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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2022, 02:21:24 AM »
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  • Since you repeat your error, I must repeat the antidote.



    It is good to see that quote to remind us how much we must hate moral errors that ravage Christian people. I want everyone to notice that it specifically says moral law errors, for moral ravages are siren songs that lure Christians to hell, contrary to physical chastisements like torture, killings, wars, and starvation, which actually serve to convert people and save them for all eternity.

    That female comedian did not die, let us hope that this collapse and fall at the point where she takes the Lord's Name in vain, serves to convert her (which would be a miracle) or other people, for if she dies in her current state of soul, she will without a doubt go to hell for all eternity. (P.S.- her blasphemies are a dust mite compared to the Elephant of moral law errors trumpeted by the Vatican II popes and all the clergy that expound the same)

    Here's a question on the subject of hell:

    If a man came into your home and you saw him kill your wife and children while you were tied up, at what point would you be satisfied that he has been physically punished by tortures from the authorities. Say he was scourged as Our Lord was scourged at the pillar in Mel Gibson's movie, or the man is beaten to a pulp, to one inch of death by twelve steel toed booted men, then taken to a hospital for the time and operations necessary to bring him back to enough health, and then once again scourged or beaten to one inch of death, and this goes on for all eternity. If you had to witness these tortures. At what point would you say that you were satisfied? Two or three beatings? Maybe five? Well, Hell is beatings for all eternity, every day. One can "say" they would not be satisfied for anything short of eternity, but it is another thing to witness it.








    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #31 on: February 11, 2022, 02:48:08 AM »
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  • What was really spooky was her whole body was trembling as if she had a seizure. 
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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #32 on: February 11, 2022, 06:25:59 AM »
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  • If you read, then re-read what I said. You quoted me, so read it. I did NOT say you were evil. Big difference. Wishing harm for someone else is evil.

    Her blasphemies (which are too vile to repeat here) deserve death.  As I said, I am not the one to dole it out, and it's up to God (or the state to administer justice), but if I were a Catholic magistrate I would order her arrested and put on trial, and then if she persisted, she should receive the death penalty.  Then, on top of that, other people might be deterred from doing the same thing.

    Of course, in a Catholic state, had her blasphemies been published by anyone, in video or print, the publication would also be held similarly accountable, and he filth would not have left the room in which she had uttered them.  Take it a step further, in a Catholic state, someone like Silverman would be scrubbing toilets in public restrooms rather than making millions of dollars purveying her filth.  Nobody would find her "funny" because she's not.  But because she's a Jew, she magically become a celebrity despite being bereft of any real talent whatsoever.

    With blasphemy, it's not even just about the harm she's done, but about the injury to the Honor and the Glory of God.  In Our Lord's prayer, the very first petition is "Hallowed be Thy Name".  Christians should burn with a love for God and for His Honor.  God's second commandment is to hold the name of God in Honor.

    There is no wishing of harm up some one out of pure malice or "pure evil"; it's a wish for her disgusting blasphemies to be put a stop to and the name of God to be held in Honor.  The more someone loves God, the more he desires that His Name be held in honor.

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #33 on: February 11, 2022, 06:31:53 AM »
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  • There was an Israeli station that aired a blasphemous piece about Our Lord, and ... to our shame as Christians ... it was the Muslims who protested (to the point of near rioting) about it, and they merely consider Our Lord to be a prophet.

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #34 on: February 11, 2022, 07:34:54 AM »
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    We are not supposed to wish the death or harm of anyone.
    Yes and no.  Your statement has a twinge of protestantism.  Yes, I cannot wish "evil" upon someone else, for that is a sin of anger.  No, death is not an evil, because we all must/will die.  Death is only an evil in the minds of pagans because they love this life more than they should.  And protestants view suffering as "evil" because they are "already saved" so they falsely expect only "happy" things from God and this life.  Praying for someone's death, because it will be a spiritual benefit, is not a "harm" because death is unavoidable.  We are just praying for a change in the timeline.


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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #35 on: February 11, 2022, 07:43:13 AM »
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  • Yes and no.  Your statement has a twinge of protestantism.  Yes, I cannot wish "evil" upon someone else, for that is a sin of anger.  No, death is not an evil, because we all must/will die.  Death is only an evil in the minds of pagans because they love this life more than they should.  And protestants view suffering as "evil" because they are "already saved" so they falsely expect only "happy" things from God and this life.  Praying for someone's death, because it will be a spiritual benefit, is not a "harm" because death is unavoidable.  We are just praying for a change in the timeline.
    Well said. It is MERCIFUL AND JUST that a public blasphemer die. It is MERCIFUL because before they dig themselves into an even deeper pit in Hell, their time here is cut short. And it is JUST because the SECOND COMMANDMENT, states that we MUST NOT take the Lord's name in vain.

    One who holds the idea that death is worse than blasphemy can tell you just where one's soul lies, and it isn't with the glory of God.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #36 on: February 11, 2022, 08:20:34 AM »
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  • When you say "timeline", you're suggesting that time travel is possible, or being done. It gets into that alternate timelines, alternate parallel universes sci-fi nonsense.

    You know, the "Allies won WW2" timeline and then there's the "nαzιs won WW2" timeline.

    I know it's entered common speech, kind of like the expression "not in this universe". But strictly speaking, there is only ONE version of the universe, and only ONE "timeline" -- the one that happened. There's no alternative universe out there were I'm living a slightly different life. Nor is such a universe POSSIBLE or able to be created, but "going back in time" and making a different decision.

    P.S. Talk of "timelines" does to God and His Providence what cremation does to belief in the Resurrection of the Body on the Last Day.
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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #37 on: February 11, 2022, 09:56:31 AM »
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    When you say "timeline", you're suggesting that time travel is possible, or being done. It gets into that alternate timelines, alternate parallel universes sci-fi nonsense.

    P.S. Talk of "timelines" does to God and His Providence what cremation does to belief in the Resurrection of the Body on the Last Day.
    I see your point but that's not what I was saying.  The future, from a human understanding, is not set.  When we pray for something to happen, we don't know if this prayer will be answered or not (it's up to God's wisdom).  If no one prayed for +Francis to die sooner, then logically he would live longer than if we did pray.  So, in this sense, we are asking God to adjust the "timeline" of His original plan (i.e. from our understanding).  Just like when Joshua asked God to not let the sun set and the day was longer than normal.  The original "timeline" was a 24 hour day which God's power altered due to prayer.  But God knew from all eternity that Joshua would pray for this, so He ordered nature to comply.  

    Ultimately, since God knows all things, and since He has foreseen all prayers before the world was even created, He knew which prayers He would answer and which He would not, so there is only 1 timeline - that of His eternal, all-wise, all-loving Providence.  But since we humans don't know God's timeline, and since time is a temporal thing, speaking of "changing the timeline" is just my way of praying for God's will. 


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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #38 on: February 11, 2022, 10:20:35 AM »
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  • ^this is kind of how I think of it too. God has the general storyline in mind and written, but we need to interact with Him through prayer for the particulars to play out. Like if we look at the Scotist idea of the absolute Primacy of Christ, had Adam not sinned, the Incarnation would have still played out as it was ordained by God from eternity. Yet, the particulars would change due to the lack of sin in the world.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #39 on: February 11, 2022, 12:06:43 PM »
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  • Actually… https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07149b.htm


    I was taught it as being called divine mercy:
    the the Lord ends the life of someone obstinate in sin to help prevent them from reaching a deeper pit in hell.

    I was also taught that it is an act of charity to pray for divine mercy for obstinate sinners.

    this explains it pretty well:
    https://catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/On%20the%20Abuse%20of%20Divine%20Mercy.html

    Therefore the Lord waiteth, that he may have mercy on you." (Isa. xxx. 1, 8.) But when He sees that the time which he gave them to weep over their past iniquities is spent in multiplying their sins, He begins to inflict chastisement, and He cuts them off in the state of sin, that, by dying, they may cease to offend Him.

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #40 on: February 11, 2022, 07:41:33 PM »
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  • Probably it was more a case of the HIV booster finally overwhelming her system than a miracle, but that was a good thing to see. Hopefully it might push her to repent, including of the sin of not being one bit funny.


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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #41 on: February 11, 2022, 08:00:52 PM »
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  • Since you repeat your error, I must repeat the antidote.



    Ah Mark, truly priceless. A full-blown sedevacantist (Mark) is repeatedly choosing to quote a Novus Ordo website to suit his whims. That's comedy, Mark! 

    Can't you be consistent on anything? You pick and choose your "Pope" de jour, (depending on which flavour of Sede vacantist we are discussing), and now you are choosing to use a quote directly from a Vatican 11 website.

    I will give you credit--it's a very good website. :-) 

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #42 on: February 11, 2022, 08:06:27 PM »
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  • I was taught it as being called divine mercy:
    the the Lord ends the life of someone obstinate in sin to help prevent them from reaching a deeper pit in hell.

    I was also taught that it is an act of charity to pray for divine mercy for obstinate sinners.

    this explains it pretty well:
    https://catholicharboroffaithandmorals.com/On%20the%20Abuse%20of%20Divine%20Mercy.html

    Therefore the Lord waiteth, that he may have mercy on you." (Isa. xxx. 1, 8.) But when He sees that the time which he gave them to weep over their past iniquities is spent in multiplying their sins, He begins to inflict chastisement, and He cuts them off in the state of sin, that, by dying, they may cease to offend Him.
    Hey, hello, earth to Epiphany, "obstinate sinners" can be the the CI guy that has a porn addiction, or the CI guy that pleasures himself and does zip to stop his habit, and so on.

    So are you actually praying the way you are proclaiming? I doubt it.

    Rolling my eyes here...

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #43 on: February 11, 2022, 08:10:56 PM »
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  • Yes and no.  Your statement has a twinge of protestantism.  Yes, I cannot wish "evil" upon someone else, for that is a sin of anger.  No, death is not an evil, because we all must/will die.  Death is only an evil in the minds of pagans because they love this life more than they should.  And protestants view suffering as "evil" because they are "already saved" so they falsely expect only "happy" things from God and this life.  Praying for someone's death, because it will be a spiritual benefit, is not a "harm" because death is unavoidable.  We are just praying for a change in the timeline.
    Malarky. "Love your neighbour as yourself." It's the Second Greatest Commandment of all. It has absolutely nothing to do with Protestants.

    "...We are just praying for a change in the timeline." What a load of twat. There's only ONE "timeline" genius, and it's God's, not yours.

    Who taught you Catechism?

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    Re: Comedian Mocks Jesus and Collapses Immediately
    « Reply #44 on: February 11, 2022, 08:16:27 PM »
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  • I see your point but that's not what I was saying.  The future, from a human understanding, is not set.  When we pray for something to happen, we don't know if this prayer will be answered or not (it's up to God's wisdom).  If no one prayed for +Francis to die sooner, then logically he would live longer than if we did pray.  So, in this sense, we are asking God to adjust the "timeline" of His original plan (i.e. from our understanding).  Just like when Joshua asked God to not let the sun set and the day was longer than normal.  The original "timeline" was a 24 hour day which God's power altered due to prayer.  But God knew from all eternity that Joshua would pray for this, so He ordered nature to comply. 

    Ultimately, since God knows all things, and since He has foreseen all prayers before the world was even created, He knew which prayers He would answer and which He would not, so there is only 1 timeline - that of His eternal, all-wise, all-loving Providence.  But since we humans don't know God's timeline, and since time is a temporal thing, speaking of "changing the timeline" is just my way of praying for God's will.
    Oh, so it's okay for people to pray for you to die sooner, too? Or does your flavour of "logic" only apply to Pope Francis?

    And you either pray to do God's will, or you don't. There is no middle ground to choose from. Sorry to burst your bubble of contortion or whatever the heck it is. I'm still trying to figure it out.