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Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
« Reply #150 on: April 21, 2022, 09:58:15 PM »
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    Important reviews
    University of California Center for Medical Cannabis Research—2010 Report to the Legislature
    http://www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/images/pdfs/CMCR_REPORT_FEB17.pdf
    Review on clinical studies with cannabis and cannabinoids 2005-2009. Hazecamp A and Grotenhermen F. Cannabinoids 2010;5(special issue):1-21.
    www.cannabis-med.org/data/pdf/en_2010_01_special.pdf
    Cannabinoids in medicine: A review of their therapeutic potential. Amar MB. Journal of Ethnopharmacology 105 (2006) 1–25.
    http://www.ucla.edu.ve/dmedicin/departamentos/fisiologia/cannabinoidsRevPatologias.pdf
    Emerging Clinical Applications for Cannabis and Cannabinoids: A Review of the Recent Scientific Literature, 2000 – 2010. Armentano P. NORML Foundation, Washington DC 2010.
    http://norml.org/pdf_files/NORML_Clinical_Applications_for_Cannabis_and_Cannabinoids.pdf
    Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy of Science Institute of Medicine, 1999
    http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=6376
    popularized in: Marijuana As Medicine? – The Science Behind the Controversy. Mack A and Joy J. National Academy of Science. National Academy Press, Washington DC 2000.
    http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9586&page=R1
    AIDS/HIV
    University of California Center for Medical Cannabis Research—2010 Report to the Legislature
    http://www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/images/pdfs/CMCR_REPORT_FEB17.pdf
    Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV)
    http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7485
    “Marijuana and AIDS” in Marijuana As Medicine? – The Science Behind the Controversy. Mack A and Joy J. National Academy of Science. National Academy Press, Washington DC 2000.
    http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9586&page=86
    ALS (Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis, Lou Gehrig's Disease)
    Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (ALS)
    http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7004
    Alzheimer's Disease
    Alzheimer's Disease
    http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7003
    Cachexia. Wasting syndrome
    See sections 3.1 and 3.2 of Cannabinoids in medicine: A review of their therapeutic potential. Amar MB. Journal of Ethnopharmacology 105 (2006) 1–25.
    http://www.ucla.edu.ve/dmedicin/departamentos/fisiologia/cannabinoidsRevPatologias.pdf
    Cancer
    Gliomas/Cancer
    http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7008
    “Marijuana and Cancer” in Marijuana As Medicine? – The Science Behind the Controversy. Mack A and Joy J. National Academy of Science. National Academy Press, Washington DC 2000.
    http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9586&page=95
    Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®). National Cancer Institute. 2011.
    http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/pdq/cam/cannabis/healthprofessional/page1
    Cardiovascular disease
    The Potential for Clinical Use of Cannabinoids in Treatment
    of Cardiovascular Diseases. Durst R and Lotan C. Cardiovascular Therapeutics 2011 Feb;29(1):17-22. doi: 10.1111/j.1755-5922.2010.00233.x. Epub 2010 Oct 14.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20946323
    The emerging role of the endocannabinoid system in cardiovascular disease. Pacher P, Steffens S. Semin Immunopathol. 2009 Jun;31(1):63-77. Epub 2009 Apr 9.
    http://www.springerlink.com/content/a04103g160h16450/fulltext.pdf
    Cannabinoid receptors in atherosclerosis. Steffens S, Mach F. Curr Opin Lipidol. 2006 Oct;17(5):519-26.
    http://journals.lww.com/co-lipidology/Abstract/2006/10000/Cannabinoid_receptors_in_atherosclerosis.5.aspx
    Cannabinoid receptors in acute and chronic complications of atherosclerosis. Mach F, Montecucco F, Steffens S. Br J Pharmacol. 2008 January; 153(2): 290–298.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2219535/pdf/0707517a.pdf
    Endocannabinoids and cannabinoid receptors in ischaemia-reperfusion injury and preconditioning. Pacher P, Haskó G. Br J Pharmacol. 2008 Jan;153(2):252-62. Epub 2007 Nov 19.
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1038/sj.bjp.0707582/pdf
    The role of the endocannabinoid system in atherosclerosis. Mach F, Steffens S. J Neuroendocrinol. 2008 May;20 Suppl 1:53-7.
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2826.2008.01685.x/pdf
    Cardiovascular Effects of Cannabis | Medicinal Cannabis Information. Independent Drug Monitoring Unit, United Kingdom, undated
    http://www.idmu.co.uk/canncardio.htm
    Crohns Disease
    Gastrointestinal Disorders
    http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7009
    Endocannabinoid sysytem
    The Endocannabinoid System as an Emerging Target of Pharmacotherapy. National Institute of Health: Pacher P, Bátkai S, Kunos G. Pharmacol Rev. 2006 Sep;58(3):389-462.
    http://pharmrev.aspetjournals.org/content/58/3/389.full.pdf
    Endocrine disease, diabetes
    The emerging role of the endocannabinoid system in endocrine regulation and energy balance. Pagotto U, Marsicano G, Cota D, Lutz B, Pasquali R. Endocr Rev. 2006 Feb;27(1):73-100. Epub 2005 Nov 23.
    http://fk.uwks.ac.id/elib/Arsip/Departemen/Biokimia/The%20Emerging%20Role%20of%20the%20Endocannabinoid%20System.pdf
    Fibromyalgia
    Nabilone for the Treatment of Pain in Fibromyalgia. Skrabek RQ, Galimova L, Ethans K, Perry D. J Pain. 2008 Feb;9(2):164-73. Epub 2007 Nov 5.
    http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:9gDyCVhqJSMJ:files.meetup.com/404848/2008_Nabilone-for-the-Treatment-of-Pain-in-Fibromyalgia.pdf+Nabilone+for+the+Treatment+of+Pain+in+Fibromyalgia&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjFGavzxEJkBjsOj_YyWPHuo5PRG034PLna8X6n3sXGT696PVuaEH15HF07xVpfV10wLPfon8-nZoD0RcJfU6LInnuqHOGpKDECN4oQ6OWBgGgwXWckH2QB31FTn1BZn0KX9U7A&sig=AHIEtbQlDN8uMzxJIm6KKL0POTJdhmbsvg
    Delta-9-THC based monotherapy in fibromyalgia patients on experimentally induced pain, axon reflex flare, and pain relief. Schley M, Legler A, Skopp G, Schmelz M, Konrad C, Rukwied R. Curr Med Res Opin. 2006 Jul;22(7):1269-76.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16834825
    Fibromyalgia
    http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7007
    Glaucoma
    American Glaucoma Society position statement: Marijuana and the treatment of glaucoma. American Glaucoma Society, Prepared by Henry Jampel, M.D., M.H.S., August 10, 2009
    http://www.americanglaucomasociety.net/associations/5224/files/Marijuana%20and%20Glaucoma%20august%2030_BOD%20Approved%2010.23.09.pdf
    Marijuana and Glaucoma” in Marijuana As Medicine? – The Science Behind the Controversy. Mack A and Joy J. National Academy of Science. National Academy Press, Washington DC 2000.
    http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9586&page=124
    Hepatitis C
    Hepatitis C
    http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7010
    Marijuana effects, drug levels, DUI
    Marijuana effect and delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol plasma level. Chiang CWN and Barnett G. Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics 1984 Aug;36(2):234-8.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6086207
    Contact highs and urinary cannabinoids excretion after passive exposure to marijuana smoke. Cone EJ and Johnson RE. Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics 1986 Sep;40(3):247-56.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3017628
    Do delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol concentrations indicate recent use in chronic cannabis users? Karschner EL, Schwilke EW, Lowe RH, Darwin WD, Pope HG, Herning R, Cadet JL, Huestis MA. Addiction. 2009 Dec;104(12):2041-8. Epub 2009 Oct 5.
    http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/reprint/49/7/1114
    Developing limits for driving under cannabis. Grotenhermen F, Leson G, Berghaus G, Drummer OH, Krüger HP, Longo M, Moskowitz H, Perrine B, Ramaekers JG, Smiley A, Tunbridge R. Addiction 2007 Dec;102(12):1910-7. Epub 2007 Oct 4.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17916224
    Urinary cannabinoid detection times after controlled oral administration of delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol to humans. Gustafson RA, Levine B, Stout PR, Klette KL, George MP, Moolchan ET, Huestis MA. Clin Chem. 2003 Jul;49(7):1114-24.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816908
    Editorial: Practical Challenges to Positive Drug Tests for Marijuana. ElSohly MA. Clin Chem. 2003 Jul;49(7):1037-8.
    http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/reprint/49/7/1037
    Dose related risk of motor vehicle crashes after cannabis use. Ramaekers JG, Berghaus G, van Laar M, Drummer OH. Drug Alcohol Depend. 2004 Feb 7;73(2):109-19.
    http://www.ukcia.org/research/DoseRelatedRiskOfCrashes.pdf
    Tolerance and cross-tolerance to neurocognitive effects of THC and alcohol in heavy cannabis users. Ramaekers JG, Theunissen EL, de Brouwer M, Toennes SW, Moeller MR, Kauert G. Psychopharmacology (Berl). 2011 Mar;214(2):391-401. Epub 2010 Oct 30.
    http://www.cannabistherapyinstitute.com/bills/dui/raemakers.etal.pdf
    Cannabis and Driving: A Scientific and Rational Review. Armentano P. NORML Foundation, Washington DC 2010
    http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7459
    Sex differences in the effects of marijuana on simulated driving performance. Anderson BM, Rizzo M, Block RI, Pearlson GD, O'Leary DS. J Psychoactive Drugs. 2010 Mar;42(1):19-30.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3033009/
    Effects of THC on driving performance, physiological state and subjective feelings relative to alcohol. Ronen A, Gershon P, Drobiner H, Rabinovich A, Bar-Hamburger R, Mechoulam R, Cassuto Y, Shinar D. Accid Anal Prev. 2008 May;40(3):926-34. Epub 2007 Nov 26.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18460360
    Muscle Spasms
    Dystonia
    http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7006
    “Marijuana and Muscle Spasticity” in Marijuana As Medicine? – The Science Behind the Controversy. Mack A and Joy J. National Academy of Science. National Academy Press, Washington DC 2000.
    http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9586&page=106
    Nausea
    See sections 3.1 of Cannabinoids in medicine: A review of their therapeutic potential. Amar MB. Journal of Ethnopharmacology 105 (2006) 1–25.
    http://www.ucla.edu.ve/dmedicin/departamentos/fisiologia/cannabinoidsRevPatologias.pdf
    Pain
    University of California Center for Medical Cannabis Research—2010 Report to the Legislature
    http://www.cmcr.ucsd.edu/images/pdfs/CMCR_REPORT_FEB17.pdf
    Chronic Pain
    http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7786
    “Marijuana and Pain” in Marijuana As Medicine? – The Science Behind the Controversy. Mack A and Joy J. National Academy of Science. National Academy Press, Washington DC 2000.
    http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9586&page=77#
    Post traumatic Stress Disorder
    Cannabinoid receptor activation in the basolateral amygdala blocks the effects of stress on the conditioning and extinction of inhibitory avoidance. Ganon-Elazar E, Akirav I. J Neurosci. 2009 Sep 9;29(36):11078-88.
    http://www.jneurosci.org/content/29/36/11078.full.pdf+html
    [Extinction of emotional response as a novel approach of pharmacotherapy of anxiety disorders]. Lehner M, Wisłowska-Stanek A, Płaznik A. Psychiatr Pol. 2009 Nov-Dec;43(6):639-53.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20209877
    The Use of a Synthetic Cannabinoid in the Management of Treatment‐Resistant Nightmares in Posttraumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). Fraser GA. CNS Neurosci Ther. 2009 Winter;15(1):84-8.
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1755-5949.2008.00071.x/pdf
    Public policy
    Harm reduction-the cannabis paradox. Melamede R. Harm Reduct J. 2005 Sep 22;2:17.
    http://www.harmreductionjournal.com/content/pdf/1477-7517-2-17.pdf
    Seizures
    See sections 3.7 of Cannabinoids in medicine: A review of their therapeutic potential. Amar MB. Journal of Ethnopharmacology 105 (2006) 1–25.
    http://www.ucla.edu.ve/dmedicin/departamentos/fisiologia/cannabinoidsRevPatologias.pdf
    “Marijuana and Neurological Disorders” in Marijuana As Medicine? – The Science Behind the Controversy. Mack A and Joy J. National Academy of Science. National Academy Press, Washington DC 2000.
    http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=9586&page=115
    I don't see how he could miss them, you posted them enough times...  he's just set in his beliefs and he refuses to see Truth.


    Offline epiphany

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #151 on: April 21, 2022, 09:59:53 PM »
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  • LT has entered the realm of XavierSem, where any rational discussion is impossible.  He seeks no understanding of the opposite side; he only seeks to proclaim his own thoughts.
    Exactly:


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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #152 on: April 21, 2022, 10:00:30 PM »
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  • Well… I prefer to relax with a rosary, a good religious book, a bubble bath and save $$$, and be healthier in the long run.

    Your opinion is the opinion of a calumniator. Perhaps you are not relaxing enough Rosaries.

    You made a false accusation and have neither apologized for nor retracted your false accusation.

    Quote from: songbird on April 06, 2022, 07:57:00 PM

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    79 replied to songbird, that placenta fetal cells injections were ok, for joints.  I disagree, and gave to Mark79 links with articles saying that different stages of of a baby, such as 3 months in womb were best for harvesting and he still said it was ok!


    "fetal" = baby

    "placental" = afterbirth, not baby

    "placenta fetal" is a really stupid oxymoron equivalent to "not baby/baby."

    I have never ever anywhere to anyone said harvesting parts from 3 month old babies is acceptable.

    I have never ever anywhere to anyone said harvesting placentas from 3 month in utero babies is acceptable. Damaging the placenta at that gestational age would likely damage the baby.

    In no way shape or form do I advocate anything remotely as you said.

    Even if stem cells harvested at 3 months are "better" (more efficacious medically), the risk to the baby is immoral and unacceptable.

    Placental (not baby) stem cells harvested from the afterbirth (not baby) can be harvested without any harm to full-term babies. Doctors used to throw away the afterbirth. Now doctors use the tissues from the afterbirth to good effect—not using only stem cells, but even using amniotic membranes, umbilical cord blood, Wharton's Jelly, stromal tissue, etc.

    Reputable tissue banks use only placentas from carefully screened (medically and socially, no diseases, no crack whores) women having repeat C-sections. Though there was a brief period in the 90's when it was trendy to try to have a vaginal delivery after a first C-section, that fad justifiably passed quickly (concern for uterine rupture during vaginal delivery after a previous C-section). Currently the rule of thumb is "once a C-section, always a C-section." Because the second C-section is scheduled, it is much easier to arrange business hours care of the placental tissue than it is for an emergency C-section in the middle of the night.

    If you are going to make claims about what I have said, I'd really appreciate it if you'd get it right.


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    I see that you logged in about two hours after I PM'd you and made the post immediately above.  I see that you also logged in within the hour of this post, but not a peep from you.

    If I had wrongly accused you, I would have apologized and retracted the accusation within minutes of learning my error.

    Essentially you accused me of advocating harvesting of tissue from babies in the womb. I did not, do not, and never will advocate such heinous sin.

    Your post makes clear that you did not understand the distinction between what is a baby and what is not a baby (the afterbirth). Your post makes clear that you did not understand the distinction between ante-partun (before birth) and post-partum (after the baby is delivered/born) harvesting of placental (afterbirth, not baby) tissue.

    In the future, if you decide you need to accuse me of heinous sin, please be so kind as to confirm the details before you post such damaging accusations.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #153 on: April 21, 2022, 10:06:39 PM »
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  • Currently, of course, it's not ... but that's due to the stigma attached to marijuana vs. alcohol, and that's why a lot of the posters here are getting so worked up and emotional about it.

    One of the main reasons that marijuana was banned was because the earliest vehicle engines ran on hemp oil, and Jєωιѕн Rockefeller big oil had to suppress it so they could sell their oil.  Even now you can, with the right conversion kit, turn almost any diesel engine to bio-diesel (running on various vegetable oils).

    Meanwhile, Big Pharma could put THC in pill form, add another ingredient or two, patent it, charge $400 per dose, and it's suddenly sanitized and acceptable.

    People have been PROGRAMMED.

    Do people know that both Pope Leo XIII and St. Pius X drank cocaine-laced wine?  Cocaine was not yet illegal.  Pope Leo XIII was particularly enthusiastic about it (brand name Vin Mariani), to the point that he awarded a Vatican medal to Angelo Mariani and allowed his likeness to be used in advertisements for it.  He credited it with the energy he had, reigning til the age of 93 and having written 88 encyclicals (of the 300 total ever written by popes).  I wish I could get my hands on some of that stuff, or the original Coca Cola.
    Correct.  It needs to become legal, and controlled as alcohol, for a decade or so and they will change their tune.

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #154 on: April 21, 2022, 10:16:16 PM »
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  • Well, for those who smoke to relax, If MJ suppresses immunity, works on lungs, good luck if you get sick, maybe covid.  You have set yourself up. I am pretty sure MJ does not suppress immunity.  Actually, I think it helps strengthen it.  
    If one feels like they have to ask if it is ok to use MJ to relax, then their conscience is bothering them, hm, why?  Why do you jump the gun and assume that?  The priest and I were discussing a young man who we both know uses MJ and I asked the priest if MJ was si full to use.  But no, it wouldnt occur to you that it could be a casual discussion with a priest.  You jump the gun and assume i had to ask due to a guilty conscience..  go hang your head in shame. My dad relaxed with lucky strikes. About a carton a week.  He died at the age of 54.  cancer from lung to brain, usual course. He might not have died if he had smoked MJ, or used Rick Simpson Oil to CURE his cancer, or at least not suffer an agonizing or dopey death if he had smoked it or had eaten edibles. 

    It may be your decision, medically, do it right or not at all.  I don't want to meet a driver impaired with MJ on the road.  Something that can not be measured, hm, will the driver on MJ be in trouble?  Is smoking MJ the same as a cigarette, and no one gets in trouble?  I wouldn't want to meet a driver impaired with alcohol on the road, either 

    I prefer to relax with a rosary, a good religious book, a bubble bath and save $$$, and be healthier in the long run.  Your female choice.  Others, especially men, prefer a glass of wine,  a bottle of beer, a shot of whiskey, or some MJ  to relax after a hard day's work.  


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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #155 on: April 21, 2022, 10:34:12 PM »
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  • B.S. …
     
    Glad you admit your posts are "B.S."




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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #156 on: April 21, 2022, 11:09:24 PM »
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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #157 on: April 21, 2022, 11:10:11 PM »
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    One of the main reasons that marijuana was banned was because the earliest vehicle engines ran on hemp oil, and Jєωιѕн Rockefeller big oil had to suppress it so they could sell their oil. 
    True.  Also, the hemp plant (non-MJ) is still banned in the southeastern US, even though it has a variety of manufacturing/agricultural uses.  Why?  Because the elites want to destroy US farming and any type of agricultural endeavor.  Hemp can produce oil, rope, animal food, etc.  But it's still banned in most states, even if MJ is legal.  It all boils down to $ and control.


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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #158 on: April 21, 2022, 11:12:28 PM »
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  • True.  Also, the hemp plant (non-MJ) is still banned in the southeastern US, even though it has a variety of manufacturing/agricultural uses.  Why?  Because the elites want to destroy US farming and any type of agricultural endeavor.  Hemp can produce oil, rope, animal food, etc.  But it's still banned in most states, even if MJ is legal.  It all boils down to $ and control.
    At Whole Foods and Sprouts I see several brands of "hemp seed" cereals as anti-oxidants.

    Oooops… it's a "foodstuff."  :jester:

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #159 on: April 21, 2022, 11:23:12 PM »
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    At Whole Foods and Sprouts I see several brands of "hemp seed" cereals as anti-oxidants.
    ANATHEMA!!!  :laugh1:

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    « Reply #160 on: April 21, 2022, 11:32:39 PM »
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  • I have almost concluded that when God inspired 2 Thessalonians 2:10-11, He had CI's truth-haters in mind.


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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #161 on: April 22, 2022, 12:22:43 AM »
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  • It is all a stack of cards, built on assumption on top of assumption, on top of assumption, on top of assumption...... a total end run everywhere one looks.

    I agree.

    It's the same with Tradition. There is no church that is actually traditional. So....Tradition can be re-invented to be anything we want it to be. I'm not sure that I believe anymore that Tradition actually exists, except in the mind. We all invent our own church and tradition, and hope that everyone else will play along. And when they don't play along? We attack them mercilessly.

    The conciliarists invent all sorts of novelties, because they can. Trads do the same thing, because they can. There is no standard for Tradition. Tradition can be whatever we want it to be.

    Maybe Tradition is an illusion which only exists in our minds. Sure, we may have a good prayer life and devotion to Our Lord and Our Lady, but hardly anyone here talks about that. Way too boring. The sacraments at whatever chapel we attend may be real enough, but outside of Mass, who really cares about Our Lord and Our lady?

    Trads are quite worldly. I'm worldly too. It's obvious that Tradition is not the answer to the Crisis in the Church. What is the answer? 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
    « Reply #162 on: April 22, 2022, 01:19:28 AM »
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    Chronic marijuana use negatively impacts male reproductive health, may decrease testicular function

    OHSU study is the first to link daily use of edible THC with reduced testes size, lowered testosterone levels in nonhuman primates

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    Chronic use of marijuana may greatly impact male fertility and reproductive outcomes, says a new report published online in the journal Fertility & Sterility. The study is the first to assess the impacts of substance use on testicular function via a mode of delivery, and dosage, that reflects current human consumption.

    Clinician-scientists at the Oregon National Primate Research Center at Oregon Health & Science University, monitored the reproductive systems of healthy male nonhuman primates following exposure to Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC — the main psychoactive ingredient in marijuana.

    The nonhuman primates, all of reproductive age with a history of proven paternity and no prior exposure to cannabis, received a THC edible once daily over the course of seven months. Their THC dose was based on published medical marijuana acclimation recommendations for humans, and was increased every 70 days in alignment with the animals’ sperm development cycle. Dose adjustments were made until it reached the equivalent of a heavy medical marijuana dose in humans. Semen samples were collected at baseline before initiation of THC, and again at the end of each THC dosing timepoint.

    “Our analysis of the collected samples found that THC use was associated with significant adverse impacts to the animals’ reproductive hormones, including decreased levels of testosterone and severe testicular shrinkage. Specifically, we observed a greater than 50% decrease in testicular size,” said the study’s senior author Jamie Lo, M.D., M.C.R., associate professor of obstetrics and gynecology (perinatology and maternal-fetal medicine), OHSU School of Medicine, and Division of Reproductive & Developmental Sciences, Oregon National Primate Research Center at OHSU. “Unfortunately, these effects appeared to worsen as the THC dose was increased, suggesting a possible dose-dependent effect.”

    These results align with previous studies, conducted by Lo, that indicate similar THC-associated impacts to female reproductive hormones and the menstrual cycle.

    “While more research is necessary to better understand the potential long-term impacts of THC in humans, these early findings are concerning from a clinical standpoint,” said study lead author Jason C. Hedges, M.D., Ph.D., associate professor of urology in the OHSU School of Medicine. “As the prevalence of edible marijuana use continues to increase in the U.S. and worldwide — particularly in males of prime reproductive age — even moderate doses could have a profound impact on fertility outcomes. While family planning may not be top of mind for those in their late teens and early 20s, the longer-term effects of THC on male reproductive health are not well-defined; it is possible that THC could cause lasting impacts that may alter family planning later in life.”

    In collaboration with Carol Hanna, Ph.D., director of the Assisted Reproductive Technology Core at Oregon National Primate Research Center at OHSU, and researchers from University of Georgia and Duke University, Lo and Hedges will continue to expand their understanding of the relationship between THC and reproductive health in both male and female nonhuman primates. The research team will examine longer term THC exposure impacts, including changes to sperm count and motility, and whether adverse effects may be reversed with the discontinuation of THC products.






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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
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    Re: Why Marijuana is Gravely Sinful
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  • There is no church that is actually traditional. I'm not sure that I believe anymore that Tradition actually exists, except in the mind...Maybe Tradition is an illusion which only exists in our minds. Sure, we may have a good prayer life and devotion to Our Lord and Our Lady, but hardly anyone here talks about that?

    The sacraments at whatever chapel we attend may be real enough, but outside of Mass, who really cares about Our Lord and Our lady?

    Trads are quite worldly. I'm worldly too. It's obvious that Tradition is not the answer to the Crisis in the Church.

    Saying this does not bring me satisfaction, but your comments make me think of the almost-universal effects of the monumentally and radically erroneous philosophy of Kant, arch-Modernist that he was.  He believed, in a nutshell, that our minds create reality, not that reality simply IS and the health of our minds, i.e., our sanity, is measured by how well our minds conform to objective reality.

    I am also reminded of materialism in piety, something I have posted about many times.  Many within Traddieland may *think* they have a good prayer life because they are faithful to a few external practices, but the inordinate attachment to the material side of the objectively-valuable deeds, rather than to the invigorating spiritual side, leaves them largely void.  The intended spiritual fruit flows over them, never penetrating the soul, like water flowing over a rock.

    Men are worldly, period, and always have been.  Most, maybe even the majority, throughout Traddieland continuously look at this or that take as if it is, or at least proposes to be a solution, an answer.  There is NO answer, for the solution, whatever God decides it is to eventually be, is entirely in His hands, not ours.  Christ proved He is God precisely because He raised Himself from the dead, by His own divine power.  Holy Church will be shown, to the entire world, to be Divine by a similar, unquestionably-divine miracle.  Very, very few in Traddieland want to accept (or even consider) the fact that Holy Church, like Her Spouse, died.  Her soul was separated from Her body, although not within the order of law (i.e., via a legal pronouncement confirming what is plain to all with eyes to see within the order of fact).  The wound will be healed, but not by human means, power or agency.  We helped caused the problem, but only God can provide the healing solution.  Our only duty is to hold fast to the faith and practices of our fathers as best we can.  Godspeed, Meg.  Do not give into doubt.  You have striven too hard until now to give way to despair.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."