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Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2023, 05:17:05 AM »
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  • Check out the book "Turtles all the way down", there is also a source list for it.
    On the Amazon (Aust) page there are 10 different books by different authors under that name. How about the authors name and a little about it.
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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #31 on: August 05, 2023, 05:59:01 AM »
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  • We have 9 kids, and no:

    autism
    allergies
    frequent earaches
    gut issues
    auto-immune issues

    Statistically that's impossible, given the numbers for the current year. Look at any public school classroom of 25 kids, and see how many cases of the above you observe in nature.

    (Our oldest got a few vaccines before 6 months, but that was it)

    The # of vaccines given to kids by age 5 spiked highly between the "children of the 80's" and the current age. You should google it. It's a common fact. And that's when the FDA overhauled the US requirements for food labeling. Who remembers the food labels BEFORE this change? Hint: there was no section for allergens.

    Contains: nuts, soy, wheat, milk

    In bold at the end of every ingredient list.

    I frequently tell people about my own experience in public school. In 2nd grade, we had a field trip during which we "auctioned off" 25 sack lunches, one for each child. The bidding was capped at 50 cents. My point? Could you imagine the lawsuits, the number of epi-pens needed, the number of ambulances that would show up if they had an event like this today? They would NEVER do such a thing now. Too many allergies among the children. AND WHY? It's not because of smartphones. It's certainly not because of electricity or pollution; we had plenty of those in the 80's (We're talking about the 1980s, not the Old West). What has changed from the 80's to today? Which of those things could POSSIBLY explain the skyrocketing incidence of autism and the other things listed above?
    I believe they're up to 72 doses of 17 different vaxxes from what I've heard recently, , which is insane.

    And sadly, many of the children have gone insane as a result.

    Have you actually sat down and tried to talk to some of the younger generation?

    Completely incapable of having a normal discussion and can't focus or stay still for a second.

    These vaccinations are literally destroying a whole generation.


    The recent clot shots are just there to finish them off.


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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #32 on: August 05, 2023, 06:13:45 AM »
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  • Has anyone had this experience, personally, and how did you reach a decision?? Apart from prayer.

    We have drastically different opinions about the safety /necessity of childhood vaccines. We are expecting our first child soon, and this question is looming over us. My research makes me against them;  he is “for” all of them.
    He better really think about that.

    those vaxxes can be really deadly, some right away, but some later in life.

    My son and his wife chose not to vaxx their second child, especially after all this nonsense the last few years. She's about 2 and doing fine, a lot more calmer and less sickly than her older sibling who did all the scheduled vaxxes years ago.

    I think vaxxes are like the public school system, you need to not engage with them. every since my daughter in law home schooled, she's been way ahead academically, and look at all the grooming, dumbing down and brainwashing in the last three years alone they pushed on the children. Same with the "covid" shot being pushed on them, a complete lie and travesty that they "need" a "vaccine" that is not even technically a VACCINE.

    I don't know, I wouldn't trust these medicine men today with my children for a second.

    My opinion, your husband needs to read, research and learn about what their going to put into HIS CHILDREN'S BODY. You can't make a more detailed ever to learn about that. I'm sure he researched and learned before he bought a car or a house, started a business, invested in education, etc. Even his own health at that.

    He needs to really think this through, both of you, read, learn, pray and ask for the discernment on a very important decision.

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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #33 on: August 05, 2023, 06:19:20 AM »
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  • To be fair Matthew, even if couples have these conversations with good intentions prior to marriage, things can look very different once they are actually dealing with these things as a married couple. 
    A good point, another thing is, when did they get married?

    Because the last three years or so has opened a lot of peoples eyes.

    Especially on vaccinations.

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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #34 on: August 05, 2023, 06:28:13 AM »
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  • A good book on vaxxes from a Catholic perspective to check out;

    VaccinationA Catholic Perspective

    Pamela Acker

    Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation, Dec 12, 2020 - Medical ethics - 86 pages

    https://books.google.com/books/about/Vaccination.html?id=pHwQzgEACAAJ

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    In Vaccination: A Catholic Perspective, Biologist Pamela Acker provides a balanced examination of the whole subject of vaccination from a Catholic perspective which will allow Catholic leaders from the Pope and the Bishops down to parents and teachers to make an informed judgment on proposals to mandate vaccinations for the novel coronavirus or for other infectious diseases. The author is ideally qualified to undertake this task. A devout Catholic with a master's degree in Biology from the Catholic University of America, Pamela worked in the field of vaccine development and has the right combination of knowledge and experience to evaluate the scientific basis for vaccination as currently practiced. In her book, Miss Acker takes the reader through the history of vaccination while giving a comprehensive introduction to the marvels of the divinely-designed human immune system. Drawing upon the latest research in the field, Miss Acker elucidates the many problematic aspects of vaccination as currently practiced and explains how they flow out of a materialistic, mechanistic, evolution-based understanding of the human person which tends to see man as a collection of parts rather than as a divinely-designed body-soul composite. With powerful examples she shows how the evolution-based approach to the study of disease has had disastrous consequences for scientific and medical research and has supported the maintenance of inadequate criteria for evaluating the efficacy and the dangers of vaccination as currently practiced. Upon this foundation, Miss Acker provides readers with the information they need to make an informed decision about vaccination in general and about a vaccination for the novel coronavirus in particular.



    I believe the author's sister or niece was vaccine injured by the Gardasil vaxx, so she has a very interesting perspective and personal investment on these issues.


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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #35 on: August 05, 2023, 07:20:23 PM »
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  • A good book on vaxxes from a Catholic perspective to check out;

    Vaccination: A Catholic Perspective

    Pamela Acker

    Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation, Dec 12, 2020 - Medical ethics - 86 pages

    https://books.google.com/books/about/Vaccination.html?id=pHwQzgEACAAJ

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    In Vaccination: A Catholic Perspective, Biologist Pamela Acker provides a balanced examination of the whole subject of vaccination from a Catholic perspective which will allow Catholic leaders from the Pope and the Bishops down to parents and teachers to make an informed judgment on proposals to mandate vaccinations for the novel coronavirus or for other infectious diseases. The author is ideally qualified to undertake this task. A devout Catholic with a master's degree in Biology from the Catholic University of America, Pamela worked in the field of vaccine development and has the right combination of knowledge and experience to evaluate the scientific basis for vaccination as currently practiced. In her book, Miss Acker takes the reader through the history of vaccination while giving a comprehensive introduction to the marvels of the divinely-designed human immune system. Drawing upon the latest research in the field, Miss Acker elucidates the many problematic aspects of vaccination as currently practiced and explains how they flow out of a materialistic, mechanistic, evolution-based understanding of the human person which tends to see man as a collection of parts rather than as a divinely-designed body-soul composite. With powerful examples she shows how the evolution-based approach to the study of disease has had disastrous consequences for scientific and medical research and has supported the maintenance of inadequate criteria for evaluating the efficacy and the dangers of vaccination as currently practiced. Upon this foundation, Miss Acker provides readers with the information they need to make an informed decision about vaccination in general and about a vaccination for the novel coronavirus in particular.



    I believe the author's sister or niece was vaccine injured by the Gardasil vaxx, so she has a very interesting perspective and personal investment on these issues.
    Several interviews with Pam Acker on Life Site News -- no one would have vaccines after watching these.
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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #36 on: August 06, 2023, 06:13:47 PM »
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  • Several interviews with Pam Acker on Life Site News -- no one would have vaccines after watching these.
    Yes, i've seen her also on several interviews as well, i also have that book, very informative, she's very good.

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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #37 on: August 06, 2023, 08:27:45 PM »
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  • A good book on vaxxes from a Catholic perspective to check out;

    Vaccination: A Catholic Perspective

    I believe the author's sister or niece was vaccine injured by the Gardasil vaxx, so she has a very interesting perspective and personal investment on these issues.
    Gardasil?  No vaccine is necessary because there is a 100% foolproof way not to get the kinds of cervical cancer this vaccine purports to protect against, in the cervix or anywhere else in the body of either female or male.  Abstain from sex until married, marry only someone who has done the same, remain faithful to spouse, abstain altogether from nonreproductive sɛҳuąƖ acts.  One can also remain celibate with the same results.  
    Too late to follow these rules? Live chastely starting now. Get a blood test.  If symptoms develop, get tested and start immediate treatment if results are positive.  
    Any woman can potentially develop cervical cancer if she has a cervix, even if she’s been celibate.  But that’s rare and won’t be be prevented by a Gardasil vaccine!  
    We have a huge uptick in cervical cancer thanks to Bill and Monica.  
    The CDC is now pushing for requiring Gardasil for all nine year olds, males included.  

    I’m not entirely opposed to all vaccines, unlike most on CI, but when a vaccine isn’t a true vaccine, just an injected preventative needing frequent administration, insufficiently safety tested, has potentially serious side-effects, or is obtained or made using abortive or euthanized materials, my answer is no!  In case of the first mentioned, I will possibly make use of it unless it’s medically doubtful or immoral.  Just don’t call it a vaccine if I need it every other month!  Call it a preventative injection.  Do I take some medicines for prevention?  Yes, I take a multivitamin-mineral tablet every day.  That’s not a vaccine.  In the former Eastern block countries, people used to take these via injection or infusion.  Same thing, same purpose, not a vaccine.  There are lots of “vaccines” for which I have no need, for which the majority of humans have no need.  Which newborns in the US are really at risk of hepatitis?  How many are going to be exposed to hepatitis infected blood, breast milk, or are going to be engaging in sɛҳuąƖ acts?  How many adults and children are at risk?  If the risk is real and the vaccine is moral, okay, go for it.  
    Doctors don’t know their patients and most don’t care or have time to do anything but follow the protocol set by nameless bureaucrats and pharmaceutical corporations.  I’m tired of being told to roll up sleeve for MMR booster.  I’m in my late 60’s.  A check of my records will indicate I had M, M, and R in childhood conferring lifelong immunity.  Same with varicella.  Since they don’t make available a moral shingles vaccine, I’ll take my chances.  I’m thankful I don’t have young children, because if I did, I’d have to move or not enroll them in school, camp, or any kind of official organization.  The state requires numerous immoral and unnecessary vaccines.  They’d be staying home and have to make do without regular Mass, Sacraments, and social contacts. In fact, they’d likely be taken by CPS, so there’s a good reason God didn’t give me any!  Sometimes I can’t provide for myself much less children.   
    Occasionally, I do accept a flu injection, but I research first to find out the predominant strain, whether or not I’m likely to have had it, and its virulence.  If they go to an exclusively mRNA version, then I’ll not be getting it any time soon.  Too many people are dying of sudden cardiac events after getting the Covid jabs.  (This is not to mention the moral issue.)  


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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #38 on: August 06, 2023, 11:32:56 PM »
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  • Gardasil?  No vaccine is necessary because there is a 100% foolproof way not to get the kinds of cervical cancer this vaccine purports to protect against, in the cervix or anywhere else in the body of either female or male.  Abstain from sex until married, marry only someone who has done the same, remain faithful to spouse, abstain altogether from nonreproductive sɛҳuąƖ acts.  One can also remain celibate with the same results. 
    Too late to follow these rules? Live chastely starting now. Get a blood test.  If symptoms develop, get tested and start immediate treatment if results are positive. 
    Any woman can potentially develop cervical cancer if she has a cervix, even if she’s been celibate.  But that’s rare and won’t be be prevented by a Gardasil vaccine! 
    We have a huge uptick in cervical cancer thanks to Bill and Monica. 
    The CDC is now pushing for requiring Gardasil for all nine year olds, males included. 


    The safety Gardasil has not been researched. Here is Dr Deirdre Little who investigated the case of a 17-yr-old woman who is now menopausal as a result of a series of 3 Gardasil injections. 

    https://cradio.org.au/topics/life-issues/bioethics/the-gardasil-imperative/

    Dr Deirdre Little is a University of Sydney graduate with 25 years experience as a GP obstetrician with strong representation in a number of Catholic and secular organisations and publications. To find out more about her research, or to obtain a full-text copy of her paper on Gardasil in the British Medical Journal, you can get in touch with Dr Little via email.


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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #39 on: August 06, 2023, 11:41:05 PM »
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  • OP, don't miss the thread Are vaccines Safe? 26 pages of it.

    including https://www.cathinfo.com/health-and-nutrition/are-vaccines-safe/msg586885/#msg586885
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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #40 on: August 11, 2023, 02:10:24 PM »
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  • Pediatrician admits he lies to parents about vaccine safety.

    https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/do-vaccines-cause-autism-2/


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    Re: Husband and wife at impasse: to vaccinate the kids or not??
    « Reply #41 on: August 11, 2023, 03:12:30 PM »
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  • Our grand daughter, 12 years ago, was given a vaccine/no inoculation.  She went through vomiting, diarrhea, dehydration, finally 3 weeks later to the hospital.  I asked my daughter if she got a shot.  Both her and her husband were tight lipped.  Then daughter said, it is not the shot.  I said,  why, because you did not see a reaction soon after?  Reactions can show up 3 weeks later. Read.  And just as grand daughter was to leave the hospital, she went into seizure, for 2 hours!
    My daughter was crying, "My baby, my baby!"

    She is ok at the age of 12, but her parents never, never had her take any shots there after!