Catholic patriots like my good friend and fellow Vietnam combat vet Hugh Akins (https://ca-rc.com/about-the-author ) who advised Catholics not to vote for Trump even if he was considered by many good Catholics to be the lesser of two evils. (Perhaps, that is the reason why Matthew stopped openly supporting Hugh's great quarterly publication  Oportet Christum Regnare which unfortunately folded due to lack of support by tradCats.)

I didn't know that about Hugh Akins. I must say I'm most disappointed to hear that he's one of those.

Guess what? It's your turn to MISREAD me, get me DEAD WRONG, etc.
As a matter of fact, I advertised his Oportet magazine on here every single month until HE folded his magazine. I was disappointed to hear it was shutting down.

Trad Catholics not signing up for subscriptions is another matter; it had nothing to do with me. On the contrary, I did my part to promote it.

That having been said, I don't think I'd promote any magazine that bashes Trump within its pages. And I just lost some respect for Hugh Akins. I'm sure he knows a lot, and has written some good books with some great information. But his decision to advise Catholics to not vote for Trump is EXTREMELY STUPID. I am very disappointed.

Does Hugh Akins still feel that way about Trump? But even if his opinion of Trump has improved over the past 3 years (like it did for me), the fact is that Trump had released a list *before the 2016 Election* of Supreme Court Justices he would appoint if he became President. That alone was a good enough reason to vote for him in 2016, even if he WAS mostly an unknown.

I didn't know that about Hugh Akins. I must say I'm most disappointed to hear that he's one of those.

Guess what? It's your turn to MISREAD me, get me DEAD WRONG, etc.
As a matter of fact, I advertised his Oportet magazine on here every single month until HE folded his magazine. I was disappointed to hear it was shutting down.

Trad Catholics not signing up for subscriptions is another matter; it had nothing to do with me. On the contrary, I did my part to promote it.

That having been said, I don't think I'd promote any magazine that bashes Trump within its pages. And I just lost some respect for Hugh Akins. I'm sure he knows a lot, and has written some good books with some great information. But his decision to advise Catholics to not vote for Trump is EXTREMELY STUPID. I am very disappointed.

Does Hugh Akins still feel that way about Trump? But even if his opinion of Trump has improved over the past 3 years (like it did for me), the fact is that Trump had released the list of Supreme Court Justices he would appoint *before the 2016 election*. That alone was reason enough to vote for him in 2016, even if he WAS an unknown.

I will PM you on some of what you say here since it directly conflicts with with what Hugh informed me of.

As for losing respect for Hugh Akins for bashing Trump, what in the world do you think you have done on various occasions?  You, yourself,  have bashed Trump a lot and rightly so!

As far as being disappointed to hear that Hugh advised people not to vote for Trump back in 2016, (although he made it quite clear that he respected people who did and he never ever advocated voting for the witch), you apparently never took the time to read the material he put out explaining why exactly he did not advocate voting for Trump.  I assume he would make it available to you if you requested it of him.

In any event, you seem to take a knee jerk reaction to people like myself who bash Trump by assuming that we would not vote for him.  That is not necessarily the case at all.  If you or anyone else can prove otherwise be my guest.

I am not sure if Hugh is still advising folks to refrain from voting for Trump or not.  The bottom line, however, is that if someone refuses to vote for anyone in the 2020 election as opposed to voting for Trump that in and of itself does not make them any less a Catholic patriot for that decision of theirs whatsoever.  If you have solid Catholic Doctrine that you can present to prove otherwise I am all ears.  In the meantime it would be nice if you would refrain from putting people down who may wish to refrain from voting for Trump.

Here are Hugh's words from a couple days ago. I have every right to be disappointed in someone's ignorance, imprudence, and short-sightedness.

I see [Trump] as a warmongering, mass murdering, Israeli/Zionist psychopath who is determined to start WWIII for Israel and help the Jews finish off what remains of Christian civilization.
What most people do not understand is that the Deep State/Washington DC Swamp is not liberal or left wing only, but has both a right and left wing, comprising of liberals as well as so-called conservatives, so that absolute lunatics like Bush and Trump are very much a part of the Deep State's right wing.  We should never overlook the massive crimes against humanity committed by such "conservatives" any more than we would the liberals.  In my humble opinion, a vote for Trump is therefore a vote for the very real Antichristian Conspiracy of the secret societies that are America's Hidden Rulers; it's a vote for the Antichrist, the Elders of Zion and and their ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan.

Basically, he sees no difference between Trump and George Bush. He and I would be in perfect agreement about the two-party political farce in America in, say, 2015. There was indeed little to no difference between Bush and Clinton. But Hugh fails to see that things changed in 2016. That is insane! Sorry Hugh, and sorry Klas, but the facts just don't match up! He needs to pick a better alternative news source, because his current one is just feeding him CRAZY NONSENSE.

WHY THEN has there been such a sea change in how the Media, congress (BOTH PARTIES), etc. treat Trump?
I was alive during the Bush presidencies. It was night-and-day different from the panicked defense the Deep State is putting up these days.

Was Bush impeached on trumped-up charges? (pardon the pun)
Did the Democrats mobilize immediately to impeach Bush (Sr. or Jr.) the day after his Inauguration?
Why does the entire Deep State presidential dynasty (Bush/Clinton/Obama) all detest Trump with a passion? Trump is CLEARLY not part of their "club".

Trump is also clean as a whistle as far as CRIMES and CORRUPTION go. Unlike the rest of the Deep State "swamp" -- which Hugh is right, it does cut across both political parties. But Trump is not part of it.

Like I said: ignorant and stupid. Hugh might be a great guy, a great Catholic, but reality is reality. There is this pesky thing called objective reality, which one's opinions and theories MUST ACCOUNT FOR or one deserves to be called unrealistic, crazy, stupid, or something along those lines.

What do you call a nice guy who is so wrong about objective reality? Maybe "silly" is the nicest way to put it?

Hugh thinks the good done by Trump is negligible, to the point where Catholics shouldn't and even MUST NOT vote for him. That simply isn't true. He needs to open his eyes to OBJECTIVE REALITY, not the "reality" painted by the kooks he reads for his alternative news.

Rense is not a good source for news, for example. Just because it's run by a guy out of his basement, is counter-cultural, or opposes the Mainstream Media narrative DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY make it true! Truth is determined by how well something lines up with OBJECTIVE REALITY.

For example, Hugh speaks of Trump pushing for WW3. Let's see, Trump has averted war numerous times already -- he has taken the path of peace over war 100% of the time. Just for starters, he had plenty of chances for war with Russia, North Korea, Syria, and recently Iran. EACH AND EVERY TIME we had a surprise peace break out instead. That wasn't by accident. That is the Plan of the "Patriots" who are working together with Trump to destroy the Deep State.

And each time Trump has performed any small military action, it was probably aimed at the Deep State operatives (to uproot them) rather than the "official reason" given to the Media. You have to look at the outcome and the reality, not just the appearances. You can't weed a garden 2-years overgrown with weeds without getting your hands dirty.

The number of pro-life and pro-nation/anti-globalist actions taken by Trump SO FAR already number in the hundreds.

In my opinion, Trump is the best president since Nixon. However, he should not take our votes for granted. If he gets us involved in stupid wars or continues to coerce other countries into accepting the LGBTQP agenda, we need to rebuke him and potentially withhold our votes for him if necessary. 

Quote from: klasG4e on January 07, 2020, 09:54:35 PM
Catholic patriots like my good friend and fellow Vietnam combat vet Hugh Akins (https://ca-rc.com/about-the-author ) who advised Catholics not to vote for Trump even if he was considered by many good Catholics to be the lesser of two evils. (Perhaps, that is the reason why Matthew stopped openly supporting Hugh's great quarterly publication  Oportet Christum Regnare which unfortunately folded due to lack of support by tradCats.)

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I didn't know that about Hugh Akins. I must say I'm most disappointed to hear that he's one of those.

Guess what? It's your turn to MISREAD me, get me DEAD WRONG, etc.
As a matter of fact, I advertised his Oportet magazine on here every single month until HE folded his magazine. I was disappointed to hear it was shutting down.

Trad Catholics not signing up for subscriptions is another matter; it had nothing to do with me. On the contrary, I did my part to promote it.

That having been said, I don't think I'd promote any magazine that bashes Trump within its pages. And I just lost some respect for Hugh Akins. I'm sure he knows a lot, and has written some good books with some great information. But his decision to advise Catholics to not vote for Trump is EXTREMELY STUPID. I am very disappointed.

Does Hugh Akins still feel that way about Trump? But even if his opinion of Trump has improved over the past 3 years (like it did for me), the fact is that Trump had released a list *before the 2016 Election* of Supreme Court Justices he would appoint if he became President. That alone was a good enough reason to vote for him in 2016, even if he WAS mostly an unknown.

You say, "I didn't know that about Hugh Akins." And you go on to say, "I don't think I'd promote any magazine that bashes Trump within its pages."  Well, you certainly would have known that about Hugh Akins, if you read or even just skimmed his Oportet magazine which you praised/advertised/promoted quite profusely on CathInfo!  He repeatedly hammered home the points about Trump while at the same time in no way ever advocating for witch Hilary or any of the Dems.  He made it abundantly clear he was against them as well and why he was.  Bp. Williamson also publicly praised/advertised/promoted the magazine and never took the strong umbrage or any umbrage whatsoever to Akins' commentary on Trump as you do here.

Hugh thinks the good done by Trump is negligible, to the point where Catholics shouldn't and even MUST NOT vote for him. That simply isn't true. He needs to open his eyes to OBJECTIVE REALITY, not the "reality" painted by the kooks he reads for his alternative news.

Rense is not a good source for news, for example. Just because it's run by a guy out of his basement, is counter-cultural, or opposes the Mainstream Media narrative DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY make it true! Truth is determined by how well something lines up with OBJECTIVE REALITY.

For example, Hugh speaks of Trump pushing for WW3. Let's see, Trump has averted war numerous times already -- he has taken the path of peace over war 100% of the time. Just for starters, he had plenty of chances for war with Russia, North Korea, Syria, and recently Iran. EACH AND EVERY TIME we had a surprise peace break out instead. That wasn't by accident. That is the Plan of the "Patriots" who are working together with Trump to destroy the Deep State.

And each time Trump has performed any small military action, it was probably aimed at the Deep State operatives (to uproot them) rather than the "official reason" given to the Media. You have to look at the outcome and the reality, not just the appearances. You can't weed a garden 2-years overgrown with weeds without getting your hands dirty.

The number of pro-life and pro-nation/anti-globalist actions taken by Trump SO FAR already number in the hundreds.

You say that Hugh thinks Catholics "MUST NOT" vote for Trump.  That's true if they have a better alternative.  Hugh believes that the better alternative is not to vote at all if it's simply a choice of the pro-abortion Dem and the pro-war Trump. Sure, you may think otherwise, but that doesn't make you right.  There is nothing in the principles of Catholic patriotism which when applied requires one to vote for Trump as opposed to not voting at all.  If you disagree be my guest in definitively proving otherwise.

Once again, it is you who are not seeing things in a realistic objective sense if you think Trump who has led us to the brink of war so often keeps us out of war.  Can't you even see that his economic sanctions are economic warfare that result in the deaths of innocent people?  Can't you see that his violation of Syria's sovereignty including firing cruise missiles at them is warfare against Syria?  Can't you see that his assassination of the Iranian general is an open act of war just as much as their assassination of one of our generals outside the Toronto airport would be?  Avoiding war?  Ask the families of those Americans who still continue to come home in body bags from the Middle East about Trump keeping us out of war.  Bogus wars against terrorism are still wars!   Think Putin, not Trump if you want to know who's kept us out of major shooting wars including a World War III.  (Bp. W for one would certainly agree with me.)  If Putin acted and reacted like Trump does you probably would have already had your WW III.

You uncharitably smear Hugh's good name by making it appear that he is dependent upon kooks for his world view. Anyone who has read his monumental work ѕуηαgσgυє Rising and or his Oportet Christum Regnare magazine would know that is simply not so -- not so by a long shot (or by your cheap shot).

Over and over again in this post and so many others you want us to think that Trump is at major odds with the Deep State.  The litmus test is Israel.  Qui bono?  Trump has joined his administration at the hip with Israel to an extent, hardly to have been imagined by previous administrations and he makes no bones about it.  He even brags about it.  That is a man doing the will of the Deep State.  If he went against Israel in any substantial way, the Deep State could and surely would eliminate him in a heart beat -- and don't kid yourself -- he knows that all too well.

There are far too many gullible Americans who believe (and who can blame them for really wanting to believe) that Trump is at substantial odds with the Deep State.  He isn't, although the theatrics and all the rallies keep a whole lot of folks believing he is. 

Trump has never been any sort of serious threat against the Deep State, nor short of divine intervention (not very likely) will he ever be.  At most he plays the part of a theatrical controlled opposition -- controlled by the Deep State.  That said, Trump could get an Oscar for his performance.

Matthew, no need to deride Hugh Akins by questioning his Catholic Patriotism or good common sense.  He was fighting the Commies before you were in your mother's womb and he's been a leader in strong no nonsense Catholic Action ever since.
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