Author Topic: Bin Laden Dead (Read 19525 times)

herbert · « **Reply #30 on:** May 02, 2011, 02:59:47 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Give me a break. I guess they're retiring this particular boogeyman, who had a longer run than Dracula and Freddy Kreuger combined.

raoul, i respectfully disagree. dracula story has been around for over a century, and kreuger since mid-90's, so i would say that your statement, though meaning well, is a bit of exaggeration.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #31 on:** May 02, 2011, 03:42:13 PM »

:rahrah:

Goodbye Vandeler. You never had anything actually decent to contribute anyway.

We won't miss you here!

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #32 on:** May 02, 2011, 03:45:44 PM »

I think he'd like AQ better since the people there think the NWO is just a big laugh.

Anyway, I don't like how these ignortant people are cheering in the streets. They've been fooled by our government, first of all. No telling how long Bin Laden as been dead. And it's a sin to cheer over a person's death, even if they are an evil person.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #33 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:27:22 PM »

The cheering American hordes are probably computer generated. Why bother celebrating now, isn't Osama killed every two years or so? The funniest part for me are the articles saying that Al Qaida No. 2 has been killed. This must have happened two dozen times by now. Of course, when you kill one No. 2, another No. 2 arises to take his place.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #34 on:** May 02, 2011, 11:37:06 PM »

You guys ever think the NWO actually puts the real story out there once in a while to throw off those who automatically and immediately think everything they put out there is hogwash? It would be the perfect plan! Actually tell the truth and the conspiracy theorists automatically think it is a lie and disbelieve it! Food for thought... :tinfoil:

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #35 on:** May 03, 2011, 10:15:38 AM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

You guys ever think the NWO actually puts the real story out there once in a while to throw off those who automatically and immediately think everything they put out there is hogwash? It would be the perfect plan! Actually tell the truth and the conspiracy theorists automatically think it is a lie and disbelieve it! Food for thought... :tinfoil:

How can you trust a government that doesn't really give a flip what the American people want? Most Americans made it quite clear that they didn't want the health care bill and Obama passed it anyway. You'd just prefer to keep your head in the sand. And this isn't a real story. Bin Laden I'm sure has been dead for years. He wasn't even the "mastermind" behind 9/11.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #36 on:** May 03, 2011, 11:18:07 AM »

Yes, Stevus, I believe there are certain false cօռspιʀαcιҽs that are put out there.

One of the devil's lures is to take those who are waking up out of the "Matrix" and corner them into a sort of paranoid, negative, conpiracy-obsessed mindset. These people make the existence of cօռspιʀαcιҽs, which they call "the truth," their sole religion. Alex Jones, David Icke and the like are the destructive media entities who mop up this sub-section of humanity.

But if you don't believe in Christ, like Icke, what difference does it make if a bunch of old politicians congregate in Northern California and burn effigies underneath a giant owl? What do they have to offer that is better than the giant owl? Usually some vague mumbo-jumbo about liberation from slavery, maybe even, in the case of David Icke, liberation from the "reptiles," and other sci-fi-meets-the-American Revolution-inflected hogwash.

Though I have the reputation as a conspiracy obsessive, I'd like it to be noted that I never became concerned with ( a ) "Plumes of radiation" from Fukushima reaching America ( b ) The swine flu vaccine ( c ) The BP pipeline incident.

These are what I believe to be true cօռspιʀαcιҽs: ( a ) The h0Ɩ0cαųst ( b ) The 20th century World Wars in general, along with the elimination of the Catholic kings ( c ) Vatican II ( d ) The moon landings ( e ) Evolution ( f ) 9/11 and Osama, etc.

As far as the Fed and the banking system, I don't know if I'd call that a conspiracy so much as foolish short-term greed that made a lot of people rich, but is going to ruin their successors -- not that the designers of this ridiculous financial system cared about that. A lot of what is happening is really based on greed and lust and pride ( it's all connected, get the big job to make the money to get access to women ), rather than people consciously doing evil in order to enthrone Satan or whatever.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #37 on:** May 03, 2011, 12:53:12 PM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

You guys ever think the NWO actually puts the real story out there once in a while to throw off those who automatically and immediately think everything they put out there is hogwash?

Of course they do. In this case, Bin Laden is, in fact, dead -- but he has been dead for years.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #38 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:01:48 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Though I have the reputation as a conspiracy obsessive, I'd like it to be noted that I never became concerned with ( a ) "Plumes of radiation" from Fukushima reaching America ( b ) The swine flu vaccine ( c ) The BP pipeline incident.

So noted...although you are wrong, in a way and to a degree, on all three counts.

Notable radiation has already reached the US -- and will continue to do so. The swine flu vaccine was exposed by a European employee of the manufacturer who happened to do an extra test, finding that a MASSIVE amount was clearly and intentionally tainted in a way that would have done incalculable damage. BP and the gov't clearly colluded to cover up the severity of the problem, so it is undeniable that there was conspiratorial behavior on SOME level. Many BP whistleblowers have died. Why?

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #39 on:** May 03, 2011, 01:06:14 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

The cheering American hordes are probably computer generated.

Unlikely. They are just kewl-aided to the max...

It is just 'reality' within the 1984-Brave-New-World-Fraudvillian Matrix...

Raoul76 · « **Reply #40 on:** May 03, 2011, 02:34:57 PM »

gladius_veritatis said:

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So noted...although you are wrong, in a way and to a degree, on all three counts.

It wouldn't be the first time... But I don't think so :cool:

On the subject of planted, pseudo-cօռspιʀαcιҽs, I was just cleaning out a closet with tons of my dad's old books ( I'm selling the house, as I've said many times ) and came across All the President's Men.

Watergate! There is the classic "conspiracy behind a conspiracy." People were made to believe that Nixon was spying on his rivals and that this was a huge scandal. As if our party system isn't rigged anyway, and as if anyone really has the choice who is President. It's sort of like complaining about the policy of the Israel government vis-a-vis a certain violent action, when the real conspiracy is the existence of what shouldn't exist, this same Israeli government, in the first place.

So many ills come from people not asking themselves the right questions, and therefore being unable to see the big picture. The result is they get bogged down in useless manufactured controversies. Osama Bin Laden being dead or alive is one of them. Who cares? All we need to know is that America is utterly corrupt as is the U.N. and that to maintain profit they go into third-world countries and destabilize the governments in the name of "democracy." If they unearth one vengeance-minded Musulman named Bin Laden or a whole horde of them, what's the difference? The result is the same -- they have kicked over the hornet's nest.

Whenever it seems like a conspiracy has been averted or a scandal uncovered by the mainstream press, it's almost always in order to push some subliminal message, in the case of Watergate, that our government is usually fair and and has integrity. Nixon spying on his opponents went too far but everyone else is squeaky-clean :wink:

But my way of figuring out cօռspιʀαcιҽs is to see everything through a Catholic lens, rather than a "truther" lens because Catholicism IS the truth. Catholicism is what's being waged war upon ultimately. This is why I often state, to deafening silence, that the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr is not in the future but in the past, the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr began after World War I and involves the elimination of the Catholic governments and the installation of a universal "peace-making" organization like the U.N., which in a way is a sort of anti-Church and which Vatican II is merely a puling, pathetic vassal of ( listen to their language ).

Sure, the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr could be further perfected under Anti-Christ, nevertheless, we're already in it.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 03, 2011, 02:53:36 PM »

Some of my conspiracy theories might seem a little strange. For instance, I strongly believe, along with Michael Hoffman, that many of these events are ritualized. I'd go farther and call them symbolic boasts of the devil.

John F. Kennedy's assassination, for instance. Many believe it was politically motivated, that he was going to end the Fed and so they had to get rid of him. He wasn't going to end jack, though, Presidents are nothing but puppets. However, Hoffman is right that there is a "killing of the king" motif going on there. It is also notable that he was the only Catholic president, or nominal Catholic which is all that really matters. A Catholic president i.e. king = a symbolic stand-in for Christ to be eliminated publicly.

Jack the Ripper, the Moon Landings, 9/11 and the death of Princess Diana also bear all the marks of occult rituals. If JFK was a boast of Satan about killing off Jesus, Princess Diana was most likely a sort of symbolic stand-in for the Virgin Mary or perhaps the Church itself. The occult nature of that one is not even hidden, she even died in a tunnel which in the occult stands for spiritual transfiguration, Orpheus and Eurydice, all these themes the occultists love to play with.

This sounds too crazy to believe, yet one thing you have to know about the devil is that he is the ape of God, and just as God set up a Church with RITUALS, the devil stages his own rituals, often through the media and through the arts, that sort of reflect his plans and schemes in a dream-like subliminal way, almost as if he's trying to immerse people in his sick mind.

Texe Marrs, though a Protestant, pointed this out about the space program. Apollo, a representation of Satan, is rescued in the Apollo 13 staged ritual; while Challenger NUMBER SEVEN, representing God and with a teacher inside representing Christ, is blown up. Likewise, Building NUMBER SEVEN was blown-up during 9/11. While Catholics don't play with numbers in this way, the devil does, and he convinces his dupes there is some significance to these moronic games.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #42 on:** May 03, 2011, 02:56:59 PM »

Just to add more to my windbaggery, things like the JFK killing and 9/11 and the moon landings are meant to look fake, there are deliberate holes in the official stories. This is what Hoffman calls "revelation of the method." This is meant to create psychological trauma among the populace, because when they know that something is wrong, and then go back to ignoring it out of cowardice or human respect, the devil has their minds and souls just a bit more tightly in his grip.

What is the devil's main goal? To make people displeasing to God. Well, do you think God enjoys willfully ignorant, cowardly people who flee the truth in order to pop Viagra, stuff their faces and drive Mercedes-Benzes?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #43 on:** May 03, 2011, 03:55:47 PM »

Here's my thoughts on some conspiracy theories I have yet to touch up on.

The BP gulf oil spill was intentional. There are several things that make this quite clear. About two weeks before the oil spill, BP sold all of its stock. Now that's rather interesting. Something else is that it has already been proven that the oil isn't really gone. They're using a substance that only breaks it down so small that you can't even see it. This apparently wipes out the loop current and affects the jet stream, causing crazy weather along the east coast (and southeast).

I'm not 100% certain that the swine flu vaccines were dangerous, but considering the average vaccine contains a bunch of junk in it, I wouldn't be surprised. These vaccines can cause Autism, cancer, and other diseases. What the government refuses to tell us is that Vitamin D3 works 10x better than any vaccine they throw out at us.

And while we're on the subject, the swine flu was lab-created. There are about 1300 germ labs in the United States (look it up if you don't believe me). These labs are where this diseases come from. Not just the swine flu, but the regular flu, lime disease, AIDS, and West Nile virus all come from here. The main one is located in Plum Island up north near New York City (and stevus, you can look that up on Wikipedia). Pretty soon they'll be moving it to either Kansas or Nebraska (I think it's Kansas). That will be a disaster waiting to happen. Think of how many tornadoes move through there during the spring, summer, and early fall months. If one hits there, those germs will get spread everywhere.

Bottom line is this: No one can escape the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr. Until God intervenes and puts an end to it, everyone will be forced to accept the NWO whether they like it or not. These are more than just "conspiracy theories". It's time the for the sheeple to wake up.

Caminus · « **Reply #44 on:** May 03, 2011, 04:09:02 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Just to add more to my windbaggery, things like the JFK killing and 9/11 and the moon landings are meant to look fake, there are deliberate holes in the official stories. This is what Hoffman calls "revelation of the method." This is meant to create psychological trauma among the populace, because when they know that something is wrong, and then go back to ignoring it out of cowardice or human respect, the devil has their minds and souls just a bit more tightly in his grip.

What is the devil's main goal? To make people displeasing to God. Well, do you think God enjoys willfully ignorant, cowardly people who flee the truth in order to pop Viagra, stuff their faces and drive Mercedes-Benzes?

But these "holes" designed by the satanic ritualists can be discerned by reason alone, by men who are already deceived by Satan, many to a very large degree. This is not a Catholic interpretation, but rather a preternatural interpretation of history that imposes a rubric and then seizes upon self-serving evidence. On the contrary, a Catholic interpretation of history is based on the fundamental truth that there are only two Kingdoms on earth, one is the Kingdom of God, to which good Catholics belong, the other is the Kingdom of Satan, to which all others belong. Inflicting "psychological trauma" on fellow members of the Kingdom of Satan doesn't square with a Catholic conception of history.