I think one of the reasons the carnivore diet appeals to a lot of people is because the majority of Americans have some sort of metabolic disorder, mostly stemming from insulin resistance.  Meat stimulates insulin moderately, fats (not from seed oil) very minimally.  The foods that we’ve been brought up on since the 80’s have been heavily processed and genetically modified.  After decades of eating like this the body has to heal.  Carnivore is an avenue some take. 

Yes and sugar has been demonized by big-food so they could introduce new foods (ie artificial sweeteners, low carb foods, plant-based foods, low fat, etc).  The “guidance” on what to eat changes (just like the fashion industry) every decade or so. 

People in the 40s and 50s ate carbs with no problem.  Most foods we grow are carbs.  But then big-food introduces high/fructose corn syrup to replace cane sugar and that affects the body MAJORLY different.  I think normal sugar is broken down in the liver.  High fructose is broken down by the pancreas.  Pancreatic cancer is a modern thing.

I can’t blame people for being confused.  Moderation is the key.  The whole carnivore vs sugar diet is missing the point.  You need both. 

The real health enemy is plant-based oils and too many fried foods ets.  There’s no way to get diabetes if you eat a low fat diet.  Absolutely no way. 

Carnivore can reverse diabetes because if you’re just eating butter/meat then you’re avoiding plant oils/omega 6 toxicity.  That’s good. 

But the quickest way is a fruit/sugar/bread diet….same diet God gives us for lent.  The Lenten diet is the fastest way to health, no question. 

But you can’t live (or few can) on the lenten diet long-term.  You need some protein.  But you don’t need all the oils. 

The western diet pre-1960s had a normal amount of fats/carbs.  It's not fats per se, but 1) too much fat and 2) eating omega 6s in processed plant oils.  If you're going to eat fat, then eat either butter or coconut oil.  (Olive oil is obviously ok but this industry has been screwed with so much, that most olive oils are bogus and tampered with.  So it's best to stay away).

Canola, peanut, soybean, etc.  These are all garbage for you and will do way more damage than any amount of sugar.  These oils block your insulin receptors, so that when you DO eat carbs, and when your body releases insulin, it releases too much because the receptors are blocked with oil and can't get the message that "ok, that's enough food".  Then you have a tendency to overeat because you're not satisfied.  The body releases insulin to tell the digestive system that enough energy has been eaten.  If the insulin receptors are blocked off, then the body doesn't get this message and food cravings continue and more insulin is released.  Then your system gets stressed out (i.e. insulin sensitivity).

The other problem with omega 6/plant oils is that the body is not designed to eat this much of it.  The amount of corn oil in one teaspoon is equivalent to like 30 pieces of corn.  But thanks to modern engineering, we're able to "eat" these types of oils, in HUGE amounts that nature never intended. 

The body can break down large amouts of butter; God gave us cows and butter in large quantities; we've been eating it for centuries with no obesity issues. 
The body can break down fish oils; humans have been eating fish for centuries.
The body can break down coconut oils and olive oils and avocados.  These plants have naturally occurring high-fat content.  We're meant to eat them like this.

But it's a modern science experiment to be eating plant oils coming from plants which (to the naked eye) don't have a lot of oil.  Corn, soybean, peanuts --- eat a handful of these plants.  Are they oily?  No.  Not like an avocado or an olive or a coconut.

But process 1,000s of these plants at once, put them into a blender and extract the oils -- and then add an entire teaspoon of it in the same ratio that we eat a teaspoon of butter.  Does that sound normal?  No.  And the human body can't handle it.  It's a huge amount of calories and a huge strain on the system.

Not only are omega 6 oils not the greatest, once you process them, they become even worse.

Processed oils and too much (even good) fats cause diabetes.  Not sugar.  To get rid of diabetes, switch to a low, low fat diet.  Carnivore/butter/meat can also work. 

Weighlifters eat low-fat protein and carbs - no problem.
Carnivores eat high fat, no carbs - no problem.
High carb people eat high carbs and no oils - no problem.

The major problem is a mix of carbs/oils.

I guess eating only soured milk is in Christian now.

carnivore is not the lion diet…….

The Lion Diet is strictly red meat & water which mimics the way our ancestors ate

The body burns though 4.7 grams of sugar much faster than 2.3 grams of fat. You know nothing about nutrition and biochemistry. Stop posting your ignorance. Your body is a biological jail cell. You lose.

If you like sugar then eat sugar, knock yourself out and eat to your hearts content.
 I like meat so that's what I eat. Why is that any concern of yours? Not sure why you get twisted about what others eat. 

If you like sugar then eat sugar, knock yourself out and eat to your hearts content.
 I like meat so that's what I eat. Why is that any concern of yours? Not sure why you get twisted about what others eat.

You're the one responding to my posts about the high carb-low fat diet. You're going out of your way to interject your ignorance on these threads. I thoroughly relish living rent-free inside your mind.
Go ahead, eat your fatty carnivore/keto diet. Be rotund and low energy all you want.
I'll keep being single digit body fat and winning.

Pre-flood, no human ate animal meat.  God only allowed it after the flood because He shortened man’s life.  I’m not anti-carnivore, but a 100% carnivore diet is not a historically accurate diet.  At best, a paleo diet (meat, fruit, veggies, bread) is the typical diet for Western civilization. 

But our ancestors were hunters, they would find meat, kill it, fire it up and then eat it, they weren’t out looking for plant food. I get what you’re saying but historically speaking meat was plentiful and main food source 

The white civilization is typically an agricultural culture - farming, settling the land, and building cities.  Hunting was only 1 aspect of this.  And no, meat was not the main food source.

Methinks you are brainwashed by the cave-man stories, where people lived in caves and hunted wild pigs to survive.  Adam, Noah and the pre-flood ancestors were an agricultural culture.  Post flood, God told Noah and his sons to spread out upon the earth and cultivate it.  Sure, there was hunting.  But that was a short-term solution.  Long term, they settled the land, planted food and built civilization.  When meat was plentiful, it was because it came from farm animals they were raising.

The native indians hunted wild animals.  Hardly ever built cities and their lifestyle was of a nomad.  They didn't settle down or build anything.  "Hunter/gatherers" is a low-IQ activity.  It's not sustainable long-term.  Which is why most indiginous peoples didn't flourish...they had to conquer/fight other tribes to survive.  They didn't have the IQ (or the work ethic) to build any long-term cities.

I’ll admit you’re well versed so i tale that into consideration, but i would maintain when meat became plentiful, more of it was eaten as opposed to plant options , would uou agree?