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Telesphorus · « **Reply #435 on:** October 24, 2012, 05:17:13 PM »

This thread is very sparse on the alleged details PW is accused of making up about the CMRI chapel:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=19621&min=0&num=5

She might well have intended to visit the CMRI priest, told people like catherineofsiena she would, but was too timid.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #436 on:** October 24, 2012, 05:22:19 PM »

People need to understand trad chapels are full of gossipy paranoids who go out of their way to torment others, and one of their main weapons is accusations of mental illness. Sometimes it is just misguided, but in reality many people in these chapels subconsciously want things to be that way. It allows them to control their environment. People who feel isolated from the larger society are extremely jealous of their social position in the little pond.

Matthew · « **Reply #437 on:** October 24, 2012, 05:46:11 PM »

Quote from: Tiffany

Elizabeth I had her on ignore while the priest issue was being brought up, this was only one example of her deception. I brought it up now because it was applied to the situation of her supposedly not getting support. I saw deception in what she related as far as time and the stories that went with them. Secondly the views she states do not seem to be her own, they are very extreme, and other statements she makes do not support someone with those views. She devalues other women too.
Even after being called out and back peddling, she still attacks. IMO She is a predator appearing to be someone she is not and she is highly manipulative in various ways. When the threads don't go according to her narrative of her needing a husband or when her inconsistencies are called out, she attacks.

Ok, enough!

We're well aware you're not in the PW fan club. I don't see why this whole thing had to get stirred up again just because I banned Marcelino.

I still think you're going to have a lot to answer for, and you need to enter into yourself -- offline, in old-fashioned meditation -- about envy, jealousy, etc.

If you're indeed NOT envious, etc. it will be a surprise and a coincidence, because you're certainly acting like you are. You're acting like someone who DOES have envy -- sadness at the good of another. You have a less-than-ideal situation yourself, and you can't stand to watch a nice young lady perhaps end up with a husband, married in the Church, with a complete family life and probably more children.

Does that thought make you sad? I believe it does.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #438 on:** October 24, 2012, 06:47:22 PM »

Quote from: Cognorati001

I empathize with you fully.

...

I know that I will never set foot in a Catholic Church again because I cannot reconcile the incredible cruelty and yes, EVIL, of people who claim to hold The Truth to a God that is all Knowing, all Good, all Powerful... I've never encountered worse people and I don't believe I ever shall. I don't have the strength to claim that traditionalists are mostly "good" people -- they are not.

I am at peace when I stay away from them.

I'm so sorry that you feel that way. I am not evil.

Tiffany · « **Reply #439 on:** October 24, 2012, 07:08:24 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Tiffany
Elizabeth I had her on ignore while the priest issue was being brought up, this was only one example of her deception. I brought it up now because it was applied to the situation of her supposedly not getting support. I saw deception in what she related as far as time and the stories that went with them. Secondly the views she states do not seem to be her own, they are very extreme, and other statements she makes do not support someone with those views. She devalues other women too.
Even after being called out and back peddling, she still attacks. IMO She is a predator appearing to be someone she is not and she is highly manipulative in various ways. When the threads don't go according to her narrative of her needing a husband or when her inconsistencies are called out, she attacks.

Ok, enough!

We're well aware you're not in the PW fan club. I don't see why this whole thing had to get stirred up again just because I banned Marcelino.

I still think you're going to have a lot to answer for, and you need to enter into yourself -- offline, in old-fashioned meditation -- about envy, jealousy, etc.

If you're indeed NOT envious, etc. it will be a surprise and a coincidence, because you're certainly acting like you are. You're acting like someone who DOES have envy -- sadness at the good of another. You have a less-than-ideal situation yourself, and you can't stand to watch a nice young lady perhaps end up with a husband, married in the Church, with a complete family life and probably more children.

Does that thought make you sad? I believe it does.

Matthew, I was responding to Elizabeth's comment about the priest story checker as a stalker. My point was I saw deception before even knowing about the priest story.

The part about me being sad and envious, is silly. I respect that this is your forum, but I don't appreciate you telling me how I feel or what I can't stand.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #440 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:56:31 AM »

Quote from: Matthew

Quote from: Tiffany
M was criticized for misusing the quote system, when PW did the same thing.
I do sign my posts in the anon forum, but when you quote from there, it shows up as guest. M was called out for allegedly manipulating quotes, but not PW? I did not state anything there I have not stated before, it doesn't matter, but PW did the same thing pages before him.

You're being ridiculous.

Filling in the name for an anonymous quote -- especially when that name was provided in the post itself -- is NOT the same as falsifying the quote itself!

I didn't ban Marcelino for "touching" the quotes, I banned him for maliciously distorting and changing the words of people's quotes -- putting words in people's mouths.

There is no rule against "summarizing" in a quote, taking out parts, adding bold or italics, or other incidental edits. The quotes are not some kind of sacred cow that can't be touched.

In short -- "Get real".

Marcelino actually put words in peoples' mouths. PW never did this.

Quit trying to defend the indefensible.

Exactly, Matthew.

That is how it really is.

Matthew, I really support the way you have defended PenitentWoman, who is a weak member of CathInfo.

Tiffany has been very dishonest.
Marcelino did not “allegedly” manipulate quotes. He openly falsified quotes by me, PW, Spiritus, and guitarplucker.
Matthew has banned Marcelino for lying and other faults.

So Tiffany has been blatantly dishonest by pretending this is merely “allegedly manipulating quotes”
Tiffany has falsely accused PW of misusing the quote system: “misusing the quote system, when PW did the same thing”
That is a wicked lie on the part of Tiffany. Tiffany has been very dishonest here.
Read PW’s posts. PW has not done this. It is simply untrue.
PW put Tiffany’s name before the post she quoted, to show that it was Tiffany’s post.
That is perfectly honest and acceptable behaviour.
Whereas Tiffany’s behaviour is neither honest nor acceptable.
Tiffany’s posts against PW are full of insults and untrue accusations.

Tiffany has been very dishonest about this.

I asked Tiffany to condemn Marcelino’s dishonesty.
Instead, Tiffany defended Marcelino, and then Tiffany also lied about PenitentWoman.

Wallflower has also lied about PW in this thread.
Wallflower has been banned from CathInfo before, because of her vile conduct towards Tele.

Wallflower delights in ruining people’s good names with lies.

Tiffany and wallflower have both lied about PenitentWoman.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #441 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:57:27 AM »

One could reasonably say about PenitentWoman, is that after she was treated disgustingly here by sadistic Feminists, she concealed the fact that she had gone to a novus ordo priest instead of to a CMRI priest.
Regrettable, but not unforgivable by any means.

As Mater said:

Quote from: MaterDominici

...Everyone here was telling her to consult a priest.

And

Quote from: MaterDominici

I wanted to get the story summary up before we got a load of "spins", but I agree with you. Her behavior was not appropriate, but was nonetheless humanly understandable -- especially from someone new who was overwhelmed by the whole situation. It was a mistake; I don't believe it was anything more than that.

Exactly, Mater.

God Bless you, Mater, for putting it how it is.

PenitentWoman came here for traditional Catholicism.
But Feminist so-called Catholic women cruelly tormented PW.

PenitentWoman was horrifically bullied by Feminists until the poor girl went back to the novus ordo.

Then PW wanted to get some privacy, and tried to hide the fact she had not gone to the CMRI less than a week later.
So instead of visiting the CMRI, she went back to the novus ordo.

PW was driven away from tradition by the hostility of these bullies here.
Then she tried to hide the fact that she had visited the novus ordo priest instead.
Poor PW was persecuted by so-called traditional Catholics, which drove her back to the novus ordo.
Then her persecutors blamed her for trying to hide it !!!!!

PW has been far more open about her life than almost anyone on CathInfo.
She has told us a lot about herself, and about her housework, canning, baby-sitting, etc. She did not tell us about visiting the Novus Ordo man, and made out that he was CMRI.
That was after all these people started to persecute her, about things that she had been truthful about.

After being cruelly tormented herer, little PW wanted to keep some things private.
So she hid about not visiting the CMRI priest.

That would not have happened without the bullying by these Feminists.
It is very possible that if these cruel Feminists were pressured about their private lives, they would lie their heads off.
PW has the same right to privacy that they have.
But they have violated her right to privacy out of malice.
I have never seen anyone put under this kind of pressure to tell private details about their personal life before.
I have never seen anything like this on CathInfo before.
No wonder she became furtive and wanted to hide things.
Who can blame her for that?
And who can blame her for not wanting to disclose the name of the priest that she goes to for advice, to aggressive strangers on the internet?
Especially to people who obviously wish her harm.

She has been tormented here in a way that is inexcusable.

She only made out that that man was not Novus Ordo, and was the other one after people had tormented and persecuted her.
And she was obviously frightened that she would also be picked on over returning to the Novus Ordo.
So she hid the truth. That would not have happened without the bullying she received here.
If these cruel Feminists had left her alone, none of that would have happened.
She was driven away from traditional Catholicism by what she went through at the hands of these bullying Feminists.
She has a right to privacy. That right has been wickedly violated.

PW is brave young Catholic girl.

PW did not tell us about visiting the Novus Ordo man, and made out that he was CMRI.
That was after all these people started to persecute her, about things that she had been truthful about.
Then she wanted to keep some things private.
So she hid the truth.
That would not have happened without the bullying by these Feminists.

So these Feminist bullies are to blame for PW trying to hide about going to that Novus Ordo man instead of to the CMRI.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #442 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:58:22 AM »

Matthew has had to repeatedly rebuke Tiffany about Tiffany's bullying of PenitentWoman:

Quote from: Matthew

...
Ok, enough!

We're well aware you're not in the PW fan club. I don't see why this whole thing had to get stirred up again just because I banned Marcelino.

I still think you're going to have a lot to answer for, and you need to enter into yourself -- offline, in old-fashioned meditation -- about envy, jealousy, etc.

If you're indeed NOT envious, etc. it will be a surprise and a coincidence, because you're certainly acting like you are. You're acting like someone who DOES have envy -- sadness at the good of another. You have a less-than-ideal situation yourself, and you can't stand to watch a nice young lady perhaps end up with a husband, married in the Church, with a complete family life and probably more children.

Does that thought make you sad? I believe it does.

Dear Matthew,

Thank you for stating the real reasons for Tiffany’s actions.

PenitentWoman had six real bullies here.

Marcelino was banned, two others have left, Thorn has stopped.

Only Tiffany and wallflower have still continued.

Many Forum moderators would have taken the easy option and just let things slide.

But, instead, you stuck up for the innocent party - PenitentWoman.

I said that you are a good moderator.

You are also a good man.

God Bless you, Matthew.

Yours, Sede Catholic.

Sede Catholic · « **Reply #443 on:** October 28, 2012, 08:00:48 AM »

It is a wicked shame that Feminists cruelly bullied and persecuted PenitentWoman, who is a good Catholic girl.

I hope that, somehow, goodness prevails here.

Catholic Samurai · « **Reply #444 on:** October 28, 2012, 09:07:53 AM »

Drop it already!

Cheryl · « **Reply #445 on:** October 28, 2012, 09:12:03 AM »

In the last four posts on this thread I have read several calumnies. (not counting the post by CS who slid one in while I was proofing reading.) Since when does spreading untruths and attempting to ruin reputations fly on CI?

PenitentWoman · « **Reply #446 on:** October 28, 2012, 10:44:35 AM »

I really do not want to see anyone else banned over my exit post. Yes, it hurts horribly to be called names, but God knows the truth, and I will have accept that as enough. Anger is terribly damaging to a person's soul.

God Bless.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #447 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:20:53 PM »

Quote from: PenitentWoman

I really do not want to see anyone else banned over my exit post. Yes, it hurts horribly to be called names, but God knows the truth, and I will have accept that as enough. Anger is terribly damaging to a person's soul.

God Bless.

You are very kind. It's not your fault that others have been banned. Matthew made clear the reason for the bans.

God Bless.

Visit the Blessed Sacrament regularly and always pay homage to Our Lady!

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #448 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:27:01 PM »

Quote from: Tiffany

Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: Tiffany
Elizabeth I had her on ignore while the priest issue was being brought up, this was only one example of her deception. I brought it up now because it was applied to the situation of her supposedly not getting support. I saw deception in what she related as far as time and the stories that went with them. Secondly the views she states do not seem to be her own, they are very extreme, and other statements she makes do not support someone with those views. She devalues other women too.
Even after being called out and back peddling, she still attacks. IMO She is a predator appearing to be someone she is not and she is highly manipulative in various ways. When the threads don't go according to her narrative of her needing a husband or when her inconsistencies are called out, she attacks.

Ok, enough!

We're well aware you're not in the PW fan club. I don't see why this whole thing had to get stirred up again just because I banned Marcelino.

I still think you're going to have a lot to answer for, and you need to enter into yourself -- offline, in old-fashioned meditation -- about envy, jealousy, etc.

If you're indeed NOT envious, etc. it will be a surprise and a coincidence, because you're certainly acting like you are. You're acting like someone who DOES have envy -- sadness at the good of another. You have a less-than-ideal situation yourself, and you can't stand to watch a nice young lady perhaps end up with a husband, married in the Church, with a complete family life and probably more children.

Does that thought make you sad? I believe it does.

Please Tiffany, let it go.

Maybe Matthew's wrong about you, but he does have a point, you are acting in a terrible manner. Just let it go, please. Matthew is generally spot on about people.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #449 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:44:18 PM »

I think you'll be making your exit from this forum.

You're pretty clueless as to context here.

PW is fond of this forum and its management.