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Traditional Catholic Faith => Politics and World Leaders => Topic started by: InfiniteFaith on February 12, 2012, 02:24:02 AM
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Anybody else here supporting Rick Santorum?
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Explain why you would?
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he is a devout Catholic homeschools 7 kids goes to Mass daily .
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he is a devout Catholic homeschools 7 kids goes to Mass daily .
Soo that qualifies him to be president of the United States?
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It'd be nice if our president was driven by grace every once and a while.
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He also wouldn't hesitate to go to war with Iran for Israel's sake.
It'd also be nice to have a president who wasn't a tool for the Jews and Israeli's for once.
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he is a devout Catholic homeschools 7 kids goes to Mass daily .
Soo that qualifies him to be president of the United States?
Exactly. Santorum is a stooge for Israel.That is my opinion of him. If I were American, I wouldn't be voting at all. Sod their system.
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Not voting at all is a vote for Obama. So I guess you want Obama again, I don't!
I would rather risk it with his opponent whoever he might be. Personally I am not happy with any of them, but I will vote against Obama.
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While I don't believe there will be an actually perfect Catholic ruler till Christ returns in glory, and had some reservations about him at first, I've decided I'm fine with Santorum.
He also wouldn't hesitate to go to war with Iran for Israel's sake.
Maybe that's why he wrote, in an op-ed,
Some say that this means we have to launch a military attack against Iran. I don't believe that. I think most Iranian people want to be free of their evil regime, and millions of them have taken to the streets, in the face of security forces all too happy to kill them, to show their contempt for their leaders. It's a revolutionary force, and we should support it.
We defeated the Soviet Union without using military means. We supported the Soviet dissidents and refuseniks, and the Soviet regime collapsed. I believe we can do the same thing in Iran.
This from the man who authored the Iran freedom and support Act when it was first unanimously opposed then soon after unanimously passed. He knows what he's talking about on national security and foreign policy and he has 8 years of experience on the armed services committee. Maybe a strong president may have prevented the situation from degenerating into what it has already. It may not even matter, because Iran is probably going to be attacked before November.
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He also wouldn't hesitate to go to war with Iran for Israel's sake.
It'd also be nice to have a president who wasn't a tool for the Jews and Israeli's for once.
It's a dream that wasn't meant to be.
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While I don't believe there will be an actually perfect Catholic ruler till Christ returns in glory, and had some reservations about him at first, I've decided I'm fine with Santorum.
He also wouldn't hesitate to go to war with Iran for Israel's sake.
Maybe that's why he wrote, in an op-ed,
Some say that this means we have to launch a military attack against Iran. I don't believe that. I think most Iranian people want to be free of their evil regime, and millions of them have taken to the streets, in the face of security forces all too happy to kill them, to show their contempt for their leaders. It's a revolutionary force, and we should support it.
We defeated the Soviet Union without using military means. We supported the Soviet dissidents and refuseniks, and the Soviet regime collapsed. I believe we can do the same thing in Iran.
This from the man who authored the Iran freedom and support Act when it was first unanimously opposed then soon after unanimously passed. He knows what he's talking about on national security and foreign policy and he has 8 years of experience on the armed services committee. Maybe a strong president may have prevented the situation from degenerating into what it has already. It may not even matter, because Iran is probably going to be attacked before November.
How does Santorum know what "most" Iranians want? Who made him an authority of what is good for Iran and it's people? Why are we even to be involved in the middle of Persian politics, isn't that what got us into trouble in Tehran years ago with the Shah, Khomeini and the hostages and all that?
Iran is not the former Soviet Union, communism days were numbered from the beginning, Iran is a theocracy with a fanatical Islamic support base that will not be easily manipulated from within and Amadinejad is not Saddam Hussein or even OBL, he has vast support from surrounding Shiite Muslims as well as a working relationship with the Russia and the Chinese, capitulating Iran will be a tall order.
A strong president may have prevented the situation from what it is, but a stupid one that is more concerned about what's good for Israel than the United States will be a real disaster from which we might not recover.
If Iran is indeed attacked before the election look for it to happen soon, Purim is just around the corner, the Jews have a thing for significant dates and festivals when it comes to warring against their enemies.
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Not voting at all is a vote for Obama. So I guess you want Obama again, I don't!
I would rather risk it with his opponent whoever he might be. Personally I am not happy with any of them, but I will vote against Obama.
Yeah, and of all the republican candidates I feel Santorum is best. He is Catholic, and I think he would be better suited for the job than Gingrich.
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
Ron Paul does not want to support Israel. If Israel were attacked then Ron Paul would do nothing. Is that what the Catholic stance on Israel is?
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Ron Paul does not want to support Israel. If Israel were attacked then Ron Paul would do nothing. Is that what the Catholic stance on Israel is?
You're putting words in Paul's mouth, he never said that. And the Catholics don't want anything to do with Israel. If you read the "protocols of the Zionist Jews" you would see why. In fact, let me give you that link to prove it...
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Here InfiniteFaith, read this and you'll see why Trads don't like Jews:
http://biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm#Table
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Ron Paul does not want to support Israel. If Israel were attacked then Ron Paul would do nothing. Is that what the Catholic stance on Israel is?
You're putting words in Paul's mouth, he never said that. And the Catholics don't want anything to do with Israel. If you read the "protocols of the Zionist Jews" you would see why. In fact, let me give you that link to prove it...
OK well....some people seem to think He is. I don't know for sure, but I have been under the impression that he is.
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Edit: I see you read them, so never mind.
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Here InfiniteFaith, read this and you'll see why Trads don't like Jews:
http://biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm#Table
Can you say that all Jews fall into this "Zionist" category? From my understanding, your article seems to be pointing towards a Jєωιѕн agenda for world domination. While I am not disagreeing that some Jews may think this....can you really say that all Jews have this understanding?
Also, there are Catholics who would be thrilled at the idea of world Catholic domination. I would be willing to bet that there have been members of the Catholic hierarchy who have plotted against politicians etc. for the same reasons the Jews have. Doesn't mean all of us are in on it.
Who would you rather see have possession of the Holy Land? The Jews or the Muslims?
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Also, what official Catholic docuмent states that the Catholic Church does not hold any interest in Israel?
Don't you think the Crusades are an example of the Catholic Church protecting Israel?
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Here's the thing, InfiniteFaith. It is the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons (the Jєωιѕн Freemasons) that want world domination. Not all Jews are in on it, true, but Israel is full of Jєωιѕн Masons. Prophecies also state that the Antichrist will rise in Israel.
The Catholics are for the Social Kingship of Christ, which is what should be implemented. The Jєωιѕн Masons are for the Antichrist. So there is quite a difference there. I'm going to point two protocols in case you missed then.
PROTOCOL No. 7
1. The intensification of armaments, the increase of police forces - are all essential for the completion of the aforementioned plans. What we have to get at is that there should be in all the States of the world, besides ourselves, only the masses of the proletariat, a few millionaires devoted to our interests, police and soldiers.
2. Throughout all Europe, and by means of relations with Europe, in other continents also, we must create ferments, discords and hostility. Therein we gain a double advantage. In the first place we keep in check all countries, for they will know that we have the power whenever we like to create disorders or to restore order. All these countries are accustomed to see in us an indispensable force of coercion. In the second place, by our intrigues we shall tangle up all the threads which we have stretched into the cabinets of all States by means of the political, by economic treaties, or loan obligations. In order to succeed in this we must use great cunning and penetration during negotiations and agreements, but, as regards what is called the "official language," we shall keep to the opposite tactics and assume the mask of honesty and complacency. In this way the peoples and governments of the GOYIM, whom we have taught to look only at the outside whatever we present to their notice, will still continue to accept us as the benefactors and saviours of the human race.
UNIVERSAL WAR
3. We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war.
4. The principal factor of success in the political is the secrecy of its undertakings: the word should not agree with the deeds of the diplomat.
5. We must compel the governments of the GOYIM to take action in the direction favored by our widely conceived plan, already approaching the desired consummation, by what we shall represent as public opinion, secretly promoted by us through the means of that so-called "Great Power" - THE PRESS, WHICH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS THAT MAY BE DISREGARDED, IS ALREADY ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS.
6. In a word, to sum up our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts and to all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against us, we shall respond with the guns of America or China or Japan. (The Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905; Japan; Iraq and Afghanistan - Ed.).
And then:
PROTOCOL No. 17
1. The practice of advocacy produces men cold, cruel, persistent, unprincipled, who in all cases take up an impersonal, purely legal standpoint. They have the inveterate habit to refer everything to its value for the defense and not to the public welfare of its results. They do not usually decline to undertake any defense whatever, they strive for an acquittal at all costs, caviling over every petty crux of jurisprudence and thereby they demoralize justice. For this reason we shall set this profession into narrow frames which will keep it inside this sphere of executive public service. Advocates, equally with judges, will be deprived of the right of communication with litigants; they will receive business only from the court and will study it by notes of report and docuмents, defending their clients after they have been interrogated in court on facts that have appeared. They will receive an honorarium without regard to the quality of the defense. This will render them mere reporters on law-business in the interests of justice and as counterpoise to the proctor who will be the reporter in the interests of prosecution; this will shorten business before the courts. In this way will be established a practice of honest unprejudiced defense conducted not from personal interest but by conviction. This will also, by the way, remove the present practice of corrupt bargain between advocation to agree only to let that side win which pays most .....
WE SHALL DESTROY THE CLERGY
2. WE HAVE LONG PAST TAKEN CARE TO DISCREDIT THE PRIESTHOOD OF THE "GOYIM," and thereby to ruin their mission on earth which in these days might still be a great hindrance to us. Day by day its influence on the peoples of the world is falling lower. FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE HAS BEEN DECLARED EVERYWHERE, SO THAT NOW ONLY YEARS DIVIDE US FROM THE MOMENT OF THE COMPLETE WRECKING OF THAT CHRISTIAN RELIGION: as to other religions we shall have still less difficulty in dealing with them, but it would be premature to speak of this now. We shall set clericalism and clericals into such narrow frames as to make their influence move in retrogressive proportion to its former progress.
3. When the time comes finally to destroy the papal court the finger of an invisible hand will point the nations towards this court. When, however, the nations fling themselves upon it, we shall come forward in the guise of its defenders as if to save excessive bƖσσdshɛd. By this diversion we shall penetrate to its very bowels and be sure we shall never come out again until we have gnawed through the entire strength of this place. (Karl Rothschild acted as "peacemaker" between the Vatican and her enemies, loaning the Vatican five million pounds in a period of difficulty. Gregory XVI conferred a Papal decoration on Kalman Rothschild since when Rothschilds have been "Guardians of the Vatican Treasury").
4. THE KING OF THE JEWS WILL BE THE REAL POPE OF THE UNIVERSE, THE PATRIARCH OF THE INTERNATIONAL CHURCH
5. But, IN THE MEANTIME, while we are re-educating youth in new traditional religions and afterwards in ours, WE SHALL NOT OVERTLY LAY A FINGER ON EXISTING CHURCHES, BUT WE SHALL FIGHT AGAINST THEM BY CRITICISM CALCULATED TO PRODUCE SCHISM . . .
6. In general, then, our contemporary press will continue to CONVICT State affairs, religions, incapacities of the GOYIM, always using the most unprincipled expressions in order by every means to lower their prestige in the manner which can only be practiced by the genius of our gifted tribe . . . (Calling the Jim Jones massacre in Guyana a mass ѕυιcιdє, not a C.I.A./MK-ULTRA/U.S. Government massacre? Denying the massacre of the Branch Dravidian sect at Waco, Texas, was a needless and deliberate massacre by the B.A.T.F./F.B.I/C.I.A/U.S. Government).
7. Our kingdom will be an apologia of the divinity Vishnu, in whom is found its personification - in our hundred hands will be, one in each, the springs of the machinery of social life. We shall see everything without the aid of official police which, in that scope of its rights which we elaborated for the use of the GOYIM, hinders governments from seeing. In our programs ONE-THIRD OF OUR SUBJECTS WILL KEEP THE REST UNDER OBSERVATION from a sense of duty, on the principle of volunteer service to the State. It will then be no disgrace to be a spy and informer, but a merit: unfounded denunciations, however, will be cruelly punished that there may be no development of abuses of this right.
8. Our agents will be taken from the higher as well as the lower ranks of society, from among the administrative class who spend their time in amusements, editors, printers and publishers, booksellers, clerks, and salesmen, workmen, coachmen, lackeys, et cetera. This body, having no rights and not being empowered to take any action on their own account, and consequently a police without any power, will only witness and report: verification of their reports and arrests will depend upon a responsible group of controllers of police affairs, while the actual act of arrest will be performed by the gendarmerie and the municipal police. Any person not denouncing anything seen or heard concerning questions of polity will also be charged with and made responsible for concealment, if it be proved that he is guilty of this crime.
9. JUST AS NOWADAYS OUR BRETHREN, ARE OBLIGED AT THEIR OWN RISK TO DENOUNCE TO THE KAHAL APOSTATES OF THEIR OWN FAMILY or members who have been noticed doing anything in opposition to the KAHAL, SO IN OUR KINGDOM OVER ALL THE WORLD IT WILL BE OBLIGATORY FOR ALL OUR SUBJECTS TO OBSERVE THE DUTY OF SERVICE TO THE STATE IN THIS DIRECTION.
10. Such an organization will extirpate abuses of authority, of force, of bribery, everything in fact which we by our counsels, by our theories of the superhuman rights of man, have introduced into the customs of the GOYIM .... But how else were we to procure that increase of causes predisposing to disorders in the midst of their administration? .... Among the number of those methods one of the most important is - agents for the restoration of order, so placed as to have the opportunity in their disintegrating activity of developing and displaying their evil inclinations - obstinate self-conceit, irresponsible exercise of authority, and, first and foremost, venality.
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So we see from the two protocols I listed that the Jєωιѕн Masons are responsible for universal war and for the crisis in the Church.
Also, what official Catholic docuмent states that the Catholic Church does not hold any interest in Israel?
A Church docuмent is not needed to show that Traditional Catholics do not support Israel. What the Church does say, however, is that the Jews will not be saved. Some people have even gone as far as to say that the Jews are the biggest enemy of the Church, which makes sense once you read the protocols.
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So we see from the two protocols I listed that the Jєωιѕн Masons are responsible for universal war and for the crisis in the Church.
Also, what official Catholic docuмent states that the Catholic Church does not hold any interest in Israel?
A Church docuмent is not needed to show that Traditional Catholics do not support Israel. What the Church does say, however, is that the Jews will not be saved. Some people have even gone as far as to say that the Jews are the biggest enemy of the Church, which makes sense once you read the protocols.
I wouldn't be surprised if people like this are responsible for the child molestation scandals being pinned on the Catholic Church. Child molesters exist everywhere, and it is not just in the Catholic Church. Nor is it more common in the Catholic Church than anywhere else.
I will say that these protocols call to mind this one Jew I know of. He has no college degree or anything, but always seems to find a job that pays like $150,000/year in the banking industry. Im pretty confident that the reason why this guy gets jobs like these is because he knows people in the right places.
If you would allow me to be the Great Catholic Monarch...I might put a stop to all of this :smirk:
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
Ron Paul does not want to support Israel. If Israel were attacked then Ron Paul would do nothing. Is that what the Catholic stance on Israel is?
If Israel is attacked? No one is attacking Israel, least of all Iran.
But Israel through it's Mossad is killing Iranian scientists as well as perpetuating a global war against Iran through the use of it's Western allies with it's economic and political influence and PAC lobbys.
Israel routinely commits genocide against Palestinians and it's Arab neighbors.
The U.S. does nothing.
Is that what the Catholic stance on middle east affairs is?
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
Ron Paul does not want to support Israel. If Israel were attacked then Ron Paul would do nothing. Is that what the Catholic stance on Israel is?
If Israel is attacked? No one is attacking Israel, least of all Iran.
But Israel through it's Mossad is killing Iranian scientists as well as perpetuating a global war against Iran through the use of it's Western allies with it's economic and political influence and PAC lobbys.
Israel routinely commits genocide against Palestinians and it's Arab neighbors.
The U.S. does nothing.
Is that what the Catholic stance on middle east affairs is?
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
Ron Paul does not want to support Israel. If Israel were attacked then Ron Paul would do nothing. Is that what the Catholic stance on Israel is?
If Israel is attacked? No one is attacking Israel, least of all Iran.
But Israel through it's Mossad is killing Iranian scientists as well as perpetuating a global war against Iran through the use of it's Western allies with it's economic and political influence and PAC lobbys.
Israel routinely commits genocide against Palestinians and it's Arab neighbors.
The U.S. does nothing.
Is that what the Catholic stance on middle east affairs is?
I am not sure of what conspiracy theories you have been subjecting yourself to. I would say if the Vatican were to support Israel in any kind of conflict...it would be because we are protecting Holy Land. We would not want the Muslims to control this territory, and would much rather have Jews there.
Why do you say the Jews are committing genocide with Palestinians? How is that genocide?
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
This is absolutely correct. This is the main reason I am supporting
Paul.
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
Ron Paul does not want to support Israel. If Israel were attacked then Ron Paul would do nothing. Is that what the Catholic stance on Israel is?
If Israel is attacked? No one is attacking Israel, least of all Iran.
But Israel through it's Mossad is killing Iranian scientists as well as perpetuating a global war against Iran through the use of it's Western allies with it's economic and political influence and PAC lobbys.
Israel routinely commits genocide against Palestinians and it's Arab neighbors.
The U.S. does nothing.
Is that what the Catholic stance on middle east affairs is?
There is no Catholic stance on Israel specifically, and there should not be. Ti is a country, like any other.
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
SS, would you mind posting a link to the sermon? I would like to hear it (and maybe send it to some friends of mine who are inclined to vote for Santorum). For me, if Santorum abandoned his positions on torture, preventive war, and targeted killings of civilians, he'd be a fine candidate.
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
SS, would you mind posting a link to the sermon? I would like to hear it (and maybe send it to some friends of mine who are inclined to vote for Santorum). For me, if Santorum abandoned his positions on torture, preventive war, and targeted killings of civilians, he'd be a fine candidate.
Not sure what you mean by preventive war. But if you are suggesting he wants to avoid all conflict then that would contradict what I have been reading about. He thinks the Obama Administration is being too soft on Iran, and He has also been supporting the war on terror the entire time.
Do you have a source for what you are saying about that and targeted killings?
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InfiniteFaith and Nishant2011, I disagree with you both. I was listening to a sermon from an FSSP priest online this morning (I have no access to a TLM), and he said that Santorum and Gingrich didn't take the Catholic stance on war. He stated that JPII and Benedict both condemned the wars with Iraq and other places. Then the priest said that Ron Paul is the only one with a Catholic stance on war.
So Santorum and Gingrich may be Catholic, but their position on war sure isn't. If you want to vote for either one of them, go right ahead. I'm going to support the candidate who's stance on war and other issues is more Catholic than anyone else's, that candidate being Ron Paul.
This is absolutely correct. This is the main reason I am supporting
Paul.
What do you think about libertarianism?
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SS, would you mind posting a link to the sermon? I would like to hear it (and maybe send it to some friends of mine who are inclined to vote for Santorum).
I tried and it wouldn't load. I'll have to try again tomorrow.
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Not sure what you mean by preventive war.
Going to war in the absence of aggression or immanent threat.
Do you have a source for what you are saying about that and targeted killings?
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-27/politics/30327433_1_nuclear-program-iranian-scientists-russian-scientists
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I am not sure of what conspiracy theories you have been subjecting yourself to. I would say if the Vatican were to support Israel in any kind of conflict...it would be because we are protecting Holy Land. We would not want the Muslims to control this territory, and would much rather have Jews there.
The idea that the Muslims are a bigger threat to us than the Jews is a rather neo-conish view.
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How about 101 reasons to vote for Ron Paul?
101 reasons to vote for Ron Paul in 2012
1. He Supports the Constitution. (Wow Go Figure!)
2. He Believes In Religious Freedom.
3. He Has Never Voted For A Tax Increase.
4. He Is Against Public Funding Of Abortion.
5. He Is Against Funding Abortion Abroad.
6. He Is Against The National I.D. or Real I.D. Act.
7. He Believes In The "Just War Theory".
8. He Supports The Rights Of Private Property Owners.
9. He Wants Us Out Of The U.N.
10. He Wants Us To Trade With Nations And Not War With Them.
11. He Is For 2nd Amendment Rights.
12. He Opposes NAIS.
13. He Wants To Shrink The Federal Government, Not Expand It.
14. He Has No Plans To Start A War With Iran Or Anyone Else.
15. He Wants To Bring Our Troops Home.
16. He Does Not Belong To The CFR (Council On Foreign Relations).
17. He Has Not Received Campaign Contributions From Rupert Murdoch
(Like Hillary).
18. His Running Mate Most Likely Will Not Have Shot Anyone In The Face.
19. He Wants To End The I.R.S..
20. He Wants To Cut Spending?? Really, Cut Spending.
21. He Is Against Eminent Domain.
22. He Is Against The NAFTA Superhighway.
23. He Is Against The North American Union Or SPP (It Exists Google It).
24. He Is For The Principle Of Sound Money.
25. He Is Against The Idea of The Amero (Google It).
26. He Is Against The Federal Reserve's Monopoly On Monetary Regulation.
27. He Is Philosophically Opposed To Big Government.
28. He Voted Against The Misnamed Patriot Act That Stripped Us Of Our Rights.
29. He Is For The Bill Of Rights.
30. He Knows The Meaning Of Liberty.
31. He Was 1 Of 4 People That Supported Reagan Early On.
32. He Has Been Married For 50 Years, Which Is An Achievement These Days.
33. He Is Not Married To Hillary.
34. His Supporters Love Him.
35. He Is A Once In A Lifetime Candidate.
36. Because His Record Is Consistent.
37. He Is Against Funding The So-Called War On Drugs (Another Unsuccessful War).
38. He Is Actually Against Funding Many Unsuccessful Federal Programs.
39. He Does Not Want To Ruin Healthcare By Nationalizing It, (LikeHillary, Obama, et al.)
40. He Is A Student Of History.
41. He Votes In Accordance With The Constitution.
42. He Will Not Forcibly Implant Us Or Our Troops With Microchips Or
Like Devices (It's For Your Safety, Of Course).
43. He Is The Only Conservative, In The Traditional Sense, Left.
44. Republicans Love Him Because He Is For Small Government.
45. Democrats Love Him Because He Will End The War For Oil.
46. Libertarians Love Him Because He Wants The Government Out Of Their Business.
47. He Is The Only Electable Republican Candidate.
48. He is Against The Creation Of A Surveillance Society (See London).
49. He Supports Homeschool Rights.
50. He Wants To End The Corporate Welfare System That Is Destroying
Our Government's Credibility.
51. He Tells It Like It Is. He Is Truthful.
52. He Reads.
53. As A Doctor, He Is Informed On The Healthcare Issue.
54. He Has Not Been Hannitized.
55. He Has The Courage To Speak Out Against What Is Wrong.
56. He Will Be Good For The Economy (Freedom Generally Is Good For
The Economy).
57. He Wants Us Out Of The WTO And Like Organizations.
58. The I.R.S. Is Scared Of This Guy.
59. He Is Smart Enough To Prefer Gold Over Paper.
60. He Knows The Term FIAT-CURRENCY and knows what it means.
61. He Wants To Secure Our Borders.
62. He Favors Guarding Our Country Over Policing The World.
63. He Opposed The War In Iraq >From The Beginning.
64. He Authorized The Hunt For Osama Bin Laden.
65. He Believes Local Governments Are Better Suited To Handle Their Own Issues.
66. He Is Willing To Listen And Reason With Others.
67. He Is A Christian Who Believes Christ Was Right When He Said,
"Blessed Are The Peacemakers".
68. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
69. He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
70. He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
71. He has never taken a government-paid junket.
72. He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
73. He voted against regulating the Internet.
74. He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
75. He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to
the U.S. treasury every year.
76. He Is Against Selective Service Registration.
77. He Is Against A Mandatory Draft.
78. He Is Still Not Married To Hillary.
79. He Has The Support Of The Youth.
80. His Campaign Has People Across The Country Motivated.
81. His Supporters Are Enthusiastic.
82. He Is Educated.
83. He Wants To Apply The Golden Rule In Government (How Radical).
84. He Believes in Freedom Of Speech.
85. He Believes In Individual Rights
86. He Believes Those Rights Come From Our Creator.
87. He Does Not "Move With The Herd".
88. He Has Delivered Over 4,000 Babies And Values Life.
89. He Doesn't Have To "Act The Part" Because He Is What He Is.
90. He Has Not Waffled On The Abortion Issue As Every Other
Republican Candidate.
91. He Has Faced Tremendous Opposition With Dignity.
92. He Is Optimistic
93. He Values The Traditions That Have Kept Us Free.
94. He Understands That Monopolies Are Bad Things.
95. He Understands The Difference Between Individual And Government
Responsibility.
96. He Understands Inflation Is Not Just The Prices Going Up, But
Rather The Value Of Money Going Down.
97. You Will Feel Good About Your Vote For A Change.
98. You Will Know You Have Done The Right Thing.
99. For The First Time In A Long Time, You Will Not Be Voting "For The Least Worst".
100. You Will Help Undo The Damage Done To Our Country Over The Last
Several Decades.
101. He Is Our Last Hope For A Free Nation.
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I am not sure of what conspiracy theories you have been subjecting yourself to. I would say if the Vatican were to support Israel in any kind of conflict...it would be because we are protecting Holy Land. We would not want the Muslims to control this territory, and would much rather have Jews there.
The idea that the Muslims are a bigger threat to us than the Jews is a rather neo-conish view.
Well, I see what you are saying. There is no telling how many Jews hold that Zionist mindset. This is all new to me so I have no idea how big this Zionist movement is. If we were able to tell then we both might come to an accurate conclusion. But yeah Zionism is no different than what Muslims are trying to do with Sharia Law.
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I am not sure of what conspiracy theories you have been subjecting yourself to. I would say if the Vatican were to support Israel in any kind of conflict...it would be because we are protecting Holy Land. We would not want the Muslims to control this territory, and would much rather have Jews there.
The idea that the Muslims are a bigger threat to us than the Jews is a rather neo-conish view.
At the same time...you are voting for a Protestant...which under your logic...is no different than any Jew or Muslim.
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At the same time...you are voting for a Protestant...which under your logic...is no different than any Jew or Muslim.
Voting for a Novus Ordite who cheated on his wife twice (Gingrich) and one who supports unjust wars (Santorum) is essentially the same. Ron Paul is more Catholic than either Gingrich or Santorum.
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At the same time...you are voting for a Protestant...which under your logic...is no different than any Jew or Muslim.
Voting for a Novus Ordite who cheated on his wife twice (Gingrich) and one who supports unjust wars (Santorum) is essentially the same. Ron Paul is more Catholic than either Gingrich or Santorum.
I disagree.
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Fine, but you don't think Paul's stance on war is more Catholic than the other two's?
There is no such thing as a perfect candidate, but Ron Paul is the only one who will save us from the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.
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Fine, but you don't think Paul's stance on war is more Catholic than the other two's?
There is no such thing as a perfect candidate, but Ron Paul is the only one who will save us from the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr.
Ron Paul would be my number 2 pick. Santorum number 1. Either way I would be happy. There is an issue, that I am not going to discuss publicly, that I like both of their stances on, and I think that particular issue is one of the most important issues in our country right now. I do think Santorum's way of handling the issue is best.
Ron Paul is a Libertarian Conservative which I like about him (and I know a lot of you probably don't like that). Santorum is against the Libertarian movement within the Republican Party. If anything, I would much rather have a Catholic who is authortarian in charge of me than any other authoritarian out there. I personally can't stand authoritarians (especially the liberal ones). But because Santorum is Catholic I will be able to deal with it.
I would have to look into this unjust war thing. I am not sure how Santorum is unjust....unless you are saying the war on terror is an unjust war. We were able to subdue Osama Bin Laden, in the war on terror, and I think that the world is a much better place without him.
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Not sure what you mean by preventive war.
Going to war in the absence of aggression or immanent threat.
Do you have a source for what you are saying about that and targeted killings?
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-27/politics/30327433_1_nuclear-program-iranian-scientists-russian-scientists
I agree with this only because I support anything that oppresses Sharia Law.
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Not sure what you mean by preventive war.
Going to war in the absence of aggression or immanent threat.
Do you have a source for what you are saying about that and targeted killings?
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-10-27/politics/30327433_1_nuclear-program-iranian-scientists-russian-scientists
I agree with this only because I support anything that oppresses Sharia Law.
Plus do you really think that the Iranians are being truthful about their Nuclear program? Many people think they aren't...and because they aren't they should expect their scientists to come up missing and so forth.
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SS,
The list of reasons to support Paul was interesting. Aside from the points that are obviously in jest, I found I only firmly disagreed with one of them. There were several I don't really know anything about, and there was one I can only conditionally support. (His VP will most likely not have shot anyone in the face.) Whether that was a positive or a negative could hinge on WHO he shot in the face.
:wink:
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There's no issue to me regarding Catholics who support Paul. I only dispute the, in my opinion, false characterization of Santorum. Specifically, I deny he "wouldn't hesitate to go to war with Iran for Israel's sake."
Alaric,
How does Santorum know what "most" Iranians want? Who made him an authority of what is good for Iran and it's people?
Among other things, the very reason he just mentioned. That several of them have taken to the streets in protest, some of whom have been killed. He also does have credibility on this issue because he warned of it long ago, and this situation could have been avoided. Obama only imposed sanctions after Congress forced him to, and after fighting it tooth and nail.
Why are we even to be involved in the middle of Persian politics, isn't that what got us into trouble in Tehran years ago with the Shah, Khomeini and the hostages and all that?
Non-interventionism, if it ever was an option, is at least not an option when a possible nuclear power is concerned. It also would provide the immunity to carry out the kind of proxy attacks Iran has long freely carried out, culminating lately in the attempted assasination of the Saudi ambassador.
Iran is not the former Soviet Union, communism days were numbered from the beginning
What? Weakness in the face of the Soviet Union would have been catastrophic for the world and for both sides. Dictatorships prey on weakness. It was "peace through strength", and it was standing up to the Communist bloc that emboldened those who stood up against the Soviets.
Iran is a theocracy with a fanatical Islamic support base that will not be easily manipulated from within and Amadinejad is not Saddam Hussein or even OBL, he has vast support from surrounding Shiite Muslims as well as a working relationship with the Russia and the Chinese, capitulating Iran will be a tall order.
All the more reason it will take even more strength to deter them from pursuing an aggressive agenda. Especially in the face of a weak president who lacks the strength to do what is necessary, precisely for the sake of peace.
A strong president may have prevented the situation from what it is, but a stupid one that is more concerned about what's good for Israel than the United States will be a real disaster from which we might not recover.
I respectfully disagree. Santorum is not more concerned with what is good for Israel than the United States. He warned of the destabilizing of both Syria and Iran when pretty much everyone looked the other way, and is rather concerned about US interests in the region.
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Rick Santorum was the very one who claimed there is no Palestine nor Palestinian people. He is a Zionist and also Newt Gingrich claimed the Palestinians are an "invented people".
The Bible mentions Palestine as a land of " milk and honey". It is not the "barren desert" as the Israelis claim it is.
Golda Meir, a former Israeli Prime Minister stated "There are no Palestinians; they never existed".
Compare this to Santorum. He is nothing other than a Zionist stooge for Israel. Many claim Biblical sanction for their domination of Palestine even seeking to make God an accomplice to their crime.
Zionists have rallied the support of Britain and America by presenting themselves as guardians of Western interests in the Middle East.
What Herzl and others were about was/is the colonisation of Palestine.
In America, Zionists have been active in "ecuмenical" movements and "ʝʊdɛօ-Christian" groups with the intention of rallying well meaning but unthinking Christians and clergy into backing the Zionist cause for these "Chosen People"
Ben Gurion noted the influence of Jewry in the the United States.
Ben Gurion famously said "those who don't flee our terror, our Jєωιѕн terror will become our wood cutters and waiters".
Zionism and International Jewry are not the friends of a Catholic Counter Power.
Palestine belongs to the Palestinians as does France belong to the French.
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Just for reference, St.Thomas on the Catholic doctrine of Just War, with citations from St.Augustine.
On the contrary, Augustine says in a sermon on the son of the centurion [Ep. ad Marcel. cxxxviii]: "If the Christian Religion forbade war altogether, those who sought salutary advice in the Gospel would rather have been counselled to cast aside their arms, and to give up soldiering altogether. On the contrary, they were told: 'Do violence to no man . . . and be content with your pay' . If he commanded them to be content with their pay, he did not forbid soldiering."
I answer that, In order for a war to be just, three things are necessary. First, the authority of the sovereign by whose command the war is to be waged. For it is not the business of a private individual to declare war, because he can seek for redress of his rights from the tribunal of his superior. Moreover it is not the business of a private individual to summon together the people, which has to be done in wartime. And as the care of the common weal is committed to those who are in authority, it is their business to watch over the common weal of the city, kingdom or province subject to them.
And just as it is lawful for them to have recourse to the sword in defending that common weal against internal disturbances, when they punish evil-doers, according to the words of the Apostle (Romans 13:4): "He beareth not the sword in vain: for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath upon him that doth evil"; so too, it is their business to have recourse to the sword of war in defending the common weal against external enemies. Hence it is said to those who are in authority (Psalm 81:4): "Rescue the poor: and deliver the needy out of the hand of the sinner"; and for this reason Augustine says (Contra Faust. xxii, 75): "The natural order conducive to peace among mortals demands that the power to declare and counsel war should be in the hands of those who hold the supreme authority."
Secondly, a just cause is required, namely that those who are attacked, should be attacked because they deserve it on account of some fault. Wherefore Augustine says (QQ. in Hept., qu. x, super Jos.): "A just war is wont to be described as one that avenges wrongs, when a nation or state has to be punished, for refusing to make amends for the wrongs inflicted by its subjects, or to restore what it has seized unjustly."
Thirdly, it is necessary that the belligerents should have a rightful intention, so that they intend the advancement of good, or the avoidance of evil. Hence Augustine says (De Verb. Dom ... Can. Apud. Caus. xxiii, qu. 1): "True religion looks upon as peaceful those wars that are waged not for motives of aggrandizement, or cruelty, but with the object of securing peace, of punishing evil-doers, and of uplifting the good." For it may happen that the war is declared by the legitimate authority, and for a just cause, and yet be rendered unlawful through a wicked intention. Hence Augustine says (Contra Faust. xxii, 74): "The passion for inflicting harm, the cruel thirst for vengeance, an unpacific and relentless spirit, the fever of revolt, the lust of power, and such like things, all these are rightly condemned in war."
As Augustine says (Contra Faust. xxii, 70): "To take the sword is to arm oneself in order to take the life of anyone, without the command or permission of superior or lawful authority." On the other hand, to have recourse to the sword (as a private person) by the authority of the sovereign or judge, or (as a public person) through zeal for justice, and by the authority, so to speak, of God, is not to "take the sword," but to use it as commissioned by another, wherefore it does not deserve punishment. And yet even those who make sinful use of the sword are not always slain with the sword, yet they always perish with their own sword, because, unless they repent, they are punished eternally for their sinful use of the sword.
Such like precepts, as Augustine observes (De Serm. Dom. in Monte i, 19), should always be borne in readiness of mind, so that we be ready to obey them, and, if necessary, to refrain from resistance or self-defense. Nevertheless it is necessary sometimes for a man to act otherwise for the common good, or for the good of those with whom he is fighting. Hence Augustine says (Ep. ad Marcellin. cxxxviii): "Those whom we have to punish with a kindly severity, it is necessary to handle in many ways against their will. For when we are stripping a man of the lawlessness of sin, it is good for him to be vanquished, since nothing is more hopeless than the happiness of sinners, whence arises a guilty impunity, and an evil will, like an internal enemy."
Those who wage war justly aim at peace, and so they are not opposed to peace, except to the evil peace, which Our Lord "came not to send upon earth" (Matthew 10:34). Hence Augustine says (Ep. ad Bonif. clxxxix): "We do not seek peace in order to be at war, but we go to war that we may have peace. Be peaceful, therefore, in warring, so that you may vanquish those whom you war against, and bring them to the prosperity of peace."
Manly exercises in warlike feats of arms are not all forbidden, but those which are inordinate and perilous, and end in slaying or plundering.
And by the way, I am well aware that theological Zionism is an error, even a heresy. I do not support the Jews in the slightest.
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There's no issue to me regarding Catholics who support Paul. I only dispute the, in my opinion, false characterization of Santorum. Specifically, I deny he "wouldn't hesitate to go to war with Iran for Israel's sake."
Alaric,
How does Santorum know what "most" Iranians want? Who made him an authority of what is good for Iran and it's people?
Among other things, the very reason he just mentioned. That several of them have taken to the streets in protest, some of whom have been killed. He also does have credibility on this issue because he warned of it long ago, and this situation could have been avoided. Obama only imposed sanctions after Congress forced him to, and after fighting it tooth and nail.
Why are we even to be involved in the middle of Persian politics, isn't that what got us into trouble in Tehran years ago with the Shah, Khomeini and the hostages and all that?
Non-interventionism, if it ever was an option, is at least not an option when a possible nuclear power is concerned. It also would provide the immunity to carry out the kind of proxy attacks Iran has long freely carried out, culminating lately in the attempted assasination of the Saudi ambassador.
Iran is not the former Soviet Union, communism days were numbered from the beginning
What? Weakness in the face of the Soviet Union would have been catastrophic for the world and for both sides. Dictatorships prey on weakness. It was "peace through strength", and it was standing up to the Communist bloc that emboldened those who stood up against the Soviets.
Iran is a theocracy with a fanatical Islamic support base that will not be easily manipulated from within and Amadinejad is not Saddam Hussein or even OBL, he has vast support from surrounding Shiite Muslims as well as a working relationship with the Russia and the Chinese, capitulating Iran will be a tall order.
All the more reason it will take even more strength to deter them from pursuing an aggressive agenda. Especially in the face of a weak president who lacks the strength to do what is necessary, precisely for the sake of peace.
A strong president may have prevented the situation from what it is, but a stupid one that is more concerned about what's good for Israel than the United States will be a real disaster from which we might not recover.
I respectfully disagree. Santorum is not more concerned with what is good for Israel than the United States. He warned of the destabilizing of both Syria and Iran when pretty much everyone looked the other way, and is rather concerned about US interests in the region.
It is not a false characterisation of Santorum. He is a stooge for Israel. A Neo Con. What do you mean about "US interests in the region?"
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Plus do you really think that the Iranians are being truthful about their Nuclear program? Many people think they aren't...and because they aren't they should expect their scientists to come up missing and so forth.
I'm sorry, are you saying that it's OK to kill civilians (nuclear scientists are civilians) in order to derail Iran's nuclear program?
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Plus do you really think that the Iranians are being truthful about their Nuclear program? Many people think they aren't...and because they aren't they should expect their scientists to come up missing and so forth.
I'm sorry, are you saying that it's OK to kill civilians (nuclear scientists are civilians) in order to derail Iran's nuclear program?
I was just saying that Iran is doing the wrong thing and they are not being truthful about it. Because of this, it makes sense as to why their scientists would be killed. And I certainly don't want Iran to become too powerful by developing Nuclear weapons.
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Rick Santorum was the very one who claimed there is no Palestine nor Palestinian people. He is a Zionist and also Newt Gingrich claimed the Palestinians are an "invented people".
The Bible mentions Palestine as a land of " milk and honey". It is not the "barren desert" as the Israelis claim it is.
Golda Meir, a former Israeli Prime Minister stated "There are no Palestinians; they never existed".
Compare this to Santorum. He is nothing other than a Zionist stooge for Israel. Many claim Biblical sanction for their domination of Palestine even seeking to make God an accomplice to their crime.
Zionists have rallied the support of Britain and America by presenting themselves as guardians of Western interests in the Middle East.
What Herzl and others were about was/is the colonisation of Palestine.
In America, Zionists have been active in "ecuмenical" movements and "ʝʊdɛօ-Christian" groups with the intention of rallying well meaning but unthinking Christians and clergy into backing the Zionist cause for these "Chosen People"
Ben Gurion noted the influence of Jewry in the the United States.
Ben Gurion famously said "those who don't flee our terror, our Jєωιѕн terror will become our wood cutters and waiters".
Zionism and International Jewry are not the friends of a Catholic Counter Power.
Palestine belongs to the Palestinians as does France belong to the French.
So do you support Ron Paul too?
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I respectfully disagree. Santorum is not more concerned with what is good for Israel than the United States. He warned of the destabilizing of both Syria and Iran when pretty much everyone looked the other way, and is rather concerned about US interests in the region.
So you concede that Zionism is wrong, but why then do you continue to support a man who holds the neo-con idea that Muslims are a bigger threat to us than Jews? And did you read anything I posted yesterday? About how the Church condemned all of these wars as unjust, about how Santorum's stance on war is un-Catholic according to an FSSP priest, and the protocol of the Zionists where they say they are for universal war? How can you support Santorum after reading all that?
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I respectfully disagree. Santorum is not more concerned with what is good for Israel than the United States. He warned of the destabilizing of both Syria and Iran when pretty much everyone looked the other way, and is rather concerned about US interests in the region.
So you concede that Zionism is wrong, but why then do you continue to support a man who holds the neo-con idea that Muslims are a bigger threat to us than Jews? And did you read anything I posted yesterday? About how the Church condemned all of these wars as unjust, about how Santorum's stance on war is un-Catholic according to an FSSP priest, and the protocol of the Zionists where they say they are for universal war? How can you support Santorum after reading all that?
Do you think we should be oppressing Muslims in order to prevent the spread of Sharia Law?
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Because of this, it makes sense as to why their scientists would be killed.
By "makes sense," do you mean that you think it is morally justified?
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I am far more worried about Halacha than Sharia.
Especially when "Catholics" are promoting тαℓмυdic influence in US law.
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2009/06/justice-scalia-cites-тαℓмυd-exegesis-by.html
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/11/disabuse-yourself-of-disinformation.html
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2007/11/тαℓмυdic-court-clerks-predominate-under.html
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2008/05/conservative-catholic-justice-antonin.html
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2009/01/тαℓмυd-and-conservative-supreme-court.html
"Conservative Catholic" Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia Studies тαℓмυd with Chabad Lubavitch Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/11/conservative-catholic-supreme-court.html
"The Jєωιѕн Week reported that Scalia is fascinated with тαℓмυdic law and is involved in the launch of a тαℓмυdic law institute in Washington D.C. with Nathan Lewin, Alan Dershowitz and Noson Gurary, a Chabad Lubavitch rabbi." http://web.archive.org/web/20061120072230/...php3?artid=7074
Jєωιѕн Law Comes to D.C.
James D. Besser, The Jєωιѕн Week, 12/6/2002
http://web.archive.org/web/20061120072230/http://www.theJєωιѕнweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=7074
Justice Challenges Privacy Rights at тαℓмυdic Conference
by Yosef Lewis, Chabad.org News 1/30/09
http://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/824416/Jєωιѕн/Justice-Challenges-Privacy-Rights.htm
and then there is his son, the Novus Ordo presider: Scalia "Traditionalism"
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/12/scalia-traditionalism.html
Scalia’s affiliation with the Chabad Lubavitchers is an outrage.
Not familiar with Chabad or their “Messiah,” the LATE Rabbi Schneerson?
Start here:
"... the explanation of the matter, [is to be found] in light of what Rabbi Chayim Vital wrote in Shaar HaKedushah (and in Etz Chayim, Portal 5, ch. 2) — that every Jew, whether righteous or wicked, possesses two souls, as it is written, “And neshamot (souls) which I have made. ... The second, uniquely Jєωιѕн, soul is truly “a part of G-d above, The souls of the nations of the world (the Gentiles), however, emanate from the other, unclean kelipot which contain no good whatever, as is written in Etz Chayim, Portal 40, ch. 3, that all the good that (Gentiles) do, is done out of selfish motives. So the Gemara comments on the verse, “The kindness of (Gentiles) is sin” — that all the charity and kindness done by (Gentiles) of the world is only for their self-glorification..." (Chapters 1 and 2) The lower category consists of three completely unclean and evil kelipot, containing no good whatever... From them flow and are derived the souls of all the nations of the world (Gentiles), and the sustaining force of their bodies. Also derived from these kelipot are the souls of all living creatures that are unclean and forbidden to be eaten, and the sustaining force of their bodies." Tanya, Chapter 6
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/7880/Jєωιѕн/Chapter-1.htm
And here:
“The highly revered Rabbi Menachem Mandel Schneerson, who headed the Chabad movement and wielded great influence in Israel as well [and proclaimed himself messiah], explained that 'The difference between a Jєωιѕн and a non-Jєωιѕн person stems from the common expression: 'Let us differentiate.' Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather we have a case of 'let us differentiate' between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jєωιѕн person is of a totally different quality from the body of all nations of the world.'" Allan C. Brownfield, "It Is Time to Confront the Exclusionary Ethnocentrism," Issues of the American Council for Judaism, Winter 2000
Chabad’s rabbis discuss Maimonides’ advice on killing Gentiles:
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/7ab984ab464622535f2770556e1388f6.jpg
Scroll down to the Commentary on Halacha 1:
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/912369/Jєωιѕн/Chapter-Ten.htm
Here are the plans for your re-education:
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/142887/Jєωιѕн/Education-Day-USA.htm
Equally an outrage is Scalia’s affiliation with the Kabbalist Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, the Nasi of the Sanhedrin, THE MAN WHO FILLS CAIPHAS’ SHOES TODAY:
http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php/The_Re-established_Jєωιѕн_Sanhedrin
http://www.steinsaltz.org/content.php?pg=Introduction&ID=65
Remember, Santorum supported the тαℓмυdic Judaic Senator Arlen Specter. Santorum could have thrown his support to Toomey, a truly pro-life... er , well, Novus Ordo—never mind, I guess a тαℓмυdic Judaic is the same as a Novus Ordo "Catholic, no difference. :fryingpan:
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I am far more worried about Halacha than Sharia.
Especially when "Catholics" are promoting тαℓмυdic influence in US law.
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2009/06/justice-scalia-cites-тαℓмυd-exegesis-by.html
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/11/disabuse-yourself-of-disinformation.html
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2007/11/тαℓмυdic-court-clerks-predominate-under.html
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2008/05/conservative-catholic-justice-antonin.html
http://revisionistreview.blogspot.com/2009/01/тαℓмυd-and-conservative-supreme-court.html
"Conservative Catholic" Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia Studies тαℓмυd with Chabad Lubavitch Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/11/conservative-catholic-supreme-court.html
"The Jєωιѕн Week reported that Scalia is fascinated with тαℓмυdic law and is involved in the launch of a тαℓмυdic law institute in Washington D.C. with Nathan Lewin, Alan Dershowitz and Noson Gurary, a Chabad Lubavitch rabbi." http://web.archive.org/web/20061120072230/...php3?artid=7074
Jєωιѕн Law Comes to D.C.
James D. Besser, The Jєωιѕн Week, 12/6/2002
http://web.archive.org/web/20061120072230/http://www.theJєωιѕнweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=7074
Justice Challenges Privacy Rights at тαℓмυdic Conference
by Yosef Lewis, Chabad.org News 1/30/09
http://www.chabad.org/news/article_cdo/aid/824416/Jєωιѕн/Justice-Challenges-Privacy-Rights.htm
and then there is his son, the Novus Ordo presider: Scalia "Traditionalism"
http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/12/scalia-traditionalism.html
Scalia’s affiliation with the Chabad Lubavitchers is an outrage.
Not familiar with Chabad or their “Messiah,” the LATE Rabbi Schneerson?
Start here:
"... the explanation of the matter, [is to be found] in light of what Rabbi Chayim Vital wrote in Shaar HaKedushah (and in Etz Chayim, Portal 5, ch. 2) — that every Jew, whether righteous or wicked, possesses two souls, as it is written, “And neshamot (souls) which I have made. ... The second, uniquely Jєωιѕн, soul is truly “a part of G-d above, The souls of the nations of the world (the Gentiles), however, emanate from the other, unclean kelipot which contain no good whatever, as is written in Etz Chayim, Portal 40, ch. 3, that all the good that (Gentiles) do, is done out of selfish motives. So the Gemara comments on the verse, “The kindness of (Gentiles) is sin” — that all the charity and kindness done by (Gentiles) of the world is only for their self-glorification..." (Chapters 1 and 2) The lower category consists of three completely unclean and evil kelipot, containing no good whatever... From them flow and are derived the souls of all the nations of the world (Gentiles), and the sustaining force of their bodies. Also derived from these kelipot are the souls of all living creatures that are unclean and forbidden to be eaten, and the sustaining force of their bodies." Tanya, Chapter 6
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/7880/Jєωιѕн/Chapter-1.htm
And here:
“The highly revered Rabbi Menachem Mandel Schneerson, who headed the Chabad movement and wielded great influence in Israel as well [and proclaimed himself messiah], explained that 'The difference between a Jєωιѕн and a non-Jєωιѕн person stems from the common expression: 'Let us differentiate.' Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather we have a case of 'let us differentiate' between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jєωιѕн person is of a totally different quality from the body of all nations of the world.'" Allan C. Brownfield, "It Is Time to Confront the Exclusionary Ethnocentrism," Issues of the American Council for Judaism, Winter 2000
Chabad’s rabbis discuss Maimonides’ advice on killing Gentiles:
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/7ab984ab464622535f2770556e1388f6.jpg
Scroll down to the Commentary on Halacha 1:
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/912369/Jєωιѕн/Chapter-Ten.htm
Here are the plans for your re-education:
http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/142887/Jєωιѕн/Education-Day-USA.htm
Equally an outrage is Scalia’s affiliation with the Kabbalist Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz, the Nasi of the Sanhedrin, THE MAN WHO FILLS CAIPHAS’ SHOES TODAY:
http://www.thesanhedrin.org/en/index.php/The_Re-established_Jєωιѕн_Sanhedrin
http://www.steinsaltz.org/content.php?pg=Introduction&ID=65
Remember, Santorum supported the тαℓмυdic Judaic Senator Arlen Specter. Santorum could have thrown his support to Toomey, a truly pro-life... er , well, Novus Ordo—never mind, I guess a тαℓмυdic Judaic is the same as a Novus Ordo "Catholic, no difference. :fryingpan:
You say this but yet you would not be willing to show any evidence of how large zionism is. I can, however, show you how large Sharia Law is.
You keep pointing to this huge threat known as zionism or "Halacha" but you don't even know how large this threat is.
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Because of this, it makes sense as to why their scientists would be killed.
By "makes sense," do you mean that you think it is morally justified?
No, but if we do not oppress Islam then Islam will attempt to take over things. Are you against oppressing Islam? I think by oppressing Islam in the west we are protecting the Pillar and Foundation of Truth. Theres so many Catholics out there that don't know enough about the Faith to the point where they may convert to Islam. Islam is like cancer.
I am not hurt by Iranian scientists coming up missing or dead. I personally would never order an assassination or anything, but I wouldn't be afraid to go to war with Islam either. Iranian scientists who are illegally developing nuclear weapons are bringing this upon themselves. Its the risk they are willing to take, and now they know what may happen to them.
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I took a business law course about a year ago, and we learned that American law is based on British common law. I'm not sure why one your articles is saying that it came from Jєωιѕн law.
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Because of this, it makes sense as to why their scientists would be killed.
By "makes sense," do you mean that you think it is morally justified?
No
Stop right there, that is all I need to know. :-) If it isn't morally justified, then one shouldn't support it.
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LOL....i just looked it up and found that there are only 13.5 million Jews in the world. Give me a break...you people are acting as though this Zionism garbage is just as much of a threat as Sharia Law.
There are more than 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, and Sharia law is spreading throughout the middle east like wildfire. 13.5 million Jews are no match to 1.6 Billion Muslims, and the jews are in no position to successfully implement this zionist stuff in America or Europe. I would bet everything I own on that.
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Because of this, it makes sense as to why their scientists would be killed.
By "makes sense," do you mean that you think it is morally justified?
No
Stop right there, that is all I need to know. :-) If it isn't morally justified, then one shouldn't support it.
It seems to me like you support equal rights for muslims. What do you think about giving them a fair chance in the American congress?
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Nishant,
"Among other things, the very reason he just mentioned. That several of them have taken to the streets in protest, some of whom have been killed. He also does have credibility on this issue because he warned of it long ago, and this situation could have been avoided. Obama only imposed sanctions after Congress forced him to, and after fighting it tooth and nail. "
This proves nothing much less some kind of "revolution" going on in Iran, there were some protests a few years ago that became quite violent on both sides due in part to the protesters who were emboldened and probably financed by Western and Israeli influences, backing the "Persian Awakening" in an attempt to overthrow the Ahmadinejad regime during a disputed election.
We also have had some major protests here in America as of late if you haven't noticed lately, some became quite violent as well, but I don't see the need of another major superpower sticking their noses in our affairs, this kind of intervention has a way of unifying a people against the alien meddler instead of the opposite effect.
Also just what is Santorum's "credibility" on Iranian internal affairs? Again, who made him an authority on whats good for Iran?
And as opposed as I am of just about everything Obama, I have to give him some credit for not taking the bait and going to war with a nation that has done or said nothing to justify another pre-emptive strike because it "might" be producing WMD's.
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Nishant,
"Non-interventionism, if it ever was an option, is at least not an option when a possible nuclear power is concerned. It also would provide the immunity to carry out the kind of proxy attacks Iran has long freely carried out, culminating lately in the attempted assasination of the Saudi ambassador"
So are we to take out any and all nations capable of developing nukes that might be a concieved "threat" to American (See Israeli) interests? Where does that leave us with Pakistan? Or China? North Korea? Where do we keep going with this?
And proxy attacks? Where? Iran is pretty much pinned down right now fighting for it's economic life thanks to sanctions and Obama refusing American banks to do business with it, if the Iranians are "attacking" it's pretty much in self defense mode or survival, what would the U.S. do in the same situation? Oh but there is a nation carrying out many proxy attacks right now, you can bet on it.
And the so-called Saudi ambassador assassination attempt (using the Mexican drug cartel nonetheless), you can't be serious that you buy into that little dog and pony show, everyone and I mean everyone knows that was a ruse
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LOL....i just looked it up and found that there are only 13.5 million Jews in the world. Give me a break...you people are acting as though this Zionism garbage is just as much of a threat as Sharia Law.
There are more than 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, and Sharia law is spreading throughout the middle east like wildfire. 13.5 million Jews are no match to 1.6 Billion Muslims, and the jews are in no position to successfully implement this zionist stuff in America or Europe. I would bet everything I own on that.
The protocols I posted are proof that Zionism is more dangerous. The Church's stance before Vatican II was that the Jews are more dangerous to the Church than any other religion.
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LOL....i just looked it up and found that there are only 13.5 million Jews in the world. Give me a break...you people are acting as though this Zionism garbage is just as much of a threat as Sharia Law.
There are more than 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, and Sharia law is spreading throughout the middle east like wildfire. 13.5 million Jews are no match to 1.6 Billion Muslims, and the jews are in no position to successfully implement this zionist stuff in America or Europe. I would bet everything I own on that.
The protocols I posted are proof that Zionism is more dangerous. The Church's stance before Vatican II was that the Jews are more dangerous to the Church than any other religion.
Maybe if the number of Jєωιѕн followers increased dramatically...which yeah I agree will happen closer to the time of the Antichrist. But the Antichrist will come probably around 500 years from now. While the potential may be there, I think that in this day and age, the Jews are not as much of a threat as the Muslims.
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Maybe if the number of Jєωιѕн followers increased dramatically...which yeah I agree will happen closer to the time of the Antichrist. But the Antichrist will come probably around 500 years from now. While the potential may be there, I think that in this day and age, the Jews are not as much of a threat as the Muslims.
If you understand what the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is, you will also understand that the Jєωιѕн Masons are a bigger threat not only to the Catholic Church, but to the whole world, more-so than the Muslims could ever hope to be.
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For Nish and IF.
TEHRAN—Amidst mounting geopolitical tensions, Iranian officials said Wednesday they were increasingly concerned about the United States of America's uranium-enrichment program, fearing the Western nation may soon be capable of producing its 8,500th nuclear weapon. "Our intelligence estimates indicate that, if it is allowed to progress with its aggressive nuclear program, the United States may soon possess its 8,500th atomic weapon capable of reaching Iran," said Iranian foreign minister Ali Akbar Salehi, adding that Americans have the fuel, the facilities, and "everything they need" to manufacture even more weapons-grade fissile material. "Obviously, the prospect of this happening is very distressing to Iran and all countries like Iran. After all, the United States is a volatile nation that's proven it needs little provocation to attack anyone anywhere in the world whom it perceives to be a threat." Iranian intelligence experts also warned of the very real, and very frightening, possibility of the U.S. providing weapons and resources to a rogue third-party state such as Israel.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/iran-worried-us-might-be-building-8500th-nuclear-w,27325/
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For Nish and IF.
TEHRAN—Amidst mounting geopolitical tensions, Iranian officials said Wednesday they were increasingly concerned about the United States of America's uranium-enrichment program, fearing the Western nation may soon be capable of producing its 8,500th nuclear weapon. "Our intelligence estimates indicate that, if it is allowed to progress with its aggressive nuclear program, the United States may soon possess its 8,500th atomic weapon capable of reaching Iran," said Iranian foreign minister Ali Akbar Salehi, adding that Americans have the fuel, the facilities, and "everything they need" to manufacture even more weapons-grade fissile material. "Obviously, the prospect of this happening is very distressing to Iran and all countries like Iran. After all, the United States is a volatile nation that's proven it needs little provocation to attack anyone anywhere in the world whom it perceives to be a threat." Iranian intelligence experts also warned of the very real, and very frightening, possibility of the U.S. providing weapons and resources to a rogue third-party state such as Israel.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/iran-worried-us-might-be-building-8500th-nuclear-w,27325/
LOL. The only problem with this mockery is that they are not concerned with Russia's nuclear missiles being able to reach Iran. I give them credit for their humor though. Just like how they built toy replicas of the spy plane and handed them out to their citizens as a joke.
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Maybe if the number of Jєωιѕн followers increased dramatically...which yeah I agree will happen closer to the time of the Antichrist. But the Antichrist will come probably around 500 years from now. While the potential may be there, I think that in this day and age, the Jews are not as much of a threat as the Muslims.
If you understand what the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is, you will also understand that the Jєωιѕн Masons are a bigger threat not only to the Catholic Church, but to the whole world, more-so than the Muslims could ever hope to be.
nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr being a one world government right? This is the first I have heard of Judaism being a player in all of that. I am sure the Freemasons are. Even the President of Iran has voiced his opinion that there should be a One World Government. And yes, I agree that if this is to happen (which it is inevitable) then that will mark the time of the Antichrist.
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I'm not a fan of the Dimond Brothers, but they do have a great video about why our votes DO NOT COUNT.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mhfm1#p/u/6/OynCgwmD-HM
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I'm not a fan of the Dimond Brothers, but they do have a great video about why our votes DO NOT COUNT.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mhfm1#p/u/6/OynCgwmD-HM
I haven't watched the entire video, but the Dimond guy is saying that it's imposible to determine a winner using exit polls, because the exit polls only collect 4/10ths of 1 percent of who has been voted for, and that is simply not enough to determine a winner. But Pelley says that Gungrich is projected, not determined, to be the winner. So it's an educated guess.
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I haven't watched the entire video, but the Dimond guy is saying that it's imposible to determine a winner using exit polls, because the exit polls only collect 4/10ths of 1 percent of who has been voted for, and that is simply not enough to determine a winner. But Pelley says that Gungrich is projected, not determined, to be the winner. So it's an educated guess.
You need to watch the whole video to get it. And explain to me how you can project a winner with less than one percent? At the time they projected Gingrich as the winner, Romney was LEADING.
And I don't know if you saw this part of the video or not, but they show that both CBS AND FOX show the same number of people they interviewed in their exit polls (2,831 I believe was the number) out of over 601,000 voters. How can you project the winner after interviewing such a minority?
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I agree with Rick Santorum on the news today, that he PROMISED TO end gαy marriages. I am especially concerned since they just signed into law in my state, the state of Washington, that gαy marriages are legal. Yuk! God have mercy on the state of Washington!
We will never fix the other things till we end gαy marriage and abortion.
I vote for Rick Santorum!
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I vote for Rick Santorum!
His stance on gαy marriage may be Catholic, but his stance on war isn't. Romney and Gingrich both "pledge" to end gαy marriage too. Does that mean we should vote for either of them?
And the video I posted pretty much proves that they will rig the election to make Obama re-elected.
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Your probably right about rigging the election SS, but I will still exercise my right to vote. We must not give up hope.
Who knows if they are right about 2012, we might not even have another President.
Read this, I just received in my email:
<<<In 1887 Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh ,
had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:
"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent
form of government.
A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can
vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the
most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally
collapse over loose fiscal policy, (which is) always followed by a dictatorship."
"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has
been about 200 years.
During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage."
The Obituary follows:
Born 1776, Died 2012
It doesn't hurt to read this several times.
Professor Joseph Olson of Hamline University School of Law in St. Paul , Minnesota ,
points out some interesting facts concerning the last Presidential election:
Number of States won by: Obama: 19 McCain: 29
Square miles of land won by: Obama: 580,000 McCain: 2,427,000
Population of counties won by: Obama: 127 million McCain: 143 million
Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Obama: 13.2 McCain: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory McCain won was
mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country.
Obama territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in low income
tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the
"complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy,
with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached
the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal
invaders called illegal's - and they vote - then we can say goodbye to the
USA in fewer than five years.
Of course we are not a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic .
Someone should point this out to Obama.
Of course we know he and too many others pay little attention to The Constitution.
There couldn't be more at stake than on Nov 2012.>>>
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Your probably right about rigging the election SS, but I will still exercise my right to vote. We must not give up hope.
What's the point of voting if your votes don't count? That's probably why the SSPX usually encourages people not to vote. Also, read this protocol of the Zionists:
PROTOCOL No. 10
1. To-day I begin with a repetition of what I said before, and I BEG YOU TO BEAR IN MIND THAT GOVERNMENTS AND PEOPLE ARE CONTENT IN THE POLITICAL WITH OUTSIDE APPEARANCES. And how, indeed, are the GOYIM to perceive the underlying meaning of things when their representatives give the best of their energies to enjoying themselves? For our policy it is of the greatest importance to take cognizance of this detail; it will be of assistance to us when we come to consider the division of authority of property, of the dwelling, of taxation (the idea of concealed taxes), of the reflex force of the laws. All these questions are such as ought not to be touched upon directly and openly before the people. In cases where it is indispensable to touch upon them they must not be categorically named, it must merely be declared without detailed exposition that the principles of contemporary law are acknowledged by us. The reason of keeping silence in this respect is that by not naming a principle we leave ourselves freedom of action, to drop this or that out of it without attracting notice; if they were all categorically named they would all appear to have been already given.
2. The mob cherishes a special affection and respect for the geniuses of political power and accepts all their deeds of violence with the admiring response: "rascally, well, yes, it is rascally, but it's clever! ... a trick, if you like, but how craftily played, how magnificently done, what impudent audacity!" ...
OUR GOAL - WORLD POWER
3. We count upon attracting all nations to the task of erecting the new fundamental structure, the project for which has been drawn up by us. This is why, before everything, it is indispensable for us to arm ourselves and to store up in ourselves that absolutely reckless audacity and irresistible might of the spirit which in the person of our active workers will break down all hindrances on our way.
4. WHEN WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED OUR COUP D'ETAT WE SHALL SAY THEN TO THE VARIOUS PEOPLES: "EVERYTHING HAS GONE TERRIBLY BADLY, ALL HAVE BEEN WORN OUT WITH SUFFERING. WE ARE DESTROYING THE CAUSES OF YOUR TORMENT - NATIONALITIES, FRONTIERS, DIFFERENCES OF COINAGES. YOU ARE AT LIBERTY, OF COURSE, TO PRONOUNCE SENTENCE UPON US, BUT CAN IT POSSIBLY BE A JUST ONE IF IT IS CONFIRMED BY YOU BEFORE YOU MAKE ANY TRIAL OF WHAT WE ARE OFFERING YOU." ... THEN WILL THE MOB EXALT US AND BEAR US UP IN THEIR HANDS IN A UNANIMOUS TRIUMPH OF HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS. VOTING, WHICH WE HAVE MADE THE INSTRUMENT WHICH WILL SET US ON THE THRONE OF THE WORLD BY TEACHING EVEN THE VERY SMALLEST UNITS OF MEMBERS OF THE HUMAN RACE TO VOTE BY MEANS OF MEETINGS AND AGREEMENTS BY GROUPS, WILL THEN HAVE SERVED ITS PURPOSES AND WILL PLAY ITS PART THEN FOR THE LAST TIME BY A UNANIMITY OF DESIRE TO MAKE CLOSE ACQUAINTANCE WITH US BEFORE CONDEMNING US.
5. TO SECURE THIS WE MUST HAVE EVERYBODY VOTE WITHOUT DISTINCTION OF CLASSES AND QUALIFICATIONS, in order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated propertied classes. In this way, by inculcating in all a sense of self-importance, we shall destroy among the GOYIM the importance of the family and its educational value and remove the possibility of individual minds splitting off, for the mob, handled by us, will not let them come to the front nor even give them a hearing; it is accustomed to listen to us only who pay it for obedience and attention. In this way we shall create a blind, mighty force which will never be in a position to move in any direction without the guidance of our agents set at its head by us as leaders of the mob. The people will submit to this regime because it will know that upon these leaders will depend its earnings, gratifications and the receipt of all kinds of benefits.
6. A scheme of government should come ready made from one brain, because it will never be clinched firmly if it is allowed to be split into fractional parts in the minds of many. It is allowable, therefore, for us to have cognizance of the scheme of action but not to discuss it lest we disturb its artfulness, the interdependence of its component parts, the practical force of the secret meaning of each clause. To discuss and make alterations in a labor of this kind by means of numerous votings is to impress upon it the stamp of all ratiocinations and misunderstandings which have failed to penetrate the depth and nexus of its plottings. We want our schemes to be forcible and suitably concocted. Therefore WE OUGHT NOT TO FLING THE WORK OF GENIUS OF OUR GUIDE to the fangs of the mob or even of a select company.
7. These schemes will not turn existing institutions upside down just yet. They will only effect changes in their economy and consequently in the whole combined movement of their progress, which will thus be directed along the paths laid down in our schemes.
POISON OF LIBERALISM
8. Under various names there exists in all countries approximately one and the same thing. Representation, Ministry, Senate, State Council, Legislative and Executive Corps. I need not explain to you the mechanism of the relation of these institutions to one another, because you are aware of all that; only take note of the fact that each of the above-named institutions corresponds to some important function of the State, and I would beg you to remark that the word "important" I apply not to the institution but to the function, consequently it is not the institutions which are important but their functions. These institutions have divided up among themselves all the functions of government - administrative, legislative, executive, wherefore they have come to operate as do the organs in the human body. If we injure one part in the machinery of State, the State falls sick, like a human body, and ... will die.
9. When we introduced into the State organism the poison of Liberalism its whole political complexion underwent a change. States have been seized with a mortal illness - blood poisoning. All that remains is to await the end of their death agony.
10. Liberalism produced Constitutional States, which took the place of what was the only safeguard of the GOYIM, namely, Despotism; and A CONSTITUTION, AS YOU WELL KNOW, IS NOTHING ELSE BUT A SCHOOL OF DISCORDS, misunderstandings, quarrels, disagreements, fruitless party agitations, party whims - in a word, a school of everything that serves to destroy the personality of State activity. THE TRIBUNE OF THE "TALKERIES" HAS, NO LESS EFFECTIVELY THAN THE PRESS, CONDEMNED THE RULERS TO INACTIVITY AND IMPOTENCE, and thereby rendered them useless and superfluous, for which reason indeed they have been in many countries deposed. THEN IT WAS THAT THE ERA OF REPUBLICS BECOME POSSIBLE OF REALIZATION; AND THEN IT WAS THAT WE REPLACED THE RULER BY A CARICATURE OF A GOVERNMENT - BY A PRESIDENT, TAKEN FROM THE MOB, FROM THE MIDST OF OUR PUPPET CREATURES, OR SLAVES. This was the foundation of the mine which we have laid under the GOY people, I should rather say, under the GOY peoples.
WE NAME PRESIDENTS
11. In the near future we shall establish the responsibility of presidents.
12. By that time we shall be in a position to disregard forms in carrying through matters for which our impersonal puppet will be responsible. What do we care if the ranks of those striving for power should be thinned, if there should arise a deadlock from the impossibility of finding presidents, a deadlock which will finally disorganize the country? ...
13. In order that our scheme may produce this result we shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark, undiscovered stain, some "Panama" or other - then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of fear of revelations and from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely, the retention of the privileges, advantages and honor connected with the office of president. The chamber of deputies will provide cover for, will protect, will elect presidents, but we shall take from it the right to propose new, or make changes in existing laws, for this right will be given by us to the responsible president, a puppet in our hands. Naturally, the authority of the presidents will then become a target for every possible form of attack, but we shall provide him with a means of self-defense in the right of an appeal to the people, for the decision of the people over the heads of their representatives, that is to say, an appeal to that same blind slave of ours - the majority of the mob. Independently of this we shall invest the president with the right of declaring a state of war. We shall justify this last right on the ground that the president as chief of the whole army of the country must have it at his disposal, in case of need for the defense of the new republican constitution, the right to defend which will belong to him as the responsible representative of this constitution. (Iran? Grenada? Kuwait? Iraq? Panama? Somalia? Bosnia? Kosovo? Indonesia?)
14. It is easy to understand that in these conditions the key of the shrine will lie in our hands, and no one outside ourselves will any longer direct the force of legislation.
15. Besides this we shall, with the introduction of the new republican constitution, take from the Chamber the right of interpolation on government measures, on the pretext of preserving political secrecy, and, further, we shall by the new constitution reduce the number of representatives to a minimum, thereby proportionately reducing political passions and the passion for politics. If, however, they should, which is hardly to be expected, burst into flame, even in this minimum, we shall nullify them by a stirring appeal and a reference to the majority of the whole people ... Upon the president will depend the appointment of presidents and vice-presidents of the Chamber and the Senate. Instead of constant sessions of Parliaments we shall reduce their sittings to a few months. Moreover, the president, as chief of the executive power, will have the right to summon and dissolve Parliament, and, in the latter case, to prolong the time for the appointment of a new parliamentary assembly. But in order that the consequences of all these acts which in substance are illegal, should not, prematurely for our plans, fall upon the responsibility established by us of the president, WE SHALL INSTIGATE MINISTERS AND OTHER OFFICIALS OF THE HIGHER ADMINISTRATION ABOUT THE PRESIDENT TO EVADE HIS DISPOSITIONS BY TAKING MEASURES OF THEIR OWN, for doing which they will be made the scapegoats in his place ... This part we especially recommend to be given to be played by the Senate, the Council of State, or the Council of Ministers, but not to an individual official.
16. The president will, at our discretion, interpret the sense of such of the existing laws as admit of various interpretation; he will further annul them when we indicate to him the necessity to do so, besides this, he will have the right to propose temporary laws, and even new departures in the government constitutional working, the pretext both for the one and the other being the requirements for the supreme welfare of the State. (Presidential Decrees such as F.D.R. employed to debase the US dollar and steal the gold and to place the U.S. under a permanent State of Emergency and War against its own citizens?)
WE SHALL DESTROY
17. By such measure we shall obtain the power of destroying little by little, step by step, all that at the outset when we enter on our rights, we are compelled to introduce into the constitutions of States to prepare for the transition to an imperceptible abolition of every kind of constitution, and then the time is come to turn every form of government into OUR DESPOTISM.
18. The recognition of our despot may also come before the destruction of the constitution; the moment for this recognition will come when the peoples, utterly wearied by the irregularities and incompetence - a matter which we shall arrange for - of their rulers, will clamor: "Away with them and give us one king over all the earth who will unite us and annihilate the causes of disorders - frontiers, nationalities, religions, State debts - who will give us peace and quiet which we cannot find under our rulers and representatives."
19. But you yourselves perfectly well know that TO PRODUCE THE POSSIBILITY OF THE EXPRESSION OF SUCH WISHES BY ALL THE NATIONS IT IS INDISPENSABLE TO TROUBLE IN ALL COUNTRIES THE PEOPLE'S RELATIONS WITH THEIR GOVERNMENTS SO AS TO UTTERLY EXHAUST HUMANITY WITH DISSENSION, HATRED, STRUGGLE, ENVY AND EVEN BY THE USE OF TORTURE, BY STARVATION, BY THE INOCULATION OF DISEASES, BY WANT, SO THAT THE "GOYIM" SEE NO OTHER ISSUE THAN TO TAKE REFUGE IN OUR COMPLETE SOVEREIGNTY IN MONEY AND IN ALL ELSE.
20. But if we give the nations of the world a breathing space the moment we long for is hardly likely ever to arrive.
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That is another big difference then, because CMRI encourages all to vote.
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I agree with Rick Santorum on the news today, that he PROMISED TO end gαy marriages.
How would he go about doing that?
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If the CMRI encourages people to vote and the SSPX encourages people not to vote, then the CMRI is right on this issue and the SSPX is wrong. One can abstain from voting if all the candidates are unworthy (it doesn't matter if one is more or less unworthy), but that is for a particular office, not an entire ballot. It can't be terribly common that there are no good candidates at all on the whole ballot.
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I agree with Rick Santorum on the news today, that he PROMISED TO end gαy marriages.
How would he go about doing that?
Good question -- it sounds like a modern variation of "Forty acres and a mule!" or "A chicken in every pot!" to me.
If there's no reasonable or feasible way for the President to do this, it's all fluff, if not outright deception.
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I agree with Rick Santorum on the news today, that he PROMISED TO end gαy marriages.
How would he go about doing that?
How did they make it a law in the first place, if they can't undo it?
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How did they make it a law in the first place, if they can't undo it?
I didn't say "they" can't. I said Santorum can't. What can Santorum do to end gαy marriage? Send in the troops? A constitutional amendment would have no chance of ratification.
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How did they make it a law in the first place, if they can't undo it?
I didn't say "they" can't. I said Santorum can't. What can Santorum do to end gαy marriage? Send in the troops? A constitutional amendment would have no chance of ratification.
Exactly.
It's simplistic to think that all levels of government and positions of power are interchangeable and equal in influence/importance.
Right now "gαy marriage" is a State thing. Unless the President A) supported and B) managed to pass (there's the rub) a Constitutional amendment banning gαy marriage, there's nothing a President can do short of "sending in troops".
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How did they make it a law in the first place, if they can't undo it?
I didn't say "they" can't. I said Santorum can't. What can Santorum do to end gαy marriage? Send in the troops? A constitutional amendment would have no chance of ratification.
Exactly.
It's simplistic to think that all levels of government and positions of power are interchangeable and equal in influence/importance.
Right now "gαy marriage" is a State thing. Unless the President A) supported and B) managed to pass (there's the rub) a Constitutional amendment banning gαy marriage, there's nothing a President can do short of "sending in troops".
I have a strong feeling it would be easier for a good President who had the will to do it, can do it; AND quicker than SSPX can convert the novus ordo church, they so want to be united with, in order to bring her back to Tradition.
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How about 101 reasons to vote for Ron Paul?
101 reasons to vote for Ron Paul in 2012
1. He Supports the Constitution. (Wow Go Figure!)
2. He Believes In Religious Freedom.
3. He Has Never Voted For A Tax Increase.
4. He Is Against Public Funding Of Abortion.
5. He Is Against Funding Abortion Abroad.
6. He Is Against The National I.D. or Real I.D. Act.
7. He Believes In The "Just War Theory".
8. He Supports The Rights Of Private Property Owners.
9. He Wants Us Out Of The U.N.
10. He Wants Us To Trade With Nations And Not War With Them.
11. He Is For 2nd Amendment Rights.
12. He Opposes NAIS.
13. He Wants To Shrink The Federal Government, Not Expand It.
14. He Has No Plans To Start A War With Iran Or Anyone Else.
15. He Wants To Bring Our Troops Home.
16. He Does Not Belong To The CFR (Council On Foreign Relations).
17. He Has Not Received Campaign Contributions From Rupert Murdoch
(Like Hillary).
18. His Running Mate Most Likely Will Not Have Shot Anyone In The Face.
19. He Wants To End The I.R.S..
20. He Wants To Cut Spending?? Really, Cut Spending.
21. He Is Against Eminent Domain.
22. He Is Against The NAFTA Superhighway.
23. He Is Against The North American Union Or SPP (It Exists Google It).
24. He Is For The Principle Of Sound Money.
25. He Is Against The Idea of The Amero (Google It).
26. He Is Against The Federal Reserve's Monopoly On Monetary Regulation.
27. He Is Philosophically Opposed To Big Government.
28. He Voted Against The Misnamed Patriot Act That Stripped Us Of Our Rights.
29. He Is For The Bill Of Rights.
30. He Knows The Meaning Of Liberty.
31. He Was 1 Of 4 People That Supported Reagan Early On.
32. He Has Been Married For 50 Years, Which Is An Achievement These Days.
33. He Is Not Married To Hillary.
34. His Supporters Love Him.
35. He Is A Once In A Lifetime Candidate.
36. Because His Record Is Consistent.
37. He Is Against Funding The So-Called War On Drugs (Another Unsuccessful War).
38. He Is Actually Against Funding Many Unsuccessful Federal Programs.
39. He Does Not Want To Ruin Healthcare By Nationalizing It, (LikeHillary, Obama, et al.)
40. He Is A Student Of History.
41. He Votes In Accordance With The Constitution.
42. He Will Not Forcibly Implant Us Or Our Troops With Microchips Or
Like Devices (It's For Your Safety, Of Course).
43. He Is The Only Conservative, In The Traditional Sense, Left.
44. Republicans Love Him Because He Is For Small Government.
45. Democrats Love Him Because He Will End The War For Oil.
46. Libertarians Love Him Because He Wants The Government Out Of Their Business.
47. He Is The Only Electable Republican Candidate.
48. He is Against The Creation Of A Surveillance Society (See London).
49. He Supports Homeschool Rights.
50. He Wants To End The Corporate Welfare System That Is Destroying
Our Government's Credibility.
51. He Tells It Like It Is. He Is Truthful.
52. He Reads.
53. As A Doctor, He Is Informed On The Healthcare Issue.
54. He Has Not Been Hannitized.
55. He Has The Courage To Speak Out Against What Is Wrong.
56. He Will Be Good For The Economy (Freedom Generally Is Good For
The Economy).
57. He Wants Us Out Of The WTO And Like Organizations.
58. The I.R.S. Is Scared Of This Guy.
59. He Is Smart Enough To Prefer Gold Over Paper.
60. He Knows The Term FIAT-CURRENCY and knows what it means.
61. He Wants To Secure Our Borders.
62. He Favors Guarding Our Country Over Policing The World.
63. He Opposed The War In Iraq >From The Beginning.
64. He Authorized The Hunt For Osama Bin Laden.
65. He Believes Local Governments Are Better Suited To Handle Their Own Issues.
66. He Is Willing To Listen And Reason With Others.
67. He Is A Christian Who Believes Christ Was Right When He Said,
"Blessed Are The Peacemakers".
68. He has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
69. He has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
70. He has never voted to raise congressional pay.
71. He has never taken a government-paid junket.
72. He has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
73. He voted against regulating the Internet.
74. He does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
75. He returns a portion of his annual congressional office budget to
the U.S. treasury every year.
76. He Is Against Selective Service Registration.
77. He Is Against A Mandatory Draft.
78. He Is Still Not Married To Hillary.
79. He Has The Support Of The Youth.
80. His Campaign Has People Across The Country Motivated.
81. His Supporters Are Enthusiastic.
82. He Is Educated.
83. He Wants To Apply The Golden Rule In Government (How Radical).
84. He Believes in Freedom Of Speech.
85. He Believes In Individual Rights
86. He Believes Those Rights Come From Our Creator.
87. He Does Not "Move With The Herd".
88. He Has Delivered Over 4,000 Babies And Values Life.
89. He Doesn't Have To "Act The Part" Because He Is What He Is.
90. He Has Not Waffled On The Abortion Issue As Every Other
Republican Candidate.
91. He Has Faced Tremendous Opposition With Dignity.
92. He Is Optimistic
93. He Values The Traditions That Have Kept Us Free.
94. He Understands That Monopolies Are Bad Things.
95. He Understands The Difference Between Individual And Government
Responsibility.
96. He Understands Inflation Is Not Just The Prices Going Up, But
Rather The Value Of Money Going Down.
97. You Will Feel Good About Your Vote For A Change.
98. You Will Know You Have Done The Right Thing.
99. For The First Time In A Long Time, You Will Not Be Voting "For The Least Worst".
100. You Will Help Undo The Damage Done To Our Country Over The Last
Several Decades.
101. He Is Our Last Hope For A Free Nation.
Supporting religious freedom is not Catholic. He does not believe in the Social Kingship of Christ
He wants gαys in the military. Hardly Catholic principles. Santorum is our hope.
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I have a strong feeling it would be easier for a good President who had the will to do it, can do it; AND quicker than SSPX can convert the novus ordo church, they so want to be united with, in order to bring her back to Tradition.
You may be interested in what Hugh Atkins (a Traditional Catholic) has to say about Rick Santorum vs. Ron Paul:
http://www.catholicactionresourcecenter.com/santorumvsronpaul.htm
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Supporting religious freedom is not Catholic. He does not believe in the Social Kingship of Christ
He wants gαys in the military. Hardly Catholic principles. Santorum is our hope.
Do you earnestly think that Santorum does not support religious freedom?
One might say that American exceptionalism isn't Catholic, either -- and yet Santorum is a proponent of it. In fact one of his criticisms of the current occupant of the White House is that he does not believe in American exceptionalism.
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Santorum is our hope.
Supporting Zionist Jews (Israel) is not part of the Social Kingship of Christ.
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Santorum is our hope.
Supporting Zionist Jews (Israel) is not part of the Social Kingship of Christ.
EXACTLY!
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LOL....i just looked it up and found that there are only 13.5 million Jews in the world. Give me a break...you people are acting as though this Zionism garbage is just as much of a threat as Sharia Law.
There are more than 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, and Sharia law is spreading throughout the middle east like wildfire. 13.5 million Jews are no match to 1.6 Billion Muslims, and the jews are in no position to successfully implement this zionist stuff in America or Europe. I would bet everything I own on that.
Yeah, Infinite Faith, you're probably right and God was probably wrong to focus so much attention on the "Jews." You know better than God. God should have warned us about the "leaven of the Muslims."
Could one of you Santorum Shabbos goyim get that Infinite Faith guy his yarmulke and drive him back to the ѕуηαgσgυє?
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I vote for Rick Santorum!
His stance on gαy marriage may be Catholic, but his stance on war isn't. Romney and Gingrich both "pledge" to end gαy marriage too. Does that mean we should vote for either of them?
And the video I posted pretty much proves that they will rig the election to make Obama re-elected.
I would hate to have to live through another 4 years with Obama as our President.
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LOL....i just looked it up and found that there are only 13.5 million Jews in the world. Give me a break...you people are acting as though this Zionism garbage is just as much of a threat as Sharia Law.
There are more than 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, and Sharia law is spreading throughout the middle east like wildfire. 13.5 million Jews are no match to 1.6 Billion Muslims, and the jews are in no position to successfully implement this zionist stuff in America or Europe. I would bet everything I own on that.
Yeah, Infinite Faith, you're probably right and God was probably wrong to focus so much attention on the "Jews." You know better than God. God should have warned us about the "leaven of the Muslims."
Could one of you Santorum Shabbos goyim get that Infinite Faith guy his yarmulke and drive him back to the ѕуηαgσgυє?
I don't see how any one could really slam the Jews. After all, the Old Testament is apart of our Faith. How can we really disagree with anything in the Bible? If the Bible says its ok for capital punishment then it is OK for capital punishment. If you start questioning one thing that is in the Bible then you might as well question everything in the Bible. Unless one of the Popes has made a change then the things in the Old Testament are still in effect. We [Catholics] still follow the Ten Commandments (one example). If you want to argue about things that are in the Old Testament then go ahead. But I see that as apart of our Faith.
As long as Catholics don't start converting over to Judaism, and the Jews don't take power over the world...then everything is going to be OK. Yes we need to be the ones in power....not them. Jews need to start converting to Catholicism....the End.
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How about 101 reasons to vote for Ron Paul?
101 reasons to vote for Ron Paul in 2012
4. He Is Against Public Funding Of Abortion.
5. He Is Against Funding Abortion Abroad.
These two points are misleading, Ron Paul supports a woman's "right" to abortion.
This is a HUGE defect in Ron Paul, that can't be passed over.
Supporting Israel is not a mortal sin. Voting for an abortionist is a mortal sin.
Nine ways of being an accessory to another’s sin:
By counsel
By Command
By Consent
By Provocation
By Praise or Flattery
By Concealment
By Partaking
By Silence
By defense of the Il Done
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I usually don't stake anything in politics, but then again, it's not everyday that a Catholic candidate runs, nor can I be blind to the moral issues of the day.
It's not true that a constitutional amendment is hopeless. DOMA did pass by large majorities, it is just that Obama refuses to defend it, and rogue courts arbitrarily declare it unconstitutional, often against the will of the people who are allowed to vote on it. Mobilizing once is easier than doing so 50 times, and secularists know this, which is why they want to make it a "state's rights" issue, as if the state had the right to do wrong, in the first place.
Santorum has stood against abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and contraception from the beginning. He sparred with Barbara Boxer on partial birth abortions, was responsible in sending the Supreme Court decision back for review, and in finally outlawing the procedure. He wants doctors who perform abortions to be criminally prosecuted for doing so, which even those who consider abortion to be murder find "extreme".
He's worked with groups like the national organization for marriage. He was villified by gαy activists for commenting on a Supreme Court decision striking down a Texas law banning Sodomy. He was booed by liberal college students for attempting to reason from the first principles of natural law about marriage and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. And importantly, he has spoken of the dangers of contraception, imperceptible to Protestants, but reiterated by the Popes and the Church, to society.
Ron Paul is not "the most pro-life member in washington" as Hugh Atkins mistakenly says. Very far from it.
He said, "While Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid."
http://prolifeprofiles.com/ron-paul-abortion
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So you concede that Zionism is wrong, but why then do you continue to support a man who holds the neo-con idea that Muslims are a bigger threat to us than Jews? And did you read anything I posted yesterday?
I did. Did you read what I posted, about what St.Thomas and St.Augustine said about Just War?
"True religion looks upon as peaceful those wars that are waged not for motives of aggrandizement, or cruelty, but with the object of securing peace, of punishing evil-doers, and of uplifting the good."
About how the Church condemned all of these wars as unjust
Wait, "The Church"? I thought you don't recognize today's Popes? :)
Anyway, as for me, although it is a matter of prudential judgment whether a given scenario fits the criteria for war to be waged justly, I of course defer to the Holy Father on the question, as I've told you before. The Iraq War could and should still have been avoided when it was entered into.
But let's keep things in perspective, Saddam was a terrible dictator who killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands. And in my opinion the war in Afghanistan was just and the Popes did not say otherwise.
about how Santorum's stance on war is un-Catholic according to an FSSP priest ... How can you support Santorum after reading all that?
Well, I would appreciate a link to the sermon. But one thing, have you researched your own candidate's positions on the cινιℓ ωαr to World War II? To the killing of Osama Bin Laden in war? Have you?
Ron Paul, on the position you seem to think "he is more Catholic than Santorum" is in my opinion misguided on Catholic teaching himself, and it would in my opinion be fatal if his intentions are implemented, as they can be on day one. I don't have to support the Jews in the slightest to believe that military force is sometimes necessary. Tell me this, why did the Popes call for the Crusades? Were they unjust wars?
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This proves nothing much less some kind of "revolution" going on in Iran
The Iranian Green Movement and the protests in 2009 was thought to number to at least 3 million under persons like Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi.
but I don't see the need of another major superpower sticking their noses in our affairs
Then please answer me why you do not feel the same, or do you, about America sticking its nose in Europe's affairs during World War II, or with the solidarity movement in Poland and elsewhere in Eastern Europe during the Cold War?
Perhaps it should have made no difference whether Churchill or Hitler prevailed in Europe, whether nαzιsm or democracy endured. Perhaps there were no strategic US interests in the Communist bloc region, no need for partners and international allies.
Also just what is Santorum's "credibility" on Iranian internal affairs?
Well, I could turn the question, just what precisely is Paul's or any other candidate's? My answer is Santorum has much relevant experience, having served on the armed services committee for 8 years. I completely disagree with Paul's foreign policy, that is all, I think it is his weakest trait, personally. He is relatively strong on some other issues, that's just my opinion, and I understand there may be Catholics who disagree with me.
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These two points are misleading, Ron Paul supports a woman's "right" to abortion.
You are wrong about that.
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This proves nothing much less some kind of "revolution" going on in Iran
The Iranian Green Movement and the protests in 2009 was thought to number to at least 3 million under persons like Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi.
Right, but the Iranian opposition doesn't want U.S. help because they don't want to owe us anything.
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These two points are misleading, Ron Paul supports a woman's "right" to abortion.
You are wrong about that.
Prove it. You are the one that is misinformed, you don't see anyone else making your claim? Ron Paul has NEVER ONCE claimed that he would fight to outlaw abortion. He is a libertarian and believes that it's up to the states to decide. In other words, he is not against abortion.
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These two points are misleading, Ron Paul supports a woman's "right" to abortion.
You are wrong about that.
Prove it. You are the one that is misinformed, you don't see anyone else making your claim? Ron Paul has NEVER ONCE claimed that he would fight to outlaw abortion. He is a libertarian and believes that it's up to the states to decide. In other words, he is not against abortion.
It's lies like this that Ron Paul has had to put up with since he entered the debate. The fact that you claim he's pro-abortion shows that you haven't even been following the GOP race. I watched a debate last month where he specifically said he thought abortion was "brutal" and should be outlawed. He simply said that banning it through the federal level would take up a lot of time, whereas if you turn it over to the states, most states would make it illegal. If you're going to make a claim about someone, you'd better be able to back it up.
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These two points are misleading, Ron Paul supports a woman's "right" to abortion.
You are wrong about that.
Prove it. You are the one that is misinformed, you don't see anyone else making your claim? Ron Paul has NEVER ONCE claimed that he would fight to outlaw abortion. He is a libertarian and believes that it's up to the states to decide. In other words, he is not against abortion.
It's lies like this that Ron Paul has had to put up with since he entered the race. The fact that you claim he's pro-abortion shows that you haven't even been following the GOP race. I watched a debate last month where he specifically said he thought abortion was "brutal" and should be outlawed. He simply said that banning it through the federal level would take up a lot of time, whereas if you turn it over to the states, most states would make it illegal. If you're going to make a claim about someone, you'd better be able to back it up.
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I did. Did you read what I posted, about what St.Thomas and St.Augustine said about Just War?
Yes, I did. But my point is that Jews are a bigger threat than Muslims. Anyone who read the protocols I posted should be able to figure that out.
But let's keep things in perspective, Saddam was a terrible dictator who killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands. And in my opinion the war in Afghanistan was just and the Popes did not say otherwise.
Saddam was a terrible dictator, but we had no buisiness going over there. He wasn't a threat to us, he didn't even have an army. And that worry that Iraq had chemical weapons turned out to be a hoax. All that money we wasted over there helped lead to the economic downfall we currently find ourselves in.
As for the war in Afghanistan, I wouldn't be surprised if the "terrorists" over there are fabricated.
Well, I would appreciate a link to the sermon.
I tried but I can't get it to work.
But one thing, have you researched your own candidate's positions on the cινιℓ ωαr to World War II? To the killing of Osama Bin Laden in war? Have you?
More falsehood. Ron Paul supported the killing of Osama Bin Laden.
Ron Paul, on the position you seem to think "he is more Catholic than Santorum" is in my opinion misguided on Catholic teaching himself, and it would in my opinion be fatal if his intentions are implemented, as they can be on day one. I don't have to support the Jews in the slightest to believe that military force is sometimes necessary.
Ron Paul never said military force wasn't sometimes necessary. You think it would "fatal" if we didn't support a ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic country like Israel? The country where the antichrist will rise? Let them fend for themselves. We don't have the money to go to war right now anyway.
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LOL....i just looked it up and found that there are only 13.5 million Jews in the world. Give me a break...you people are acting as though this Zionism garbage is just as much of a threat as Sharia Law.
There are more than 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, and Sharia law is spreading throughout the middle east like wildfire. 13.5 million Jews are no match to 1.6 Billion Muslims, and the jews are in no position to successfully implement this zionist stuff in America or Europe. I would bet everything I own on that.
Yeah, Infinite Faith, you're probably right and God was probably wrong to focus so much attention on the "Jews." You know better than God. God should have warned us about the "leaven of the Muslims."
Could one of you Santorum Shabbos goyim get that Infinite Faith guy his yarmulke and drive him back to the ѕуηαgσgυє?
I don't see how any one could really slam the Jews. After all, the Old Testament is apart of our Faith. How can we really disagree with anything in the Bible? If the Bible says its ok for capital punishment then it is OK for capital punishment. If you start questioning one thing that is in the Bible then you might as well question everything in the Bible. Unless one of the Popes has made a change then the things in the Old Testament are still in effect. We [Catholics] still follow the Ten Commandments (one example). If you want to argue about things that are in the Old Testament then go ahead. But I see that as apart of our Faith.
As long as Catholics don't start converting over to Judaism, and the Jews don't take power over the world...then everything is going to be OK. Yes we need to be the ones in power....not them. Jews need to start converting to Catholicism....the End.
You are a Judaizing change agent.
The Pharisees defected from the Mosaic Law (Mark 7:6-9). Judaism is a POST-Christian religion, NOT "Old Testament religion." They are the proselytes of the Pharisees, hence, according to JESUS, not me, they are "children of Hell twofold more" than the Pharisees themselves. (Matthew 23:15). Judaism DISPARAGES Moses and the Old Testament.
I don't see how any one could really slam the Jews.
GOD DID:
rejected Him 1 Kings 8:7
forsaken Him 1 Kings 8:8
served strange gods 1 Kings 8:8
hast not kept the commandments of the Lord 1 Kings 13:13
forsaken the commandments of God 3 Kings 18:18
mocked the messengers of God 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
despised God’s Word 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
misused the prophets 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
provoked God to wrath 2 Esdras 9:26
departed from God 2 Esdras 9:26
threw God’s law behind their backs 2 Esdras 9:26
killed the prophets, who admonished them earnestly to return to God 2 Esdras 9:26
guilty of great blasphemies 2 Esdras 9:26
forsaken the Lord Isaias 65:11
forgotten His holy mountain ( the commandments from Mt. Sinai) Isaias 65:11
didn't listen to Him Isaias 65:11
did evil Isaias 65:11
didn't answer Him Isaias 65:11
chosen the things that displease God Isaias 65:11
forsake God Jeremias 2:13
made up their own religion "that holds no water" Jeremias 2:13
had not done God's work Ezekiel 20:23
cast off His laws Ezekiel 20:23
their eyes were after the idols of their fathers Ezekiel 20:23
defiled Israel with idols Ezekiel 36:16ff
profaned His Holy Name Ezekiel 36:16ff
lying pen of the scribes wrote falsehood Jeremias 8:7ff
they all dealt deceitfully Jeremias 8:10
they voided the Covenant Jeremias 31:31-32
sacrificed to idols Jeremias 44:23
not walked in His law Jeremias 44:23
disobeyed God's commandments Jeremias 44:23
disobeyed God's Law Baruch 2:10
the people of Israel will deny the Messiah Daniel 9:25ff
no truth in Israel Osee 4:1-2
no mercy in Israel Osee 4:1-2
no knowledge of God in Israel Osee 4:1-2
sacrificed to Baalim and other idols Osee 11:2
He hates their festivities, sacrifices, and songs Amos 5:20-24
covetous in all the Israelites Amos 9:1
departed from the Law Malachias 2:8-12
made void the Mosaic Covenant Malachias 2:8-12
not kept God's ways Malachias 2:8-12
despised their brothers Malachias 2:8-12
committed abominations Malachias 2:8-12
profaned the holiness of the Lord Malachias 2:8-12
married the daughter of strange gods Malachias 2:8-12
accused by Moses John 5:45-47
adversaries to all men I Thessalonians 2:14
agents of the devil John 8:44
blind Matthew 23:26
blind guides Matthew 23:16, 17, 19, 24
children of Hell Matthew 23:15
children of the devil John 8:44
crucifiers Matthew 23:34
dangerous leaven Matthew 16:6-12; Mark 8:15; Luke 12:1
defectors Matthew 15:6; Mark 7:9, 13; John 5:45, 46, 47
deicides I Thessalonians 2:14-15
dogs Matthew 7:6; Apocalypse 22:16
foolish Matthew 23:17
full of dead men's bones Matthew 23:27
haters of God John 15:24,25
hypocrites Matthew 6:2, 5; 15:7; 22:18; 23:13, 14, 15, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29; Mark 7:6; Luke 13:15
idolaters Apocalypse 22:16
iniquitous Matthew 23:28
killers of the just Matthew 23:35
killers of the prophets Matthew 23:37; I Thessalonians 2:14-15
liars John 8:44, 55; Apocalypse 3:9, 22:16
murderers Matthew 23:31; Apocalypse 22:15
offspring of vipers Luke 3:7
purveyors of fables Titus 1:13-14
serpents Matthew 23:33
sorcerers Apocalypse 22:16
swine Matthew 7:6
ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan Apocalypse 2:9, 3:9
unchaste Apocalypse 22:16
unclean Matthew 23:25
vipers Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33
void the commandments of God for the traditions of men Mark 7:8-9
whited sepulchers Matthew 23:27
axe laid to the root Matthew 3:10
cast into the fire Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9
condemned Mark 16:16
cut down Matthew 3:10
in vain do they worship me Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7
judgment of Hell Matthew 23:33
shall be broken Matthew 21:44
shall be ground into powder Matthew 21:44
the kingdom of God shall be taken from you Matthew 21:43
woe Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52
wrath Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16
you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 23:13
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Do us all a favor, Infinite Faith. Learn a little about Judaism before you open your trap again on the subject:
Judaism 101—Judaism in Its Own Words (updated) (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=17553)
Learn what Judaism teaches about itself. Learn what the perennial Magisterium has always taught about Judaism.
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Do us all a favor, Infinite Faith. Learn a little about Judaism before you open your trap again on the subject:
Judaism 101—Judaism in Its Own Words (updated) (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=17553)
Learn what Judaism teaches about itself. Learn what the perennial Magisterium has always taught about Judaism.
They can think those things all they want. I really don't care, and I don't see them as a huge threat. Potentially they could be, but their numbers are so small I don't see how they can really do anything. I know the truth...hopefully you know the truth. And the Bible does say to "love even your enemies". I am not going to become all militant towards Jews over the stuff you have presented to me.
I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.
How do you feel about Hitler and how he treated Jews?
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LOL....i just looked it up and found that there are only 13.5 million Jews in the world. Give me a break...you people are acting as though this Zionism garbage is just as much of a threat as Sharia Law.
There are more than 1.6 Billion Muslims in the world, and Sharia law is spreading throughout the middle east like wildfire. 13.5 million Jews are no match to 1.6 Billion Muslims, and the jews are in no position to successfully implement this zionist stuff in America or Europe. I would bet everything I own on that.
Yeah, Infinite Faith, you're probably right and God was probably wrong to focus so much attention on the "Jews." You know better than God. God should have warned us about the "leaven of the Muslims."
Could one of you Santorum Shabbos goyim get that Infinite Faith guy his yarmulke and drive him back to the ѕуηαgσgυє?
I don't see how any one could really slam the Jews. After all, the Old Testament is apart of our Faith. How can we really disagree with anything in the Bible? If the Bible says its ok for capital punishment then it is OK for capital punishment. If you start questioning one thing that is in the Bible then you might as well question everything in the Bible. Unless one of the Popes has made a change then the things in the Old Testament are still in effect. We [Catholics] still follow the Ten Commandments (one example). If you want to argue about things that are in the Old Testament then go ahead. But I see that as apart of our Faith.
As long as Catholics don't start converting over to Judaism, and the Jews don't take power over the world...then everything is going to be OK. Yes we need to be the ones in power....not them. Jews need to start converting to Catholicism....the End.
You are a Judaizing change agent.
The Pharisees defected from the Mosaic Law (Mark 7:6-9). Judaism is a POST-Christian religion, NOT "Old Testament religion." They are the proselytes of the Pharisees, hence, according to JESUS, not me, they are "children of Hell twofold more" than the Pharisees themselves. (Matthew 23:15). Judaism DISPARAGES Moses and the Old Testament.
I don't see how any one could really slam the Jews.
GOD DID:
rejected Him 1 Kings 8:7
forsaken Him 1 Kings 8:8
served strange gods 1 Kings 8:8
hast not kept the commandments of the Lord 1 Kings 13:13
forsaken the commandments of God 3 Kings 18:18
mocked the messengers of God 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
despised God’s Word 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
misused the prophets 2 Paralipomenon 36:16
provoked God to wrath 2 Esdras 9:26
departed from God 2 Esdras 9:26
threw God’s law behind their backs 2 Esdras 9:26
killed the prophets, who admonished them earnestly to return to God 2 Esdras 9:26
guilty of great blasphemies 2 Esdras 9:26
forsaken the Lord Isaias 65:11
forgotten His holy mountain ( the commandments from Mt. Sinai) Isaias 65:11
didn't listen to Him Isaias 65:11
did evil Isaias 65:11
didn't answer Him Isaias 65:11
chosen the things that displease God Isaias 65:11
forsake God Jeremias 2:13
made up their own religion "that holds no water" Jeremias 2:13
had not done God's work Ezekiel 20:23
cast off His laws Ezekiel 20:23
their eyes were after the idols of their fathers Ezekiel 20:23
defiled Israel with idols Ezekiel 36:16ff
profaned His Holy Name Ezekiel 36:16ff
lying pen of the scribes wrote falsehood Jeremias 8:7ff
they all dealt deceitfully Jeremias 8:10
they voided the Covenant Jeremias 31:31-32
sacrificed to idols Jeremias 44:23
not walked in His law Jeremias 44:23
disobeyed God's commandments Jeremias 44:23
disobeyed God's Law Baruch 2:10
the people of Israel will deny the Messiah Daniel 9:25ff
no truth in Israel Osee 4:1-2
no mercy in Israel Osee 4:1-2
no knowledge of God in Israel Osee 4:1-2
sacrificed to Baalim and other idols Osee 11:2
He hates their festivities, sacrifices, and songs Amos 5:20-24
covetous in all the Israelites Amos 9:1
departed from the Law Malachias 2:8-12
made void the Mosaic Covenant Malachias 2:8-12
not kept God's ways Malachias 2:8-12
despised their brothers Malachias 2:8-12
committed abominations Malachias 2:8-12
profaned the holiness of the Lord Malachias 2:8-12
married the daughter of strange gods Malachias 2:8-12
accused by Moses John 5:45-47
adversaries to all men I Thessalonians 2:14
agents of the devil John 8:44
blind Matthew 23:26
blind guides Matthew 23:16, 17, 19, 24
children of Hell Matthew 23:15
children of the devil John 8:44
crucifiers Matthew 23:34
dangerous leaven Matthew 16:6-12; Mark 8:15; Luke 12:1
defectors Matthew 15:6; Mark 7:9, 13; John 5:45, 46, 47
deicides I Thessalonians 2:14-15
dogs Matthew 7:6; Apocalypse 22:16
foolish Matthew 23:17
full of dead men's bones Matthew 23:27
haters of God John 15:24,25
hypocrites Matthew 6:2, 5; 15:7; 22:18; 23:13, 14, 15, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29; Mark 7:6; Luke 13:15
idolaters Apocalypse 22:16
iniquitous Matthew 23:28
killers of the just Matthew 23:35
killers of the prophets Matthew 23:37; I Thessalonians 2:14-15
liars John 8:44, 55; Apocalypse 3:9, 22:16
murderers Matthew 23:31; Apocalypse 22:15
offspring of vipers Luke 3:7
purveyors of fables Titus 1:13-14
serpents Matthew 23:33
sorcerers Apocalypse 22:16
swine Matthew 7:6
ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan Apocalypse 2:9, 3:9
unchaste Apocalypse 22:16
unclean Matthew 23:25
vipers Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33
void the commandments of God for the traditions of men Mark 7:8-9
whited sepulchers Matthew 23:27
axe laid to the root Matthew 3:10
cast into the fire Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9
condemned Mark 16:16
cut down Matthew 3:10
in vain do they worship me Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7
judgment of Hell Matthew 23:33
shall be broken Matthew 21:44
shall be ground into powder Matthew 21:44
the kingdom of God shall be taken from you Matthew 21:43
woe Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52
wrath Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16
you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 23:13
I don't believe Jews will go to heaven either.
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I did. Did you read what I posted, about what St.Thomas and St.Augustine said about Just War?
Yes, I did. But my point is that Jews are a bigger threat than Muslims. Anyone who read the protocols I posted should be able to figure that out.
But let's keep things in perspective, Saddam was a terrible dictator who killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands. And in my opinion the war in Afghanistan was just and the Popes did not say otherwise.
Saddam was a terrible dictator, but we had no buisiness going over there. He wasn't a threat to us, he didn't even have an army. And that worry that Iraq had chemical weapons turned out to be a hoax. All that money we wasted over there helped lead to the economic downfall we currently find ourselves in.
As for the war in Afghanistan, I wouldn't be surprised if the "terrorists" over there are fabricated.
Well, I would appreciate a link to the sermon.
I tried but I can't get it to work.
But one thing, have you researched your own candidate's positions on the cινιℓ ωαr to World War II? To the killing of Osama Bin Laden in war? Have you?
More falsehood. Ron Paul supported the killing of Osama Bin Laden.
Ron Paul, on the position you seem to think "he is more Catholic than Santorum" is in my opinion misguided on Catholic teaching himself, and it would in my opinion be fatal if his intentions are implemented, as they can be on day one. I don't have to support the Jews in the slightest to believe that military force is sometimes necessary.
Ron Paul never said military force wasn't sometimes necessary. You think it would "fatal" if we didn't support a ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic country like Israel? The country where the antichrist will rise? Let them fend for themselves. We don't have the money to go to war right now anyway.
The Antichrist could possibly be Muslim too. I don't know why you are so sure that he will be a Jew.
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I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.
Virtually the entire Clinton, Bush, and Obama cabinets were/are Judaics. The media is owned/controlled by Judaics. With the exception of Iran and Libya, the central banks of the world and international finance have been controlled disproportionately by Judaics. Abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism, pornography, slavery, sex slavery, and organized crime are disproportionately Judaic.
Communism was theirs. They boasted of that until the body count became widely known. Now they can't deny their involvement in Communism fast enough.
“Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-assassins in the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Black Hand Lodge) started World War ONE—25 million died.
“Chosen People” (the 1934 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.
“Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, gαy, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.
The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE in the 20th century. Islamics didn't come close to that.
How many souls will you let them kill in the 21st century?
GOD warned us about "the leaven of the Pharisees," "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan," and "the adversaries to all men." He did not say one word about Islam as a future threat. Not one of the Blessed Mother's apparitions in the last two centuries have said one word about Islam. In 1917 Our Lady of Fatima warned us about "the errors of Russia" which at the time had undergone the first of two ʝʊdɛօ-Bolshevist led revolutions.
You don't have to be "Hitler" to be aware of the dangers that they represent to body and soul. Whatever their numbers, they have been a far greater danger to body and soul than the Islamics.
Even if you are a college kid, you are a moron to be in denial about all that.
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The Antichrist could possibly be Muslim too. I don't know why you are so sure that he will be a Jew.
And I don't know why you haven't learned to keep your mouth shut about issues on which you known nothing.
Read the Early Fathers on the anti-Christ.
Start with Cardinal Manning's The Pope and the Anti-Christ:
http://www.lulu.com/product/paperback/the-pope-and-the-antichrist/1709934
Punk college kid.
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They have also been a part of every major heresy and they boast about it:
Jєωιѕн Influence on Christian Reform Movements
by Rabbi Louis I. Newman
http://www.amazon.com/Jєωιѕн-Influence-Christian-Reform-Movements/dp/0404505139
http://www.questia.com/library/book/Jєωιѕн-influence-on-christian-reform-movements-by-louis-i-newman.jsp
I apologize for being so insulting and cranky, but I admit that I am tired of supposed Catholic adults being ignorant of things that every Catholic grammar school child used to know. It seems that Catholics have lost all move of the truth—certainly why God has sent us all "the operation of error to believe lies." 2 Thessalonians 2:10
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typo: "love" of the truth.
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I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.
Virtually the entire Clinton, Bush, and Obama cabinets were/are Judaics. The media is owned/controlled by Judaics. With the exception of Iran and Libya, the central banks of the world and international finance have been controlled disproportionately by Judaics. Abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism, pornography, slavery, sex slavery, and organized crime are disproportionately Judaic.
Communism was theirs. They boasted of that until the body count became widely known. Now they can't deny their involvement in Communism fast enough.
“Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-assassins in the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Black Hand Lodge) started World War ONE—25 million died.
“Chosen People” (the 1934 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.
“Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, gαy, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.
The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE in the 20th century. Islamics didn't come close to that.
How many souls will you let them kill in the 21st century?
GOD warned us about "the leaven of the Pharisees," "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan," and "the adversaries to all men." He did not say one word about Islam as a future threat. Not one of the Blessed Mother's apparitions in the last two centuries have said one word about Islam. In 1917 Our Lady of Fatima warned us about "the errors of Russia" which at the time had undergone the first of two ʝʊdɛօ-Bolshevist led revolutions.
You don't have to be "Hitler" to be aware of the dangers that they represent to body and soul. Whatever their numbers, they have been a far greater danger to body and soul than the Islamics.
Even if you are a college kid, you are a moron to be in denial about all that.
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
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The Antichrist could possibly be Muslim too. I don't know why you are so sure that he will be a Jew.
No, all Prophecies say that he will be a Jew. And if you had read the protocols I posted, you would see that the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons speak of crowning their "king of the Jews" which will be the antichrist (and before you say they were speaking of Christ, protocol #14 says that they shall forbid Christ).
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
No, Diego is right about the Jews. You say we shouldn't slam them, yet interestingly you then proceed to admit that they will not be saved. So which is it? Do you think the Jews are good people who will be saved like the Vatican II church says, or do you agree with the Catholic Church that the Jews will not be saved?
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I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.
Virtually the entire Clinton, Bush, and Obama cabinets were/are Judaics. The media is owned/controlled by Judaics. With the exception of Iran and Libya, the central banks of the world and international finance have been controlled disproportionately by Judaics. Abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism, pornography, slavery, sex slavery, and organized crime are disproportionately Judaic.
Communism was theirs. They boasted of that until the body count became widely known. Now they can't deny their involvement in Communism fast enough.
“Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-assassins in the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Black Hand Lodge) started World War ONE—25 million died.
“Chosen People” (the 1934 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.
“Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, gαy, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.
The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE in the 20th century. Islamics didn't come close to that.
How many souls will you let them kill in the 21st century?
GOD warned us about "the leaven of the Pharisees," "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan," and "the adversaries to all men." He did not say one word about Islam as a future threat. Not one of the Blessed Mother's apparitions in the last two centuries have said one word about Islam. In 1917 Our Lady of Fatima warned us about "the errors of Russia" which at the time had undergone the first of two ʝʊdɛօ-Bolshevist led revolutions.
You don't have to be "Hitler" to be aware of the dangers that they represent to body and soul. Whatever their numbers, they have been a far greater danger to body and soul than the Islamics.
Even if you are a college kid, you are a moron to be in denial about all that.
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
Are you suggesting that Gavril Princpes and 4 of the 6 assassins were not Jєωιѕн?
Are you suggesting that World Jewry did not declare war on Germany in 1934?
Are you suggesting that Rabbi Moses Hess, Karl Marx, and all the rest were not Jєωιѕн? Or has nothing to do with Communism? that contemporary World Jewry did not boast that Communism was theirs? that 60 million were not killed by them in the USSR?
Are you suggesting that most of those presidential cabinets were not "Jєωιѕн"?
That God did not warn us about them? that the Blessed Mother didn't warn about their errors?
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Behold, I will bring of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie. Behold, I will make them to come and adore before thy feet. And they shall know that I have loved thee. -Apocalypse 3:9
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The Antichrist could possibly be Muslim too. I don't know why you are so sure that he will be a Jew.
No, all Prophecies say that he will be a Jew. And if you had read the protocols I posted, you would see that the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons speak of crowning their "king of the Jews" which will be the antichrist (and before you say they were speaking of Christ, protocol #14 says that they shall forbid Christ).
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
No, Diego is right about the Jews. You say we shouldn't slam them, yet interestingly you then proceed to admit that they will not be saved. So which is it? Do you think the Jews are good people who will be saved like the Vatican II church says, or do you agree with the Catholic Church that the Jews will not be saved?
I don't believe in slamming people who are not Catholic just for that reason. I believe in Free-Will. I think that we should love all sinners since we are sinners ourselves. Plus I think by loving them they are more likely to convert to Catholicism as oppossed to us trying to play an authoritative role with them by cracking our whips.
Vatican II says the Jews have a chance at Salvation? Please show me that.
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I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.
Virtually the entire Clinton, Bush, and Obama cabinets were/are Judaics. The media is owned/controlled by Judaics. With the exception of Iran and Libya, the central banks of the world and international finance have been controlled disproportionately by Judaics. Abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism, pornography, slavery, sex slavery, and organized crime are disproportionately Judaic.
Communism was theirs. They boasted of that until the body count became widely known. Now they can't deny their involvement in Communism fast enough.
“Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-assassins in the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Black Hand Lodge) started World War ONE—25 million died.
“Chosen People” (the 1934 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.
“Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, gαy, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.
The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE in the 20th century. Islamics didn't come close to that.
How many souls will you let them kill in the 21st century?
GOD warned us about "the leaven of the Pharisees," "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan," and "the adversaries to all men." He did not say one word about Islam as a future threat. Not one of the Blessed Mother's apparitions in the last two centuries have said one word about Islam. In 1917 Our Lady of Fatima warned us about "the errors of Russia" which at the time had undergone the first of two ʝʊdɛօ-Bolshevist led revolutions.
You don't have to be "Hitler" to be aware of the dangers that they represent to body and soul. Whatever their numbers, they have been a far greater danger to body and soul than the Islamics.
Even if you are a college kid, you are a moron to be in denial about all that.
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
Are you suggesting that Gavril Princpes and 4 of the 6 assassins were not Jєωιѕн?
Are you suggesting that World Jewry did not declare war on Germany in 1934?
Are you suggesting that Rabbi Moses Hess, Karl Marx, and all the rest were not Jєωιѕн? Or has nothing to do with Communism? that contemporary World Jewry did not boast that Communism was theirs? that 60 million were not killed by them in the USSR?
Are you suggesting that most of those presidential cabinets were not "Jєωιѕн"?
That God did not warn us about them? that the Blessed Mother didn't warn about their errors?
This article says Karl Marx was not Jєωιѕн...
http://www.jewcy.com/religion-and-beliefs/was_karl_marx_really_Jєωιѕн
Communism breads atheism...not judaism.
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Nishant,
[quote]The Iranian Green Movement and the protests in 2009 was thought to number to at least 3 million under persons like Hossein Mousavi and Mehdi Karroubi[/i].
I think that number is inflated, your talking close to 5% of the total population there which IMO is a reach. At any rate, you fail to to prove that the protesters have the pulse of the majority of the population, probably in as much as OWS has had in this country. A few reasonable people for real change, the rest a bunch of radicals and anarchists. and just what does the this "Green" movement propose for change? what did they want? Not much really from what i've read other than changes within Ahmadinejad's regime whom Mousavi and Co. feel the regime has abandoned the "true teachings" of Ayatollah Khomeini.
Really? And these are the people that you want the U.S to help remove the current Iranian rulers with? So they can go follow the Ayatollah's teachings more closely?
You've got to be kidding.
[quote]Then please answer me why you do not feel the same, or do you, about America sticking its nose in Europe's affairs during World War II, or with the solidarity movement in Poland and elsewhere in Eastern Europe during the Cold War?[/i]
Our noses weren't in before Pearl Harbor, our whole head was. We were supplying the Anglos and Frogs against Hitler as well as the Bolsheveks in China and Russia behind the veil of the "Arsenal of Democracy". We were backing against the Axis from the beginning and practically dared the Japs to do what they did when we tried to cut off their vital resources and money, just like we're trying to do to Iran today.
The United States, just like before WWII, has for all intensive purposes declared war against Iran, pulling out every stop and forcing Iran to eventually make that "first strike".
And know your history. Communism was established in Europe by back by American and Western financiers (mostly Jews) but this is another discussion.
Perhaps it should have made no difference whether Churchill or Hitler prevailed in Europe, whether nαzιsm or democracy endured. Perhaps there were no strategic US interests in the Communist bloc region, no need for partners and international allies.
Democracy? Where? In the European "Union" they have today? The soon to be Islamo state of Euro-Stahn? And the U.S. is more Communist than Russia today, you better believe it.
And besides, who said Democracy is the most desirable, effective form of gov't? Is this Church teaching? Liberty, Fraternity, Equality?
Also, I'm not campiaigning for Paul, but he's the best of the bunch in my opinion and we really have to stop getting involved and spending all this money on useless, winless wars in the ME.
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I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.
Virtually the entire Clinton, Bush, and Obama cabinets were/are Judaics. The media is owned/controlled by Judaics. With the exception of Iran and Libya, the central banks of the world and international finance have been controlled disproportionately by Judaics. Abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism, pornography, slavery, sex slavery, and organized crime are disproportionately Judaic.
Communism was theirs. They boasted of that until the body count became widely known. Now they can't deny their involvement in Communism fast enough.
“Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-assassins in the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Black Hand Lodge) started World War ONE—25 million died.
“Chosen People” (the 1934 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.
“Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, gαy, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.
The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE in the 20th century. Islamics didn't come close to that.
How many souls will you let them kill in the 21st century?
GOD warned us about "the leaven of the Pharisees," "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan," and "the adversaries to all men." He did not say one word about Islam as a future threat. Not one of the Blessed Mother's apparitions in the last two centuries have said one word about Islam. In 1917 Our Lady of Fatima warned us about "the errors of Russia" which at the time had undergone the first of two ʝʊdɛօ-Bolshevist led revolutions.
You don't have to be "Hitler" to be aware of the dangers that they represent to body and soul. Whatever their numbers, they have been a far greater danger to body and soul than the Islamics.
Even if you are a college kid, you are a moron to be in denial about all that.
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
Are you suggesting that Gavril Princpes and 4 of the 6 assassins were not Jєωιѕн?
Are you suggesting that World Jewry did not declare war on Germany in 1934?
Are you suggesting that Rabbi Moses Hess, Karl Marx, and all the rest were not Jєωιѕн? Or has nothing to do with Communism? that contemporary World Jewry did not boast that Communism was theirs? that 60 million were not killed by them in the USSR?
Are you suggesting that most of those presidential cabinets were not "Jєωιѕн"?
That God did not warn us about them? that the Blessed Mother didn't warn about their errors?
This article says Karl Marx was not Jєωιѕн...
http://www.jewcy.com/religion-and-beliefs/was_karl_marx_really_Jєωιѕн
Communism breads atheism...not judaism.
One pseudo-datum is your only response? I am thinking you are not an intellectually honest person, just a change agent.
Karl Marx's rabbi was Rabbi Moses Hess.
Here are reliable lists of the OTHER Jєωιѕн Communists as well:
See Part 1, especially “Jєωιѕн TESTIMONY,” at http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/ http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html
Even today, some of the tribe admit their role in Communism:
Stalin's Jews
by Sever Plocker, Published: 12.21.06, 23:35 / Israel Opinion
“We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jєωιѕн…”
http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
There are other non-Catholic sources:
The Jєωιѕн Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime: Assessing the Grim Legacy of Soviet Communism by Mark Weber
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
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I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.
Virtually the entire Clinton, Bush, and Obama cabinets were/are Judaics. The media is owned/controlled by Judaics. With the exception of Iran and Libya, the central banks of the world and international finance have been controlled disproportionately by Judaics. Abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism, pornography, slavery, sex slavery, and organized crime are disproportionately Judaic.
Communism was theirs. They boasted of that until the body count became widely known. Now they can't deny their involvement in Communism fast enough.
“Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-assassins in the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Black Hand Lodge) started World War ONE—25 million died.
“Chosen People” (the 1934 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.
“Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, gαy, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.
The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE in the 20th century. Islamics didn't come close to that.
How many souls will you let them kill in the 21st century?
GOD warned us about "the leaven of the Pharisees," "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan," and "the adversaries to all men." He did not say one word about Islam as a future threat. Not one of the Blessed Mother's apparitions in the last two centuries have said one word about Islam. In 1917 Our Lady of Fatima warned us about "the errors of Russia" which at the time had undergone the first of two ʝʊdɛօ-Bolshevist led revolutions.
You don't have to be "Hitler" to be aware of the dangers that they represent to body and soul. Whatever their numbers, they have been a far greater danger to body and soul than the Islamics.
Even if you are a college kid, you are a moron to be in denial about all that.
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
Are you suggesting that Gavril Princpes and 4 of the 6 assassins were not Jєωιѕн?
Are you suggesting that World Jewry did not declare war on Germany in 1934?
Are you suggesting that Rabbi Moses Hess, Karl Marx, and all the rest were not Jєωιѕн? Or has nothing to do with Communism? that contemporary World Jewry did not boast that Communism was theirs? that 60 million were not killed by them in the USSR?
Are you suggesting that most of those presidential cabinets were not "Jєωιѕн"?
That God did not warn us about them? that the Blessed Mother didn't warn about their errors?
This article says Karl Marx was not Jєωιѕн...
http://www.jewcy.com/religion-and-beliefs/was_karl_marx_really_Jєωιѕн
Communism breads atheism...not judaism.
Judaism is the mother of Bolshevism........get your facts right.
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...I don't believe in slamming people who are not Catholic just for that reason. ...I think that we should love all sinners...
Did someone here suggest hating them? I missed that. I have only seen warnings to be careful lest one lose body and/or soul from their pernicious creed and misanthropic behavior.
Jesus "slammed" them:
accused by Moses John 5:45-47
adversaries to all men I Thessalonians 2:14
agents of the devil John 8:44
blind Matthew 23:26
blind guides Matthew 23:16, 17, 19, 24
children of Hell Matthew 23:15
children of the devil John 8:44
crucifiers Matthew 23:34
dangerous leaven Matthew 16:6-12; Mark 8:15; Luke 12:1
defectors Matthew 15:6; Mark 7:9, 13; John 5:45, 46, 47
deicides I Thessalonians 2:14-15
dogs Matthew 7:6; Apocalypse 22:16
foolish Matthew 23:17
full of dead men's bones Matthew 23:27
haters of God John 15:24,25
hypocrites Matthew 6:2, 5; 15:7; 22:18; 23:13, 14, 15, 23, 25, 27, 28, 29; Mark 7:6; Luke 13:15
idolaters Apocalypse 22:16
iniquitous Matthew 23:28
killers of the just Matthew 23:35
killers of the prophets Matthew 23:37; I Thessalonians 2:14-15
liars John 8:44, 55; Apocalypse 3:9, 22:16
murderers Matthew 23:31; Apocalypse 22:15
offspring of vipers Luke 3:7
purveyors of fables Titus 1:13-14
serpents Matthew 23:33
sorcerers Apocalypse 22:16
swine Matthew 7:6
ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan Apocalypse 2:9, 3:9
unchaste Apocalypse 22:16
unclean Matthew 23:25
vipers Matthew 3:7; 12:34; 23:33
void the commandments of God for the traditions of men Mark 7:8-9
whited sepulchers Matthew 23:27
axe laid to the root Matthew 3:10
cast into the fire Matthew 3:10; 7:19; Luke 3:9
condemned Mark 16:16
cut down Matthew 3:10
in vain do they worship me Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7
judgment of Hell Matthew 23:33
shall be broken Matthew 21:44
shall be ground into powder Matthew 21:44
the kingdom of God shall be taken from you Matthew 21:43
woe Matthew 23:13, 14, 15, 16, 23, 25, 27; Luke 11:42, 46, 47, 52
wrath Matthew 3:7; Luke 3:7; 21:23; St. Paul in I Thessalonians 2:16
you do not enter the kingdom of Heaven Matthew 23:13
Do you think Jesus is a bad example?
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Communism breads atheism...not judaism.
Um... again, in the protocols I posted, they say specifically that they support Communism.
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Here's an interesting photo of Stalin in a yarmulke:
http://winstonsmithministryoftruth.blogspot.com/2012/02/rabbi-ss-wise-on-joys-of-marxism.html
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I really believe that when it comes to the Jєωιѕн people, everyone here is a little bit correct, and I wish someone would detail how ALL the Jєωιѕн people are not all alike, take this verse quoted previously...
Behold, I will bring of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.
As Benjamine Freedman has disclosed: Do you know what Jews do on the Day of Atonement, that you think is so sacred to them? I was one of them. This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts. When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a ѕуηαgσgυє, you stand up for the very first prayer that you recite. It is the only prayer for which you stand. You repeat three times a short prayer called the Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months shall be null and void. The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force or effect. And further, the тαℓмυd teaches that whenever you take an oath, vow, or pledge, you are to remember the Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and you are exempted from fulfilling them. How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916. We are going to suffer the same fate as Germany suffered, and for the same reason.
Not all Jєωιѕн people are this type, some are just families that need prayer to Know Jesus Christ. Yet, so many here just speak with a feeling of hatred as if ALL Jєωιѕн people are against us. which is not true and it seems you are speaking past each other.
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Ahhh, those tricky children of the Father of Lies:
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(http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/176e0d1166646c68156d2256a9a701d5.jpg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7MKgLhJwTCM/TzktzdRv11I/AAAAAAAAEA8/E8tsvNs5qpg/s640/ang3.jpg)
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Not sure if any Santorum supporters know about this:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2087812/Rick-Santorums-wife-Karen-love-affair-abortion-doctor.html
http://schotline.us/2012/01/05/santorums-voting-record-not-good/
http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/rick-santorums-wife-was-in-unmarried-relationship-with-abortion-doctor/politics/2012/01/10/32978
Santorum has not spoken out against NDAA or the extension of the "patriot" act. He probably supports drones flying in American skies, too.
A vote for Santorum is a vote for Obama. That translates to a vote for a growing police state, more war, corporate cronyism, a criminal banking cartel, big oil, big pharma, etc., all while the little goyim become further entrenched in their servitude to the aforementioned. Santorum has also more than hinted he will attack Iran. Somebody on this thread said there is no reason to believe Santorum would attack Iran preemptively, based on his rhetoric. Well, George W campaigned on a "humble foreign policy" and not sticking our noses in other people's business. Pure deception.
Ron Paul is the only candidate with a consistent and ethical voting background.
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I really believe that when it comes to the Jєωιѕн people, everyone here is a little bit correct, and I wish someone would detail how ALL the Jєωιѕн people are not all alike, take this verse quoted previously...
Behold, I will bring of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie.
As Benjamine Freedman has disclosed: Do you know what Jews do on the Day of Atonement, that you think is so sacred to them? I was one of them. This is not hearsay. I'm not here to be a rabble-rouser. I'm here to give you facts. When, on the Day of Atonement, you walk into a ѕуηαgσgυє, you stand up for the very first prayer that you recite. It is the only prayer for which you stand. You repeat three times a short prayer called the Kol Nidre. In that prayer, you enter into an agreement with God Almighty that any oath, vow, or pledge that you may make during the next twelve months shall be null and void. The oath shall not be an oath; the vow shall not be a vow; the pledge shall not be a pledge. They shall have no force or effect. And further, the тαℓмυd teaches that whenever you take an oath, vow, or pledge, you are to remember the Kol Nidre prayer that you recited on the Day of Atonement, and you are exempted from fulfilling them. How much can you depend on their loyalty? You can depend upon their loyalty as much as the Germans depended upon it in 1916. We are going to suffer the same fate as Germany suffered, and for the same reason.
Not all Jєωιѕн people are this type, some are just families that need prayer to Know Jesus Christ. Yet, so many here just speak with a feeling of hatred as if ALL Jєωιѕн people are against us. which is not true and it seems you are speaking past each other.
I sent this quote to a relative who is Jєωιѕн, and whose morality I trust. This was his reply.
"This is nonsense. Anyone with a computer or a library card can examine the liturgy for Yom Kippur and see that. We ask forgiveness for the promises to God that we have failed to keep. There is nothing about asking forgiveness for harm done to other people because Jews believe that even God cannot forgive that. Only the person you have harmed can."
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...Not all Jєωιѕн people are this type..
Some of us are not morons. We actually know that, but it is the leaders that drag them into the worst things. Their tribalism prevents them from disciplining the worst among them... and the innocents suffer.
At the moment though their worst of the worst, not satisfied with the loot from their worldwide economic crimes against humanity, are trying to start World War III.
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...I sent this quote to a relative who is Jєωιѕн, and whose morality I trust. This was his reply.
"This is nonsense. Anyone with a computer or a library card can examine the liturgy for Yom Kippur and see that. We ask forgiveness for the promises to God that we have failed to keep. There is nothing about asking forgiveness for harm done to other people because Jews believe that even God cannot forgive that. Only the person you have harmed can."
The Kol Nidre has been exposed since the Middle Ages. Sincere converts like Donin and Pfefferkorn revealed that the Kol Nidre is a denial of FUTURE oaths. The rabbis were challenged, as they were also challenged on the wickedness of their Oral Torah (тαℓмυd and Kabbalistic literature). They had NO answer then; they slunk away from the Disputations.
In the intervening centuries, however, the objectionable texts made available to Gentiles have been sanitized, censored, and code words substituted, so there is no shortage of decoy texts available. The Catholic Church had some role in that, but that is a different discussion.
Keep in mind too that the average "Jew" knows about as much about Judaism as the average "Catholic" knows about Catholicism.
The genuine Kol Nidre is definitely a denial of FUTURE oaths.
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Of course not ALL Jews are the same. But the point I've been making still stands: Jews are a threat. I shouldn't have to explain why.
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The Antichrist could possibly be Muslim too. I don't know why you are so sure that he will be a Jew.
No, all Prophecies say that he will be a Jew. And if you had read the protocols I posted, you would see that the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons speak of crowning their "king of the Jews" which will be the antichrist (and before you say they were speaking of Christ, protocol #14 says that they shall forbid Christ).
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
No, Diego is right about the Jews. You say we shouldn't slam them, yet interestingly you then proceed to admit that they will not be saved. So which is it? Do you think the Jews are good people who will be saved like the Vatican II church says, or do you agree with the Catholic Church that the Jews will not be saved?
I don't believe in slamming people who are not Catholic just for that reason. I believe in Free-Will. I think that we should love all sinners since we are sinners ourselves. Plus I think by loving them they are more likely to convert to Catholicism as oppossed to us trying to play an authoritative role with them by cracking our whips.
Vatican II says the Jews have a chance at Salvation? Please show me that.
Very well. First, JPII said this about the Jews:
Jews are our elder brothers in the faith. "Crossing the Threshold of Hope", 1994
From the Vatican II docuмents:
True, the Jєωιѕн authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ.
The previous two statements contradict Church teachings on Jews. Compare those statements to statements from Saints before Vatican II:
Saint Fulgentius (died A.D. 533): "Hold most firmly and never doubt at all that not only pagans, but also all Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the Catholic Church, will go into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Saint Augustine (died A.D. 430): "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church."
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The Antichrist could possibly be Muslim too. I don't know why you are so sure that he will be a Jew.
No, all Prophecies say that he will be a Jew. And if you had read the protocols I posted, you would see that the ʝʊdɛօ-Masons speak of crowning their "king of the Jews" which will be the antichrist (and before you say they were speaking of Christ, protocol #14 says that they shall forbid Christ).
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
No, Diego is right about the Jews. You say we shouldn't slam them, yet interestingly you then proceed to admit that they will not be saved. So which is it? Do you think the Jews are good people who will be saved like the Vatican II church says, or do you agree with the Catholic Church that the Jews will not be saved?
I don't believe in slamming people who are not Catholic just for that reason. I believe in Free-Will. I think that we should love all sinners since we are sinners ourselves. Plus I think by loving them they are more likely to convert to Catholicism as oppossed to us trying to play an authoritative role with them by cracking our whips.
Vatican II says the Jews have a chance at Salvation? Please show me that.
Very well. First, JPII said this about the Jews:
Jews are our elder brothers in the faith. "Crossing the Threshold of Hope", 1994
From the Vatican II docuмents:
True, the Jєωιѕн authorities and those who followed their lead pressed for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today. Although the Church is the new people of God, the Jews should not be presented as rejected or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ.
The previous two statements contradict Church teachings on Jews. Compare those statements to statements from Saints before Vatican II:
Saint Fulgentius (died A.D. 533): "Hold most firmly and never doubt at all that not only pagans, but also all Jews, all heretics, and all schismatics who finish this life outside of the Catholic Church, will go into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels."
Saint Augustine (died A.D. 430): "No man can find salvation except in the Catholic Church. Outside the Catholic Church one can have everything except salvation. One can have honor, one can have the sacraments, one can sing alleluia, one can answer amen, one can have faith in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost, and preach it too, but never can one find salvation except in the Catholic Church."
I agree.
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I would say if they started increasing in numbers, and started taking positions of power in society...then I would start to become worried, and want to overthrow them.
Virtually the entire Clinton, Bush, and Obama cabinets were/are Judaics. The media is owned/controlled by Judaics. With the exception of Iran and Libya, the central banks of the world and international finance have been controlled disproportionately by Judaics. Abortion, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖism, pornography, slavery, sex slavery, and organized crime are disproportionately Judaic.
Communism was theirs. They boasted of that until the body count became widely known. Now they can't deny their involvement in Communism fast enough.
“Chosen People” (Gavril Princeps and his co-assassins in the ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic Black Hand Lodge) started World War ONE—25 million died.
“Chosen People” (the 1934 Declaration of War of World Jewry against Germany) started World War TWO—60 to 80 million died.
“Chosen People” created (Rabbi Moses Hess and his disciple Marx), financed (Rosenwald, Kuhn, Loeb, Schiff, etc.), propagandized (Ehrenburg, Mikhoels, Khaldei, etc.), exported (Kun, Eisner, Zimanas, Rozanski, Pijade, Rakosi, Olszewsi, etc.), and mostly ran (Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Sverdlov, Litvinov, Andropov, etc.) Communism, their secret police (Dzhezhinsky, Yagoda, Bronstein, Yurovsky, Pauker, Slutsky, gαy, Speigelglas, Babel, etc.), and gulags (the Kaganovich family, Berman, Frenkel, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, etc.)—60 million died in the USSR; if you blame Hess and Marx for Mao, add another 75 million dead.
The ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan is responsible, directly and indirectly, for the murder of nearly a QUARTER BILLION PEOPLE in the 20th century. Islamics didn't come close to that.
How many souls will you let them kill in the 21st century?
GOD warned us about "the leaven of the Pharisees," "the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan," and "the adversaries to all men." He did not say one word about Islam as a future threat. Not one of the Blessed Mother's apparitions in the last two centuries have said one word about Islam. In 1917 Our Lady of Fatima warned us about "the errors of Russia" which at the time had undergone the first of two ʝʊdɛօ-Bolshevist led revolutions.
You don't have to be "Hitler" to be aware of the dangers that they represent to body and soul. Whatever their numbers, they have been a far greater danger to body and soul than the Islamics.
Even if you are a college kid, you are a moron to be in denial about all that.
You would have a lot to prove in order to get someone to agree with you.
Are you suggesting that Gavril Princpes and 4 of the 6 assassins were not Jєωιѕн?
Are you suggesting that World Jewry did not declare war on Germany in 1934?
Are you suggesting that Rabbi Moses Hess, Karl Marx, and all the rest were not Jєωιѕн? Or has nothing to do with Communism? that contemporary World Jewry did not boast that Communism was theirs? that 60 million were not killed by them in the USSR?
Are you suggesting that most of those presidential cabinets were not "Jєωιѕн"?
That God did not warn us about them? that the Blessed Mother didn't warn about their errors?
This article says Karl Marx was not Jєωιѕн...
http://www.jewcy.com/religion-and-beliefs/was_karl_marx_really_Jєωιѕн
Communism breads atheism...not judaism.
One pseudo-datum is your only response? I am thinking you are not an intellectually honest person, just a change agent.
Karl Marx's rabbi was Rabbi Moses Hess.
Here are reliable lists of the OTHER Jєωιѕн Communists as well:
See Part 1, especially “Jєωιѕн TESTIMONY,” at http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/ http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html
Even today, some of the tribe admit their role in Communism:
Stalin's Jews
by Sever Plocker, Published: 12.21.06, 23:35 / Israel Opinion
“We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jєωιѕн…”
http://www.ynet.co.il/english/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
There are other non-Catholic sources:
The Jєωιѕн Role in the Bolshevik Revolution and Russia's Early Soviet Regime: Assessing the Grim Legacy of Soviet Communism by Mark Weber
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html
LOL. So its about numbers only when it best suits you. One response is not good enough? Neither is 13.5 million Jews world wide. Use your head diego. Your just a fiesty guy who wants to push people until they tell you what you want to hear.
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LOL. So its about numbers only when it best suits you. One response is not good enough? Neither is 13.5 million Jews world wide.
The numbers hardly matter, to be truthful. There will be a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr no matter what. It's already here, and it's only going to get worse.
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LOL. So its about numbers only when it best suits you. One response is not good enough? Neither is 13.5 million Jews world wide.
The numbers hardly matter, to be truthful. There will be a nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr no matter what. It's already here, and it's only going to get worse.
I agree. We do know that the Anti-Christ will trick the Jews into believing that He is the Messiah...you say He will be a Jew himself. I can see that the chances are high that he will be Jew, but we don't know that for sure....unless you have some prophecies from the Saints that say otherwise.
I think that right now the Jews are not a threat, but potentially they are just as much of a threat as Muslims who are 1.6 Billion strong.
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The more we joust, the more your intellectual dishonesty shows.
The Holy Trinity has warned us about the Jews—you claimed the number of Islamics matters more.
I gave you massive evidence of Judaic hegemony despite their population—you claimed wrongly that Marx was not Judaic, as if "one pseudo-datum" invalidates the mountain of evidence I provided.
You are dishonest. You are not a practicing Catholic. You are a change agent.
Are you a paid change agent?
ISRAELI HIRES INTERNET SOLDIERS
Saturday, July 18th, 2009
http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/israeli-hires-internet-soldiers/6148/
The Foreign Ministry presents: talkbackers in the service of the State

By: Dora Kishinevski
Calcalist 5 July 2009
http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3319543,00.html
Translated for Occupation Magazine by George Malent
http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=34520
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The more we joust, the more your intellectual dishonesty shows.
The Holy Trinity has warned us about the Jews—you claimed the number of Islamics matters more.
I gave you massive evidence of Judaic hegemony despite their population—you claimed wrongly that Marx was not Judaic, as if "one pseudo-datum" invalidates the mountain of evidence I provided.
You are dishonest. You are not a practicing Catholic. You are a change agent.
Are you a paid change agent?
ISRAELI HIRES INTERNET SOLDIERS
Saturday, July 18th, 2009
http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/israeli-hires-internet-soldiers/6148/
The Foreign Ministry presents: talkbackers in the service of the State

By: Dora Kishinevski
Calcalist 5 July 2009
http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3319543,00.html
Translated for Occupation Magazine by George Malent
http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=34520
Islam is a real threat in this day in age. Israel is potentially just as much of a threat as Islam and yes Judaism is a threat. Nobody is denying that. We can say that we agree on at least one thing.
Your sources are weak. I have read multiple sources that you have posted and either you are taking them the wrong way or you are trying to pass one over on everyone in order to make a point.
No I am not a change agent. I agree with you that Judaism is a threat since many people can be distracted from the real Religion by it.
There may be people who are conspiring for a Jew dominated world. But right now it isn't too many people. How do I know that? Well statistics show that there are only 13.5 million Jews on the entire planet. Common sense tells me that not all of those 13.5 million are conspiring for world power.
Since you are an ignoramus to begin with...[I ripped that from a Jew known as Michael Savage]...it would be better for the Jews [the lesser evil] to control the Holy Land than the Muslims [the greater evil]. Thats why I think we should support Israel. Unless you have a plan to kill all the Jews and claim Israel as a Catholic state. But then that would tell the rest of humanity that it is ok to go to war for religious purposes for the purpose of establishing religious dominance. We don't want that. It would probably cause chaos. Plus the muslims would probably love to justify something like that..."hey they did...so maybe we should too".
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Diego said ---> Some of us are not morons. We actually know that
Speaking about the Jews that lie with their Kol Nidre prayer. NO! Diego not everyone knows that, the way you word things it seems you condemn ALL Jews.
It is only God's place to condemn them.
I agree with IFaith's point that it is the ones that are true тαℓмυdist Jews to fear, not every Jєωιѕн person you happen upon is a тαℓмυdist Jew. Your average Jєωιѕн family might not even know how evil a тαℓмυdist Jew might be, just as your average American does not know how evil a Freemason might be.
Read that phrase quoted from the Bible: Apocalypse, 3;9 "ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—" According to that quote they are not even Jews, just as Vatican II catholic teachings are not Catholic, even though they call themselves catholic; they also lie. Notice the correlation.
Yes, we should fear the true тαℓмυdist "Jew".
Yes, we should also fear some Muslims.
Yes, we should fear Vatican II teachings, because we are told to fear those who kill the soul, not the body. (paraphrasing)
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There may be people who are conspiring for a Jew dominated world. But right now it isn't too many people. How do I know that? Well statistics show that there are only 13.5 million Jews on the entire planet. Common sense tells me that not all of those 13.5 million are conspiring for world power.
It's not just the Jews, it's also the Communists and Freemasons.
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There may be people who are conspiring for a Jew dominated world. But right now it isn't too many people. How do I know that? Well statistics show that there are only 13.5 million Jews on the entire planet. Common sense tells me that not all of those 13.5 million are conspiring for world power.
It's not just the Jews, it's also the Communists and Freemasons.
Since we are talking about why and why we shouldn't vote for Rick Santorum...
and since you said you think Ron Paul is the best candidate...
furthermore...
Did you know that Ron Paul's father was a freemason? This is why he considers himself to be a Libertarian Conservative. He was influenced by his father who held libertarian/freemason ideas.
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Ron Paul is not a Mason, though.
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Ron Paul is not a Mason, though.
And I'm sure Rick Santorum is not a Zionist.
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Ron Paul is not a Mason, though.
And I'm sure Rick Santorum is not a Zionist.
Dude- he thinks that all US schools which do not teach support of the Zionist state should have funding removed. Are you serious? Wake up.
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From the Jєωιѕн Encyclopedia:
text of Kol Nidre
All vows, and prohibitions, and oaths, and consecrations, and konams and konasi and any synonymous terms, that we may vow, or swear, or consecrate, or prohibit upon ourselves, •from the previous Day of Atonement until this Day of Atonement and ...• ♦from this Day of Atonement until the Day of Atonement that will come for our benefit.♦ Regarding all of them, we repudiate them. All of them are undone, abandoned, cancelled, null and void, not in force, and not in effect. Our vows are no longer vows, and our prohibitions are no longer prohibitions, and our oaths are no longer oaths.
Use by αnтι-ѕємιтєs.
The "Kol Nidre" has been one of the means widely used by Jєωιѕн apostates and by enemies of the Jews to cast suspicion on the trustworthiness of an oath taken by a Jew (Wagenseil, "Tela Ignea, Disputatio R. Jechielis," p. 23; Eisenmenger, "Entdecktes Judenthum," vol. ii., ch. ix., pp. 489 et seq., Königsberg, 1711; Bodenschatz, "Kirchliche Verfassung der Heutigen Juden," part ii., ch. v., § 10, Frankfort and Leipsic, 1748; Rohling, "Der тαℓмυdjude," pp. 80 et seq., Münster, 1877); so that many legislators considered it necessary to have a special form of oath administered to Jews ("Jew's oath"), and many judges refused to allow them to take a supplementary oath, basing their objections chiefly on this prayer (Zunz, "G. S." ii. 244; comp. pp. 246, 251). As early as 1240 Jehiel of Paris was obliged to defend the "Kol Nidre" against these charges. It can not be denied that, according to the usual wording of the formula, an unscrupulous man might think that it offers a means of escape from the obligations and promises which he had assumed and made in regard to others.
Refers Only to Individual Vows.
The teachers of the ѕуηαgσgυєs, however, have never failed to point out to their cobelievers that the dispensation from vows in the "Kol Nidre" refers only to those which an individual voluntarily assumes for himself alone (see RoSH to Ned. 23b) and in which no other persons or their interests are involved. In other words, the formula is restricted to those vows which concern only the relation of man to his conscience or to his Heavenly Judge (see especially Tos. to Ned. 23b). In the opinion of Jєωιѕн teachers, therefore, the object of the "Kol Nidre" in declaring oaths null and void is to give protection from divine punishment in case of violation of the vow. No vow, promise, or oath, however, which concerns another person, a court of justice, or a community is implied in the "Kol Nidre." It must be remembered, moreover, that five geonim were against while only one was in favor of reciting the prayer (Zunz, "G. V." p. 390, note a), and furthermore that even so early an authority as Saadia wished to restrict it to those vows which were extorted from the congregation in the ѕуηαgσgυє in times of persecution ("Kol Bo," l.c.); and he declared explicitly that the "Kol Nidre" gave no absolution from oaths which an individual had taken during the year. Judah ben Barzillai, a Spanish author of the twelfth century, in his halakic work "Sefer ha-'Ittim," declares that the custom of reciting the "Kol Nidre" was unjustifiable and misleading, since many ignorant persons believe that all their vows and oaths are annulled through this formula, and consequently they take such obligations on themselves carelessly ("Orḥot Ḥayyim," p. 106a).
Jєωιѕн Opposition.
For the same reason Jeroham ben Meshullam, who lived in Provence about the middle of the fourteenth century, inveighed against those fools who, trusting to the "Kol Nidre," made vows recklessly, and he declared them incapable of giving testimony ("Toledot Adam we-Ḥawwah," ed. 1808, section 14, part iii., p. 88; see Zunz, "G. V." p. 390). The Karaite Judah Hadassi, who wrote the "Eshkol ha-Kofer" at Constantinople in 1148 (see Nos. 139,140 of that work), likewise protested against the "Kol Nidre." Among other opponents of it in the Middle Ages were Yom-Ṭob ben Abraham Isbili (d. 1350) in his "Ḥiddushim"; Isaac ben Sheshet, rabbi in Saragossa (d. 1406), Responsa, No. 394 (where is also a reference to the preceding); the author of the "Kol Bo" (15th cent.); and Leon of Modena (d. 1648 [see N. S. Libowitz, "Leon Modena," p. 33, New York, 1901]). In addition, nearly
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I had a bit of trouble putting this together Sigi- care to comment? I'd like to hear your input before I do... :)
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Ron Paul is not a Mason, though.
And I'm sure Rick Santorum is not a Zionist.
He supports Israel. How is he not a Zionist? You are falling for the lies the Masonic media feeds you.
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I had a bit of trouble putting this together Sigi- care to comment? I'd like to hear your input before I do... :)
I thought it might be both charitable and just to let Jews speak for themselves.
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Ron Paul is not a Mason, though.
And I'm sure Rick Santorum is not a Zionist.
Dude- he thinks that all US schools which do not teach support of the Zionist state should have funding removed. Are you serious? Wake up.
do you have any sources to back this up?
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Ron Paul is not a Mason, though.
And I'm sure Rick Santorum is not a Zionist.
He supports Israel. How is he not a Zionist? You are falling for the lies the Masonic media feeds you.
Just because you support Israel does not mean you are a Zionist. Just because you are a Jew does not mean you are a Zionist.
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InfiniteFaith said:
Just because you support Israel does not mean you are a Zionist.
Lolz.
That is the definition of a Zionist bro.
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InfiniteFaith said:
Just because you support Israel does not mean you are a Zionist.
Lolz.
That is the definition of a Zionist bro.
Ok. I was referring to these Jews who are supposedly trying to establish world domination. Most people in this discussion are connecting Zionism with one world government (Jєωιѕн domination) views. So I have been using the term Zionist in reference to this.
So I guess not all Zionists are trying to establish Jєωιѕн world domination.
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InfiniteFaith said:
Just because you support Israel does not mean you are a Zionist.
Lolz.
That is the definition of a Zionist bro.
I was about to say the same thing. :smile:
The second part of Infinite Faith' comment above is true, though. While most Jews are Zionist, not all are.
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Dude- he thinks that all US schools which do not teach support of the Zionist state should have funding removed. Are you serious? Wake up.
do you have any sources to back this up?
http://www.rense.com/general37/idleg.htm
Hope this helps. I don't know if he's changed his opinion since 2003 but given his recent rhetoric about Israel and Palestine I doubt it.
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Don't worry about Santorum. Ron Paul will save us. He is going to eliminate all taxes and all restrictions on big business, because we all know that trickle-down economics works like gangbusters. That is why Apple pays Chinese people two cents per 22-hour day to build Iphones, leading to no manufacturing jobs in the United States, destroying consumption which in turn eats through more jobs -- no one to go to restaurants, buy big-screen TVs, pay for overpriced houses, etc.
Ron Paul is the biggest snake-oil salesman of them ALL. Even Obama makes more sense than this con artist. What he does is play on a primary hatred of the Fed, but it should be clear to anyone that America's ilusory wealth is only based on our manipulations of other nations through this same Fed. Basically the Fed pumped money into our system, giving the illusion of prosperity and endless growth. This led to the rest of the world thinking America was a superpower and accepting the dollar ( at gunpoint basically ) as fiat money, and the rest is infamous history, Europe is going to go down in flames along with us. We're all in debt to our eyeballs, crooked and overextended to the point of obscenity.
The neo-cons sell trickle-down economics and globalism, but Ron Paul is even more ludicrous when he says he's going to abolish the Fed. If this were done, America would collapse overnight. What is keeping us going, though on a shoestring, are our various manipulations of other nations through our status as the hub of globalism and of the democratic way of life. End the Fed, you end any pretense of America being somehow necessary to anyone else; and they would let us drop and burn. They are going to do that anyway but the process would only be accelerated DRASTICALLY by ending the Fed. You can't just push a button on a clock and go back to 1776 in this way, even if that were desirable, which it's not ( I prefer 1356 ).
The fact that we have fiat money and have convinced the world we are essential and necessary is the only reason this nation isn't in smoking ruins like Greece right now. Ron Paul plays on a kind of rustic isolationism and misguided paranoid patriotism that ignores the political reality of the time. He is the same order of figure as Alex Jones, both having failed to assess the real nature of the beast -- that is, that the beast is us.
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The third-ranking Republican member of the U.S. Senate, conservative Rick Santorum (Pa.), plans to introduce so-called "ideological diversity" legislation that would cut federal funding for thousands of American colleges and universities if those institutions are found to be permitting professors, students and student organizations to openly criticize Israel, which Santorum considers to be an act of "anti-Semitism."
Santorum is just another Novus Ordo neo-Pharisee—similar to our local change agent, Israel's internet soldier and "talk backer."
ISRAELI HIRES INTERNET SOLDIERS
Saturday, July 18th, 2009
http://rinf.com/alt-news/contributions/israeli-hires-internet-soldiers/6148/
Straight out of Avigdor Lieberman’s Foreign Ministry: a new Internet Fighting Team! Israeli students and demobilized soldiers get paid to pretend they are just regular folks and leave pro-Israel comments on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube and other sites. The effort is meant to fight the “well-oiled machine” of “pro-Palestinian websites, with huge budgets… with content from the Hamas news agency.” The approach was test-marketed during Israel’s assault on Gaza, and by groups like Give Israel Your United Support, a controversial effort to use instant-access technology to crowd-source Israel advocates to fill in flash polls or vote up key articles on social networking sites.
Will the responders who are hired for this also present themselves as “ordinary net-surfers”?
“Of course,” says Shturman. “Our people will not say: ‘Hello, I am from the policy-explanation department of the Israeli Foreign Ministry and I want to tell you the following.’ Nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis. They will speak as net-surfers and as citizens, and will write responses that will look personal but will be based on a prepared list of messages that the Foreign Ministry developed.”
The full article, translated by Occupation Magazine into English here:
The Foreign Ministry presents: talkbackers in the service of the State

By: Dora Kishinevski
Calcalist 5 July 2009
http://www.calcalist.co.il/internet/articles/0,7340,L-3319543,00.html
Translated for Occupation Magazine by George Malent
http://www.kibush.co.il/show_file.asp?num=34520
After they became an inseparable part of the service provided by public-relations companies and advertising agencies, paid Internet talkbackers are being mobilized in the service in the service of the State. The Foreign Ministry is in the process of setting up a team of students and demobilized soldiers who will work around the clock writing pro-Israeli responses on Internet websites all over the world, and on services like Facebook, Twitter and Youtube. The Foreign Ministry’s department for the explanation of Israeli policy is running the project, and it will be an integral part of it. The project is described in the government budget for 2009 as the “Internet fighting team” – a name that was given to it in order to distinguish it from the existing policy-explanation team, among other reasons, so that it can receive a separate budget. Even though the budget’s size has not yet been disclosed to the public, sources in the Foreign Ministry have told Calcalist that in will be about NIS 600.000 in its first year, and it will be increased in the future. From the primary budget, about NIS 200.000 will be invested in round-the-clock activity at the micro-blogging website Twitter, which was recently featured in the headlines for the services it provided to demonstrators during the recent disturbances in Iran.
See also:
http://informationclearinghouse.info/article23027.htm
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3744516,00.html
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Yes, I know Ron Paul is nominally against abortion and Obama is for it, I'm not saying to vote for Obama, I'm saying Obama's use of the printing press makes more practical sense -- since it is too late to stop -- than Ron Paul's posturing for the John Birch types, playing on the same naive idealism that got us in this mess in the first place ( but arrogant naivete is the defining trait of America, so it's fitting we're going out this way ).
Ron Paul is most alike to Marine Le Pen in France, who sells a peculiar French form of naive patriotism. The similarity is that both of them are completely unrealistic and try to have it both ways. Marine Le Pen supports the Republic and even pro-choice "rights," but she plays on the hatred of illegal immigrants to restore "the true values of France." As if kicking out illegal immigrants is all that it's going to take to put France on its feet. It sounds good to a certain segment of the population, but it's really just another fraud. Ron Paul is another dealer in half-truths, but his have the unfortunate distinction of being actually absurd. Ending the Fed is like cutting off someone's head because he has brain cancer. At least if you leave the head intact, the cancer will kill him more slowly!
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Raoul,
So, if you don't mind my asking, who are you going to vote for?
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Ron Paul is the biggest snake-oil salesman of them ALL. Even Obama makes more sense than this con artist.
Nonsense.
What he does is play on a primary hatred of the Fed, but it should be clear to anyone that America's ilusory wealth is only based on our manipulations of other nations through this same Fed.
Ron Paul isn't the only one who wants to audit the Fed, Raoul. Heck, John F Kennedy wanted to audit the Fed, and interestingly he was killed...
The neo-cons sell trickle-down economics and globalism, but Ron Paul is even more ludicrous when he says he's going to abolish the Fed. If this were done, America would collapse overnight.
Proof?
They are going to do that anyway but the process would only be accelerated DRASTICALLY by ending the Fed. You can't just push a button on a clock and go back to 1776 in this way, even if that were desirable, which it's not ( I prefer 1356 ).
They didn't want anything like the Fed in 1776, that's for sure.
Ron Paul plays on a kind of rustic isolationism and misguided paranoid patriotism that ignores the political reality of the time. He is the same order of figure as Alex Jones, both having failed to assess the real nature of the beast -- that is, that the beast is us.
This shows that you don't know what the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is about. Ron Paul and Alex Jones have both failed to assess the real beast, huh? Do you even know anything about the beast and the 666? Read the Apocalypse.
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Don't worry about Santorum. Ron Paul will save us. He is going to eliminate all taxes and all restrictions on big business, because we all know that trickle-down economics works like gangbusters. That is why Apple pays Chinese people two cents per 22-hour day to build Iphones, leading to no manufacturing jobs in the United States, destroying consumption which in turn eats through more jobs -- no one to go to restaurants, buy big-screen TVs, pay for overpriced houses, etc.
Ron Paul is the biggest snake-oil salesman of them ALL. Even Obama makes more sense than this con artist. What he does is play on a primary hatred of the Fed, but it should be clear to anyone that America's ilusory wealth is only based on our manipulations of other nations through this same Fed. Basically the Fed pumped money into our system, giving the illusion of prosperity and endless growth. This led to the rest of the world thinking America was a superpower and accepting the dollar ( at gunpoint basically ) as fiat money, and the rest is infamous history, Europe is going to go down in flames along with us. We're all in debt to our eyeballs, crooked and overextended to the point of obscenity.
The neo-cons sell trickle-down economics and globalism, but Ron Paul is even more ludicrous when he says he's going to abolish the Fed. If this were done, America would collapse overnight. What is keeping us going, though on a shoestring, are our various manipulations of other nations through our status as the hub of globalism and of the democratic way of life. End the Fed, you end any pretense of America being somehow necessary to anyone else; and they would let us drop and burn. They are going to do that anyway but the process would only be accelerated DRASTICALLY by ending the Fed. You can't just push a button on a clock and go back to 1776 in this way, even if that were desirable, which it's not ( I prefer 1356 ).
The fact that we have fiat money and have convinced the world we are essential and necessary is the only reason this nation isn't in smoking ruins like Greece right now. Ron Paul plays on a kind of rustic isolationism and misguided paranoid patriotism that ignores the political reality of the time. He is the same order of figure as Alex Jones, both having failed to assess the real nature of the beast -- that is, that the beast is us.
Printing off lots of money would destroy this great country in the long run. Obama and the democrats are saboteurs when it comes to running the economy. Its so stupid to the point where I think they are intentionally spending all kinds of money and creating more money so that they may be seriously trying to ruin this country. Either that or they really don't know how to balance a check book. I think they are mad at the Republicans and that is their way of getting back at them...by going on a shopping spree and throwing a pity party. Then letting the Republicans mop up the mess. The only reason why our economy went down in the first place was because of higher gas prices and we were drastically increasing military personal because of the wars we were in. The war itself caused prices to go up. I remember when I worked at the Home Depot, and lumber prices shot up drastically because they needed lumber for the war.
I think by drastically reducing the Federal government the economy could get better. But I am against jobs going over seas.
Ron Paul is not a bad pick, but I still prefer Santorum because He is Catholic. I like his stances on a few issues as well.
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Don't worry about Santorum. Ron Paul will save us. He is going to eliminate all taxes and all restrictions on big business, because we all know that trickle-down economics works like gangbusters. That is why Apple pays Chinese people two cents per 22-hour day to build Iphones, leading to no manufacturing jobs in the United States, destroying consumption which in turn eats through more jobs -- no one to go to restaurants, buy big-screen TVs, pay for overpriced houses, etc.
Ron Paul is the biggest snake-oil salesman of them ALL. Even Obama makes more sense than this con artist. What he does is play on a primary hatred of the Fed, but it should be clear to anyone that America's ilusory wealth is only based on our manipulations of other nations through this same Fed. Basically the Fed pumped money into our system, giving the illusion of prosperity and endless growth. This led to the rest of the world thinking America was a superpower and accepting the dollar ( at gunpoint basically ) as fiat money, and the rest is infamous history, Europe is going to go down in flames along with us. We're all in debt to our eyeballs, crooked and overextended to the point of obscenity.
The neo-cons sell trickle-down economics and globalism, but Ron Paul is even more ludicrous when he says he's going to abolish the Fed. If this were done, America would collapse overnight. What is keeping us going, though on a shoestring, are our various manipulations of other nations through our status as the hub of globalism and of the democratic way of life. End the Fed, you end any pretense of America being somehow necessary to anyone else; and they would let us drop and burn. They are going to do that anyway but the process would only be accelerated DRASTICALLY by ending the Fed. You can't just push a button on a clock and go back to 1776 in this way, even if that were desirable, which it's not ( I prefer 1356 ).
The fact that we have fiat money and have convinced the world we are essential and necessary is the only reason this nation isn't in smoking ruins like Greece right now. Ron Paul plays on a kind of rustic isolationism and misguided paranoid patriotism that ignores the political reality of the time. He is the same order of figure as Alex Jones, both having failed to assess the real nature of the beast -- that is, that the beast is us.
It is clear that Ron Paul is NOT the Messiah, the USA is NOT the Promised Land, and the US Constitution and Bill of Rights are NOT the inspired Word of God.
Ron Paul is allegedly a Freemason and he certainly adheres to "Austrian" (read "JUDAIC") economics with all the attendant usury and "whatever the market will bear" rapaciousness—unjust wages, unjust prices. He is "personally" against abortion, but where else have we heard that baloney before?
He is anti-war and he would intrude less in our lives. I would argue that a Ron Paul presidency (I am not holding my breath) might buy us a little time to better prepare to protect our loved ones. Whoopee.
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Don't worry about Santorum. Ron Paul will save us. He is going to eliminate all taxes and all restrictions on big business, because we all know that trickle-down economics works like gangbusters. That is why Apple pays Chinese people two cents per 22-hour day to build Iphones, leading to no manufacturing jobs in the United States, destroying consumption which in turn eats through more jobs -- no one to go to restaurants, buy big-screen TVs, pay for overpriced houses, etc.
Ron Paul is the biggest snake-oil salesman of them ALL. Even Obama makes more sense than this con artist. What he does is play on a primary hatred of the Fed, but it should be clear to anyone that America's ilusory wealth is only based on our manipulations of other nations through this same Fed. Basically the Fed pumped money into our system, giving the illusion of prosperity and endless growth. This led to the rest of the world thinking America was a superpower and accepting the dollar ( at gunpoint basically ) as fiat money, and the rest is infamous history, Europe is going to go down in flames along with us. We're all in debt to our eyeballs, crooked and overextended to the point of obscenity.
The neo-cons sell trickle-down economics and globalism, but Ron Paul is even more ludicrous when he says he's going to abolish the Fed. If this were done, America would collapse overnight. What is keeping us going, though on a shoestring, are our various manipulations of other nations through our status as the hub of globalism and of the democratic way of life. End the Fed, you end any pretense of America being somehow necessary to anyone else; and they would let us drop and burn. They are going to do that anyway but the process would only be accelerated DRASTICALLY by ending the Fed. You can't just push a button on a clock and go back to 1776 in this way, even if that were desirable, which it's not ( I prefer 1356 ).
The fact that we have fiat money and have convinced the world we are essential and necessary is the only reason this nation isn't in smoking ruins like Greece right now. Ron Paul plays on a kind of rustic isolationism and misguided paranoid patriotism that ignores the political reality of the time. He is the same order of figure as Alex Jones, both having failed to assess the real nature of the beast -- that is, that the beast is us.
It is clear that Ron Paul is NOT the Messiah, the USA is NOT the Promised Land, and the US Constitution and Bill of Rights are NOT the inspired Word of God.
Ron Paul is allegedly a Freemason and he certainly adheres to "Austrian" (read "JUDAIC") economics with all the attendant usury and "whatever the market will bear" rapaciousness—unjust wages, unjust prices. He is "personally" against abortion, but where else have we heard that baloney before?
He is anti-war and he would intrude less in our lives. I would argue that a Ron Paul presidency (I am not holding my breath) might buy us a little time to better prepare to protect our loved ones. Whoopee.
So who should we vote for since, in your mind, Santorum and Paul are out of the question?
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In view of the extensive evidence of ballot fraud, why participate in the fraud at all? Your participation is an endorsement.
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In view of the extensive evidence of ballot fraud, why participate in the fraud at all? Your participation is an endorsement.
EXACTLY. The voting is rigged.
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(http://revoltoftheplebs.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/santorum_mask.jpg?w=300&h=235&h=235)
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Rick Santorum may be a man of decent moral character himself, but he does not strike me as the second coming of Dr. Gabriel García Moreno.
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I'm voting for Rick Santorum in case the election really isn't rigged. Nobody can prove whether or not an election is rigged. There were cօռspιʀαcιҽs with one of Bush's elections with the voting machines...but it is not proven.
Diego,
I hope you aren't saying those things because of some kind of hidden agenda. If Obama wins again...this country is screwed. We all know what he is about, and the things he is about will ruin this country down the road. If Santorum wins then this country stands a chance in the long run. Barring any cօռspιʀαcιҽs, I am voting Santorum in hopes that He will defeat Obama. If I don't vote at all then that means Obama has a stronger chance.
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You, the Zionist shill, ask if I have an agenda. What a joke.
Bush, Obama, Santorum—who can tell the difference? The goyische puppets do what they are told.
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LOL, first of all Santorum can't beat Obama because he doesn't draw Independants. Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are the only two that can.
That's beside the point though. If you believe in the NWO then why would rigged elections come as a surprise to you? You don't think Iowa and Maine were rigged after what they did to Ron Paul there? And I agree with Diego. Santorum may be better than Obama, but "better" doesn't cut it. They're all part of the same agenda.
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LOL, first of all Santorum can't beat Obama because he doesn't draw Independants. Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are the only two that can.
That's beside the point though. If you believe in the NWO then why would rigged elections come as a surprise to you? You don't think Iowa and Maine were rigged after what they did to Ron Paul there? And I agree with Diego. Santorum may be better than Obama, but "better" doesn't cut it. They're all part of the same agenda.
Maybe we, as the people, need to overthrow the federal government.
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LOL, first of all Santorum can't beat Obama because he doesn't draw Independants. Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are the only two that can.
That's beside the point though. If you believe in the NWO then why would rigged elections come as a surprise to you? You don't think Iowa and Maine were rigged after what they did to Ron Paul there? And I agree with Diego. Santorum may be better than Obama, but "better" doesn't cut it. They're all part of the same agenda.
Maybe we, as the people, need to overthrow the federal government.
The world is so far gone now that only a chastisement will get rid of all the evil.
A revolt wouldn't be a bad idea, but the problem with that is the government is already prepared for one. They have FEMA camps set up and have hired foreign troops.
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It is clear that Ron Paul is NOT the Messiah, the USA is NOT the Promised Land, and the US Constitution and Bill of Rights are NOT the inspired Word of God.
Ron Paul is allegedly a Freemason and he certainly adheres to "Austrian" (read "JUDAIC") economics with all the attendant usury and "whatever the market will bear" rapaciousness—unjust wages, unjust prices. He is "personally" against abortion, but where else have we heard that baloney before?
He is anti-war and he would intrude less in our lives. I would argue that a Ron Paul presidency (I am not holding my breath) might buy us a little time to better prepare to protect our loved ones. Whoopee.
Diego, if I may ask, you clearly don't agree entirely with Ron Paul's policies, and even core beliefs like his economic platform, which is his strongest selling point. So, why, similarly, is it not possible for a Catholic who in no way embraces Zionist errors to support Rick Santorum for other things?
I personally think Santorum may not be completely sold on Zionism. Heck, he may never have even heard the true Catholic teaching on the subject. For another, he seems concerned with all sorts of foreign policy issues, which agree with him or not, from North Korea to Venezuela to Afghanistan to Nicaragua, have little or nothing to do with Israel. So I don't think it's unreasonable to believe he would put American interests well above Israelite ones.
Santorum can't beat Obama because he doesn't draw Independants.
Santorum has won Independents and Democrats before. His re-election in Pennsylvania depended on it. Everyone said he had no chance all of last year, how'd that turn out again?
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Diego, if I may ask, you clearly don't agree entirely with Ron Paul's policies, and even core beliefs like his economic platform, which is his strongest selling point. So, why, similarly, is it not possible for a Catholic who in no way embraces Zionist errors to support Rick Santorum for other things?
I personally think Santorum may not be completely sold on Zionism. Heck, he may never have even heard the true Catholic teaching on the subject. For another, he seems concerned with all sorts of foreign policy issues, which agree with him or not, from North Korea to Venezuela to Afghanistan to Nicaragua, have little or nothing to do with Israel. So I don't think it's unreasonable to believe he would put American interests well above Israelite ones.
Zionism isn't Santorum's only error, for one thing. And any way you slice it, supporting Zionist Jews who are part of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is 10 times more dangerous than libertarianism.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2GnXWh_H1o&feature=share
Also, I got the following from another source:
"RICK SANTORUM EXPOSED!!!
By now, people SHOULDN'T be needing this. However, for all of those who haven't done their due diligence, THIS is what type of Monster Rick Santorum REALLY is. ALL of these Facts are verifiable, at site provided. When are the people going to AWAKEN and Realize that Ron Paul is the ONLY one without a shady background? Ron Paul is the ONLY one who won't give your $$$ away to bankster scuм; the ONLY one who isn't a warmonger, for banks' benefit and only further crippling you; the ONLY one who wouldn't have you arrested Forever and/or Killed WITHOUT a trial or even charges against you; the ONLY one Proven to Honor the Constitution & Bill of Rights that made this nation THE WORLD'S BEST! Spread the Good Word, My Countrymen: ★ WE WILL ALL WIN WITH RON PAUL AS OUR PRESIDENT ... NOT JUST THE ONLY CHOICE, BUT THE BEST CHOICE WE COULD IMAGINE!! ★
Rick Santorum: What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/
Time to Take Down Santorum's Disguise
http://www.dailypaul.com/213706/time-to-take-down-santorums-disguise
Rick Santorum was the Top Recipient from Lobbyists in 2006
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?Ind=K02&cycle=2006
Rick Santorum, 'Stealth Lobbyist'
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/rick-santorum-stealth-lobbyist/story?id=15298204#.TzyJRVGKWSo
HOT: Santorum was named "Most Corrupt" senator by watchdog group in 2006
http://www.dailypaul.com/198638/hot-santorum-was-named-most-corrupt-senator-by-watchdog-group-in-2006
Rick Santorum: Top-tier on Most Corrupt Member of Congress List 2 Years Running
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-washington-dc/rick-santorum-top-tier-on-most-corrupt-member-of-congress-list-2-years-running
Santorum's Strange Ties to Sandusky/Penn State Child Molestation Scandal: Wayen Madsen Reports 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzh-jpCRUyE
Santorum's Strange Ties to Sandusky/Penn State Scandal: Wayne Madsen Reports 2/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67ET6Z6ft8
Santorum: Eradicate the Muslims
http://www.infowars.com/santorum-eradicate-the-muslims/
The Real Dirt on Slick Rick Santorum
The most comprehensive review of Santorum's big-government hypocrisy and corruption on the web.
http://www.nolanchart.com/article9242-the-real-dirt-on-slick-rick-santorum.html
Santorum says killing Americans good, but killing Iranians is wonderful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0imqLFtPk4s
The Rick Santorum that America doesn't know
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/The-Santorum-that-America-doesnt-know.html
Why Rick Santorum’s Pennsylvania Residency Scam and School Tuition Fraud Still Matters – And Why He Can’t Be the Nominee Because of It
http://hillbuzz.org/why-rick-santorums-pennsylvania-residency-scam-and-school-tuition-fraud-still-matters-and-why-he-cant-be-the-nominee-because-of-it-95754
Santorum Exposed
http://www.dailypaul.com/197258/santorum-exposed
The trouble with my uncle, Rick Santorum
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/03/the-trouble-with-my-uncle-rick-santorum/
Ron Paul Destroys Rick Santorum On Iran - Iowa Republian Presidential Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3JkUm0zLww
Santorum hearts Bush and Rumsfeld
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZSSTxgeXKI
Santorum wants you to suffer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekd2HzI6Bfw
It's a shame that Rick Santorum thinks that Christians are supposed to suffer. It appears that he's just another puppet claiming to be a Christian to fool the people. If he truly believes in and trusts God, I hope and pray that he starts reading his Bible.
Santorum singles out Blacks for entitlement reform
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLMghcPDVs
Santorum hearts Bush and Rumsfeld
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZSSTxgeXKI
Santorum Exposed Ad - Lobbyists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz1Ty8VxEqA
Rick Santorum promotes a big government and the stupid war on drugs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bQhPQdaeI
Rick Santorum Slammed by WeAreChange - Ron Paul and Lt. Colonel Schaffer Assist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnMzFk5qa80
Report: Rick Santorum's Fiscal Record Not in Line with Tea Party
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-santorums-fiscal-record-not-in-line-with-tea-party/
Santorum's voting record at odds with tea party's fiscal philosophy
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/14/2641738/santorums-voting-record-at-odds.html
Rick Santorum - Tea Party Phony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3TVoVqvt74
Santorum Has ‘Concerns’ About Women in Combat Because of ‘Emotions That Are Involved’
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/02/10/422741/santorum-women-combat-emotions/
Rick Santorum: Women shouldn't serve in combat because of "emotions"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLIZCuSlL8E
Rick Santorum: Ron Paul is ‘disgusting’
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/rick-santorum-ron-paul-is-disgusting/2012/01/03/gIQAPFtNYP_blog.html?wpisrc=nl_pmfix
Rick Santorum pretended to be a veteran
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/FROTHY_GAP_BASHER.png "
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2GnXWh_H1o&feature=share
Also, I got the following from another source:
"RICK SANTORUM EXPOSED!!!
By now, people SHOULDN'T be needing this. However, for all of those who haven't done their due diligence, THIS is what type of Monster Rick Santorum REALLY is. ALL of these Facts are verifiable, at site provided. When are the people going to AWAKEN and Realize that Ron Paul is the ONLY one without a shady background? Ron Paul is the ONLY one who won't give your $$$ away to bankster scuм; the ONLY one who isn't a warmonger, for banks' benefit and only further crippling you; the ONLY one who wouldn't have you arrested Forever and/or Killed WITHOUT a trial or even charges against you; the ONLY one Proven to Honor the Constitution & Bill of Rights that made this nation THE WORLD'S BEST! Spread the Good Word, My Countrymen: ★ WE WILL ALL WIN WITH RON PAUL AS OUR PRESIDENT ... NOT JUST THE ONLY CHOICE, BUT THE BEST CHOICE WE COULD IMAGINE!! ★
Rick Santorum: What A Big Government Conservative Looks Like
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2012/01/06/what-a-big-government-conservative-looks-like/
Time to Take Down Santorum's Disguise
http://www.dailypaul.com/213706/time-to-take-down-santorums-disguise
Rick Santorum was the Top Recipient from Lobbyists in 2006
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?Ind=K02&cycle=2006
Rick Santorum, 'Stealth Lobbyist'
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/rick-santorum-stealth-lobbyist/story?id=15298204#.TzyJRVGKWSo
HOT: Santorum was named "Most Corrupt" senator by watchdog group in 2006
http://www.dailypaul.com/198638/hot-santorum-was-named-most-corrupt-senator-by-watchdog-group-in-2006
Rick Santorum: Top-tier on Most Corrupt Member of Congress List 2 Years Running
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-washington-dc/rick-santorum-top-tier-on-most-corrupt-member-of-congress-list-2-years-running
Santorum's Strange Ties to Sandusky/Penn State Child Molestation Scandal: Wayen Madsen Reports 1/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzh-jpCRUyE
Santorum's Strange Ties to Sandusky/Penn State Scandal: Wayne Madsen Reports 2/2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b67ET6Z6ft8
Santorum: Eradicate the Muslims
http://www.infowars.com/santorum-eradicate-the-muslims/
The Real Dirt on Slick Rick Santorum
The most comprehensive review of Santorum's big-government hypocrisy and corruption on the web.
http://www.nolanchart.com/article9242-the-real-dirt-on-slick-rick-santorum.html
Santorum says killing Americans good, but killing Iranians is wonderful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0imqLFtPk4s
The Rick Santorum that America doesn't know
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/The-Santorum-that-America-doesnt-know.html
Why Rick Santorum’s Pennsylvania Residency Scam and School Tuition Fraud Still Matters – And Why He Can’t Be the Nominee Because of It
http://hillbuzz.org/why-rick-santorums-pennsylvania-residency-scam-and-school-tuition-fraud-still-matters-and-why-he-cant-be-the-nominee-because-of-it-95754
Santorum Exposed
http://www.dailypaul.com/197258/santorum-exposed
The trouble with my uncle, Rick Santorum
http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/03/the-trouble-with-my-uncle-rick-santorum/
Ron Paul Destroys Rick Santorum On Iran - Iowa Republian Presidential Debate
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3JkUm0zLww
Santorum hearts Bush and Rumsfeld
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZSSTxgeXKI
Santorum wants you to suffer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekd2HzI6Bfw
It's a shame that Rick Santorum thinks that Christians are supposed to suffer. It appears that he's just another puppet claiming to be a Christian to fool the people. If he truly believes in and trusts God, I hope and pray that he starts reading his Bible.
Santorum singles out Blacks for entitlement reform
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLMghcPDVs
Santorum hearts Bush and Rumsfeld
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZSSTxgeXKI
Santorum Exposed Ad - Lobbyists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz1Ty8VxEqA
Rick Santorum promotes a big government and the stupid war on drugs!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9bQhPQdaeI
Rick Santorum Slammed by WeAreChange - Ron Paul and Lt. Colonel Schaffer Assist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnMzFk5qa80
Report: Rick Santorum's Fiscal Record Not in Line with Tea Party
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-santorums-fiscal-record-not-in-line-with-tea-party/
Santorum's voting record at odds with tea party's fiscal philosophy
http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/02/14/2641738/santorums-voting-record-at-odds.html
Rick Santorum - Tea Party Phony
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3TVoVqvt74
Santorum Has ‘Concerns’ About Women in Combat Because of ‘Emotions That Are Involved’
http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/02/10/422741/santorum-women-combat-emotions/
Rick Santorum: Women shouldn't serve in combat because of "emotions"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLIZCuSlL8E
Rick Santorum: Ron Paul is ‘disgusting’
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/rick-santorum-ron-paul-is-disgusting/2012/01/03/gIQAPFtNYP_blog.html?wpisrc=nl_pmfix
Rick Santorum pretended to be a veteran
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a361/mzcmdr/FROTHY_GAP_BASHER.png "
Now explain why each and every one of these things are bad.
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They pretty much speak for themselves.
Infinite"Faith", are you a crypto-Jew?
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Now explain why each and every one of these things are bad.
Really? You can't understand why all of those things are bad?
Let me ask you something out of curiosity, InfiniteFaith. What do you think of George Bush Sr and Jr?
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The truth is, all the candidates are very imperfect in different ways, so why argue about who is your favorite, as long as you vote, because a no vote, is a vote for Obama, the worse of the bunch. He was "kind" these first 4 years, but he will turn into a dictator his last 4 because he has nothing to lose.
Anyway you look at it we are in for a whirlwind ride and we are in this boat together.
"Happy Presidents Day"
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The truth is, all the candidates are very imperfect in different ways, so why argue about who is your favorite, as long as you vote, because a no vote, is a vote for Obama, the worse of the bunch.
They'll rig it, most likely.
The problem is, even if Romney gets elected, that's still a victory for the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. The protocols I posted a week ago say specifically that they name presidents. That's why Ron Paul has no chance, he would ruin everything they're aiming for. So to keep him from being the nominee, they have to rig the votes. He no doubt won Iowa, and probably won Maine as well.
What they do every election is pick the two at the top -- the top Republican and the top Democrat and let the American people choose between them. If you look at the 2004 election between Bush and Kerry, they were both asked on LIVE TV if they were "skull and bones" members, to which they both sort of chuckled and said they were but that they couldn't talk about it. So no matter who won that election, it hardly mattered. Either way the NWO would continue to make progress.
You are right Myrna that Obama is the worst of them all. But someone like Romney isn't going to provide as much change from Obama's presidency as he claims. They're all for the NWO, with a few exceptions such as Ron Paul. Santorum probably doesn't knowingly support the NWO, but his stance on war helps it whether he realizes it or not.
My point? No matter who wins the election in 2012, America is toast until the chastisement comes.
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Infinite Faith, you really are a shill.
I am not wasting any more time on you.
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I am not voting.
To vote is to endorse a system that is corrupt in its entirety.
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The truth is, all the candidates are very imperfect in different ways, so why argue about who is your favorite, as long as you vote, because a no vote, is a vote for Obama, the worse of the bunch.
They'll rig it, most likely.
The problem is, even if Romney gets elected, that's still a victory for the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. The protocols I posted a week ago say specifically that they name presidents. That's why Ron Paul has no chance, he would ruin everything they're aiming for. So to keep him from being the nominee, they have to rig the votes. He no doubt won Iowa, and probably won Maine as well.
What they do every election is pick the two at the top -- the top Republican and the top Democrat and let the American people choose between them. If you look at the 2004 election between Bush and Kerry, they were both asked on LIVE TV if they were "skull and bones" members, to which they both sort of chuckled and said they were but that they couldn't talk about it. So no matter who won that election, it hardly mattered. Either way the NWO would continue to make progress.
You are right Myrna that Obama is the worst of them all. But someone like Romney isn't going to provide as much change from Obama's presidency as he claims. They're all for the NWO, with a few exceptions such as Ron Paul. Santorum probably doesn't knowingly support the NWO, but his stance on war helps it whether he realizes it or not.
My point? No matter who wins the election in 2012, America is toast until the chastisement comes.
I agree....Romney would destroy this country....based on the thing I have read in this thread...it seems that Santorum would expand the federal government in certain ways yet shrink the federal government in other ways. I think with him it's not so much of an overall expansion of federal government but rather a restructuring of a federal government. With Romney your definitely going to get an overall expansion of the federal government. Any type of nationalized healthcare is going to take up a large chunk of the federal spending budget...which means sacrifices in the military and other social programs. In the long run people would be angry so the federal government would raise taxes. Anyways...Romney/Obamacare would expand the federal government by a lot.
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And speaking of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, does no one else find it interesting that the two times George Bush Sr publicly called for a NWO were on September 11th? First NWO speech from Bush was on 9/11 1990, second and final one was on 9/11 1991. A coincidence? I highly doubt it. And Romney is good friends with the Bush family? That's scary.
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And speaking of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, does no one else find it interesting that the two times George Bush Sr publicly called for a NWO were on September 11th? First NWO speech from Bush was on 9/11 1990, second and final one was on 9/11 1991. A coincidence? I highly doubt it. And Romney is good friends with the Bush family? That's scary.
If you really think about it...why even try to resist the inevitable? we know that eventually there will be a one world government, and the antichrist will come during this time...so why try to make moves (whether by voting or whatever) to delay the inevitable?
Im voting Santorum.
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What else do you need to know?
It claims to be Catholic and yet it thinks cooperation with evil is OK because the evil is "inevitable."
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What else do you need to know?
It claims to be Catholic and yet it thinks cooperation with evil is OK because the evil is "inevitable."
Don't forget its a Israel loving robot!
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What else do you need to know?
It claims to be Catholic and yet it thinks cooperation with evil is OK because the evil is "inevitable."
Its in the Bible...you ever heard of the Bible before?
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You are a little Satan.
Quote the chapter and verse that says we must cooperate with evil because it is inevitable.
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You are a little Satan.
Quote the chapter and verse that says we must cooperate with evil because it is inevitable.
Daniel 11...that is where it talks about the end of the world and how their will be no sovereignty left (One World Government).
Your not that smart.
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I am not voting.
To vote is to endorse a system that is corrupt in its entirety.
You are too young to vote, anyway.
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Nowhere in the Book of Daniel were God's people encouraged to cooperate with evil because they could not change it. Should the three Hebrew Children not have gone into the furnace and "voted" for the king because resistance was futile? We are Catholics, not Borg.
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Nowhere in the Book of Daniel were God's people encouraged to cooperate with evil because they could not change it. Should the three Hebrew Children not have gone into the furnace and "voted" for the king because resistance was futile? We are Catholics, not Borg.
The fact that the Bible says that there will one day be a one world government suggests that there is nothing we can do to change that. Why? because everything the Bible says is the truth. Nothing in the Bible has ever shown that it was possible to avoid a prophetic outcome.
Should we try to delay the inevitable? I don't really know. I would just leave it up to God.
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By all means leave the future to God. In the here and now, however, it is never okay to ignore evil or to cooperate with it.
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And speaking of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, does no one else find it interesting that the two times George Bush Sr publicly called for a NWO were on September 11th? First NWO speech from Bush was on 9/11 1990, second and final one was on 9/11 1991. A coincidence? I highly doubt it. And Romney is good friends with the Bush family? That's scary.
If you really think about it...why even try to resist the inevitable? we know that eventually there will be a one world government, and the antichrist will come during this time...so why try to make moves (whether by voting or whatever) to delay the inevitable?
Im voting Santorum.
That makes no sense. That's practically the equivalent of saying "It's inevitable that the antichrist is coming, so I may as well adhere to the religion of the antichrist". You seem to be forgetting that it is God who will triumph, not satan, and those who do not worship God will not be saved. So why just give in?
A NWO may be inevitable, but that doesn't mean we should give into it. God will only allow it to go so far.
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And speaking of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr, does no one else find it interesting that the two times George Bush Sr publicly called for a NWO were on September 11th? First NWO speech from Bush was on 9/11 1990, second and final one was on 9/11 1991. A coincidence? I highly doubt it. And Romney is good friends with the Bush family? That's scary.
If you really think about it...why even try to resist the inevitable? we know that eventually there will be a one world government, and the antichrist will come during this time...so why try to make moves (whether by voting or whatever) to delay the inevitable?
Im voting Santorum.
That makes no sense. That's practically the equivalent of saying "It's inevitable that the antichrist is coming, so I may as well adhere to the religion of the antichrist". You seem to be forgetting that it is God who will triumph, not satan, and those who do not worship God will not be saved. So why just give in?
A NWO may be inevitable, but that doesn't mean we should give into it. God will only allow it to go so far.
There is nothing we can do to stop it. I'm not saying to give into it.
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You are a little Satan.
Quote the chapter and verse that says we must cooperate with evil because it is inevitable.
Daniel 11...that is where it talks about the end of the world and how their will be no sovereignty left (One World Government).
Your not that smart.
"Your" is a possessive adjective.
"You're" is a contraction of "You are."
Daniel 11 concerns Antiochus as a type of the anti-Christ.
Catholics are not allowed to cooperate with sin, even by inaction.
You're not that smart, but you're a little Satan.
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You are a little Satan.
Quote the chapter and verse that says we must cooperate with evil because it is inevitable.
Daniel 11...that is where it talks about the end of the world and how their will be no sovereignty left (One World Government).
Your not that smart.
"Your" is a possessive adjective.
"You're" is a contraction of "You are."
Daniel 11 concerns Antiochus as a type of the anti-Christ.
Catholics are not allowed to cooperate with sin, even by inaction.
You're not that smart, but you're a little Satan.
Diego,
You are an individual who is full of hate. I wish the best for you, and I think it is probably best that we stop debating with each other in this thread. I sense that you are starting to get upset, and I think that we should not go any further. I hope all is well, and I hope that everything goes well for a while. I will be praying so that you may receive healing for that dark spot on your soul. I hope to continue having our discussions on other topics, and I hope we can develop a friendship on this website.
PAX CHRISTI
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Mary's Immaculate Heart will triumph in the end but that doesn't mean many souls won't be tormented in Hell forever. The battle is over souls, Satan knows he's going to lose in the end. How could he not know?
We must always be watchful of our behavior and motives and beware of falling into snares. Is it inevitable that the "NWO" will triumph in the interim? Possible but improbable. Since we're in a thread with Rick Santorum's name, I'll complete this sentence with a "quote" from Sarah Palin: Is there a greater snare for Catholics than the NWO? You betcha!
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You are a little Satan.
Quote the chapter and verse that says we must cooperate with evil because it is inevitable.
Daniel 11...that is where it talks about the end of the world and how their will be no sovereignty left (One World Government).
Your not that smart.
"Your" is a possessive adjective.
"You're" is a contraction of "You are."
Daniel 11 concerns Antiochus as a type of the anti-Christ.
Catholics are not allowed to cooperate with sin, even by inaction.
You're not that smart, but you're a little Satan.
Diego,
You are an individual who is full of hate. I wish the best for you, and I think it is probably best that we stop debating with each other in this thread. I sense that you are starting to get upset, and I think that we should not go any further. I hope all is well, and I hope that everything goes well for a while. I will be praying so that you may receive healing for that dark spot on your soul. I hope to continue having our discussions on other topics, and I hope we can develop a friendship on this website.
PAX CHRISTI
Yes, I am full of hate for sin, heresy, and devils.
Maybe you "sense" that because you promote sin, heresy, and behave as a little Satan promoting cooperation with sin and heresy, most particularly Zionism's NWO. Certainly I have my own "dark spots," but I suggest you look to the beam in your own eye.
As best I can discern you are a change agent, whether for Santorum personally or Zionism in general I cannot yet say. Your handlers have not done a very effective job of teaching you how to impersonate a Catholic.
The only blessing about your presence here is that, while you are here, you are not subverting susceptible innocent souls elsewhere.
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You are a little Satan.
Quote the chapter and verse that says we must cooperate with evil because it is inevitable.
Daniel 11...that is where it talks about the end of the world and how their will be no sovereignty left (One World Government).
Your not that smart.
"Your" is a possessive adjective.
"You're" is a contraction of "You are."
Daniel 11 concerns Antiochus as a type of the anti-Christ.
Catholics are not allowed to cooperate with sin, even by inaction.
You're not that smart, but you're a little Satan.
Diego,
You are an individual who is full of hate. I wish the best for you, and I think it is probably best that we stop debating with each other in this thread. I sense that you are starting to get upset, and I think that we should not go any further. I hope all is well, and I hope that everything goes well for a while. I will be praying so that you may receive healing for that dark spot on your soul. I hope to continue having our discussions on other topics, and I hope we can develop a friendship on this website.
PAX CHRISTI
Yes, I am full of hate for sin, heresy, and devils.
Maybe you "sense" that because you promote sin, heresy, and behave as a little Satan promoting cooperation with sin and heresy, most particularly Zionism's NWO. Certainly I have my own "dark spots," but I suggest you look to the beam in your own eye.
As best I can discern you are a change agent, whether for Santorum personally or Zionism in general I cannot yet say. Your handlers have not done a very effective job of teaching you how to impersonate a Catholic.
The only blessing about your presence here is that, while you are here, you are not subverting susceptible innocent souls elsewhere.
Have a nice day Diego.