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Re: PALISADES FIRE
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2025, 02:48:14 PM »
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  • I have a real good view of the fire. The wind has died down somewhat but I DO NOT SEE EVEN ONE FIRE FIGHTING AIRCRAFT IN THE AIR :confused:
    https://regina.ctvnews.ca/video/c3060756-drone-damaging-canadian-plane-sparks-investigation

    Well, Canada sent 2 water bombers but a tiny illegal drone put one of the planes out of commission. 8" hole in the wing. So, holey wing, unholy smoke. BTW no drone flying in restricted areas.!!..those are sane laws, but of course someone wants to get great videos , and get high view ratings on whatever platform. 
    I feel very concerned about the overall damage, deaths, displaced people. Where will they go?  " FAIR Insurance etc. , Never seen anything like it, except WWII docs. Dresden ,1945 Germany comes to mind...Still, God is in total control. I wonder why He is allowing this to torch California? San Francisco, pray for us+
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #31 on: January 10, 2025, 02:54:46 PM »
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  • Yesterday we received urgent notices via phone that we should evacuate immediately with tips on taking animals and their food, important papers etc. We have ash, but are far from the fires.

    Several hours later the phones again had that annoying loud sound of gov urgency. This time it said to ignore the previous evacuation notice. I wonder how many people were stressed out by this.

    Out of curiosity, I went to the website which was recommended. It was malfuntioning.

    Oh and by the way, we voted Oct. 7 and our votes have NOT BEEN COUNTED yet.
    We stay only because most of our children and grandchildren are here. We are 4th generation Californians, they are 6th and 7th generation. Sad.

    Please pray for friends who have had to leave their homes and don't know if their homes will be saved.
    :pray::pray::pray: for you, your family, your friends, and all that are involved.

    I left California 17 years ago and I do not miss the fires.  I was 4th generation, and my sister is still there raising her family.
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #32 on: January 10, 2025, 03:02:59 PM »
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  • If Gibson lost property, being a freemason, he saw it coming.

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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #33 on: January 10, 2025, 03:19:35 PM »
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  • 2) Most of the fires are located at a substantial distance from the ocean. Reservoirs are closer and have the necessary access and equipment to fill fire engines and aircraft. The ocean lacks these things.
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    Yeah, I doubt it's that easy to spray ocean water at a fire. Fire trucks are designed to bring hoses to the nearest fire hydrant, which is supposed to supply the water. I doubt fire trucks are designed to be parked next to a body of water and just suck the water out of it and spray it at the fire.

    But as far as why the hydrants can't supply the water necessary to put out the fire, that's an entirely different question and one that I'm sure a lot of people in that great burning Sodom want answered.

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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #34 on: January 10, 2025, 03:57:55 PM »
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  • :pray::pray::pray: for you, your family, your friends, and all that are involved.

    I left California 17 years ago and I do not miss the fires.  I was 4th generation, and my sister is still there raising her family.
    Thank you Gray.
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #35 on: January 10, 2025, 04:00:47 PM »
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  • Democrat Megadonor Couple With Monopoly On Calif. Water Supply Blamed For Exacerbating LA Fires
    by Kelen McBreen January 10th, 2025 10:43 AM

    Find out how a billionaire husband and wife gained control over much of the state's H2O.

    Democrat Megadonor Couple With Monopoly On  Calif. Water Supply Blamed For Exacerbating LA Fires Image Credit: DREW ANGERER / Contributor / Getty
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    Amid the deadly fires currently devastating Los Angeles, California, a widely circulated video reveals that a husband and wife known for their significant donations to the Democratic Party have been diverting hundreds of billions of gallons of water annually.
    The “More Perfect Union” presentation exposes Lynda and Stewart Resnick for essentially taking over the California water industry decades ago.

    According to the nonprofit newsroom, the Resnicks seized control of California’s public water supply via a series of secret meetings back in 1994.
    After Golden State taxpayers footed the bill for the Kern Water Bank, the couple eventually gained a 60% ownership of the water resource.
    The Resnicks also have a stake in several other major water banks throughout the state.
    Now, the power couple sells the state’s water back to the very citizens who have a right to the natural commodity.
    Of course, donating massive amounts of money to California Democrat politicians such as Gavin Newsom and Dianne Feinstein ensures their monopoly stays intact.
    In addition to funding leftist politicians, the Resnicks donate huge sums to the University of California system in exchange for collegiate departments releasing studies that suggest federal and state taxpayer dollars be used to fund water projects that further benefit the family’s H2O enterprise.
    Ana Kasparian, the liberal co-host and producer of The Young Turks, shared the “More Perfect Union” report on 𝕏 and lambasted Democrat officials in L.A. for draining water supplies.
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    “CA, and especially LA, is controlled by Democrats. THEY are responsible. No more passing the buck. Our Mayor, who was in Ghana as fires exploded in our city, cut the fire budget by $17 million. Endless amounts of money funneled to bullshit scammer homeless nonprofits. We’re the highest taxed yet we have encampments and squalor everywhere. Even worse, we don’t have enough firefighters to respond to the absolute disaster we’re experiencing right now. Rather than conserve the record rain we got last year, we just drained it into the ocean. We are a failing city run by a sick excuse for local government. You want to radicalize people against the modern Democratic Party? Send them to LA.”

    Yes Mr. Resnick is Jєωιѕн. Don't know about her.

    https://www.infowars.com/posts/democrat-megadonor-couple-with-monopoly-on-calif-water-supply-blamed-for-exacerbating-la-fires


    https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1877053423075377518?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1877165205588677042%7Ctwgr%5Ed8a5e6fb7076c5b1dd7b75bca54be7d72df8cdab%7Ctwcon%5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2Fposts%2Fdemocrat-megadonor-couple-with-monopoly-on-calif-water-supply-blamed-for-exacerbating-la-fires
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #36 on: January 10, 2025, 04:21:45 PM »
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  • Multiple reports of arson. In one case, the suspect was detained and then released. In another, he was not detained because he did not have an incindiary device (but he did have gasoline.)

    Scroll down for videos
    https://www.infowars.com/posts/epic-moment-locals-detained-arsonist-who-used-blowtorch-to-start-more-la-fires-caught-on-camera
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #37 on: January 10, 2025, 04:23:22 PM »
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  • We now have new fires in San Fernando Valley -- Hidden Hills--Woodland Hills :popcorn:
    Do you know if there are any fires near  W. Mulholland Highway, Agoura Hills?
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #38 on: January 11, 2025, 02:56:02 AM »
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  • Even if salt water is less than optimal (possibly because of the effect it has on the equipment?), common sense would tell me to go ahead and use it.  You can always buy new equipment.

    I'd like to see the environmentalists go to the people whose property is affected by the fires, and let them explain why it wasn't a good idea to use salt water.  I can't imagine that the most "woke" property owner would say, "yes, my house burned to the ground, but at least you didn't use salt water".
    They didn’t care too much about equipment, they gave needed fire equipment  to the WAR in Ukraine.   
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #39 on: January 11, 2025, 03:00:25 AM »
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  • They say there is movie called Chinatown based on true events. 
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #40 on: January 12, 2025, 12:51:12 PM »
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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #41 on: January 12, 2025, 07:06:50 PM »
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  • The $750,000-a-year LA water czar is responsible for a raft of failures that contributed to the devastating Palisades Fire, fire department insiders told DailyMail.com.
    On Mayor Karen Bass's orders, the city maxed out its budget to 'attract private-sector talent', hiring Department of Water and Power (LADWP) CEO Janisse Quiñones on a $750,000 salary in May – almost double that of her predecessor.
    Now, Quiñones is being blamed by LA Fire Department (LAFD) insiders for leaving a nearby reservoir disconnected and fire hydrants broken for months, DailyMail.com can reveal, leading to firefighters running out of water as they battled the devastating Palisades Fire this week.And, Daily Mail.com has learned, Quiñones past employer is also linked to fire scandals. She was previously a top executive at electricity company PG&E, which went bankrupt over liability for several massive wildfires in California.
    She served as senior vice president at Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) from 2021 to 2023.
    The utility company's power lines sparked the second-largest wildfire in California history, Dixie, in 2021. Its involvement in the 2018 Camp Fire cost PG&E a $13.5billion legal settlement.
    The firm's liability for allegedly causing fires was estimated at $30billion when it filed for bankruptcy in 2018. It exited bankruptcy in 2020.
    Quiñones joined PG&E in April 2021 as Senior Vice President of Gas Engineering, switched to Senior Vice President of Electric Operations in July 2022, and left the firm in December 2023.
    Janisse Quiñones, the newly appointed chief executive officer and chief engineer of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, bumbled through a press conference Wednesday (pictured) while addressing the lack of water available to extinguish the raging wildfires
    Janisse Quiñones

    Janisse Quiñones, the newly appointed chief executive officer and chief engineer of the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power, bumbled through a press conference Wednesday (left) while addressing the lack of water available to extinguish the raging wildfires
    Quiñones said water sources ran dry by 3am local time Wednesday and blamed it (Pictured: A firefighter removes a hose from a hydrant after it ran out of water)
    Quiñones said water sources ran dry by 3am local time Wednesday and blamed it on low pressure in the system and the water being used faster than it was being replenished (Pictured: A firefighter removes a hose from a hydrant after it ran out of water)



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    Sources told DailyMail.com that since her hiring at LADWP, Quiñones oversaw the shutdown and emptying of a reservoir in the Pacific Palisades during brushfire season.
    The shutdown meant firefighters battling the current Palisades Fire ran out of water faster, experts say.
    The Santa Ynez Reservoir is designed to hold 117 million gallons of drinking water. But it was taken offline in recent months to repair a tear in its cover that exposed the water and potentially impacted its drinkability.
    The shutdown was first publicly reported by the LA Times on Friday morning.
    Former DWP general manager Martin Adams told the paper that having the Santa Ynez reservoir would have helped fight the Palisades Fire that wiped out most of the Pacific Palisades neighborhood this week.
    'Would Santa Ynez have helped? Yes, to some extent. Would it have saved the day? I don't think so,' Adams said.
    He said the crucial reservoir had been offline 'for a while' before the fires, but didn't know the precise date.
    But a source in the LA Fire Department (LAFD) told DailyMail.com that DWP officials told them 'had it not been closed they probably would have been ok and had enough water for the fire.'


    Insiders, however, tell DailyMail.com the DWP chief had been aware of the broken hydrants around the city for months
    Insiders, however, tell DailyMail.com the DWP chief had been aware of the broken hydrants around the city for months
    A well-connected former LAFD senior officer told DailyMail.com that lack of water was already a 'common' problem, exacerbated by DWP failing to fix cutoff fire hydrants
    A well-connected former LAFD senior officer told DailyMail.com that lack of water was already a 'common' problem, exacerbated by DWP failing to fix cutoff fire hydrants
    Sources told DailyMail.com that since her hiring at LADWP, Quiñones oversaw the shutdown and emptying of the Santa Ynez Reservoir in the Pacific Palisades during brushfire season. The water source was empty when the inferno broke out this week
    Sources told DailyMail.com that since her hiring at LADWP, Quiñones oversaw the shutdown and emptying of the Santa Ynez Reservoir in the Pacific Palisades during brushfire season. The water source was empty when the inferno broke out this week 
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    At a press conference this week, Quiñones said firefighters ran out of water in the Palisades due to low pressure in the system, because they were using water faster than it was being replenished.
    A well-connected former LAFD senior officer told DailyMail.com that lack of water was already a 'common' problem, exacerbated by DWP failing to fix cutoff fire hydrants.
    'Yearly, the fire department goes out and checks every hydrant,' he said.
    'For my entire career we would do this once a year then send in a report to our Hydrant Unit with all the problems we encountered. Year after year the same hydrants that had problems were not fixed.
    'One example that comes to mind were the hydrants by Palisades High School on Temescal Canyon. They were dry many times we checked them. DWP knew they had problems and it would take months to fix them.
    'It's a City-wide known problem with DWP.
    'Last year the yearly hydrant checks were given back to DWP because the firefighters literally are too busy on calls. 
    'I would be willing to bet DWP didn't do this. I would love to see if they have the docuмents.'
    The city maxed out its budget to 'attract private-sector talent', hiring Department of Water and Power (LADWP) CEO Janisse Quiñones on a $750,000 salary in May
    The city maxed out its budget to 'attract private-sector talent', hiring Department of Water and Power (LADWP) CEO Janisse Quiñones on a $750,000 salary in May
    Many have complained about LA Mayor Karen Bass being AWOL in Africa, to fire hydrants running out of water and electricity to power cables being left on to fuel the flames. (Pictured: Bass and Gavin Newsom touring the Palisades Wednesday)
    Many have complained about LA Mayor Karen Bass being AWOL in Africa, to fire hydrants running out of water and electricity to power cables being left on to fuel the flames. (Pictured: Bass and Gavin Newsom touring the Palisades Wednesday) 
    Flames from the Palisades Fire burn through a residential building on Sunset Boulevard amid a powerful windstorm on January 9, in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles
    Flames from the Palisades Fire burn through a residential building on Sunset Boulevard amid a powerful windstorm on January 9, in the Pacific Palisades neighborhood of Los Angeles

    LADWP did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
    A current senior LAFD official also told DailyMail.com that some hydrants in the Palisades were not working when desperate firefighters tried to use them this week, and that they had not been fixed because of budget cuts by LA Mayor Karen Bass.
    DailyMail.com exclusively obtained a memo to LAFD 'top brass' sent on Monday January 6, the day before the Palisades Fire began, revealing demands from Bass to cut the department's budget by a further $49million, on top of $17.6million of cuts already voted on by the city council.
    The Los Angeles Daily News previously reported that the city's overall spending on its fire department increased by $53million in the fiscal year 2024-25 which runs to this July, but that $7 million of their budget was put in a separate fund for personnel while pay negotiations were still being hashed out, leading to the $17.6million accounting shortfall.
    Department veterans told DailyMail.com that the net effect of the budget machinations has meant less firefighters on the ground for years.
    The under-fire LADWP was only just recovering from a series of major scandals, including in 2022 when its former General Manager David Wright was sentenced to six years in federal prison for bribery.
    Wright took bribes from lawyer Paul Paradis to help secure a $30million, three-year, no-bid LADWP contract for the lawyer's company, according to federal prosecutors.
    Compounding the corruption, Paradis was also taking nearly $2.2million in illegal kickbacks from a complex scheme where he simultaneously represented LADWP and residents suing the department over a billing debacle.
    DWP implemented a new billing system in 2013 that inaccurately inflated utility bills, sparking class-action lawsuits. 
    Paradis represented the city as Special Counsel, but was simultaneously representing claimants in the billing debacle, and colluded to get a favorable payout for himself and clients. He was sentenced to three years in prison in 2023.


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    Re: PALISADES FIRE
    « Reply #43 on: January 14, 2025, 01:49:44 PM »
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