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Offline AMDG forever

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Re: Australia is a mess.
« Reply #60 on: December 05, 2024, 02:34:08 AM »
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  • Interesting that you didn't answer my questions, but had the time and inclination to make a snide remark about Michael.

    You expressed no skepticism that Pope Leo X's approval was required for publication.

    I'll ask again slightly re-phrased—Isn't Pope Leo X's approval of the Bomberg тαℓмυd publication subversive?

    NO! Imprudent, but certainly not subversive, if what you intended to suggest, by using that word, that he was some sort of infiltrator.

    Now, you said that Pope Leo X actually “funded” the project, do you have a reliable Catholic source?

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    « Reply #61 on: December 05, 2024, 03:30:22 AM »
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  • As if allowing the Bomberg тαℓмυd edition's publication isn't treacherous and subversive enough???

    As if "Freedom of Speech" is a Catholic principle???

    How do you assess reliability?

    Hoffman discusses the Bomberg тαℓмυd and related subversions in great detail in his book:
    The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990954722/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0990954722&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />
    I read Hoffman's book. I cross-referenced and corroborated a few of his salient claims and I am convinced in large degree by Hoffman's thesis, namely that The Church hierarchy was infected with тαℓмυdic/kabbalistic influence. That influence festered, trickled down to the Faithful with stereotypical incrementalism, weakened The Church, and exploded at Vatican 2.

    A side note:

    Let me say this in advance, nearly every time anyone mentions Hoffman, the cranks come put of the woodwork with their calumnies against him. I know Michael and consider him a friend. In the past I have spent days of effort defending him from calumnies. If it happens again, I will not address the calumnies. Instead I will let the calumniators go uncorrected to their personal judgments so that they may discover the truth and suffer their justice and all attendant excruciations. 'nuff said.
    I have just reread this book. It's even more enlightening the second time around.

    If you want to understand why the 19th and 20th century papacies never mentioned the Jews, the terrible (for the Church) concordat between Napoleon and Rome, the (implied) conditions for the Pius IX Rothschild loan, the Leo XIII ralliement to the French Republic,  it's an excellent read. 

    French readers can also read Philip Prevost's "L'Eglise et le Ralliement" mentioned here in this excellent interview on Two Cities podcast https://youtu.be/HU9REXei-yE?

    No traditional catholic has refuted any of the claims made by Hoffman. It's abundantly clear that we need to return to a pre renaissance type of Catholicsm. 




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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #62 on: December 05, 2024, 04:33:23 AM »
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  • I have just reread this book. It's even more enlightening the second time around.

    If you want to understand why the 19th and 20th century papacies never mentioned the Jєωs, the terrible (for the Church) concordat between Napoleon and Rome, the (implied) conditions for the Pius IX Rothschild loan, the Leo XIII ralliement to the French Republic,  it's an excellent read.

    French readers can also read Philip Prevost's "L'Eglise et le Ralliement" mentioned here in this excellent interview on Two Cities podcast https://youtu.be/HU9REXei-yE?

    No traditional catholic has refuted any of the claims made by Hoffman. It's abundantly clear that we need to return to a pre renaissance type of Catholicsm.


    Any book without an imprimatur that deals with religious matters, but especially one that criticizes the Church,  can’t (without committing a sin) be read by any faithful Catholic. You people are allowing your deep seated hatred of the Jєωs to be fueled at the expense of your Catholicism.

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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #63 on: December 05, 2024, 04:50:42 AM »
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  • Why abortions rose after Roe was overturned -
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/abortions-rose-roe-overturned-why-rcna181094


    Like I said, I've read all this before and I know your a snake... I call both yours and their bluff, both of you are short sighted, which is good... drink thy own poison.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."


    What? no God Bless me false piety?.

    Here's what I said:

    As if your denial of realities, (1) what Fr. MacFarland correctly taught in his sermon and (2) my doing my Catholic duty, makes me "stupid and short-sighted" and now also "missing the forest for the trees."

    No. A few of us have accused Trump of being 94% pro-abortion. Tragically Arizona passed the abortion right amendment, so "another domino fell." The USA is moving towards the 94% abortion that your idol Trump wants… As some have noted, a few states prohibit abortion. So, the location of abortions changed and you celebrate that. Meanwhile, as Fr. MacFarland explicitly stated in his sermons, both the total number of surgical and chemical abortions [by telemedicine prescription] have INCREASED since the Dobbs decision.… and you feign that you see "the forest."

    You are plum nuts. Take your lithium and stop spreading poison in the flock.

    You stated :


    Why abortions rose after Roe was overturned -
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/abortions-rose-roe-overturned-why-rcna181094


    Like I said, I've read all this before and I know your a snake... I call both yours and their bluff, both of you are short sighted, which is good... drink thy own poison.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."



    You, the Judaizer, offered Jєωιѕн-run NBC news as your source. Your Jєωιѕн source offered the Gutmacher Institute, NBC's "got to" pro-abortion Jєωιѕн lobby who stated this:

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    Abortions went up last year and the country’s fertility rate hit a historic low.

    More than 1 million abortions were recorded in the United States in 2023 — the highest in a decade, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a research group that supports abortion access. …Much of the story, it turns out, comes down to a small network of medical providers who found ways to prescribe and ship abortion pills around the country from places where they’re still legal.

    That was only possible because of significant action taken by the Food and Drug Administration during the pandemic, which allowed the pills to be dispensed via telemedicine. Then, in the wake of the ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, eight states passed laws that protected providers from being sued for prescribing abortion pills virtually to people from other states.

    “The obstacles are actually lower than before Dobbs,” said Dr. Rebecca Gomperts, the Dutch physician who founded Aid Access, an organization that mails abortion medications to individuals who request them. “For people that didn’t have the financial resources or the infrastructure, the logistical structures in place to go to a clinic … I think the landscape now is much better.”

    So, your Jєωιѕн source quotes another Jєωιѕн source and the internationally infamous Jєωιѕн abortionist Gompoerts.

    Who is Gomperts? She is the doctor who bought a ship, outfitted it for abortion, and anchored just outside the legal jurisdiction of anti-abortion nations. She then shuttled pregnant women onto her ship to have their babies killed. She especially targeted Irish and Polish Catholic babies for murder.

    In 2021 [more recent archive versions have already been scrubbed from the (((Wayback Machine)))] here is what my Abortion is from the Jєωs page said about Gomperts: https://tinyurl.com/45ybfwjh

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    April 29, 2016, Another Jєωιѕн monster specializes in murdering goyische children, especially Catholic children, using off-shore abortion ships and internet-ordered pills.  [Emphasis added]
    Abortion in Europe: Dr. Rebecca Gomperts Takes Entrepreneurial Approach by Cassandra Vinograd
    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/europes-abortion-fight/abortion-europe-dr-rebecca-gomperts-takes-entrepreneurial-approach-n559881

    So, you, the Judaizer, have relied upon multiple Jєωιѕн sources who state that the increase in post-Dobbs abortions is due to —wait for it— location of abortions changedexactly as I said and exactly as you denied.


    Like I said, I've read all this before and I know your a snake... I call both yours and their bluff, both of you are short sighted, which is good... drink thy own poison.


    So you've "read all this before" and you knowingly denied exactly what I stated, that abortions rose because "Trump's" Dobbs decision merely shifted the location of abortions to abortion-boosting states (by telemedicine)…

    …and while lying you dropped and revealed your pose of false piety to insult me ("snake" "short-sighted" "stupid") and leave off your deviously insincere "God Bless you" misdirection.

    So:

    Exactly as I said… "Trump's" Dobbs decision (1) increased abortion by shifting the location of abortions to the states and (2) made the states untouchable by federal law into the foreseeable future.

    You celebrated Dobbs. You idolized Trump.

    and

    You read the article and knowingly lied about what your own Jєωιѕн sources revealed.

    You valued Truth less than honesty, less than protecting your idol Trump, and less than preserving your self-vaunted image of rectitude and piety.

    Let's add all this to your indictment.


    You are a lying contumacious Judaizing heretic, defiantly ignorant, a slanderous calumniator, and a pesty troll in a manic phase of bipolar disorder who weaponizes false piety.

    Read Abortion is from the Jєωs: https://tinyurl.com/45ybfwjh and learn more about your spiritual advisers and their "Jєωιѕн understanding" of murdering our babies.

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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #64 on: December 05, 2024, 05:12:49 AM »
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  • Any book without an imprimatur that deals with religious matters, but especially one that criticizes the Church,  can’t (without committing a sin) be read by any faithful Catholic. You people are allowing your deep seated hatred of the Jєωs to be fueled at the expense of your Catholicism.
    Here we go again. What infernal Judaizing troll has re-incarnated itself as "AMDG forever"? Is this the mentally ill Nishant or the Salza/Siscoe entity yet again? A self-proclaimed sedevacantist who demands imprimaturs of all he and we read? So intellectually shizophrenic.

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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #65 on: December 05, 2024, 06:14:20 AM »
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  • Here we go again. What infernal Judaizing troll has re-incarnated itself as "AMDG forever"? Is this the mentally ill Nishant or the Salza/Siscoe entity yet again? 
    Use of colored font is a Nishant thing. 

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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #66 on: December 05, 2024, 06:35:47 AM »
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  • Use of colored font is a Nishant thing.
    I don't recall that being a thing for him on CI, but maybe I didn't pay enough attention.  IMO, the new poster isn't here long enough/hasn't posted enough to consider him a retread.

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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #67 on: December 05, 2024, 06:54:07 AM »
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  • Any book without an imprimatur that deals with religious matters, but especially one that criticizes the Church,  can’t (without committing a sin) be read by any faithful Catholic. You people are allowing your deep seated hatred of the Jєωs to be fueled at the expense of your Catholicism.
    Anything with with an imprimatur written in the last 50  years cannot be read by any faithful Catholic, without it being a real danger to his faith. 

    As to what you call "deep seated hatred", it's just people pointing out the real deep seated hatred jews have for the goyim. 
     


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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #68 on: December 05, 2024, 07:04:21 AM »
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  • I don't recall that being a thing for him on CI, but maybe I didn't pay enough attention. 
    I don't think he did it on CI but it was very noticeable on Suscipe Domine.

      IMO, the new poster isn't here long enough/hasn't posted enough to consider him a retread.
    I wouldn't report him yet, but I think he is worth watching out for.

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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #69 on: December 05, 2024, 07:56:36 AM »
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  • You people are allowing your deep seated hatred of the Jєωs to be fueled at the expense of your Catholicism.

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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #70 on: December 05, 2024, 08:35:29 AM »
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  • What? no God Bless me false piety?.

    No. Precisely because it's not false piety... claiming to be wise you have become a fool.

    You lost this time and thank God, one day you will succeed though and I just hope when you do that it's only yourself who drinks the poison... the only logical conclusion to your folly. 

    I don't know how many times I can say it, you boast of voting for a state anti-abortion bill, but you passionately condemn Trump and passionately insisted Christians not vote for him totally blind to the fact that without the overturning of Roe v Wade you could achieve nothing... you passionately cut the very branch off on which you sit... you failed this time, because many of us are also sitting on this branch and hence why I had to refute a dumbass like yourself... but when it's just you on that branch I certainly won't be saying anything.

    Like I said, you scoff at Australia calling us screwed... but in reality we are not precisely because you failed... if you had succeeded in demoralizing, condemning, sabotaging and thus paving the path for hαɾɾιs to win, then we would be screwed... yourself even more so... one day this will probably happen to you and hopefully in a way that leaves myself and many others out of it.

    Same thing happened at the beginning of the French Revolution and Napoleonic Wars... the Vendee, the Spanish, the Prussians, the Austrians, the Russians at Austerlitz etc... all from aristocrats who were too full of pride.

    Of course, with Trump and others I take a risk... and you'll be right there eager to relish in any fall... but you will never create anything and you're already finished you just don't know it yet.


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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #71 on: December 05, 2024, 08:59:54 AM »
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  • So, you, the Judaizer, have relied upon multiple Jєωιѕн sources who state that the increase in post-Dobbs abortions is due to —wait for it— location of abortions changedexactly as I said and exactly as you denied.

    You seem to have a habit of purposefully missing points.

    I bolded the part which I was speaking about, this was said to me back in 2016 when people pushed for the overturning of Roe v Wade with Trump (first calling it impossible and a ruse, that he could never do it and would never do it... but he did)... the only people who use such fallacious arguments do so for demoralization purposes... yes they will find another way and yes they may even go up... it's still ground the pro-life cause has won, it's still success one can build on, it's still momentum in the pro-life causes favor, and most importantly... it's still the necessary first step without which one cannot achieve anything... those like yourself can't get out of your own hubris to see that, which means you're either incredibly prideful and foolish or you are an infiltrator and saboteur... the very thing you falsely accuse myself of.

    The abortion pill by big pharma has a long list of serious side effects and is very painful... if they do it with you they'll do it to you... hardly the victory they claim... many of these women will see just how much these people 'care' about them and how badly they have been deceived IMO. There are also other ways to go about it now, as the field is open to move given the overturning of Roe v Wade... the arrogant will suffer defeats unless they retain their humility... exactly the case with Trumps 6 weeks controversy or whatever... one cannot win with an iron fist, the hearts and minds and legal system must move together, at the same pace. 

    Roe v Wade is secured, the next most immediate is a federal ban or something like that on extreme late term and partial birth that the vast majority would agree to... then hearts and minds again such as those like Live Action and telling the truth about what is happening.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #72 on: December 05, 2024, 09:11:45 AM »
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  • No. Precisely because it's not false piety... [Josh's usual word salad evasions]
    Your word salad addresses none of the evidence against you.

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    Why abortions rose after Roe was overturned -
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/abortions-rose-roe-overturned-why-rcna181094


    Like I said, I've read all this before and I know your a snake... I call both yours and their bluff, both of you are short sighted, which is good... drink thy own poison.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."


    What? no God Bless me false piety?.

    Here's what I said:

    Quote from: Mark 79 on Yesterday at 12:58:03 AM
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    As if your denial of realities, (1) what Fr. MacFarland correctly taught in his sermon and (2) my doing my Catholic duty, makes me "stupid and short-sighted" and now also "missing the forest for the trees."

    No. A few of us have accused Trump of being 94% pro-abortion. Tragically Arizona passed the abortion right amendment, so "another domino fell." The USA is moving towards the 94% abortion that your idol Trump wants… As some have noted, a few states prohibit abortion. So, the location of abortions changed and you celebrate that. Meanwhile, as Fr. MacFarland explicitly stated in his sermons, both the total number of surgical and chemical abortions [by telemedicine prescription] have INCREASED since the Dobbs decision.… and you feign that you see "the forest."

    You are plum nuts. Take your lithium and stop spreading poison in the flock.


    You stated :

    Quote from: josh987654321 on Today at 01:04:01 AM
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    Why abortions rose after Roe was overturned -
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/abortions-rose-roe-overturned-why-rcna181094


    Like I said, I've read all this before and I know your a snake... I call both yours and their bluff, both of you are short sighted, which is good... drink thy own poison.

    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."



    You, the Judaizer, offered Jєωιѕн-run NBC news as your source. Your Jєωιѕн source offered the Gutmacher Institute, NBC's "got to" pro-abortion Jєωιѕн lobby who stated this:

    Quote
    Quote
    Abortions went up last year and the country’s fertility rate hit a historic low.

    More than 1 million abortions were recorded in the United States in 2023 — the highest in a decade, according to the Guttmacher Institute, a research group that supports abortion access. …Much of the story, it turns out, comes down to a small network of medical providers who found ways to prescribe and ship abortion pills around the country from places where they’re still legal.

    That was only possible because of significant action taken by the Food and Drug Administration during the pandemic, which allowed the pills to be dispensed via telemedicine. Then, in the wake of the ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, eight states passed laws that protected providers from being sued for prescribing abortion pills virtually to people from other states.

    “The obstacles are actually lower than before Dobbs,” said Dr. Rebecca Gomperts, the Dutch physician who founded Aid Access, an organization that mails abortion medications to individuals who request them. “For people that didn’t have the financial resources or the infrastructure, the logistical structures in place to go to a clinic … I think the landscape now is much better.”


    So, your Jєωιѕн source quotes another Jєωιѕн source and the internationally infamous Jєωιѕн abortionist Gompoerts.

    Who is Gomperts? She is the doctor who bought a ship, outfitted it for abortion, and anchored just outside the legal jurisdiction of anti-abortion nations. She then shuttled pregnant women onto her ship to have their babies killed. She especially targeted Irish and Polish Catholic babies for murder.

    In 2021 [more recent archive versions have already been scrubbed from the (((Wayback Machine)))] here is what my Abortion is from the Jєωs page said about Gomperts: https://tinyurl.com/45ybfwjh

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    April 29, 2016, Another Jєωιѕн monster specializes in murdering goyische children, especially Catholic children, using off-shore abortion ships and internet-ordered pills.  [Emphasis added]
    Abortion in Europe: Dr. Rebecca Gomperts Takes Entrepreneurial Approach by Cassandra Vinograd
    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/europes-abortion-fight/abortion-europe-dr-rebecca-gomperts-takes-entrepreneurial-approach-n559881


    So, you, the Judaizer, have relied upon multiple Jєωιѕн sources who state that the increase in post-Dobbs abortions is due to —wait for it— location of abortions changed… exactly as I said and exactly as you denied.

    Quote from: josh987654321 on Today at 01:04:01 AM
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    Like I said, I've read all this before and I know your a snake... I call both yours and their bluff, both of you are short sighted, which is good... drink thy own poison.


    So you've "read all this before" and you knowingly denied exactly what I stated, that abortions rose because "Trump's" Dobbs decision merely shifted the location of abortions to abortion-boosting states (by telemedicine)…

    …and while lying you dropped and revealed your pose of false piety to insult me ("snake" "short-sighted" "stupid") and leave off your deviously insincere "God Bless you" misdirection.

    So:

    Exactly as I said… "Trump's" Dobbs decision (1) increased abortion by shifting the location of abortions to the states and (2) made the states untouchable by federal law into the foreseeable future.

    You celebrated Dobbs. You idolized Trump.

    and

    You read the article and knowingly lied about what your own Jєωιѕн sources revealed.

    You valued Truth less than honesty, less than protecting your idol Trump, and less than preserving your self-vaunted image of rectitude and piety.

    Let's add all this to your indictment.


    You are a lying contumacious Judaizing heretic, defiantly ignorant, a slanderous calumniator, and a pesty troll in a manic phase of bipolar disorder who weaponizes false piety.

    Read Abortion is from the Jєωs: https://tinyurl.com/45ybfwjh and learn more about your spiritual advisers and their "Jєωιѕн understanding" of murdering our babies.

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    Re: Misconception about the six pointed star.
    « Reply #73 on: December 05, 2024, 09:24:23 AM »
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  • If you are correct with the dating, which I believe is probably accurate, how do you rationalize the fact that the Church allowed the six pointed star to be used to decorate Her churches for centuries?
    I don't, because I'm not going to defend Jews, Judaisers or the just plain ignorant. One example would be this Jew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Matas who designed the facade on the Basilica di Santa Croce: 

    Not only was a Jew allowed to design part of a Catholic basilica, he was allowed to insert a very prominent six pointed star right on the front of it, and then he was buried under the basilica. All of this was allowed by Catholics. This is just one example I found in a cursory search, I am sure more can be found.
    If you had been of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you [John 15:108

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    « Reply #74 on: December 05, 2024, 09:40:55 AM »
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  • I don't, because I'm not going to defend Jєωs, Judaisers or the just plain ignorant. One example would be this Jєω: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niccol%C3%B2_Matas who designed the facade on the Basilica di Santa Croce:

    Not only was a Jєω allowed to design part of a Catholic basilica, he was allowed to insert a very prominent six pointed star right on the front of it, and then he was buried under the basilica. All of this was allowed by Catholics. This is just one example I found in a cursory search, I am sure more can be found.

    Thanks for posting that salient example.

    "Hear, O foolish people, and without understanding: who have eyes, and see not: and ears, and hear not." Jeremias 5:21