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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Electrolyte drink and lent?
« on: February 04, 2024, 06:18:31 AM »
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  • Does anyone have experience making a electrolyte drink (salts) for periods of fasting? I hear they can make a big difference health wise and performance of daily duties, so I am looking more into this topic but also want to keep the Spirit of the fast (though I don't think this sort of drink is an issue here).


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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #1 on: February 04, 2024, 08:56:48 AM »
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  • Does anyone have experience making a electrolyte drink (salts) for periods of fasting? I hear they can make a big difference health wise and performance of daily duties, so I am looking more into this topic but also want to keep the Spirit of the fast (though I don't think this sort of drink is an issue here).
    I drink things such as Gatorade without qualms during Lenten fasting.  


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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #2 on: February 04, 2024, 09:14:50 AM »
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  • I understand that it can be confusing to use the correct ingredients and ratios and it can cause serious health consequences if mistakes are made. I buy pre-made sugar-free electrolyte mixes.

    They are immensely helpful during periods of fasting and illness. They help me to keep my energy up and avoid headaches. I've also noticed that I don't have food cravings when I use the electrolytes.

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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #3 on: February 04, 2024, 10:16:23 AM »
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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #4 on: February 04, 2024, 11:49:54 AM »
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  • Electrolyte drinks are ripoffs.  If you look into it, they give you maybe 5-10% of your recommended daily intake of sodium / potassium.

    You'd be much better off getting some sodium, potassium, calcium, and magnesium ... the four basic electrolytes.  If you get them in a powdered form and blend them into water, well, if you don't add any other flavoring, you won't be breaking the "spirit of Lent" by any stretch.  Stuff tastes foul, especially the magnesium.  That's actually one reason (besides cost) that Gatorade and other electrolyte drinks have so little of them actually in there.  Nobody would spent $2 per bottle for something that tastes terrible.

    Also, be very careful of magnesium, because it'll cause diarrhea if you take even a bit too much (it's a major ingredient in many laxatives).  I would start with no more than 10-20% of the recommended RDA, spread out throughout the day, and then build up to it.

    For sodium + potassium, I but this "Low-Sodium Salt" that's basically half sodium chloride and half potassium chloride.

    In any case, I tend to make my own electrolyte drinks because they can have 10x the electrolytes for 1/10th of the cost.

    If you don't want so much of the chloride, you can get powdered potassium citrate or potassium bicarbonate.  If you use some potassium iodide, you also get some iodine, which is good for you and in which most diets are deficient.  You can also buy sodium citrate.

    Magnesium glycinate is the form that's best absorbed and least likely to cause diarrhea.  Calcium citrate seems to the best absorbed form of calcium.

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    These might look expensive, but they'll last you forever, and would be 1/1000th of the cost to get the same electrolytes from something like Gatorade.



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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #5 on: February 04, 2024, 03:20:29 PM »
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  • I mix my own during the summer but at the moment I can't place the exact quantities except to say that those were calculated based on the RDA label of a popular brand of fizzy tablets.

    I use Redmonds salt, Nu-Salt for potassium chloride, and magnesium citrate powder (emptied from capsules) but not calcium (since I take that separately anyway). Sugar helps with absorption, a teaspoon per serving is not enough calories to interfere with fasting. To prevent the sugar from molding if the mix is stored for a while, add it to the water in the moment.

    Some recipes online say to mix a big batch and shake well each time so that everything is correctly proportioned. That sounds chancy, so what I do is use those flip-top pill organizers and measure into each compartment the dose for one serving of water. (Yes, this task is easier with 1/8 and 1/16 teaspoon measuring spoons, look for "mini measuring spoons" on amazon or whatever.)

    Important: If you do use electrolytes, remember to consider how much of these minerals (sodium especially but potassium too) are in the meal(s) that you ARE eating. Even if young and healthy, these are not to be played with since blood pressure and heart rate can be affected.
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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #6 on: February 04, 2024, 05:04:03 PM »
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  • Thanks for the responses everyone. One more thing, do these drinks make you run to the toilet?

    I know magnesium does, but what about the others?

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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #7 on: February 04, 2024, 05:23:06 PM »
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  • Thanks for the responses everyone. One more thing, do these drinks make you run to the toilet?

    I know magnesium does, but what about the others?

    Since the purpose of electrolytes is for hydration, actually these will help your system to hold on to liquids properly instead of draining it all out too quickly. Re magnesium, just keep it within reasonable limits and you should be OK. If you can, try to ease in before Lent so you can see how your body reacts and gets used to it.
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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #8 on: February 04, 2024, 05:26:03 PM »
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  • Since the purpose of electrolytes is for hydration, actually these will help your system to hold on to liquids properly instead of draining it all out too quickly. Re magnesium, just keep it within reasonable limits and you should be OK. If you can, try to ease in before Lent so you can see how your body reacts and gets used to it.

    Magnesium is something you have to build up to for sure.  If one teaspoon of the powder is 100% RDA, I'd take no more than 1/4 teaspoon per day to start, using magnesium glycinate if possible.

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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #9 on: February 04, 2024, 05:39:19 PM »
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  • Magnesium is something you have to build up to for sure.  If one teaspoon of the powder is 100% RDA, I'd take no more than 1/4 teaspoon per day to start, using magnesium glycinate if possible.

    Iirc, the ratio I used was four parts salt, two parts potassium, one part magnesium. The magnesium capsules I have are 150 mg, 36% RDA, and each capsule's enough for 6 to 8 doses. Unless I'm out all day in very hot weather, I keep it to no more than three doses per day. AP's in Australian summer right now, and working outdoors, so that's a consideration for him.
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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #10 on: February 04, 2024, 05:53:58 PM »
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  • Since the purpose of electrolytes is for hydration, actually these will help your system to hold on to liquids properly instead of draining it all out too quickly. Re magnesium, just keep it within reasonable limits and you should be OK. If you can, try to ease in before Lent so you can see how your body reacts and gets used to it.
    I plan on mixing it with 700ml of water, as that is the bottle size I take to work.


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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #11 on: February 04, 2024, 06:02:00 PM »
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  • Iirc, the ratio I used was four parts salt, two parts potassium, one part magnesium. The magnesium capsules I have are 150 mg, 36% RDA, and each capsule's enough for 6 to 8 doses. Unless I'm out all day in very hot weather, I keep it to no more than three doses per day. AP's in Australian summer right now, and working outdoors, so that's a consideration for him.

    I add some calcium also because I barely eat anything with calcium in it (not a big consumer of dairy).

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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #12 on: February 04, 2024, 06:18:35 PM »
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  • If you don't want "do it yourself" gatorade -- you're in a hurry, don't want to mess with it, etc. -- I would recommend Stur over Gatorade.

    Stur is a packet you mix into water. It has way more electrolytes, and uses Stevia for sweetener. So no HFCS, no sugar, almost no carbs, and no artificial sweeteners either. And it's powerful enough you can mix it into a good amount of water and it still tastes good.

    It's way cheaper than even the store brand gatorade.

    https://sturdrinks.com/products/stur-electrolyte-hydration-powder-fruit-punch-96-packets

    Also, I don't like those little squeeze bottles because any of them that are shelf-stable (won't grow bacteria at room temperature, after being "opened") invariably have Sodium Benzoate as a preservative. So I prefer powders -- which NEED no such preservatives -- to liquids.
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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #13 on: February 04, 2024, 09:34:23 PM »
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  • What are good ratios and total grams to have per 1L of water? Any good sources to read?

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    Re: Electrolyte drink and lent?
    « Reply #14 on: February 05, 2024, 04:43:32 AM »
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  • Does anyone have experience making a electrolyte drink (salts) for periods of fasting? I hear they can make a big difference health wise and performance of daily duties, so I am looking more into this topic but also want to keep the Spirit of the fast (though I don't think this sort of drink is an issue here).
    The monks used to drink beer during Lent and called it "liquid bread".  :popcorn:

    Drinking healthy liquids is definitely a good idea while fasting.  Our "go to" drinks are usually raw milk, homemade kombucha and lemonade.  All of these have helped me when I was feeling weak from fasting in the past.  Lemonade or kombucha with a pinch of salt has the same effect for me as drinking a Gatorade except that Gatorades make me sick. :cowboy:

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