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What Can We Expect of New Pope Francis?
« on: March 15, 2013, 10:57:56 PM »
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  • What Can We Expect of New Pope Francis?  
     
    By Dr. Eladio Jose Armesto
    Treasurer, Una Voce Miami

    Habemus Papam! We have a Pope! On Tuesday, March 13th, the Church’s College of Cardinals elected Pope, Jorge Mario Cardinal Bergoglio of Argentina. What can the universal Church expect of its new Pope? What kind of shepherd was he to the Catholic faithful of Buenos Aires?
     
    In Saint Matthew’s gospel, 7:15-20, Our Lord Jesus Christ teaches us how to discern the good from the bad: “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in the clothing of sheep, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. By their fruits you shall know them. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit, and the evil tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can an evil tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be cut down, and shall be cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you shall know them.”

    DUBIOUS FRUITS?

    So then, what are the fruits of Cardinal Bergoglio’s work in Argentina? As cardinal, Pope Francis took doctrinally correct positions on so-called “homosexual” marriage, the crime of abortion, and the protection of abandoned and orphaned children from falling into the hands of homosexuals via adoption. For this we are truly grateful.
     
    Sadly, however, under his watch, Catholic Mass attendance plummeted, while Catholic desertions to other religions and sects skyrocketed. Priestly and religious vocations took a nose dive, while demoralization of the clergy proliferated. Evangelization of argentine society was practically nonexistent, while public immorality raged unabated. The Social Kingship of Christ was ignored; while liberal Democracy was extolled as the highest political good. The centuries-old Traditional Latin Mass, a liturgical treasure of the Church, was suppressed; while public liturgical acts were invariably reduced to profane, irreverent song and dance fests.
     
    Cardinal Bergoglio cultivated an image of a humble, simple churchman that rode the bus, cooked his own food, and lived in a modest apartment with another priest. Yet he had no qualms to openly impose his authority to undermine the courageous work of Catholics seeking to restore the rights of Christ the King or to scuttle the labor of love of Catholics faithful to the Traditional Latin Mass and sacramental rites. Can humility be reconciled with contempt and indifference towards the rights of Christ and Tradition? How?

    DUBIOUS HUMILITY?
     
    Thus, it is only fair and just to ask: has Cardinal Bergoglio’s strident humility been more the humiliation of the Church, than of himself? In other words, has his apparent humility brought about the exaltation of the Church at the expense of his public image, or has it brought about the exaltation of his public image at the expense of the Church? The answer, undoubtedly, is troubling, disconcerting, scary, even.
     
    And while it is only natural that Catholics give our new Pope the benefit of the doubt; that we give him a chance to prove himself worthy of the Chair of Saint Peter, the truth is that Cardinal Bergoglio's track record leaves much to be desired. He leaves Argentina in shambles morally, spiritually, and religiously. Yes, it is always proper to hope and pray for the best, but let us also not forget that it is always prudent to prepare for the worst.
     
    Yet, regardless of the direction Pope Francis takes the Church, our souls are not his to do with as he pleases. Ultimately, on Judgment Day we must all answer to God for our thoughts and deeds. In godly anticipation of that transcendent moment, let us join Saint Peter Canisius in affirming: “More than the Lord Pope, we wish to please the Pope’s Lord.”
     
    Ever mindful of the need for prayer and vigilance in the days ahead, we humbly ask God help Pope Francis protect and guide the Church!
     
     
    *** Dr. Eladio Jose Armesto is Treasurer of Una Voce Miami, the Miami chapter of Una Voce America, the worldwide Catholic organization promoting love for the Traditional Latin Mass, traditional sacramental rights, and Gregorian chant; Past Grand Knight of Knights of Columbus Council 5110, Miami, Florida, Publisher of El Nuevo PATRIA newspaper, and Treasurer of the US Hispanic Publishers Federation. He can be reached at 786/286-8787 or patrianews@aol.com.


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    What Can We Expect of New Pope Francis?
    « Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 12:23:14 AM »
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    « Reply #2 on: March 17, 2013, 05:37:42 AM »
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  • It seems to me that everyone here needs to hear this:  

    The erstwhile Fr. Brogoglio had studied for some 8 or more years to become
    a Jesuit, after which time, "he rose very quickly through the ranks," making
    each step of the way in short order - from priest to bishop to archbishop to
    cardinal, and there is no way he could have done so in the Jesuits if he had
    been a traditionalist, because only the liberals move up in the Jesuits and
    only the ultra-liberals move up quickly.  We get the prelates we deserve.

    Take an example of the other extreme, a very traditional Catholic Jesuit like
    Fr. Frederick Schell.  He studied for many years as well, for the required
    course of time, but there is absolutely no way he would ever have made a
    promotion to any higher rank of ordination or supervision.  On the contrary,
    when he told his bishop in his no-nonsense Texas style, that he could not in
    good conscience distribute communion-in-the-hand, his bishop expelled him
    from the diocese.  He was cast adrift at sea, basically.  It was only due to
    the persistent support of scattered Catholic Faithful who requested of him to
    provide the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass that he was able to survive in
    this modern world of diabolical disorientation.  And he would have made a
    most excellent pope.  But apparently the world, and many of us in it, did not
    deserve him.  

    What would make a lifetime liberal like Pope Francis convert and become
    traditional?  It would seem that only a prodigious miracle of grace could do
    that.  But isn't that exactly what Our Lady promised that she would do for
    the entire nation of Russia?  If she can do it for Russia, why could she not do
    it for one little man in the Vatican?  Would it be because we don't deserve it?


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    « Reply #3 on: March 17, 2013, 08:49:52 AM »
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  • She can't convert him because he has a free will.  Although she can give him all the extra graces he needs to convert, it is still his choice, which makes me wonder what and why did he become so liberal in the first place.  Obviously he was raised Catholic many, many years ago.  What changed him?


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    « Reply #4 on: March 17, 2013, 09:16:50 AM »
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  • If I had to guess what will happen in his pontificate my guess is that he will come out with some statement or teaching which rides roughshod over the first commandment.  Not just Assisi IV, though I am pretty sure we will get that too, but a statement teaching or encyclical that strong suggests or explicitly teaches, in as much as any modernist can say anything without ambiguity, that all religions are paths to salvation.

    I.e. more pluralistic and syncretist than even JP2.


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    « Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 09:18:59 AM »
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  • ...also if he converted he would be murdered.  

    What needs to happen in my humble opinion is a chastisement, something that will cause all those within the Vatican controlling things, to realize that the Roman Catholic Church is of God.  There is a God, only one God, and it is His Holy Will that all should give up their Modernism, attachment to the world, liberalism and follow Christ.

    Only then will see the Reign of Mary!  That is what we must pray for!

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    « Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 10:13:32 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat


    It seems to me that everyone here needs to hear this:  

    The erstwhile Fr. Brogoglio had studied for some 8 or more years to become
    a Jesuit, after which time, "he rose very quickly through the ranks," making
    each step of the way in short order - from priest to bishop to archbishop to
    cardinal, and there is no way he could have done so in the Jesuits if he had
    been a traditionalist, because only the liberals move up in the Jesuits and
    only the ultra-liberals move up quickly.  We get the prelates we deserve.

    Take an example of the other extreme, a very traditional Catholic Jesuit like
    Fr. Frederick Schell.  He studied for many years as well, for the required
    course of time, but there is absolutely no way he would ever have made a
    promotion to any higher rank of ordination or supervision.  On the contrary,
    when he told his bishop in his no-nonsense Texas style, that he could not in
    good conscience distribute communion-in-the-hand, his bishop expelled him
    from the diocese.  He was cast adrift at sea, basically.  It was only due to
    the persistent support of scattered Catholic Faithful who requested of him to
    provide the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass that he was able to survive in
    this modern world of diabolical disorientation.  And he would have made a
    most excellent pope.  But apparently the world, and many of us in it, did not
    deserve him.  

    What would make a lifetime liberal like Pope Francis convert and become
    traditional?  It would seem that only a prodigious miracle of grace could do
    that.  But isn't that exactly what Our Lady promised that she would do for
    the entire nation of Russia?  If she can do it for Russia, why could she not do
    it for one little man in the Vatican?  Would it be because we don't deserve it?




    Very well expressed, as always Neil.  

    Question: Where is the good Father Schell now?  What a hero... A quiet, dry martyr.

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    « Reply #7 on: March 17, 2013, 10:16:55 AM »
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  • I pray that the wind of the Holy Spirit sweep through the Vatican.


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    « Reply #8 on: March 17, 2013, 04:58:24 PM »
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    Take an example of the other extreme, a very traditional Catholic Jesuit like
    Fr. Frederick Schell.  He studied for many years as well, for the required
    course of time, but there is absolutely no way he would ever have made a
    promotion to any higher rank of ordination or supervision.  On the contrary,
    when he told his bishop in his no-nonsense Texas style, that he could not in
    good conscience distribute communion-in-the-hand, his bishop expelled him
    from the diocese.  He was cast adrift at sea, basically.  It was only due to
    the persistent support of scattered Catholic Faithful who requested of him to
    provide the Canonized Traditional Latin Mass that he was able to survive in
    this modern world of diabolical disorientation.  And he would have made a
    most excellent pope.  But apparently the world, and many of us in it, did not
    deserve him.  


    God bless Father Schell!  My first Latin Mass and a great help in my conversion.  May he rest in peace!

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    « Reply #9 on: March 17, 2013, 06:44:45 PM »
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  • I, as a Catholic Christian, will take the attitude and observance of my 19th and early 20th century ancestors:  I will pray for the Pope (as I will for all clergy and laity) but I will follow my parish priest when it comes to following the Catholic Faith and Morals.  My parish priest will be taught and commanded by his Bishop to preach Catholic faith and morals.  The papacy, from the early 20th century and back, was distant and foreign and very few common people knew who the pope was personally.  Many, if not most, didn't even know his original name or where he was from before being elected.  If this 21st century pope Francis wants to schmoose with the Jews, have rock and roll "masses" and believe that "all" are saved - this really doesn't concern my own salvation as a Catholic Christian.  I will continue to pray (and pray for him as I do for all those who believe in doctrines which are outside the Catholic Faith) at my independent chapel in which the priests preach the Holy Catholic Faith commanded by their bishops and administer the ageless Holy Sacraments. That's all I worry about.  Sure the papacy matters but that doesn't mean that it's current wicked cardinals and bishops (including the pope) and their wicked doctrines will get in the way of my own salvation.  Kyrie Eleison!


     

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