Author Topic: Thanksgiving: Abstinence Dispensation (Read 5486 times)

2Vermont · « **on:** November 23, 2014, 10:25:15 AM »

I don't remember on which forum I discussed July 4th (it was on a Friday this year), but I thought I would share what I heard today. During his homily, Bishop Dolan mentioned that the abstinence from meat has been traditionally dispensed for the Friday after Thanksgiving.

I was glad to hear this because I was all set to abstain. In my family, we celebrate Thanksgiving on Friday so certain members of the family can share Thanksgiving Day with their in-laws, girlfriends, etc.

BTNYC · « **Reply #1 on:** November 23, 2014, 01:54:32 PM »

The question of the current viability of dispensations in force before the Crisis is a thorny one for Sedevacntists - I know because I've heard much debate among them about it. Since I am not an SV I will not presume to weigh in on that particular facet.

But as for myself, I would not dispense with the Friday abstinence for any secular holiday. And my advice for those celebrating Thanksgiving on Thursday would be to enjoy their repast on Thursday, and wrap the leftovers up to be enjoyed again on Saturday. I would supplement this advice with a friendly reminder that access to high quality refrigeration is now all but ubiquitous - much more so than it was when these dispensations were first granted.

2Vermont · « **Reply #2 on:** November 23, 2014, 02:05:00 PM »

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The question of the current viability of dispensations in force before the Crisis is a thorny one for Sedevacntists - I know because I've heard much debate among them about it. Since I am not an SV I will not presume to weigh in on that particular facet.

But as for myself, I would not dispense with the Friday abstinence for any secular holiday. And my advice for those celebrating Thanksgiving on Thursday would be to enjoy their repast on Thursday, and wrap the leftovers up to be enjoyed again on Saturday. I would supplement this advice with a friendly reminder that access to high quality refrigeration is now all but ubiquitous - much more so than it was when these dispensations were first granted.

But Bishop Dolan is a sedevacantist, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the first paragraph.

BTNYC · « **Reply #3 on:** November 23, 2014, 02:20:37 PM »

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The question of the current viability of dispensations in force before the Crisis is a thorny one for Sedevacntists - I know because I've heard much debate among them about it. Since I am not an SV I will not presume to weigh in on that particular facet.

But as for myself, I would not dispense with the Friday abstinence for any secular holiday. And my advice for those celebrating Thanksgiving on Thursday would be to enjoy their repast on Thursday, and wrap the leftovers up to be enjoyed again on Saturday. I would supplement this advice with a friendly reminder that access to high quality refrigeration is now all but ubiquitous - much more so than it was when these dispensations were first granted.

But Bishop Dolan is a sedevacantist, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the first paragraph.

I'm saying that not all Sedevacantists agree with him that a dispensation issued from before the Vacancy remains in force today (a perusal of the July 4 thread to which you referred will prove that).

But, not being SV myself, I will not weigh in on that debate.

2Vermont · « **Reply #4 on:** November 23, 2014, 02:33:02 PM »

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Quote from: BTNYC
The question of the current viability of dispensations in force before the Crisis is a thorny one for Sedevacntists - I know because I've heard much debate among them about it. Since I am not an SV I will not presume to weigh in on that particular facet.

But as for myself, I would not dispense with the Friday abstinence for any secular holiday. And my advice for those celebrating Thanksgiving on Thursday would be to enjoy their repast on Thursday, and wrap the leftovers up to be enjoyed again on Saturday. I would supplement this advice with a friendly reminder that access to high quality refrigeration is now all but ubiquitous - much more so than it was when these dispensations were first granted.

But Bishop Dolan is a sedevacantist, so I'm not sure what you're trying to say in the first paragraph.

I'm saying that not all Sedevacantists agree with him that a dispensation issued from before the Vacancy remains in force today (a perusal of the July 4 thread to which you referred will prove that).

But, not being SV myself, I will not weigh in on that debate.

Gotcha. And I guess there was such a July 4 thread here. I couldn't remember where I had discussed it.