Author Topic: What Can We Expect of New Pope Francis? (Read 2070 times)

MyrnaM · « **Reply #5 on:** March 17, 2013, 09:18:59 AM »

...also if he converted he would be murdered.

What needs to happen in my humble opinion is a chastisement, something that will cause all those within the Vatican controlling things, to realize that the Roman Catholic Church is of God. There is a God, only one God, and it is His Holy Will that all should give up their Modernism, attachment to the world, liberalism and follow Christ.

Only then will see the Reign of Mary! That is what we must pray for!

Gold Peak · « **Reply #6 on:** March 17, 2013, 10:13:32 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

It seems to me that everyone here needs to hear this:

The erstwhile Fr. Brogoglio had studied for some 8 or more years to become
a Jesuit, after which time, "he rose very quickly through the ranks," making
each step of the way in short order - from priest to bishop to archbishop to
cardinal, and there is no way he could have done so in the Jesuits if he had
been a traditionalist, because only the liberals move up in the Jesuits and
only the ultra-liberals move up quickly. We get the prelates we deserve.

Take an example of the other extreme, a very traditional Catholic Jesuit like
Fr. Frederick Schell. He studied for many years as well, for the required
course of time, but there is absolutely no way he would ever have made a
promotion to any higher rank of ordination or supervision. On the contrary,
when he told his bishop in his no-nonsense Texas style, that he could not in
good conscience distribute communion-in-the-hand, his bishop expelled him
from the diocese. He was cast adrift at sea, basically. It was only due to
the persistent support of scattered Catholic Faithful who requested of him to
provide the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass that he was able to survive in
this modern world of diabolical disorientation. And he would have made a
most excellent pope. But apparently the world, and many of us in it, did not
deserve him.

What would make a lifetime liberal like Pope Francis convert and become
traditional? It would seem that only a prodigious miracle of grace could do
that. But isn't that exactly what Our Lady promised that she would do for
the entire nation of Russia? If she can do it for Russia, why could she not do
it for one little man in the Vatican? Would it be because we don't deserve it?

Very well expressed, as always Neil.

Question: Where is the good Father Schell now? What a hero... A quiet, dry martyr.

Gold Peak · « **Reply #7 on:** March 17, 2013, 10:16:55 AM »

I pray that the wind of the Holy Spirit sweep through the Vatican.

bvmknight · « **Reply #8 on:** March 17, 2013, 04:58:24 PM »

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Take an example of the other extreme, a very traditional Catholic Jesuit like
Fr. Frederick Schell. He studied for many years as well, for the required
course of time, but there is absolutely no way he would ever have made a
promotion to any higher rank of ordination or supervision. On the contrary,
when he told his bishop in his no-nonsense Texas style, that he could not in
good conscience distribute communion-in-the-hand, his bishop expelled him
from the diocese. He was cast adrift at sea, basically. It was only due to
the persistent support of scattered Catholic Faithful who requested of him to
provide the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass that he was able to survive in
this modern world of diabolical disorientation. And he would have made a
most excellent pope. But apparently the world, and many of us in it, did not
deserve him.

God bless Father Schell! My first Latin Mass and a great help in my conversion. May he rest in peace!

Emitte Lucem Tuam · « **Reply #9 on:** March 17, 2013, 06:44:45 PM »

I, as a Catholic Christian, will take the attitude and observance of my 19th and early 20th century ancestors: I will pray for the Pope (as I will for all clergy and laity) but I will follow my parish priest when it comes to following the Catholic Faith and Morals. My parish priest will be taught and commanded by his Bishop to preach Catholic faith and morals. The papacy, from the early 20th century and back, was distant and foreign and very few common people knew who the pope was personally. Many, if not most, didn't even know his original name or where he was from before being elected. If this 21st century pope Francis wants to schmoose with the Jews, have rock and roll "masses" and believe that "all" are saved - this really doesn't concern my own salvation as a Catholic Christian. I will continue to pray (and pray for him as I do for all those who believe in doctrines which are outside the Catholic Faith) at my independent chapel in which the priests preach the Holy Catholic Faith commanded by their bishops and administer the ageless Holy Sacraments. That's all I worry about. Sure the papacy matters but that doesn't mean that it's current wicked cardinals and bishops (including the pope) and their wicked doctrines will get in the way of my own salvation. Kyrie Eleison!