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Offline Matthew

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Poche is banned
« on: October 05, 2020, 03:54:20 PM »
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  • I was trying to be fair, but I believe in this case a "good reason" goes beyond individual rules kept or broken. In certain cases, an individual might stay on the good side of every rule, while annoying members, flirting with heterodoxy, and in general being a bane to the forum, while remaining within the bounds of all the forum rules.

    I can't deny that many people have called for Poche's banning over the years.

    I've always tried to be objective, listening to complaints and reports of actual rule violations, trying to be fair to all sides. I also considered Poche to be harmless, although I admit I don't participate in *every* thread and conversation on the forum (at this point, that would be near-impossible on a forum as active as CathInfo.)

    Therefore I've been stubborn *on principle* about this up till now. The forum has rules, and I'm always willing to enforce them. But sometimes you need someone that sees and understands the big picture, not just a piece of software that runs a script "Yes/No" against a set of rules, and renders a cold, lifeless verdict which can often be far off the mark.

    But I can't do it, guys. I can't be Fr. Pfeiffer living in his own fantasy world, stubbornly hanging on to a rogue like Pablo. I can't do it now, nor will I ever. I can't exist in such a mental fantasy land, divorced from reality. When reality rears its head, despite what path I've taken up till now, I have to be willing to change my course (if not my mind).

    Ladislaus makes a good case. I read it, considered it, and when taken as a whole, I now see Poche in a different light. I have to take Ladislaus' word for it with regards to some of the points he brought up (which I haven't seen or experienced personally) but I have no reason to doubt Lad's veracity.

    Once I saw where this was going (i.e., that it's time for a new course on poche), I jumped right to this course of action, because you know what? I don't have time for games. I'm a busy man. I need to have this poche thing behind me. So I'm skipping a lot of back-and-forth, drama, discussion, etc. and just jumping right to the end.

    And I'm a practical man. It IS a bit crazy, even if I'm standing on principles, to watch many good Traditional Catholic members go out the exit door, leaving me here with Poche. I don't even like him personally. I don't have Conciliar Novus Ordo even in my past or my family. So there's no soft spot there. It was only my principles which kept him here. I thought he was a good example of what we are fighting against. But I only kept him here because I thought he was harmless, convincing no one. I'm still not entirely sure that he's really a CIA or Illuminati plant to subvert and destroy Tradition. But he is just *too* unpopular and disruptive, even for a token member. I can't have him damage the forum -- by his presence, and by chasing the best members away.

    That having been said, I have to address the elephant in the room.

    Cathinfo members, this is your ONE freebie. I'll ban Poche for you. But don't be gettin' any idears! I'm still against lynchings of CathInfo members, especially those going back years. Don't even THINK to yourself "who's the 2nd worst member here, after poche..."

    You'll find me as stubborn and unyielding as ever. I'm banning Poche. But your next request(s) will likely fall on deaf ears. I'm warning you now.

    So Ladislaus, don't be getting a big head, and the rest of you, don't be gettin' any idears.

    And all of you, have a great day.

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    It was brought to my attention that Poche was "in the right" in the RBG kerfuffle. All he reportedly said was, "May her soul, and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God rest in peace." That is completely Catholic. Such a Catholic formula does NOT imply that RBG is part of the Faithful Departed. That is a 100% Catholic sentiment, a standard Catholic prayer, as well as the Catholic position in the matter. All those cheering at the thought of RBG roasting in hell were in the wrong. Catholics don't have inverse canonizations, or declarations of who is in hell. All departed souls can and should be prayed for.
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    Offline Pax Vobis

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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #1 on: October 05, 2020, 04:15:57 PM »
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  • Thank you.  Poche had more than enough chances to moderate himself, due to your patience, which he did not.


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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #2 on: October 05, 2020, 04:19:27 PM »
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  • Pooch is gone? Damn, who am I gonna slap around here now? ::)

    Pooch was like that sparring partner who keeps shows up at the gym running his mouth but never learning anything or getting any better, yet you got tired from beating on him. One thing about ol poocher, he was consistent for the same old tired norvus ordo, touchy-feely, church of "nice" garbage. Oh well, I'm sure he'll find another trad house to hang out in and drive people crazy. That's IF you let him.

    For what its worth, I don't bother trying to get anyone banned, I just don't have the time or energy, I'll just kicked the dust from you off my feet and move on.......yes, I think I've heard that one time from somewhere.

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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #3 on: October 05, 2020, 04:45:55 PM »
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  • P.S.
    It was brought to my attention that Poche was "in the right" in the RBG kerfuffle. All he reportedly said was, "May her soul, and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God rest in peace." 
    Both are wrong.  What he said absolutely equated her with the Faithful Departed...and he never denied that.

    Having said that, I am glad he's finally gone.
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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #4 on: October 05, 2020, 05:21:50 PM »
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  • I didn't really care if poche was banned except that other good members left or were banned because of poche. Now that poche is banned, please, Matthew, unban Klas4ge or whatever his name was and Mark76 and send an email to BTNYC informing him that poche is banned. And if there are any other members who left because of poche.
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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #5 on: October 05, 2020, 05:35:57 PM »
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  • You did the right thing, Matthew.  Poche was not harmless and he pertinaciously promoted grave errors and heresy and Modernism in general.

    Religious indifferentism is no joke; it is not harmless and it is not a trivial matter.

    Note that I am not speaking about various looser interpretations of EENS, which the Church has (regrettably) never condemned, but about full-blown religious indifferentism.

    Since he refused to explain what his motivations were to post here on CI, I'd wager that he was nothing more than a troll with malicious intent.

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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #6 on: October 05, 2020, 06:03:46 PM »
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  • Best news ever. We all can get back to sanity.  

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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #7 on: October 05, 2020, 06:18:56 PM »
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  • I didn't really care if poche was banned except that other good members left or were banned because of poche. Now that poche is banned, please, Matthew, unban Klas4ge or whatever his name was and Mark76 and send an email to BTNYC informing him that poche is banned. And if there are any other members who left because of poche.

    I removed the ban on Klas and Mark, and sent a message to BTNYC.
    No one is required to be an active member. We all have free will. I can't force anyone to join or stay on CathInfo.
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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #8 on: October 05, 2020, 06:34:11 PM »
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  • I removed the ban on Klas and Mark, and sent a message to BTNYC.
    No one is required to be an active member. We all have free will. I can't force anyone to join or stay on CathInfo.
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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #9 on: October 05, 2020, 07:28:30 PM »
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  • I removed the ban on Klas and Mark, and sent a message to BTNYC.
    No one is required to be an active member. We all have free will. I can't force anyone to join or stay on CathInfo.
    Great.
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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #10 on: October 05, 2020, 09:19:50 PM »
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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #11 on: October 05, 2020, 10:08:11 PM »
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  • I removed the ban on Klas and Mark, and sent a message to BTNYC.
    Thank you Matthew -- from KlasG4e (Know, love, and serve God 4 ever).

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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #12 on: October 05, 2020, 10:13:25 PM »
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  • If a Trad seminarian said even a third of what Poche did, he'd be shown the door very quickly. That's how bad it was. Glad that he's gone.
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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #13 on: October 05, 2020, 10:55:21 PM »
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  • Whenever I saw a thread initiated by Poche, I didn’t bother to read it.  

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    Re: Poche is banned
    « Reply #14 on: October 05, 2020, 11:09:02 PM »
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  • Whenever I saw a thread initiated by Poche, I didn’t bother to read it.  
    That was my modus operandi as well.
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