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Diego · « **Reply #120 on:** February 15, 2012, 06:20:11 PM »

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...I don't believe in slamming people who are not Catholic just for that reason. ...I think that we should love all sinners...

Did someone here suggest hating them? I missed that. I have only seen warnings to be careful lest one lose body and/or soul from their pernicious creed and misanthropic behavior.

Jesus "slammed" them:

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accused by Moses John 5:45-47
adversaries to all men I Thessalonians 2:14
agents of the devil John 8:44
blind Matthew 23:26
blind guides Matthew 23:16, 17, 19, 24
children of Hell Matthew 23:15
children of the devil John 8:44
crucifiers Matthew 23:34
dangerous leaven Matthew 16:6-12; Mark 8:15; Luke 12:1
defectors Matthew 15:6; Mark 7:9, 13; John 5:45, 46, 47
deicides I Thessalonians 2:14-15
dogs Matthew 7:6; Apocalypse 22:16
foolish Matthew 23:17
full of dead men's bones Matthew 23:27
haters of God John 15:24,25
hypocrites Matthew 6:2, 5; 15:7; 22:18; 23:13, 14, 15, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29; Mark 7:6; Luke 13:15
idolaters Apocalypse 22:16
iniquitous Matthew 23:28
killers of the just Matthew 23:35
killers of the prophets Matthew 23:37; I Thessalonians 2:14-15
liars John 8:44, 55; Apocalypse 3:9, 22:16
murderers Matthew 23:31; Apocalypse 22:15
offspring of vipers Luke 3:7
purveyors of fables Titus 1:13-14
serpents Matthew 23:33
sorcerers Apocalypse 22:16
swine Matthew 7:6
ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan Apocalypse 2:9, 3:9
unchaste Apocalypse 22:16
unclean Matthew 23:25
vipers Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33
void the commandments of God for the traditions of men Mark 7:8-9
whited sepulchers Matthew 23:27

axe laid to the root Matthew 3:10
cast into the fire Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9
condemned Mark 16:16
cut down Matthew 3:10
in vain do they worship me Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7
judgment of Hell Matthew 23:33
shall be broken Matthew 21:44
shall be ground into powder Matthew 21:44
the kingdom of God shall be taken from you Matthew 21:43
woe Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52
wrath Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16
you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 23:13

Do you think Jesus is a bad example?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #121 on:** February 15, 2012, 06:57:36 PM »

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Communism breads atheism...not judaism.

Um... again, in the protocols I posted, they say specifically that they support Communism.

Diego · « **Reply #122 on:** February 15, 2012, 07:52:40 PM »

Here's an interesting photo of Stalin in a yarmulke:
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/02/rabbi-ss-wise-on-joys-of-marxism.html

MyrnaM · « **Reply #123 on:** February 15, 2012, 07:56:54 PM »

I really believe that when it comes to the Jєωιѕн people, everyone here is a little bit correct, and I wish someone would detail how ALL the Jєωιѕн people are not all alike, take this verse quoted previously...

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Behold, I will bring of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.

As Benjamine Freedman has disclosed:

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Do you know what Jews do on the Day of Atonement, that you think is so sacred to them? I was one of them. This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts. When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a ѕуηαgσgυє, you stand up for the very first prayer that you recite. It is the only prayer for which you stand. You repeat three times a short prayer called the Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months shall be null and void. The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force or effect. And further, the тαℓмυd teaches that whenever you take an oath, vow, or pledge, you are to remember the Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and you are exempted from fulfilling them. How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916. We are going to suffer the same fate as Germany suffered, and for the same reason.

Not all Jєωιѕн people are this type, some are just families that need prayer to Know Jesus Christ. Yet, so many here just speak with a feeling of hatred as if ALL Jєωιѕн people are against us. which is not true and it seems you are speaking past each other.

Diego · « **Reply #124 on:** February 15, 2012, 07:58:45 PM »

Ahhh, those tricky children of the Father of Lies:

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #125 on:** February 15, 2012, 08:13:28 PM »

Not sure if any Santorum supporters know about this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums-wife-Karen-love-affair-abortion-doctor.html

http://schotline.us/2012/01/05/santorums-voting-record-not-good/

http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/rick-santorums-wife-was-in-unmarried-relationship-with-abortion-doctor/politics/2012/01/10/32978

Santorum has not spoken out against NDAA or the extension of the "patriot" act. He probably supports drones flying in American skies, too.

A vote for Santorum is a vote for Obama. That translates to a vote for a growing police state, more war, corporate cronyism, a criminal banking cartel, big oil, big pharma, etc., all while the little goyim become further entrenched in their servitude to the aforementioned. Santorum has also more than hinted he will attack Iran. Somebody on this thread said there is no reason to believe Santorum would attack Iran preemptively, based on his rhetoric. Well, George W campaigned on a "humble foreign policy" and not sticking our noses in other people's business. Pure deception.

Ron Paul is the only candidate with a consistent and ethical voting background.

Sigismund · « **Reply #126 on:** February 15, 2012, 08:14:37 PM »

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I really believe that when it comes to the Jєωιѕн people, everyone here is a little bit correct, and I wish someone would detail how ALL the Jєωιѕн people are not all alike, take this verse quoted previously...

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Behold, I will bring of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.

As Benjamine Freedman has disclosed:
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Do you know what Jews do on the Day of Atonement, that you think is so sacred to them? I was one of them. This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts. When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a ѕуηαgσgυє, you stand up for the very first prayer that you recite. It is the only prayer for which you stand. You repeat three times a short prayer called the Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months shall be null and void. The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force or effect. And further, the тαℓмυd teaches that whenever you take an oath, vow, or pledge, you are to remember the Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and you are exempted from fulfilling them. How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916. We are going to suffer the same fate as Germany suffered, and for the same reason.

Not all Jєωιѕн people are this type, some are just families that need prayer to Know Jesus Christ. Yet, so many here just speak with a feeling of hatred as if ALL Jєωιѕн people are against us. which is not true and it seems you are speaking past each other.

I sent this quote to a relative who is Jєωιѕн, and whose morality I trust. This was his reply.

"This is nonsense. Anyone with a computer or a library card can examine the liturgy for Yom Kippur and see that. We ask forgiveness for the promises to God that we have failed to keep. There is nothing about asking forgiveness for harm done to other people because Jews believe that even God cannot forgive that. Only the person you have harmed can."

Diego · « **Reply #127 on:** February 15, 2012, 08:19:24 PM »

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...Not all Jєωιѕн people are this type..

Some of us are not morons. We actually know that, but it is the leaders that drag them into the worst things. Their tribalism prevents them from disciplining the worst among them... and the innocents suffer.

At the moment though their worst of the worst, not satisfied with the loot from their worldwide economic crimes against humanity, are trying to start World War III.

Diego · « **Reply #128 on:** February 15, 2012, 08:31:18 PM »

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...I sent this quote to a relative who is Jєωιѕн, and whose morality I trust. This was his reply.

"This is nonsense. Anyone with a computer or a library card can examine the liturgy for Yom Kippur and see that. We ask forgiveness for the promises to God that we have failed to keep. There is nothing about asking forgiveness for harm done to other people because Jews believe that even God cannot forgive that. Only the person you have harmed can."

The Kol Nidre has been exposed since the Middle Ages. Sincere converts like Donin and Pfefferkorn revealed that the Kol Nidre is a denial of FUTURE oaths. The rabbis were challenged, as they were also challenged on the wickedness of their Oral Torah (тαℓмυd and Kabbalistic literature). They had NO answer then; they slunk away from the Disputations.

In the intervening centuries, however, the objectionable texts made available to Gentiles have been sanitized, censored, and code words substituted, so there is no shortage of decoy texts available. The Catholic Church had some role in that, but that is a different discussion.

Keep in mind too that the average "Jew" knows about as much about Judaism as the average "Catholic" knows about Catholicism.

The genuine Kol Nidre is definitely a denial of FUTURE oaths.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #129 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:30:38 PM »

Of course not ALL Jews are the same. But the point I've been making still stands: Jews are a threat. I shouldn't have to explain why.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #130 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:48:10 PM »

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The Antichrist could possibly be Muslim too. I don't know why you are so sure that he will be a Jew.

No, all Prophecies say that he will be a Jew. And if you had read the protocols I posted, you would see that the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons speak of crowning their "king of the Jews" which will be the antichrist (and before you say they were speaking of Christ, protocol #14 says that they shall forbid Christ).

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You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.

No, Diego is right about the Jews. You say we shouldn't slam them, yet interestingly you then proceed to admit that they will not be saved. So which is it? Do you think the Jews are good people who will be saved like the Vatican II church says, or do you agree with the Catholic Church that the Jews will not be saved?

I don't believe in slamming people who are not Catholic just for that reason. I believe in Free-Will. I think that we should love all sinners since we are sinners ourselves. Plus I think by loving them they are more likely to convert to Catholicism as oppossed to us trying to play an authoritative role with them by cracking our whips.

Vatican II says the Jews have a chance at Salvation? Please show me that.

Very well. First, JPII said this about the Jews:

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Jews are our elder brothers in the faith. "Crossing the Threshold of Hope", 1994

From the Vatican II docuмents:

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True, the Jєωιѕн authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ.

The previous two statements contradict Church teachings on Jews. Compare those statements to statements from Saints before Vatican II:

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Saint Fulgentius (died A.D. 533): "Hold most firmly and never doubt at all that not only pagans, but also all Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the Catholic Church, will go into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

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Saint Augustine (died A.D. 430): "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church."

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #131 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:53:29 PM »

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The Antichrist could possibly be Muslim too. I don't know why you are so sure that he will be a Jew.

No, all Prophecies say that he will be a Jew. And if you had read the protocols I posted, you would see that the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons speak of crowning their "king of the Jews" which will be the antichrist (and before you say they were speaking of Christ, protocol #14 says that they shall forbid Christ).

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You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.

No, Diego is right about the Jews. You say we shouldn't slam them, yet interestingly you then proceed to admit that they will not be saved. So which is it? Do you think the Jews are good people who will be saved like the Vatican II church says, or do you agree with the Catholic Church that the Jews will not be saved?

I don't believe in slamming people who are not Catholic just for that reason. I believe in Free-Will. I think that we should love all sinners since we are sinners ourselves. Plus I think by loving them they are more likely to convert to Catholicism as oppossed to us trying to play an authoritative role with them by cracking our whips.

Vatican II says the Jews have a chance at Salvation? Please show me that.

Very well. First, JPII said this about the Jews:

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Jews are our elder brothers in the faith. "Crossing the Threshold of Hope", 1994

From the Vatican II docuмents:

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True, the Jєωιѕн authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ.

The previous two statements contradict Church teachings on Jews. Compare those statements to statements from Saints before Vatican II:

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Saint Fulgentius (died A.D. 533): "Hold most firmly and never doubt at all that not only pagans, but also all Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the Catholic Church, will go into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."

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Saint Augustine (died A.D. 430): "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church."

I agree.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #132 on:** February 15, 2012, 09:56:50 PM »

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I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.

Virtually the entire Clinton, Bush, and Obama cabinets were/are Judaics. The media is owned/controlled by Judaics. With the exception of Iran and Libya, the central banks of the world and international finance have been controlled disproportionately by Judaics. Abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism, pornography, slavery, sex slavery, and organized crime are disproportionately Judaic.

Communism was theirs. They boasted of that until the body count became widely known. Now they can't deny their involvement in Communism fast enough.

“Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-assassins in the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Black Hand Lodge) started World War ONE—25 million died.

“Chosen People” (the 1934 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.

“Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, gαy, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.

The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE in the 20th century. Islamics didn't come close to that.

How many souls will you let them kill in the 21st century?

GOD warned us about "the leaven of the Pharisees," "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan," and "the adversaries to all men." He did not say one word about Islam as a future threat. Not one of the Blessed Mother's apparitions in the last two centuries have said one word about Islam. In 1917 Our Lady of Fatima warned us about "the errors of Russia" which at the time had undergone the first of two ʝʊdɛօ-Bolshevist led revolutions.

You don't have to be "Hitler" to be aware of the dangers that they represent to body and soul. Whatever their numbers, they have been a far greater danger to body and soul than the Islamics.

Even if you are a college kid, you are a moron to be in denial about all that.

You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.

Are you suggesting that Gavril Princpes and 4 of the 6 assassins were not Jєωιѕн?
Are you suggesting that World Jewry did not declare war on Germany in 1934?
Are you suggesting that Rabbi Moses Hess, Karl Marx, and all the rest were not Jєωιѕн? Or has nothing to do with Communism? that contemporary World Jewry did not boast that Communism was theirs? that 60 million were not killed by them in the USSR?

Are you suggesting that most of those presidential cabinets were not "Jєωιѕн"?

That God did not warn us about them? that the Blessed Mother didn't warn about their errors?

This article says Karl Marx was not Jєωιѕн...

http://www.jewcy.com/religion-and-beliefs/was_karl_marx_really_Jєωιѕн

Communism breads atheism...not judaism.

One pseudo-datum is your only response? I am thinking you are not an intellectually honest person, just a change agent.

Karl Marx's rabbi was Rabbi Moses Hess.

Here are reliable lists of the OTHER Jєωιѕн Communists as well:
See Part 1, especially “Jєωιѕн TESTIMONY,” at http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/ http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html

Even today, some of the tribe admit their role in Communism:

Stalin's Jews
by Sever Plocker, Published: 12.21.06, 23:35 / Israel Opinion
“We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jєωιѕн…”
http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

There are other non-Catholic sources:
The Jєωιѕн Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime: Assessing the Grim Legacy of Soviet Communism by Mark Weber
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html

LOL. So its about numbers only when it best suits you. One response is not good enough? Neither is 13.5 million Jews world wide. Use your head diego. Your just a fiesty guy who wants to push people until they tell you what you want to hear.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #133 on:** February 15, 2012, 10:00:13 PM »

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LOL. So its about numbers only when it best suits you. One response is not good enough? Neither is 13.5 million Jews world wide.

The numbers hardly matter, to be truthful. There will be a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr no matter what. It's already here, and it's only going to get worse.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #134 on:** February 15, 2012, 10:03:27 PM »

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LOL. So its about numbers only when it best suits you. One response is not good enough? Neither is 13.5 million Jews world wide.

The numbers hardly matter, to be truthful. There will be a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr no matter what. It's already here, and it's only going to get worse.

I agree. We do know that the Anti-Christ will trick the Jews into believing that He is the Messiah...you say He will be a Jew himself. I can see that the chances are high that he will be Jew, but we don't know that for sure....unless you have some prophecies from the Saints that say otherwise.

I think that right now the Jews are not a threat, but potentially they are just as much of a threat as Muslims who are 1.6 Billion strong.