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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2013, 12:16:53 PM »
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    This duck hunt guy teaches better than the pope.


    And as you know that is not even a joke.  Comedians could make good money off this "it's funny because its true situation".  

     
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    « Reply #16 on: December 20, 2013, 12:27:24 PM »
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    I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


    This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

    Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

    Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

    Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jew) was in charge of Disney?

    Have people heard of "gαy Day" over at Disneyland?

    A constant barrage of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

    I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

    I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



    How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

    There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

    In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.


    Maybe she was sick or she had a hospitalized child that needed her there 24/7? Be grateful you have health or a spouse and do not to need to depend on others for child care at times.  Children are safer with a Christian grandma who doesn't understand the harm with Cinderella than some other alternatives. I agree children should not be exposed to Disney but it's far reaching to think they are just there for a social visit.


    Of course, if it is unavoidable you go with the best alternative.  But what I say stands if it is not unavoidable.  Many traditional Catholics compromise with the world.  Many uninstructed good-willed Catholics compromise with the world without even realizing it.   It is important to have the salvation of your children at the forefront of your every thought word and action.  The repercussions are infinite.


    True but it's making big jumps coming from PFT post that the children were at grandmas.


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    « Reply #17 on: December 20, 2013, 12:36:40 PM »
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  • I saw a clip where the main players -- Phil, Kay, their son (Willy?) -- were discussing religion and the Duck Dynasty show. While Phil clearly wasn't crazy about the idea, their approach was that they would refrain from certain phrases / remarks (which A&E edited out anyhow) in favor of keeping their show on the air. They saw the show as an entry point and said if viewers were interested in hearing more about their faith, they'd go online or buy one of their books, etc to find out more.

    So, they willingly allowed phrases like "in God's name..." to be edited out of the show, but considered it a strategy of sorts to keep their access to such a large audience.

    I wonder if Phil decided that they were popular enough now that he could just tell it like it is and let the chips fall where they may. I'm sure there's someone out there who will keep their show on the air at this point considering how hugely popular it is.

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    « Reply #18 on: December 20, 2013, 01:28:13 PM »
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    I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


    This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

    Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

    Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

    Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jew) was in charge of Disney?

    Have people heard of "gαy Day" over at Disneyland?

    A constant barrage of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

    I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

    I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



    How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

    There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

    In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.


    The girls didn't tell me until years later because they were told not to. I actually just recently found out about this, and they weren't living there, and we were not living with her. She would have them over for various reasons to visit grandma's house.

    They had told me that they watched this or that movie over there, and one time they had told me it was a Disney movie, and I had it out with her. I had a lengthy conversation about it with her, and how awful it was, and I thought it sunk in at that time. She said she wouldn't show them that stuff anymore, and I thought that was the end of it, but evidently it wasn't.

    It's a long story about my mother in law, but the general jist of this revolves around one thing: mental illness that I wasn't aware of right away. After becoming aware of it, the girls didn't go over there very much, except for rosary club meetings or to help with some necessity.

    I want to also stress that my mother in law went to daily Mass with them when it was available during the times they had to be over there, and that I mentioned that she's a traditional Catholic, so at first I didn't think I had much to worry about with them going over there aside from the quirkiness of an aged grandmother.
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    « Reply #19 on: December 20, 2013, 02:01:22 PM »
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  • PFT,

    I don't think you need to explain yourself to your critics regarding your home life.  From your posts, it is obvious to me that you are a good Catholic mother, who loves your children, and you are reasonably acting to shield them from dangers to their Faith.

    Catholic parenting is very complex in today's world.  There are black and white issues, but many others that are gray areas that you have to use your best judgment.  You clearly used good judgment and acted reasonably.  
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    « Reply #20 on: December 20, 2013, 03:47:54 PM »
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  •  I recently got a hunting dog and will find myself in need of some duck calls.  So, now, when I need some, I will buy them from this family.  I will feel good about it.  

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    This duck hunt guy teaches better than the pope.


    And the duck guy doesn't need to be 'interpreted'.  

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    « Reply #21 on: December 20, 2013, 06:30:47 PM »
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  • Liberals definition of tolerance:


    Be kind to one another even if you disagree;  allowing the conservatives to be seen  but not heard.  If they dare voice their opinion, quickly initiate the exception to the rule of kindness.  
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    « Reply #22 on: December 20, 2013, 07:23:26 PM »
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    I don't watch TV but how sad is it that the truth is coming from "Hollywood"and not clergy! I hear NO other clergy calling out sodomy as a perversion or proper teaching about it.


    Isn't that the truth
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    « Reply #23 on: December 20, 2013, 07:25:53 PM »
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    Lol
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    « Reply #24 on: December 20, 2013, 07:30:33 PM »
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  • Don't get too excited usually so called Christians also hate Catholics.  
    I forget what I was looking up but I ended up on Protestant site and they were ripping apart the Catholic Church.   "Cat licks"    As we are called by Baptist.
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    « Reply #25 on: December 20, 2013, 08:03:01 PM »
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  • LoT's so exactly right, but so are Tiff and Parents: you watch your children like the gift they are from God, and people dedicated to the Church, but you have sick days. I was very fortunate with good health, and we just simply did as LoT suggests — you go everywhere with your children, you are there, etc. Only in childbirth did I give up custody (for a few hours) to my parents, who are very good. I "overdid" it, but I was very much more paranoid that I thought I'd be. And what's "okay" with many trad families aren't with others. We've had people over who believe the display of alcohol is evil (we have a cabinet; not dismantling it to entertain). And I've visited others with

    how best to say this...

    "Velvet Jesus".  :pray: A large image of Our Lord without wounds on a black velvet background, and I usually love seeing as much of Our Lord and Lady and the Holy Family and the Saints as possible, but that, like the alcohol for others, is just something that rubs me the wrong way, I don't know why. (I'd never voice this in real life. Very nice holy people; it's not a "banned" image, that I know of. It's just not for me or mine.

    We visit family and have friends visit us, but we all recognize we have various foibles or idiosyncrasies, and try to respect that. Ours is, pretty much, no TV. A movie ....if we've seen it, but even then, I'd prefer the kids to play outside or in a craft area than be in front of the TV. It's my idiosyncrasy. (It's fine if others do it!)

    And grandparents.. such a tough issue if they're older. Yes, we're still responsible. 100% But we have to respect the in-laws (BIG OUCH for me at times; could be a big ouch for my husband, as well). It's all far easier said than done. It's a very fine line we have to walk. My children had never heard of Coke or Pepsi or (no kidding) candy bars until a particularly ...uh, wild aunt (a sister of mine) brought up the goodies one year. We allowed, within reason, things we wouldn't normally allow. Their aunt was horrified that we had only one TV, and sent them TVs.  :facepalm: (Don't ask.) We donated them to a local nursing home. Do everything in love and charity. It's very hard. (We had a will made where various parish members would get custody of our children in the event of our untimely demises. I LOVE my family. My parish members are closer, however, to our ways of parenting, and applaud such parenting, than some of my family members. That's where the Godparents come from, too.)
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    « Reply #26 on: December 20, 2013, 08:30:34 PM »
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    I saw a clip where the main players -- Phil, Kay, their son (Willy?) -- were discussing religion and the Duck Dynasty show. While Phil clearly wasn't crazy about the idea, their approach was that they would refrain from certain phrases / remarks (which A&E edited out anyhow) in favor of keeping their show on the air. They saw the show as an entry point and said if viewers were interested in hearing more about their faith, they'd go online or buy one of their books, etc to find out more.

    So, they willingly allowed phrases like "in God's name..." to be edited out of the show, but considered it a strategy of sorts to keep their access to such a large audience.

    I wonder if Phil decided that they were popular enough now that he could just tell it like it is and let the chips fall where they may. I'm sure there's someone out there who will keep their show on the air at this point considering how hugely popular it is.


    And thank you, Mater: this is EXACTLY what I was looking for. I fear once someone is involved in 'the industry' (already working with A&E and Disney), maybe they've already sold out.

    I have no idea what to think; I don't see supporting the show. I got burned with that on EWTN. ...though I don't wish ill on the former EWTN people, like Mother Angelica! I was happy to support them, and they gave new life to homebound elderly and even fallen away Catholics ...until the bad guys won and Mother A. had that last stroke. I believe she's still alive, oh but Penny Lord is in need of prayer, I hear  :pray:

    I'm extraordinarily careful now what plays on our TV. Sporting events, paused commercials; um, movies. I think Discovery or History for husband. Various things, but we're careful, and the kids don't watch (unless it's something special and then, they're with us.)

    As VCR Viva says (sorry your abbreviated name sounds like an appliance!! LOL!), I fear these Duck Dynasty sorts aren't among those who would, um, well "have our backs". I don't understand a religion that makes it acceptable for them to let Disney EDIT OUT your "Deo Gratias!" And yes, they're better than current Rome leaders !!! but that still doesn't mean they'd even reach the holiness of the Borgias Popes.

    I hate division amongst those who call on the name of the Lord, really I do, and it's tempting to openly support the Duck Dynasty characters (people?) just because an enemy of my enemy or whatever, but division must exist. It's Scriptural.

    I suppose constitutionally, "Phil" may have a leg to stand on, but really, the family has been with Disney/A&E a long time (years?!), and I have this feeling that if push came to shove, they'd stand with Disney as Catholic heads rolled. :/

    Thank you for the details. When a story gets this much airtime, it's hard discovering the truth of something before it became the big story. :-)
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    « Reply #27 on: December 20, 2013, 09:12:38 PM »
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  • As long as the populace continues to support and watch Hollywood filth, then no one can truly criticize Hollywood since everyone supports them.

    My grandparents made a big deal about this before I reminded them that they too watch Hollywood filth and also reminding them that Hollywood started out bad by quoting this Charles Lindbergh quote, "Jews in Hollywood and the press are pushing America into war." (World War II)

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    « Reply #28 on: December 21, 2013, 02:40:27 AM »
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    I don't watch TV but how sad is it that the truth is coming from "Hollywood"and not clergy! I hear NO other clergy calling out sodomy as a perversion or proper teaching about it.

    I know of a number of priests who say the Novus Ordo mass and they very publicly condemn ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ acts as sinful.

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    « Reply #29 on: December 21, 2013, 03:09:27 AM »
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  • The recent suspension of “Duck Dynasty” patriarch Phil Robertson over comments made on ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior has prompted a storm of controversy and major boycott threats.  

    Robertson and his family are the focal point for the A&E show “Duck Dynasty,” which follows the Louisiana clan’s home, business and recreational life as successful duck-call manufacturers.

    The show attracts a weekly viewership of around 14 million people, according to the Nielsen Company’s television ratings reports, and has broken records for the most-watched nonfiction cable telecast in history. In addition, the family has been involved in a number of books, speaking events and merchandise.

    The family has also gained attention for its outspoken defense of Christian beliefs, including support of pro-life positions and for marriage.

    In an interview with GQ magazine for its January edition – released online Dec. 18 – Robertson commented on his beliefs about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior.

    “Everything is blurred on what’s right and what’s wrong,” Robertson said of the acceptance of sin in modern culture. “Sin becomes fine.”

    “Start with ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ behavior and just morph out from there,” he said when asked what he believed to be sinful. “Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

    He also commented that sin in general is “not logical,” saying that it did not make sense to him why men would find same-sex interactions as “more desirable” than heterosɛҳuąƖ sex.

    Despite believing this behavior to be sinful, he said that he did not judge people, explaining, “We just love ‘em, give ‘em the good news about Jesus – whether they’re ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ‘em out later.”

    In response to his statements, A&E announced that it had “placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely.”

    “We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson’s comments in GQ,” the network said, adding that Robertson’s views do not reflect those of Duck Dynasty or of A&E Networks, which have “always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community.”

    The network has since received an outpouring of complaints. In less than 24 hours, a Facebook page entitled “Boycott A&E Until Phil Robertson Is Put Back On Duck Dynasty” garnered more than 930,000 likes, surpassing A&E’s Facebook page by more than 350,000.

    In addition, more than 73,000 people signed an online petition labeled #IStandWithPhil.

    Robertson later released a statement clarifying that his mission is “to go forth and tell people about why I follow Christ and also what the Bible teaches,” adding that “part of that teaching is that women and men are meant to be together.”

    “However, I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me,” he stressed. “We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”

    gαy advocacy group GLAAD denounced Robertson’s remarks as “some of the vilest and most extreme statements uttered against LGBT people in a mainstream publication.” The organization said his comments were hateful and discriminatory and applauded his indefinite suspension.

    Others, however, came to the defense of the Robertsons. Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal called them “great citizens of the State of Louisiana” in a Dec. 19 statement. He criticized the “politically correct crowd” for stigmatizing viewpoints “they disagree with.”

    “It is a messed-up situation when Miley Cyrus gets a laugh, and Phil Robertson gets suspended,” Jindal continued, in a reference to pop singer Cyrus’ highly publicized sɛҳuąƖ gestures during performances.

    Doug Napier, senior legal vice president for Alliance Defending Freedom, argued in a Dec. 19 statement that “one-sided censorship of the cultural and political elites” has damaged the “free marketplace of ideas” and “open discussion about important cultural issues.”

    National Organization for Marriage president Brian Brown called Robertson’s statements a “traditional Christian view of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity – decry the sin but love the sinner.”

    “It’s what every major Christian leader including Jesus Christ himself has taught us,” Brown said.

    He criticized A&E’s deference to gαy advocacy organizations, saying that doing so is giving in to intolerance.

    These groups, he said, “will brook no objection, tolerate no dissent and accept no disagreement when it comes to their orthodoxy.”

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/duck-dynasty-suspension-over-gαy-comments-sparks-criticism/