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Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
« on: January 29, 2024, 06:32:48 AM »
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    • I have receding gums, and I have to have a gum graft done on two of my teeth this Spring (two separate surgeries since they are the two canine teeth/on separate sides of the mouth).  I think there are a couple of ways periodontists can perform this type of surgery, but I am having the graft taken from the roof of my mouth.  Has anyone had this procedure done?  Any advice on what to expect?

    My other question relates to the use of Valium/Diazepram.  Since my blood pressure was on the high side for my consultation, I have to take a 5mg dose the night before and the morning of the surgery.  I have never taken this, so I'm concerned how this will affect me. My husband will be driving me.  Anyone else use this drug on short term basis like this? Will I be able to function normally in the morning?

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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #1 on: January 29, 2024, 02:59:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on January 29, 2024, 06:32:48 AM
    I have receding gums, and I have to have a gum graft done on two of my teeth this Spring (two separate surgeries since they are the two canine teeth/on separate sides of the mouth).  I think there are a couple of ways periodontists can perform this type of surgery, but I am having the graft taken from the roof of my mouth.  Has anyone had this procedure done?  Any advice on what to expect?

    My other question relates to the use of Valium/Diazepram.  Since my blood pressure was on the high side for my consultation, I have to take a 5mg dose the night before and the morning of the surgery.  I have never taken this, so I'm concerned how this will affect me. My husband will be driving me.  Anyone else use this drug on short term basis like this? Will I be able to function normally in the morning?

    Thanks.
    Making the disclaimer that I am not a doctor, and this is not medical advice, just anecdotal advice, 5mg of diazepam is a fairly small dose, and when I have taken it on a PRN basis for this or that, I haven't found it to cause any problem.  If you are not used to it, I'd recommend your husband driving you, especially if it is 10mg total.  That's not a lot of diazepam.

    Again, not medical advice, I'd ask my doctor or dentist.  Again, to be on the safe side, don't drive.
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #2 on: January 29, 2024, 04:13:57 PM »
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    • Sounds scary, (the graft, I mean). I have never heard of such a procedure. My first thought to myself is that this condition is just another aspect of aging, which can’t be stopped (except by death:laugh1:). Isn’t that where the expression “ he’s a bit long in the tooth” originates.

    My second thought is that I hope this condition is not causing you too much stress.

    I do sympathise with your dilemma, 2V. Sorry I can’t help but think that western (“first world”) man is so overmedicalised.

    I think that most people’s BP is raised at the thought of a visit to the dentist
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #3 on: January 29, 2024, 05:00:06 PM »
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    • I can see Valium for your nerves prior to the procedure, but usually valium is not a treatment for high blood pressure the night before, although it may help you sleep better.
    when you are all healed, check out the youtube video for this female dentist who has a lot of preventative treatment for receding gums and bone loss



    I stopped the receding of my gums with coconut oil pulling and xylitol gum. I must admit they weren't terrible but I noticed them slowly going in the wrong direction. This actually put a stop to it.
    I'll say a prayer to Our Lady that all goes well for you-
    PS- The only problem with valium is that you might wind up liking it! ( kidding)
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #4 on: January 30, 2024, 06:21:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on January 29, 2024, 04:13:57 PM
    Sounds scary, (the graft, I mean). I have never heard of such a procedure. My first thought to myself is that this condition is just another aspect of aging, which can’t be stopped (except by death:laugh1:). Isn’t that where the expression “ he’s a bit long in the tooth” originates.

    My second thought is that I hope this condition is not causing you too much stress.

    I do sympathise with your dilemma, 2V. Sorry I can’t help but think that western (“first world”) man is so overmedicalised.

    I think that most people’s BP is raised at the thought of a visit to the dentist
    I always thought my gum recession was genetic (I'm guessing with age), but according to the periodontist it is likely (also?) due to wearing braces when I was younger.  

    As for the high BP, I was surprised by it because this particular appointment was just a consultation and I had had it once before, so I knew going in that it was no big deal.  I was not upset or worried at all.  In fact, it was way higher than I have ever had (I typically don't have high BP) and I wondered whether the assistant/device was wrong. 

    Anyway, even if it was wrong, I do think that it was probably a blessing in disguise because I will probably need something to calm me down for the surgeries because I am freaked out by them...assuming I go through with them this April and May.  

    With our dental insurance, these 2 surgeries will cost us $2,000 - $2,500.  Dental insurance in general is abysmal.  They only pay out an annual max of $1,500 (and that's after paying into the best option).  Any major work and you're done for the year.
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #5 on: January 30, 2024, 06:25:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on January 29, 2024, 05:00:06 PM
    I can see Valium for your nerves prior to the procedure, but usually valium is not a treatment for high blood pressure the night before, although it may help you sleep better.
    when you are all healed, check out the youtube video for this female dentist who has a lot of preventative treatment for receding gums and bone loss



    I stopped the receding of my gums with coconut oil pulling and xylitol gum. I must admit they weren't terrible but I noticed them slowly going in the wrong direction. This actually put a stop to it.
    I'll say a prayer to Our Lady that all goes well for you-
    PS- The only problem with valium is that you might wind up liking it! ( kidding)
    Correct.  The Valium is not for the high BP.  It's just that they will NOT do the surgery if I do have high BP the day of the surgery, so they prescribed the Valium to calm the anxiety before the surgery.

    Is there any reason why I can't watch this now.. before the surgery?  Or does it show surgery stuff?  Because I am purposely avoiding that! If there might be other ways to deal with this, I'm all ears.  
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #6 on: January 30, 2024, 06:30:18 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimpleMan on January 29, 2024, 02:59:15 PM
    Making the disclaimer that I am not a doctor, and this is not medical advice, just anecdotal advice, 5mg of diazepam is a fairly small dose, and when I have taken it on a PRN basis for this or that, I haven't found it to cause any problem.  If you are not used to it, I'd recommend your husband driving you, especially if it is 10mg total.  That's not a lot of diazepam.

    Again, not medical advice, I'd ask my doctor or dentist.  Again, to be on the safe side, don't drive.
    Good to know that it doesn't cause any problem outside of driving.  My husband is driving me.  The doctor's office required that someone drove me.
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #7 on: January 30, 2024, 08:44:54 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on January 30, 2024, 06:25:20 AM
    Correct.  The Valium is not for the high BP.  It's just that they will NOT do the surgery if I do have high BP the day of the surgery, so they prescribed the Valium to calm the anxiety before the surgery.

    Is there any reason why I can't watch this now.. before the surgery?  Or does it show surgery stuff?  Because I am purposely avoiding that! If there might be other ways to deal with this, I'm all ears. 
    No- of course not! I Just didn't want you to be distracted from what seems to be the immediate course of action (surgery). Your condition may warrant the surgery right now and I didn't want to influence or upset you either way at this time. 
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #8 on: January 30, 2024, 11:07:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: josefamenendez on January 30, 2024, 08:44:54 AM
    No- of course not! I Just didn't want you to be distracted from what seems to be the immediate course of action (surgery). Your condition may warrant the surgery right now and I didn't want to influence or upset you either way at this time.
    Interesting video.  These 2 teeth may be too far along for some of her ideas, however.
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #9 on: January 30, 2024, 11:15:23 AM »
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    • I had this exact gum grafting done. Taken from the roof of the mouth, and grafted onto the gums. For me it was my lower front teeth. It worked out well, and I'm glad I had it done.
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #10 on: January 30, 2024, 11:17:23 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on January 29, 2024, 04:13:57 PM
    Isn’t that where the expression “ he’s a bit long in the tooth” originates.

    Actually, it originated in reference to some animals -- not humans.
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #11 on: January 30, 2024, 11:34:45 AM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on January 30, 2024, 11:15:23 AM
    I had this exact gum grafting done. Taken from the roof of the mouth, and grafted onto the gums. For me it was my lower front teeth. It worked out well, and I'm glad I had it done.
    How was the recovery? Did you have pain from roof of mouth?
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #12 on: January 30, 2024, 11:58:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on January 30, 2024, 11:34:45 AM
    How was the recovery? Did you have pain from roof of mouth?

    I don't remember it being that painful, nor the recovery very long.
    I was in my early 30's when I had it done.

    But again, I'd have to say I'm glad I went through with it. To this day, my "fixed" gums, where the graft was added, look about as good as the day it was done! And we're talking 15 years ago, no degradation. So it was worth it.
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    « Reply #13 on: January 30, 2024, 12:21:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on January 30, 2024, 11:58:41 AM
    I don't remember it being that painful, nor the recovery very long.
    I was in my early 30's when I had it done.

    But again, I'd have to say I'm glad I went through with it. To this day, my "fixed" gums, where the graft was added, look about as good as the day it was done! And we're talking 15 years ago, no degradation. So it was worth it.
    Excellent.  Thank you.
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    Re: Gum Surgery/Use of Valium
    « Reply #14 on: February 01, 2024, 11:49:11 AM »
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    • I think I'm leaning towards going for the surgery for the worst of the 2 teeth and waiting to make a decision on the second tooth next year. 

    This way I can see how the first surgery goes and also have some time in between them.  I don't know why I scheduled them 6 weeks apart. :facepalm: 

    Also, if I hold off the second tooth until the following calendar year, the insurance will cover most of the cost of each surgery.  We might have to shell out a total of only $500 instead of $2,000-$2,500.

    PS. Thanks for everyone's input.
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