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Music - sinful waste of time?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 08:17:27 PM »
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Interesting post, the timing of it.

I was just listening to some Motley crue on youtube, no video on screen just music, and I felt that it was a waste of time though the beat was catchy. Low and behold, I go to the browser to view the video for one second, and its their album cover of headshot of Baal (or whoever the horned goat devil depiction is) with a "Crue" on his forehead.

Music is evil, usually.


If that's what you consider music, then hell yes it is!


Yup, just some 80s hair metal ballads... and if you think that was bad, you should listen to what I used to listen to before my conversion..

I feel dirty after listening to those rock songs now though, definitely venial sin.

Music - sinful waste of time?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2011, 08:18:51 PM »
It depends what kind of music you're talking about. Heavy metal music is often sinful, particularly music from the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Eagles, etc. Alot of it depends on the artist more than the genre. You could have a generally harm-less genre such as classical or whatever and have an insane person with satanic beliefs singing the song.

So music itself isn't sinful, it's the kind you listen to that determines whether or not it's sinful.


Music - sinful waste of time?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2011, 10:00:55 PM »
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Considering we've had organs in the Church for quite a while, and Chant even longer, I'd say yes.


Chant evidently falls within the use of vocal music to praise God.

I'm not referring to popular music either.

I'm  curious about what the Saints would have thought about the common practice of organists playing preludes/postludes for Mass. If they did not approve of liturgical musical extravegance (such as for weddings), what would they think of recreational music?


Someone told me that St.Alphonsus wasn't a big fan of the Polyphonic Mass on the grounds that it was too drawn out and overdone and took away too much attention from God, rather than inspiring the attendee to sentiments of piety.


Music - sinful waste of time?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2011, 12:31:12 AM »
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Considering we've had organs in the Church for quite a while, and Chant even longer, I'd say yes.


Chant evidently falls within the use of vocal music to praise God.

I'm not referring to popular music either.

I'm  curious about what the Saints would have thought about the common practice of organists playing preludes/postludes for Mass. If they did not approve of liturgical musical extravegance (such as for weddings), what would they think of recreational music?


Someone told me that St.Alphonsus wasn't a big fan of the Polyphonic Mass on the grounds that it was too drawn out and overdone and took away too much attention from God, rather than inspiring the attendee to sentiments of piety.



Even then its arguable. Last All Soul's Day I heard a setting of the Requiem Aeternam that truly sounded divine. Palestrina's setting of Sicut Cervus (that many people will be hearing in the next weekend) brings tears to your eyes. Of course, some settings, while technically brilliant, fail to arouse any sentiment (except the admiration of a trained contrapunctalist perhaps).

For sake of this thread, I'm not interested in bringing modern rock/pop into the mix. I'm mainly concerned about what most people call classical music.

I'm really interested in what St. Alphonsus has to say if he ever wrote on music. I heard that he was a musical virtuoso himself.

EDIT: Its interesting that in the 17th century, many musicians theorized that music was the only earthly art that was present in Heaven.

Music is much, much more than sound. I've read that the planets and other natural objects vibrate in tones as well (see music of the spheres). Music in Oriental philosophy is even more important...

Music - sinful waste of time?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2011, 12:32:30 AM »
I think it has a lot to do with what effect the music has on you. Does it stir the passions? Does it boost your ego? Does it hypnotise you like a drug or does it lift your spirit to God?

My taste in music definitely changed with discovering Tradition.