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Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:12:07 AM »

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Your question does not change the fact that race as a science is influenced by non-Catholic and anti-Catholic ideology, and is not based on the teaching of Holy Mother Church.

It's a yes or no question. Are Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic peoples or Japan?

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Every culture has something of value to offer. Some cultures have a greater impact on history than others. Many factors are involved in a culture's historical impact and longevity. Religion makes a greater impact on the benefits of a given culture than does "race". A culture that is firmly rooted in the Catholic Church is superior to that of any other culture.

No, no, no. You praised Egypt, the Middle East, Greece and Rome for cultural achievements and those people were not religious Catholics.

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A good and holy Catholic of mixed ethnicity is superior to a supposedly "racially pure" Atheist or agnostic. The Catholic culture of mixed ethnic origin is superior to that of a culture of "racially pure" heretics and pagans. Therefore, it is entirely possible for any given African nation to be culturally superior to any European nation.

I will admit that atheists are not good people but let me say that it is Islam that will eventually win the masses in Asia and Africa over not Catholicism. However in Latin America, which are racially mixed they still revert back to their old Indian religions and have more love for it than a "European religion." That shows you how powerful race is.

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The problem with American culture is not racial or ethnic mixing, but the loss of the faith. This is where the true battle must be fought. Race is a diversion from the true fight, which is a fight for the salvation of souls.

Racial mixing is a problem in America since that has let the Jews rule America and has lead to a sick culture that is half-Jєωιѕн the other half Negro. Now there are other problems in America such as being a capitalist society and an infantile culture, etc. but race does predetermine how well a society acts.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #46 on:** February 09, 2016, 11:00:21 AM »

From Traditional Guy 20: It's a yes or no question. Are Blacks superior in cultural ability to Germanic peoples or Japan?

My response: They could be, but there are many factors to consider when looking at cultural ability, not just race or genetics.

From Traditional Guy 20: No, no, no. You praised Egypt, the Middle East, Greece and Rome for cultural achievements and those people were not religious Catholics.

My response: I praised these various cultures, for they paved the way for the possibility of the Catholic culture, and the spread of the Church. Their accomplishments found their perfection through the Church. It is the denial of the Church's true role in society that has caused the problems in society today, not the mixing of the "races".

Haydn was Austrian. Austria was strong in the Faith. Bach, who may have been Catholic, was influenced by the power and majesty of the Church, and though Lutheranism was strong in Germany, the influence of the Catholic Church was still strong, and the Church's impact on Germanic culture was still prevalent.

From Traditional Guy 20: I will admit that atheists are not good people but let me say that it is Islam that will eventually win the masses in Asia and Africa over not Catholicism. However in Latin America, which are racially mixed they still revert back to their old Indian religions and have more love for it than a "European religion." That shows you how powerful race is.

My Response: Islam nearly conquered the whole world. It may try to do so again. That is not new.

The reversion of some Latin Americans to old ways is not caused by genetics or "race". It is caused by social change, the infusion of liberal notions of race and by external forces who desire the destruction of any sort of Catholic culture. This return to primitive ways is manufactured by the liberal and modernist onslaught.

An example of this cultural manipulation is seen in higher education, especially in the Americas. The notion is that the Latinos were superior before the arrival of the "Europeans," and that they should embrace their superiority through a removal of outside cultural and religious influence. La Raza and "black lives matters" are examples of this modernist manipulation.

From Traditional Guy 20: Racial mixing is a problem in America since that has let the Jews rule America and has lead to a sick culture that is half-Jєωιѕн the other half Negro. Now there are other problems in America such as being a capitalist society and an infantile culture, etc. but race does predetermine how well a society acts.

My Response: Those are unfounded fears meant to cause division. The United states is not anywhere near half-Jєωιѕн and half-negro. The American culture may be sick, but that is because of the decrease of the Church's influence on society. Racial mixing has not led to a degenerate society; the obsession with racial purity, however, has caused much destruction and division. The modernist and liberal agenda to destroy the Church has caused this degeneration of society, and racial "purity" is part of that equation.

South America and Mexico are good examples of ethnic mixing, as the cultures were thriving and producing many holy souls. South America and Mexico also a good example of the damage done by anti-Catholics. Gabriel Garcia Moreno was on track to turn Ecuador into an outstanding Catholic culture (also one of mixed-ethnic origins), until Freemasonic traitors ended this. The Cristeros fought this liberal onslaught with their lives. These warriors for Christ were of mixed ethnic origin; French, Spanish, native and others.

The Catholic Church herself is the best example of ethnic mixing as being beneficial. The Church is universal, and has used the best of every culture that has embraced the faith. The Church has never been a "pure race only" society, and any such notion of a "pure or superior race" does not conform to the teaching of the Church.

You have been poisoned by the notions of Protestant and enlightenment era anti-Catholics, such as Voltaire, Meiners, Darwin and others.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #47 on:** February 09, 2016, 11:14:46 AM »

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You have been poisoned by the notions of Protestant and enlightenment era anti-Catholics, such as Voltaire, Meiners, Darwin and others.

If we're going to make baseless accusations I will make accusations myself. You have been poisoned by Jєωιѕн racial theory like Boaz that says there is no difference between (Gentile) races and that race is a social construct. Ha Mexico and South America (besides maybe Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay) have an inferior culture to other nations in the world although I do think they would be useful for trade. :wink:

"Haydn was Austrian."

Uh Austria is racially Germanic and even racially German.

"Those cultures paved the way for Catholicism..."

Uh Egypt and the Middle East never paved the way for Catholicism. The Islamic Empire only paved the way for more learning in Europe really. Asian cultures like Japan and China never had anything to do with Catholicism and still have a culture is on the same level as other culture-creators like in Europe and still are superior to the sub-Sahara.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #48 on:** February 09, 2016, 11:32:55 AM »

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You have been poisoned by the notions of Protestant and enlightenment era anti-Catholics, such as Voltaire, Meiners, Darwin and others.

If we're going to make baseless accusations I will make accusations myself. You have been poisoned by Jєωιѕн racial theory like Boaz that says there is no difference between (Gentile) races and that race is a social construct. Ha Mexico and South America (besides maybe Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay) have an inferior culture to other nations in the world although I do think they would be useful for trade. :wink:

"Haydn was Austrian."

Uh Austria is racially Germanic and even racially German.

"Those cultures paved the way for Catholicism..."

Uh Egypt and the Middle East never paved the way for Catholicism. The Islamic Empire only paved the way for more learning in Europe really. Asian cultures like Japan and China never had anything to do with Catholicism and still have a culture is on the same level as other culture-creators like in Europe and still are superior to the sub-Sahara.

I never said that there is not difference between ethnicities. I have repeatedly said that there are differences between ethnicities, but that these differences do not alone account for the differences in cultural ability. You, on the other hand, have espoused enlightenment-era ideals, and you continue to do so. Deny that if you must, but that does not change this fact.

One can say that the main reason that the Germanic cultures produced what they did was because of the influence of the Church. Look at the degeneration of the Germanic and western cultures now that the influence of the Church has diminished, and look at the barbaric Germanic tribes before the influence of the Church. No, the Church has given much to the Germanic and western cultures. During the early years, the Church was from Rome, from Jerusalem and from surrounding areas. It was not a racially pure Church, nor has the Church ever been or sought out racial purity.

Asian cultures are not racially pure cultures, as each has drawn from their neighbors their cultural and genetic identities. Racial purity is a fanciful myth, and all the examples of great cultures and civilizations can prove this.

I doubt you know anything about the cultures of South America and Mexico, and that you are totally ignorant on the many cultures of Africa.

Your comment on Egypt and the middle-east are not supported by history. God had used the best of these ancient cultures for the good of His Church. You need to hit the history books again, and perhaps do more research on the various cultures of the world before condemning then in ignorance as you have done so.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #49 on:** February 09, 2016, 07:51:00 PM »

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I never said that there is not difference between ethnicities. I have repeatedly said that there are differences between ethnicities, but that these differences do not alone account for the differences in cultural ability. You, on the other hand, have espoused enlightenment-era ideals, and you continue to do so. Deny that if you must, but that does not change this fact.

One can say that the main reason that the Germanic cultures produced what they did was because of the influence of the Church. Look at the degeneration of the Germanic and western cultures now that the influence of the Church has diminished, and look at the barbaric Germanic tribes before the influence of the Church. No, the Church has given much to the Germanic and western cultures. During the early years, the Church was from Rome, from Jerusalem and from surrounding areas. It was not a racially pure Church, nor has the Church ever been or sought out racial purity.

Asian cultures are not racially pure cultures, as each has drawn from their neighbors their cultural and genetic identities. Racial purity is a fanciful myth, and all the examples of great cultures and civilizations can prove this.

I doubt you know anything about the cultures of South America and Mexico, and that you are totally ignorant on the many cultures of Africa.

Your comment on Egypt and the middle-east are not supported by history. God had used the best of these ancient cultures for the good of His Church. You need to hit the history books again, and perhaps do more research on the various cultures of the world before condemning then in ignorance as you have done so.

Hugo Chavez I will ask yet again. Are Blacks superior in culture to Germanic peoples or the Japanese?

You are correct that not all Asian cultures are racially pure. For instance places like Vietnam, Laos, Mongolia, the South Sea Islands, etc. have about the same cultural level as Latin America. However the Hans Chinese and the Yamato in Japan are the races that built both countries and in that sense the Japanese in particular are similar in quality to Germanic blood.

The Hamites that built Egypt and the Semites in the Middle East are inferior to Mediterranean peoples and Germanic peoples (and Chinese and Japanese) but superior to mixed races, Negroes, Mongoloids and Black Australians so of course the Arabs built a better civilisation in the Middle East and Egyptians in Egypt.

I doubt you know anything about Africa and Blacks and about Latin American culture mestizo mutt. We already tried to convert people that lack the same culture-creating ability and look how Mexico turned out...

OHCA · « **Reply #50 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:39:07 PM »

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I never said that there is not difference between ethnicities. I have repeatedly said that there are differences between ethnicities, but that these differences do not alone account for the differences in cultural ability. You, on the other hand, have espoused enlightenment-era ideals, and you continue to do so. Deny that if you must, but that does not change this fact.

One can say that the main reason that the Germanic cultures produced what they did was because of the influence of the Church. Look at the degeneration of the Germanic and western cultures now that the influence of the Church has diminished, and look at the barbaric Germanic tribes before the influence of the Church. No, the Church has given much to the Germanic and western cultures. During the early years, the Church was from Rome, from Jerusalem and from surrounding areas. It was not a racially pure Church, nor has the Church ever been or sought out racial purity.

Asian cultures are not racially pure cultures, as each has drawn from their neighbors their cultural and genetic identities. Racial purity is a fanciful myth, and all the examples of great cultures and civilizations can prove this.

I doubt you know anything about the cultures of South America and Mexico, and that you are totally ignorant on the many cultures of Africa.

Your comment on Egypt and the middle-east are not supported by history. God had used the best of these ancient cultures for the good of His Church. You need to hit the history books again, and perhaps do more research on the various cultures of the world before condemning then in ignorance as you have done so.

Hugo Chavez I will ask yet again. Are Blacks superior in culture to Germanic peoples or the Japanese?

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They each have something different to offer.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #51 on:** February 09, 2016, 10:52:21 PM »

From Traditional Guy 20: Hugo Chavez I will ask yet again. Are Blacks superior in culture to Germanic peoples or the Japanese?

My Response: I am not Hugo Chavez.

This question cannot be given a yes or no answer, as many important factors must be taken into account.

If your question were rewritten into the following (or similar):

Are there any African cultures that could match the historical impact, reach or popularity of the cultural output of the Germanic regions of the 15th to the 19th centuries (or thereabouts)?

… The the question may be a little easier to answer. I cannot think of any particular African-based culture of the last few centuries that could compete with the cultural output of the Germanic regions of the given period.

I can think of many other cultures that can compete and even surpass the cultural output of the Germanic regions of the last 100+ years. So far, you have mentioned Haydn and Bach to extol the superiority of Germanic culture. Both have been dead for hundreds of years. Germany had a good run at one time, and produced many good works of art and architecture, among other things.

If Bach and Haydn are examples of racial and cultural superiority of the Germanic people, then where is Germany's current Bach? Will the new Haydn please stand?

This is why I stand by my assertion that there are MANY more factors that need to be considered, and that “race” is not one of the major factors.

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From Traditional Guy 20: You are correct that not all Asian cultures are racially pure. For instance places like Vietnam, Laos, Mongolia, the South Sea Islands, etc. have about the same cultural level as Latin America. However the Hans Chinese and the Yamato in Japan are the races that built both countries and in that sense the Japanese in particular are similar in quality to Germanic blood.

My Response: Actually, you are incorrect on this matter as well. Japan has never been a “pure race”. The Yamato, which began as hunter-gatherers, really took off once they intermingled with the Yayoi. This intermingling and ethnic mixing started Japan's cultural ascension.

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From Traditional Guy 20: The Hamites that built Egypt and the Semites in the Middle East are inferior to Mediterranean peoples and Germanic peoples (and Chinese and Japanese) but superior to mixed races, Negroes, Mongoloids and Black Australians so of course the Arabs built a better civilisation in the Middle East and Egyptians in Egypt.

My Response: Most of this is purely subjective, and not based on objective truth.

The Romans, Greeks and Egyptians during their golden ages were way more advanced than the pre-Christian Germanic tribes, by the way. This so-called “German superiority” owes a great deal to the Romans, Greeks and Egyptians who came before, and whose cultures helped form what we now know as Germanic culture. Without these cultures, Germany could be nothing more than a collection of scattered and divided tribes, similar to the various tribes and cultures of parts of Africa. Germanic culture would not have had the same impact on world history.

Most of all, Germanic culture owes a debt of gratitude to the Catholic Church. I have covered some of this in previous posts.

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From Traditional Guy 20: I doubt you know anything about Africa and Blacks and about Latin American culture mestizo mutt. We already tried to convert people that lack the same culture-creating ability and look how Mexico turned out...

My Response: You have displayed your lack of knowledge time and again. I have studied cultural anthropology and world history. I also read these two subjects for fun, during my off-time.

Mexico and South America were turning out quite well, until the work of the Church was undermined by Protestants, Jews and other enemies of the Church. Take a look at Ecuador under Moreno. Take a look at the work of the missionaries in the 15th and 16th centuries. There are plenty more examples.

It seems that the best you can do is try to insult my ethnic background. I take comfort in knowing that I actually know something about world cultures. I laugh at your outdated, comically-stereotypical understanding of world cultures. It is as though you learned about Africa from watching old Tarzan films.

Racial purity is a myth. It is a bad game, in which the only winning move is not to play.

How about a nice game of chess?

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #52 on:** February 10, 2016, 02:43:32 AM »

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How about a nice game of chess?

1 d4

Your move.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #53 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:06:52 PM »

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No. I will not stay out of it, nor does my "mixed ethnicity distort or pervert my perspective. [sic]

Of course you don't recognize it. But you get all emotional and whiny about this topic the same as you do about Pfeifferville, another topic in which you are too emotionally invested to discuss rationally.

I am so white that a walk across the lawn will earn a sunburn... and I agree with St. Paul:
There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

Sure there are racial and cultural differences, but there is no room in the Church for racial supremacism.

Further, I am seeing some truly ignorant assertions, e.g., the claim that Jews are "semitic." Scroll down to the research cited in the section labeled "Semites or Khazars—Who cares?": http://judaism.is/covenants.html

A few pages into this thread and I wager it is not worth my time to read the rest.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:23:47 PM »

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It seems that the best you can do is try to insult my ethnic background. I take comfort in knowing that I actually know something about world cultures. I laugh at your outdated, comically-stereotypical understanding of world cultures. It is as though you learned about Africa from watching old Tarzan films.

Racial purity is a myth. It is a bad game, in which the only winning move is not to play.

How about a nice game of chess?

If it makes you feel any better please destroy America as quickly as possible by taking it over. :smile: "I take comfort...in knowing that I actually know about...culture." From a modern perspective you do which makes you a brainwashed mestizo mutt and a stupid Goy who serves the Jews' interests. However traditionally true science (science before 1940 when it comes to biology) would prove me correct in saying that the lighter your skin color, the higher you are on a racial scale, while the darker your skin color the lower you are.

"Where is Germany's Bach...Haydn..." As I said I am no Marxist so I believe in responsibility and performance. By that standard a man of that caliber only comes once in a blue moon.

"This response is purely subjective..."

Just look at the culture provided by certain races and you can see a natural progressing hierarchy:

Black Australians:

Equatorial Negroes:

Mongoloid:

Mestizo:

Eurasian:

Mulatto:

Afro-Asian:

Zambo:

Semites:

Hamites:

Mediterraneans:

Chinese:

Japanese:

Germanic:

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:28:55 PM »

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I am so white that a walk across the lawn will earn a sunburn... and I agree with St. Paul:
There is neither Jew nor Greek: there is neither bond nor free: there is neither male nor female. For you are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:28

Sure there are racial and cultural differences, but there is no room in the Church for racial supremacism.

Further, I am seeing some truly ignorant assertions, e.g., the claim that Jews are "semitic." Scroll down to the research cited in the section labeled "Semites or Khazars—Who cares?": http://judaism.is/covenants.html

A few pages into this thread and I wager it is not worth my time to read the rest.

Racial and cultural differences mean certain races have more cultural accomplishments than others.

Jews are racially Semitic originally although there have been mixtures in their blood, especially European mixtures. Jews are originally from Palestine/Syria so yes their original blood is Semitic just like the Arabs although they do have Khazar mixing. It is the Jews' racial nature of a dangerous intelligence matching European peoples that makes them so dangerous.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #56 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:54:05 PM »

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Racial and cultural differences mean certain races have more cultural accomplishments than others.

Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?

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Jews are racially Semitic originally although there have been mixtures in their blood, especially European mixtures. Jews are originally from Palestine/Syria so yes their original blood is Semitic just like the Arabs although they do have Khazar mixing. It is the Jews' racial nature of a dangerous intelligence matching European peoples that makes them so dangerous.

Their beliefs and behavior, like yours and mine, are a matter of free will, not DNA.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 10, 2016, 04:58:17 PM »

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Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?

They accomplish beautiful things on Earth. That is like saying that the Romans should have never built the Colosseum or the Pantheon since they were going to go to Elysium anyway.

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Their beliefs and behavior, like yours and mine, are a matter of free will, not DNA.

The beliefs and behaviors of those people make them lesser than you and I. Their racial nature is an outflow of their religious doctrine which means they wish to racially lower a race higher than themselves so they can have an empire of stupid Goy as slaves.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #58 on:** February 10, 2016, 05:12:39 PM »

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Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?

They accomplish beautiful things on Earth. That is like saying that the Romans should have never built the Colosseum or the Pantheon since they were going to go to Elysium anyway....

No, that is a straw man of your own construct. I am simply putting your hierarchy of "accomplishment" in Catholic perspective: "Neither Jew nor Greek... all one IN Christ Jesus."

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Their beliefs and behavior, like yours and mine, are a matter of free will, not DNA.

The beliefs and behaviors of those people make them lesser than you and I. Their racial nature is an outflow of their religious doctrine which means they wish to racially lower a race higher than themselves so they can have an empire of stupid Goy as slaves.

They, like you, are obsessed with race and ethnicity, things we did not choose for ourselves. I think it is more productive to focus on the matters we choose, belief and behavior.

OHCA · « **Reply #59 on:** February 10, 2016, 05:29:39 PM »

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Racial and cultural differences mean certain races have more cultural accomplishments than others.

Who cares? Do cultural accomplishments gain Heaven?

I care about myself and my family not encountering a negroe's cultural accomplishment known as the "shank" in a dark alley. I care about my family not being exposed to their cultural "accomplishments" in music and fashion as well.

Also, as demonstrated by the recent Super Bowl, their limited sense of decorum, sportsmanship, etc., neither. Basically not anything about their method of attempting to navigate civilization and blend in as human beings.

I know there are some decent human beings, and some good moral Catholics among them. But there is, unfortunately, a large percentage who behave like savages from the streets to the limelights.