Idiotic.  According to the articles, many people are microdosing, to get the benefits of THC without the high (e.g. to help them be more productive at work ... where you can't actually get high without risk of being fired).  And the micro-dosers typically do not smoke but use tinctures that have properly measured and dosed amounts so they can control exactly how much you get.  Most people who use pot do so to get high, but your "nobody smokes weed not to get high" is just more madeup nonsense.  Your anecdotal "nobody", again, has nothing to do with the moral issues under discussion here.

https://tinyurl.com/2p86sk28

Excerpt from a 2019 SSPX article (Note this article discusses recreational use, not medical use):

Is Using Marijuana a Sin?
The primary effect of the THC is to induce the “high,” and it is practically very rare that one could effectively avoid the stultifying effects of the drug.
For all of the above reasons – that is, impairing of the ability to think and judge properly, damage to the brain, fleeing from reality, unknown physical or psychosomatic effects, difficulty in dosing - moralists conclude that, even though the use of marijuana does not entirely totally suppress the use of reason, it is certainly gravely imprudent to use it.
Thus, the deliberate use of marijuana for recreational purposes is a mortal sin.“


https://florida.sspx.org/en/news-events/news/get-pot-just-say-no-47742

1) As Rochefoucald has observed, several posts have heavily implied support for recreational use.  Perhaps they were disingenuous, and/or taunting their adversaries, but to clear up any confusion, I posted the article. 

If nobody here is advocating recreational use, it’s difficult to understand Ladislaus’s repeated example of microdosing not being sinful (which seems to have no other purpose than to “prove” small amounts can be taken -even recreationally- without sin).

Even if that is conceded, see #2 below...


2) “practically very rare” (ie., that a pot user avoids the stultifying effects of MJ) is exactly accurate, not a “red flag” as you seem to think.  It clearly means that, unlike alcohol use, 1-2 puffs of weed are taken precisely to produce -and not avoid- this effect (and in fact, that effect is almost always produced).  Again, Ladislaus had to go all the way to “microdosing” to avoid recognizing that fact.

3) Mark79 is looking at the issue from the vantage of medicinal benefit, and in that regard he seems to have some knowledge.  But from the moral perspective, I’m sure he would not presume to know more about morals that traditional priests.  But in any case, the article is not discussing medicinal use.

Alcohol is highly regulated and manufactured, so when you look at a bottle, you know how much alcohol % is contained and you drink according to your tolerance (which is still subjective...because it drinking on an empty/full stomach can DRASTICALLY alter its effects).


MJ is not uniformly grown nor produced.  It is impossible to say that 1-2 puffs will get you high, or won't, without knowing the plant, producer, etc.  Again, it also depends on the person and how they react to such substances.

Some people can use asprin for pain relief; some people who take asprin will die from allergic shock.  The point is...people have to know what they are drinking/smoking and if they aren't responsible, they will sin.  God will hold them accountable according to their conscience, lukewarmness or carelessness.

But...for people who do research...they can safely and morally use MJ, in theory (I wouldn't know nor will I ever care to find out).

Once again your micro-dosing article like everything that Mark79 posts is of the world, not a one about recreational use of MJ, not a one written by a Catholic talking about the morality of recreational use. You know nothing of the real world, you can only write in the speculative realm where there are no repercussions. Everything you write about recreational use of MJ is just about saving face seeking a way around "being a sin". "If one does not get high it is not a sin". That is all you have left to hang on to. Moreover, all your articles are from the same sources as covid shots, the world and not the Church. You have fallen hook line and sinker for the idea that science just discovered this snake oil, Marijuana, that cures just about everything. Follow the money, it is all funded by the same people as the Covid shots/"pandemic". I am talking about recreational use of marijuana and you keep bringing in secular articles about unproven medical use.

Where are Mark79's children in all of this, how have they faired using his "discoveries" the last 3 years? No answer. Well, it is where your children will be if you follow him. The blind leading the blind.

I hold that pot has a worse reputation, more avoidance/mistrust, etc. than it deserves.

Meanwhile, man-made chemical drugs developed and produced by Big Pharma have *way* more respect and trust than they deserve.

If your mother or Grandma had a few bottles of Big Pharma wares on her counter, you wouldn't bat an eye. But if she had medicinal pot, it would be completely different.
Why is that? Totally irrational.

All the evidence points to the dangers of Big Pharma and great benefits from natural remedies, including medicinal pot.

More to ponder with regards to the sin of scandal:

Would it be okay for a priest to roll a low dose joint at a social event?  Not to get high but just to relax and help with his anxiety and back pain?

How about nuns?

I was going to bring this up in the vulgar language thread as well.  If there is nothing wrong with vulgar language and it's a necessary evil to wake people up, shouldn't priests start to employ its use regularly?

And the nuns as well...

Yes.  It should be as acceptable as if they drank a glass of wine