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« on: December 19, 2013, 09:07:56 PM »
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  • I'm not the one to do this since I don't watch Disney channels by choice, so I haven't seen this apparently-popular "reality show" called Duck Dynasty, in which the lead male ("reality"?  :scratchchin: ), who is said to lead family prayer in every episode, was interviewed by a magazine and, due to "anti-gay slurs" (sic), was fired by A&E (Disney), and the internet blew up into some ...Christian versus Hollywood (?) battle.

    The "stars" (in case you're as unfamiliar as I was):



    The offensive words, from an interview with GQ, as reported by CNN. (I'll edit out the offensive stuff with my words in brackets:)

    Quote from: CNN reporting on Phil of Duck Dynasty

    "It seems like, to me, a [woman's anatomy] -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a [man's anatomy.] That's just me. I'm just thinking: There's more there! She's got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I'm saying? But hey, sin: It's not logical, my man. It's just not logical," he's quoted as saying.

    When asked what he thought was sinful, Robertson replied: "Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

    But homosexuals aren't alone, Robertson said. "Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers -- they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."


    Okay, "Duck Dynasty" is not really something I care to watch regardless, but again, most of what's on TV is something I take a pass on. I do think people should boycott (and not make a big deal out of it — just do it) anything by Disney Corp., which includes A&E and so much more than TV. I don't write letters, talk about it, etc. I just don't participate. However, I do feel A&E firing this man for, essentially, quoting scripture (such as it is, but it IS Scripture; the meaning is there), is a definite sign of persecution that we all knew was coming. It's just headlines now.

    I'm not sure we should in any way endorse these Duck people. They're rich; they've been PAID by Disney for a long time (A&E, Disney, same thing). I'm really in a quandary! I'd really love to support the general principle of "free speech" with regard to religion since, obviously, the U.S. has problems in this area, and I pray fervently for Our Lord to afford people everywhere the ability to worship His Holy Name without hindrance. But I don't know how, or if they're the right people to endorse, even! (Remember that Jim Jones fellow, before I was born, who was supposedly Christian, and led the way to mass suicides/murders. I don't want to support that! I want to KNOW what I'm supporting. You know?)

    Anyone else have some information on this thing? What do you think a responsible Catholic should be ...doing? If anything? Thank you.
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    « Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 10:01:49 PM »
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  • I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  Anyone know that Walt Disney was a Socialist?  Anyone care?
    I don't watch Duck Dynasty but gave my two cents on Huffington Post.  I thought I was quite reasonable, saying that since 'they' don't consider what they're doing to be sinful, then what's the problem?  'They' can have free speech but we can't?!    I mostly got slammed for that.    I happened to catch Rush this morning and he said just what I had posted!!  So I'm not alone.

    Signing a petition wouldn't hurt.
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    « Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 11:04:27 PM »
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  • Yes, I boycott Disney and its properties, too. What they did to Britney and Miley was heartbreaking, and that was before I started giving birth.  :cry: I mean really, I don't pray for celebrities, unless they're children, and I guess my prayers just weren't in God's will; God's will happened and I accepted it. (I had merely wanted some good "role models" for my future children, and instead got "What NOT to do EVER". Which may be a blessing in disguise ("See what entertainment does to a child?!").

    I'm not sure how these shows get picked up. As I've admitted to, I've watched the horrifying "Honey Boo Boo" which, for all the terrible things I've seen, is 15 minutes of my life I wish I had back, as you can't unsee or even explain such things. You pray it's all some sick writers' idea of a script, but then you see people in local stores and you wonder, and I'm been making my secret "cross yourself in your palm" sign everytime I pass a potential mother/daughter cursing and laughing at each other over [explicit] in store aisles. I find I'm just avoiding stores, or do what I used to criticize others for doing: turning my head the other way. It's too much for me.

    I suppose I'll look for a petition  :smile: though I also imagine such things are just a way to "round up them varmint Christian folk". Oh well; we've got to be rounded up sometime!

    Now, to find the appropriate petition. Thank you Thorn. :-)
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    « Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 11:44:38 PM »
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    I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


    This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

    Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

    Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

    Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jew) was in charge of Disney?

    Have people heard of "Gay Day" over at Disneyland?

    A constant barrage of homosexual flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

    I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

    I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of homosexuality, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.

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    « Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 12:03:19 AM »
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  • I guess the homophiles now get to tell me what I can and cannot watch on TV.


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    « Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 12:05:26 AM »
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  •  :tv-disturbed:People actually watch this stuff?!!!!
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    « Reply #6 on: December 20, 2013, 12:10:17 AM »
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    :tv-disturbed:People actually watch this stuff?!!!!


    I tried to watch it and could only stand about 5 minutes. but I am watching FOX and Sean just stated it was the most popular show on TV.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 01:55:34 AM »
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  • I do not care about this t.v. show, but this controversy is only further proof that the supporters of this sin are quickly becoming the dominant political and social class in America.  

    The intolerance for those that will not bend to their will and publicly accept sodomy is only going to get more aggressive.  I find it ironic that these people always pretended to want us to tolerate them, now that they are taking control of America, they are quickly becoming the persecutors.
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    « Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 01:55:53 AM »
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  • Yes, crossbro, & they already do.





























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    « Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 01:57:59 AM »
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  • Good for you, parents. I'm not sure of the link between Looney Tunes and Disney, but I never enjoyed Looney Tunes much, either. My husband does, and our music professor, for the music. I've never seen any of those movies or films you mentioned. We're very anti-Disney. We've used pre-Disney things (can't remember what now), but the minute Disney bought the rights, IN THE GARBAGE they went. We've refused Disneyland/world tickets, as well.

    Yes, "Duck Dynasty" is apparently very popular; I don't quite understand the reason. I suppose it's not bad to have a praying father (better than most things out there, maybe); I just don't know what else they do.

    I'm not sure how many people know Disney is behind A&E, either. I cherry-pick very carefully, and so I knew that association. I was attempt-bullied (LOL) into watching Duck Dynasty many months ago, and just said I had better things to do with my time. I was shunned. So I just stayed away.

    I hate to not support something that might be anti-Disney, but the petition is about as far as I can reasonably go. I've seen people saying they've never watched it, but will, if it moves to a new channel. I just can't imagine it would be entertaining in any event (much less edifying). I don't mind brainless entertainment occasionally, but I just don't understand the premise behind this show besides "watch newly rich people go hunting"???
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    « Reply #10 on: December 20, 2013, 10:11:21 AM »
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    I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


    This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

    Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

    Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

    Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jew) was in charge of Disney?

    Have people heard of "Gay Day" over at Disneyland?

    A constant barrage of homosexual flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

    I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

    I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of homosexuality, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



    How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

    There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

    In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    « Reply #11 on: December 20, 2013, 11:12:48 AM »
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  • I don't watch TV but how sad is it that the truth is coming from "Hollywood"and not clergy! I hear NO other clergy calling out sodomy as a perversion or proper teaching about it.

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    « Reply #12 on: December 20, 2013, 11:18:24 AM »
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  • Quote from: Lover of Truth
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    I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


    This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

    Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

    Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

    Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jew) was in charge of Disney?

    Have people heard of "Gay Day" over at Disneyland?

    A constant barrage of homosexual flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

    I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

    I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of homosexuality, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



    How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

    There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

    In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.


    Maybe she was sick or she had a hospitalized child that needed her there 24/7? Be grateful you have health or a spouse and do not to need to depend on others for child care at times.  Children are safer with a Christian grandma who doesn't understand the harm with Cinderella than some other alternatives. I agree children should not be exposed to Disney but it's far reaching to think they are just there for a social visit.

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    « Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 11:31:04 AM »
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    I'm already boycotting Disney from way back.  


    This is what I've been doing since their so-called "children's movies" had embed images put in them. All the way back that I knew of at that time, in 1989. I was 13. My mother was awake and hungry for the truth at that time. It was from the movie "The Little Mermaid" that the boycott began for my immediate family.

    Do I even need to mention Miramax Film's movie, "Priest?"

    Did you know that Disney picked a producer for a children's movie that was a convicted pedophile, and would pay him to produce a movie geared for children, of all people, rather than some wholesome person?

    Anyone remember when Michael Eisner (steaming bowl of atheistic Jew) was in charge of Disney?

    Have people heard of "Gay Day" over at Disneyland?

    A constant barrage of homosexual flag waving has come from Disney for many, many years. I've had so much pressure over the years, especially at family gatherings on my husband's side of the family (who are all protestants, by the way) trying to get me to have my children attend Disney movies in the theater during Thanksgiving and Christmas. Even my traditional Catholic mother in law was showing them Disney movies behind my back at her home, despite my insistence that she not do so.

    I can't tell you how many pieces of clothing made it into my garbage can because they contained an image of a Disney character on them, no matter how "nice" such a piece was.

    I've been an opponent of Disney for a very long time. I'm glad they did something to a man that had the courage to speak out against the vile crime of homosexuality, because now maybe people will delve deeper into the sinister, abject filth of this company, and STOP GIVING THEM MONEY.



    How is it that your mother-in-law was in a position to where she could do this to your children.  Those images are etched in their mind.  The Catholic Church frowns upon live-ins with the married couple apart from necessity.  Reason being is precisely what you mention.  The usurpation of authority.  Then the division between husband and wife over the issue.  

    There is virtually no one you can visit without the occasion of sin being there.  My wife and I have a solution to this problem.  We do not visit anyone.  

    In gatherings even if their is not excessive drinking.  And no cussing, and using the Lord's Name in Vain which the children will pick up right away, there will be bad influences, music, dressing conversation, gossip.  The children are in your hands to guide safely to heaven.  Woe to them that scandalize these little ones.  Your mother-in-law needs to be made aware of that and should be avoided if possible.  She should never be alone with the children.  And if she does things you do not like when you are around have her leave or leave with your children.  Don't let your children learn evil from anyone no matter who they are.


    Maybe she was sick or she had a hospitalized child that needed her there 24/7? Be grateful you have health or a spouse and do not to need to depend on others for child care at times.  Children are safer with a Christian grandma who doesn't understand the harm with Cinderella than some other alternatives. I agree children should not be exposed to Disney but it's far reaching to think they are just there for a social visit.


    Of course, if it is unavoidable you go with the best alternative.  But what I say stands if it is not unavoidable.  Many traditional Catholics compromise with the world.  Many uninstructed good-willed Catholics compromise with the world without even realizing it.   It is important to have the salvation of your children at the forefront of your every thought word and action.  The repercussions are infinite.
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    « Reply #14 on: December 20, 2013, 11:59:16 AM »
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  • This duck hunt guy teaches better than the pope.

     

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