Your name-calling is not Catholic.
Your racial supremacism is not Catholic.
A "Catholic" man hahaha. I discount what he says because science and rationalism has disproved everything he has talked about back in the 1930's and 40's so you can keep your superstition to yourself.
No actually I am the exact opposite of the Jews. The Jews use the Americans, British, Blacks, Chinese, Indians, etc. to pervert the world while I myself pick allies that the Jews hate like Iranians, Arabs, Japanese, Germans, etc. The Jews even know the truth of racial mixing better than "white people" do which is why we will be extinct within 100 years if less.
Your racial supremacist beliefs are quite analogous to the Jews' beliefs, just opposite sides of the same coin.
By your non-Catholic standards, a Castro Street fag with the latest big screen тαℓмυdvision is "superior" to St. Anthony of the Desert who lived in a cave. Go figure.