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Online Mark 79

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Re: Australia is F****d
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2024, 07:37:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDG forever on December 04, 2024, 01:45:16 PM
    That’s presupposing that people were more ignorant than they are today. I simply don’t believe that.
    Ignorant in the sense of "not knowing."

    Do you seriously think a peasant laboring in the fields had the time, inclination, means of communication, and literacy to know about and analyze the intrigues of the Medieval and Renaissance Papacy and Curia?

    Communication and educational opportunities are widely available today. Does that mean there is less ignorance today?
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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #46 on: December 04, 2024, 07:51:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDG forever on December 04, 2024, 02:08:42 PM
    Reference? He apparently allowed it to be published, but I’ve never seen a reliable reference that suggested he funded it.
    As if allowing the Bomberg тαℓмυd edition's publication isn't treacherous and subversive enough???

    As if "Freedom of Speech" is a Catholic principle???

    How do you assess reliability?

    Hoffman discusses the Bomberg тαℓмυd and related subversions in great detail in his book:
    The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990954722/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0990954722&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />
    I read Hoffman's book. I cross-referenced and corroborated a few of his salient claims and I am convinced in large degree by Hoffman's thesis, namely that The Church hierarchy was infected with тαℓмυdic/kabbalistic influence. That influence festered, trickled down to the Faithful with stereotypical incrementalism, weakened The Church, and exploded at Vatican 2.

    A side note:

    Let me say this in advance, nearly every time anyone mentions Hoffman, the cranks come put of the woodwork with their calumnies against him. I know Michael and consider him a friend. In the past I have spent days of effort defending him from calumnies. If it happens again, I will not address the calumnies. Instead I will let the calumniators go uncorrected to their personal judgments so that they may discover the truth and suffer their justice and all attendant excruciations. 'nuff said.
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    Re: Australia getting worse
    « Reply #47 on: December 04, 2024, 08:17:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDG forever on December 04, 2024, 06:23:24 PM
    I agree 1000%! Using language like that just shows me how really inept and ignorant someone is. I tried to change the title, to no avail. :mad:
    Quote from: Plenus Venter on December 04, 2024, 06:01:49 PM

    The very title of this thread is scandalous. It is the spirit of the world, if not worse, brought into the Catholic domain. Removing a few letters does not make an evil word good. Would OLJC speak in such a fashion? Would we speak in this manner before Our Lord and Our Lady? We all ought to be here to edify the Catholic (and non-Catholic) world. I pray that the moderator will rectify this matter.
    Sorry I am Australian sometimes.
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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #48 on: December 04, 2024, 08:33:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on December 04, 2024, 07:51:58 PM
    As if allowing the Bomberg тαℓмυd edition's publication isn't treacherous and subversive enough???

    As if "Freedom of Speech" is a Catholic principle???

    How do you assess reliability?

    Hoffman discusses the Bomberg тαℓмυd and related subversions in great detail in his book:
    The Occult Renaissance Church of Rome
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990954722/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0990954722&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />
    I read Hoffman's book. I cross-referenced and corroborated a few of his salient claims and I am convinced in large degree by Hoffman's thesis, namely that The Church hierarchy was infected with тαℓмυdic/kabbalistic influence. That influence festered, trickled down to the Faithful with stereotypical incrementalism, weakened The Church, and exploded at Vatican 2.

    A side note:

    Let me say this in advance, nearly every time anyone mentions Hoffman, the cranks come put of the woodwork with their calumnies against him. I know Michael and consider him a friend. In the past I have spent days of effort defending him from calumnies. If it happens again, I will not address the calumnies. Instead I will let the calumniators go uncorrected to their personal judgments so that they may discover the truth and suffer their justice and all attendant excruciations. 'nuff said.

    A pre Vatican II Catholic source who was/is not considered modernist leaning by the vast majority of traditional (true) Catholics. Hoffman doesn’t make the cut.
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    Re: Australia getting worse
    « Reply #49 on: December 04, 2024, 09:14:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on December 04, 2024, 08:17:12 PM
    Sorry I am Australian sometimes.
    That's the way Anthony. I'm from God's own country too, so we have to lead by example!
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    Re: Australia is a mess.
    « Reply #50 on: December 04, 2024, 09:17:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: AMDG forever on December 04, 2024, 08:33:42 PM
    A pre Vatican II Catholic source who was/is not considered modernist leaning by the vast majority of traditional (true) Catholics. Hoffman doesn’t make the cut.
    Interesting that you didn't answer my questions, but had the time and inclination to make a snide remark about Michael.

    You expressed no skepticism that Pope Leo X's approval was required for publication.

    I'll ask again slightly re-phrased—Isn't Pope Leo X's approval of the Bomberg тαℓмυd publication subversive?

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    Re: Australia getting worse
    « Reply #51 on: December 04, 2024, 09:24:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on December 04, 2024, 09:14:40 PM
    That's the way Anthony. I'm from God's own country too, so we have to lead by example!

    Australia? "God's own country"??? OK… make your case. 

    Notwithstanding te sanctimonious policing of verbiage, Australia is indeed… um [searching for a word acceptable to the language police]… far from exemplary.

    G'day!
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    Re: Australia getting worse
    « Reply #52 on: December 04, 2024, 11:06:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on December 04, 2024, 08:17:12 PM
    Sorry I am Australian sometimes.
    Nothing to apologize for, you're just Australian. They use profanity as a way to inhale.
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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #53 on: December 04, 2024, 11:30:06 PM »
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    • Quote from: Plenus Venter on December 04, 2024, 06:01:49 PM
    The very title of this thread is scandalous.

    For clarification, I agree and I have never used this word, I only use just the letter 'F', as it allows the emphasizing of the message but without the vulgarity of the full word. Not ideal, but I don't say or type the full thing which I agree is too vulgar.

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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #54 on: December 04, 2024, 11:40:43 PM »
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    No contradiction.

    Your spiritual advisers, liars like you, claim that Pope Pius XII (Eugenio Pacelli) was "Hitler's Pope." The invidious nickname was first coined by the damned Jєω Daniel Goldhagen as the title of his slanderous book about Pope Pius XII.

    You are the first moron I have seen claim that Pope Pius XI was "Hitler's Pope."

    Before you start braying more stupidities, you might consider learning what you are talking about. Your mother should have taught you: "Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

    Pope Pius XI endorsed the National Socialists as LeDeg stated. After the National Socialists began to persecute some in the Church, Cdl. Pacelli ("Hitler's Pope) penned Mit Brennendfer Sorge on behalf of Pope Pius XI who signed it.

    That's not a contradiction; Pope Pius XI and Cdl. Pacelli dealt with a changing situation. Deal with it.


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    Okay, so was Pope Pius XI Hitler's Pope or not? Was Pope Pius XII Hitler's Pope or not? You imply these things and then when called out you hide behind your ambiguity.


    I implied nothing. I explicitly stated that Goldhagen and your Jєωs gave Pacelli/Pope Pius XII the invidious nickname.  The "implication" and "ambiguity" are in your mentally ill imagination… as usual for you.


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    So what do you make of Mit Brennender Sorge then?



    So you can twist my explicit statements into their opposites again??? No way, jerk.


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    You accuse myself of that which you are guilty of. Nobody was more vocal in their crusade against Trump than you were and you were very content to see hαɾɾιs win, you were not indifferent... you didn't 'not care' who won, you were adamantly insisting that Christians not vote for Trump and were the most vocal in their crusade against Trump on these forums.



    You are mentally defective and/or a liar.

    I have consistently stated:
    1. Trump and hαɾɾιs are both evil, with subtle differences that make neither a "lesser unworthy" candidate.
    2. Catholics may not do (or vote for) evil.
    3. Rampant fraud and your "two Jєω party System" mean elections are just kayfabe, a show to pacify the goyim.
    4. You are a two-fold heretic who spreads poison in the flock.


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    You laugh and mock, which is a testament to your arrogance



    You are a contumacious heretic, defiantly ignorant, a slanderous calumniator, and a pesty troll in a manic phase of bipolar disorder. If you thought I would play kissy-face/grab-ass with you, you were seriously mistaken.


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    as there are many posts of yours I will be able to find on this matter... just be patient.





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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #55 on: December 04, 2024, 11:55:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on December 04, 2024, 11:40:43 PM
    If you thought I would play kissy-face/grab-ass with you, you were seriously mistaken.

    What kind of language is this? You are a baiter anyway.

    Really there is no point arguing with you. You scoff at Australia and our situation (which is not as dire thanks to those like Trump, Elon Musk and many others), yet if you had your way in the US elections and Trump had lost, you would be WAY worse off than even Australia, like I said, part of me wishes you could've tasted your own medicine there, but I would also be in a much worse position if that had happened and as much as I despise your folly, I'm not suicidal. You lost and thank God.

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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #56 on: December 05, 2024, 12:07:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on December 04, 2024, 11:55:48 PM
    What kind of language is this? You are a baiter anyway.


    "Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."
    You are a devious deviant indeed. You made false accusations, I provided evidence against your bogus word salad accusation, so, like a little girl, you complained about my language. I didn't expect that you could or would defend your false accusations or stupidities or abjure your heresies. You made a fool of yourself with your upside-down claims about "Hitler's Pope." I simply post them (and will re-post them) to remind innocent readers of your heresies, lies, defiant ignorance, and mental illness.


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    No contradiction.

    Your spiritual advisers, liars like you, claim that Pope Pius XII (Eugenio Pacelli) was "Hitler's Pope." The invidious nickname was first coined by the damned Jєω Daniel Goldhagen as the title of his slanderous book about Pope Pius XII.

    You are the first moron I have seen claim that Pope Pius XI was "Hitler's Pope."

    Before you start braying more stupidities, you might consider learning what you are talking about. Your mother should have taught you: "Better to keep quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

    Pope Pius XI endorsed the National Socialists as LeDeg stated. After the National Socialists began to persecute some in the Church, Cdl. Pacelli ("Hitler's Pope) penned Mit Brennendfer Sorge on behalf of Pope Pius XI who signed it.

    That's not a contradiction; Pope Pius XI and Cdl. Pacelli dealt with a changing situation. Deal with it.


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    Okay, so was Pope Pius XI Hitler's Pope or not? Was Pope Pius XII Hitler's Pope or not? You imply these things and then when called out you hide behind your ambiguity.


    I implied nothing. I explicitly stated that Goldhagen and your Jєωs gave Pacelli/Pope Pius XII the invidious nickname.  The "implication" and "ambiguity" are in your mentally ill imagination… as usual for you.


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    So what do you make of Mit Brennender Sorge then?



    So you can twist my explicit statements into their opposites again??? No way, jerk.


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    You accuse myself of that which you are guilty of. Nobody was more vocal in their crusade against Trump than you were and you were very content to see hαɾɾιs win, you were not indifferent... you didn't 'not care' who won, you were adamantly insisting that Christians not vote for Trump and were the most vocal in their crusade against Trump on these forums.



    You are mentally defective and/or a liar.

    I have consistently stated:
    1. Trump and hαɾɾιs are both evil, with subtle differences that make neither a "lesser unworthy" candidate.
    2. Catholics may not do (or vote for) evil.
    3. Rampant fraud and your "two Jєω party System" mean elections are just kayfabe, a show to pacify the goyim.
    4. You are a two-fold heretic who spreads poison in the flock.


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    You laugh and mock, which is a testament to your arrogance



    You are a contumacious heretic, defiantly ignorant, a slanderous calumniator, and a pesty troll in a manic phase of bipolar disorder. If you thought I would play kissy-face/grab-ass with you, you were seriously mistaken.


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    as there are many posts of yours I will be able to find on this matter... just be patient.



    I would be shocked if you actually adduce verbatim quotes consistent with your slanders.
    Your pattern of psycho behavior predicts that you will just "rev up" your straw man hysterical paraphrasing and delusions born of your mental illness.

    Now will you abjure your heresies? … retract your slanders? …acknowledge your stupid historical errors? …take your lithium?
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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #57 on: December 05, 2024, 12:13:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: josh987654321 on Yesterday at 12:16:41 AM
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    This is a good one -
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/reminder-catholic-principles-on-the-obligation-of-voting/msg960025/#msg960025

    This is the perfect testament to your own stupidity and short sightedness.

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    I see why you didn't quote me verbatim, but, as I predicted just raved your own delusions.

    Here, in its entirety, is my verbatim quote linked by you:


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    We Arizonans have a duty to vote against that ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferian abortion amendment… as we were specifically advised in all yesterday's sermons. Our pastor who delivered those sermons was quite clear and perfectly correct that the abortion amendment was the only matter on our ballot to which we are dutibound.

    I have voted against that ballot measure.



    Take each sentence and let readers decide how "stupid and short-sighted" each sentence is.

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    We Arizonans have a duty to vote against that ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferian abortion amendment…


    FACT: Our Arizona ballot had a proposition that made abortion a constitutional right.

    FACT: Abortion is disproportionately Jєωιѕн in origin and in the lawfare that made abortion so prevalent.

    FACT: Abortion is satanic.

    HENCE: An amendment that enshrines abortion as a state constitutional right is both Jєωιѕн and satanic, so is ʝʊdɛօ-Luciferian.


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    …as we were specifically advised in all yesterday's sermons. Our pastor who delivered those sermons was quite clear and perfectly correct that the abortion amendment was the only matter on our ballot to which we are dutibound.



    FACT: Our Prior at Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix AZ USA, Fr. MacFarland, delivered the sermons at the Masses on Sunday, Nov 2, 2024.

    FACT: In those sermons, Fr MacFarland explicitly stated that the only issue on the ballot on which Catholics were obliged to vote AND Vote "No," was the proposed state abortion right amendment.

    HENCE: Reality is neither "stupid" nor "shortsighted. It is what it is.

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    I have voted against that ballot measure.



    FACT: I have voted against that ballot measure.

    HENCE:  You deem it "stupid and short-sighted" to have done my duty to vote against a state constitutional amendment enshrining a "right" to abortion.

    So, on the one hand you boast about a SCOTUS decision ("Trump") that actually allows states to legalize abortion —AND— on the other hand you deem my post about fulfilling my Catholic duty to oppose abortion to be "stupid and short-sighted."

    The rest of your drivel is your own misinterpretation of reality, facts that you deny, so your opinions derivative of delusional denial of reality, are equally delusional.

    You are plum nuts. Take your lithium.
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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #58 on: December 05, 2024, 12:15:16 AM »
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    That whole reply is like the very definition of the saying "Miss the forest for the trees".


    As if your denial of realities, (1) what Fr. MacFarland correctly taught in his sermon and (2) my doing my Catholic duty, makes me "stupid and short-sighted" and now also "missing the forest for the trees."

    No. A few of us have accused Trump of being 94% pro-abortion. Tragically Arizona passed the abortion right amendment, so "another domino fell." The USA is moving towards the 94% abortion that your idol Trump wants… As some have noted, a few states prohibit abortion. So, the location of abortions changed and you celebrate that. Meanwhile, as Fr. MacFarland explicitly stated in his sermons, both the total number of surgical and chemical abortions have INCREASED since the Dobbs decision.… and you feign that you see "the forest."

    You are plum nuts. Take your lithium and stop spreading poison in the flock.
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    Re: Australia is F****d
    « Reply #59 on: December 05, 2024, 01:04:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on December 05, 2024, 12:15:16 AM
    Fr. MacFarland explicitly stated in his sermons, both the total number of surgical and chemical abortions have INCREASED since the Dobbs decision.… and you feign that you see "the forest."

    You are plum nuts. Take your lithium and stop spreading poison in the flock.

    Why abortions rose after Roe was overturned -
    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/womens-health/abortions-rose-roe-overturned-why-rcna181094

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    Like I said, I've read all this before and I know your a snake... I call both yours and their bluff, both of you are short sighted, which is good... drink thy own poison. 

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