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Offline Bataar

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Re: Suffering from loneliness
« Reply #75 on: July 09, 2023, 05:18:12 PM »
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  • There's also the catch 22 that no one talks about in that being single at my age makes it nearly impossible to make regular male friends as well. The vast majority of men my age are married and married men simply don't have time to hang out and interact with their single guy friends.

    You can't really get a girlfriend unless you have other guy friends to interact with and you can't get other guy friends unless you already have a wife or girlfriend. 

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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #76 on: July 09, 2023, 05:45:18 PM »
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  • I think it's providential that you bumped this thread today and that this is this Sunday's sermon by St. Alphonsus:

    Garden Of Mary » Dedicated to our Blessed Mother! » Sixth Sunday After Pentecost – On The Vanity Of The World

    It says:

    Man expects to content his heart with the goods of this earth; but, howsoever abundantly he may possess them, he is never satisfied. Hence, he always seeks after more of them, and is always unhappy. Oh! happy he who wishes for nothing but God; for God will satisfy all the desires of his heart. “Delight in the Lord, and he will give thee the requests of thy heart.” (Ps. xxxvi. 4.)

    I'll pray but I think you need to read the sermon.
    ¡Viva Jesús!

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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #77 on: July 09, 2023, 06:34:09 PM »
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  • Keep praying for me, please. Not sure why, but this pain feels a lot worse lately. I'm not suicidal by any means, but I'm 44 and feel like I'm just waiting to die as my life has nothing else going for it and I don't have anything to realistically hope for.
    That is your cross. That one thing that is so difficult and that would make your life so much easier if it wasn't there. Take up your cross each day and carry it with Christ. The sacrifice of our Lord on the cross is the source of all graces. Every grace flows from his passion. Christ, the son of God carried his cross; we, sons of God by baptism, should carry ours. Carrying our crosses is made meritorious when united to Christ. Work now, so that you may enjoy the company of the best of friends with God for eternity.

    Strive to live every moment in the presence of God that all that you do may be one continual prayer.

    "O Christian, know thy dignity" St Leo the great. 
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #78 on: July 09, 2023, 10:07:04 PM »
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  • I'll pray for you again.  I'm someone who is/was in much the same boat except I'm 40yo.
    I've said it before and St. Giles probably just said it better but this is our cross to carry.  The fact that it's something we wanted more than anything in the world is probably why we're not getting it, because if we did God knows we would likely make an idol out of it and end up in Hell because of it.  Plus we are called to sacrifice things we want for love of God who is THE Supreme Good, no mere woman can come close to fulfilling us the way He can.  

    DISCLAIMER:  I am NOT necessarily saying that God wants you to be single for life.  That's between you and Him, just stating that it might be the same situation that I'm seeing myself in.  But He at least wants you to carry this cross for now.  

    I came to the realization that I'm just meant to be single and maybe you are too (at least for now) and the faster you can make peace with that the better things will go and the struggle won't be nearly as intense, although there will still be pangs of loneliness (which is what I'm sure you're going through again because I recall a couple weeks ago you said things were better but I knew they would likely come back as that's the way this cross is, sometimes you'll be extremely happy to be single, wonder what you even see in modern women as a partner anyway, and have no desire for marriage whatsoever, and then days later it can hit hard again and you want nothing more than to have a companion.)  It's a tough cross but you are being asked to bare it for love of Him (at least for now, maybe for life.)  

    What helped me is a Novena to St. Joseph and I asked that if I'm meant to be married that I can find the right woman and if not that I can learn to carry the cross and not be in an almost constant state of depression and despair.  Ask your Guardian Angel to help you as well that you can learn to unite your suffering with Christ.  It went from intense despair with even suicidal thoughts and tendencies to a mild to sometimes moderate struggle after those prayer intentions.  Most days I'm "ok," a few days I'm "good," and only once in a while I'm "not ok" but it's MUCH more tolerable than it was.  

    If you want to talk to a guy you can always message me too, we're close in age and in the same social situation.      

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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #79 on: July 10, 2023, 01:15:53 AM »
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  • Being single isn't the problem by itself, although it's a big cause. The problem is that I don't have anyone in my life I can interact with. The last time I interacted with a friend was back in early February. I feel like I'm being forced to live as a hermit without the God given grace and strength to do so. 


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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #80 on: July 10, 2023, 01:38:34 AM »
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  • After 50 years of life on this earth I personally know of no really happy marriages, honestly.

    The ones I know are valiant warriors who are bearing it out despite the personal pain and suffering it causes.

    There may be exceptions out there of course, but I'm only talking from personal experience.

    Many children bring as many sorrows and sufferings as they bring earthly joys even in the best of circuмstances.

    This is not to say that marriage and childbearing are not gifts from God with many joys,

    but they are HIGHLY overrated as providers for happiness.

    It's common for a spouse to feel acute loneliness in the marriage bed

    and for a parent to feel acute loneliness in their living room surrounded by their family

    simply because they do not share the same faith (and goals for sanctity)

    even if they attend the same church.


    This phenomena would be very hard for a single person to imagine

    but it is real nonetheless and probably experienced by many at your chapel.


    Some of the advantages to single life include:

    the ability to think clearly because of a life of silence.


    Often in a large family you are not able to complete a sentence much less have a moment of silence to complete a personal thought.


    This makes it difficult to think through and process emotions as they arise and respond with reason and grace

    much less contemplate and grow in spiritual matters.



    There is so much more that can be said...


    The "grass is always greener" is very, very true!









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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #81 on: July 10, 2023, 02:17:29 AM »
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  • Just following up to share this sermon, which is so profound, on the nature of suffering which is found in every state in life but does not 

    discount the fact

    that suffering is real and painful.


    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #82 on: July 10, 2023, 08:23:39 AM »
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  • After 50 years of life on this earth I personally know of no really happy marriages, honestly.

    The ones I know are valiant warriors who are bearing it out despite the personal pain and suffering it causes.

    There may be exceptions out there of course, but I'm only talking from personal experience.

    Many children bring as many sorrows and sufferings as they bring earthly joys even in the best of circuмstances.

    This is not to say that marriage and childbearing are not gifts from God with many joys,

    but they are HIGHLY overrated as providers for happiness.

    It's common for a spouse to feel acute loneliness in the marriage bed

    and for a parent to feel acute loneliness in their living room surrounded by their family

    simply because they do not share the same faith (and goals for sanctity)

    even if they attend the same church.


    This phenomena would be very hard for a single person to imagine

    but it is real nonetheless and probably experienced by many at your chapel.


    Some of the advantages to single life include:

    the ability to think clearly because of a life of silence.


    Often in a large family you are not able to complete a sentence much less have a moment of silence to complete a personal thought.


    This makes it difficult to think through and process emotions as they arise and respond with reason and grace

    much less contemplate and grow in spiritual matters.



    There is so much more that can be said...


    The "grass is always greener" is very, very true!

    Great post, and absolutely true!!!!


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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #83 on: July 10, 2023, 08:38:09 AM »
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  • I'm in my mid-50s with three adult children.  I have no spouse, no extended family connections, no friends.  Thankfully I'm an introvert so I don't get lonely but every once in a blue moon I get bored.  Then I'll just take on a new interest.  Right now my focus is on updating a house I just bought.  I'm also looking to take a second remote IT job so I can stack coins.  I keep myself busy with work and hobbies.  I agree with the statement that marriage is overrated as a source of personal happiness.  People get married thinking it will be like prom night that lasts 50 years but really it's like 50 years with your parents.  Not much different but maybe less freedom.  

    Fr. Girouard once told me "marriage is a school of virtue" and with that I think we can all agree.  

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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #84 on: July 10, 2023, 10:14:53 PM »
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  • I'm in my mid-50s with three adult children.  I have no spouse, no extended family connections, no friends.  Thankfully I'm an introvert so I don't get lonely but every once in a blue moon I get bored.  Then I'll just take on a new interest.  Right now my focus is on updating a house I just bought.  I'm also looking to take a second remote IT job so I can stack coins.  I keep myself busy with work and hobbies.  I agree with the statement that marriage is overrated as a source of personal happiness.  People get married thinking it will be like prom night that lasts 50 years but really it's like 50 years with your parents.  Not much different but maybe less freedom. 

    Fr. Girouard once told me "marriage is a school of virtue" and with that I think we can all agree. 
    Rather than stacking coins and keeping busy with hobbies, I'd use that extra income from a second job to help the poor at church repair/maintain their house, improve their home garden, cover car maintenance and help them to afford to travel to mass more often than just on sunday, if there's mass available on other days. There's not enough community cooperation and sharing of possessions these days as there was mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles.
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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #85 on: July 12, 2023, 12:41:34 PM »
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  • Praying for you, Bataar

    :pray:

    Remember your Guardian Angel!


    Angel of God, my guardian dear,
    to whom God’s love commits me here,
    ever this day be at my side,
    to light and guard, to rule and guide.


    Amen.

    Surge, Domine, et dissipentur inimici, et eos qui oderunt te, a facie tua!  
    St Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle!
    +J M J+


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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #86 on: July 12, 2023, 01:32:47 PM »
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  • Rather than stacking coins and keeping busy with hobbies, I'd use that extra income from a second job to help the poor at church repair/maintain their house, improve their home garden, cover car maintenance and help them to afford to travel to mass more often than just on sunday, if there's mass available on other days. There's not enough community cooperation and sharing of possessions these days as there was mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles.

    I'd love to hear more this.  Can you share with us your experiences with working a second job to help the poor?  Do you just pay their bills for them or give them cash?  Not sure how to go about it so would love to hear how you are managing it.  Do you write it off on your taxes and if so how to you do that?  Do you get receipts from the poor people?  Thanks.

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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #87 on: July 12, 2023, 05:26:41 PM »
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  • I'd love to hear more this.  Can you share with us your experiences with working a second job to help the poor?  Do you just pay their bills for them or give them cash?  Not sure how to go about it so would love to hear how you are managing it.  Do you write it off on your taxes and if so how to you do that?  Do you get receipts from the poor people?  Thanks.
    Unfortunately my situation changed to where I have very little income, so I can't give as much as I'd like, but I try to give material necessities rather than just cash. I'll offer physical labor when I have some free time, either just me, or get a few friends together to tackle a job that either saves money or could cost a lot to pay a business to do it. I'll start garden plants as my hobby to plant a garden for someone, or give them gas or oil and a filter for their car. Every little bit helps especially when the miles rack up quickly when the drive to church is so far. I'm a dummy when it comes to tax stuff, so if the gov. is happy, I don't care much about writeoffs as long as I have enough to survive and help others with.
    "Be you therefore perfect, as also your heavenly Father is perfect."
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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #88 on: September 07, 2023, 10:48:09 PM »
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  • Kind of had to chuckle and grimace simultaneously today. During confession, the priest told me I need to spend more time with good, Catholic friends. I definitely wish I could, but I feel that I've had hermitage forced on me.

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    Re: Suffering from loneliness
    « Reply #89 on: September 07, 2023, 11:11:54 PM »
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  • Kind of had to chuckle and grimace simultaneously today. During confession, the priest told me I need to spend more time with good, Catholic friends. I definitely wish I could, but I feel that I've had hermitage forced on me.
    Consolations and dis-consolations go hand in hand, the gate is strait and the way narrow.

    :pray: Carrying our Cross isn't always easy, I try to find the Lords' sweetness even in the dis-consolations.

    - For my yoke is sweet and my burden light.
    - If so be you have tasted that the Lord is sweet.
    - The Lord is sweet and righteous: therefore he will give a law to sinners in the way.
    - O taste, and see that the Lord is sweet: blessed is the man that hopeth in him.
    - For the Lord is sweet, his mercy endureth for ever, and his truth to generation and generation.
    - The Lord is sweet to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works.
    - Praise ye the Lord, for the Lord is good: sing ye to his name, for it is sweet.
    - But thou, O Lord, do with me for thy name's sake: because thy mercy is sweet. Do thou deliver me,
    - O how good and sweet is thy spirit, O Lord, in all things!