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Offline Matthew

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Major CathInfo outage
« on: August 26, 2022, 05:41:55 PM »
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  • I had to replace my Internet hardware today.

    TURNED OUT TO BE A HUGE PRODUCTION DEAL.

    Took 5 hours out of my afternoon. But the fallout was serious.

    The technician did a hardware reset on my router. ("Don't worry, I'm just a Grandma that uses the router to share the Internet between 1 old PC and my 1 smartphone. I'm not a power user or anything!" ::))

    Just as serious: they are switching to a new range of IP addresses for their static IP customers -- that means me. Giving me a new static IP is a HUGE deal, for obvious reasons.
    I have to change all my domains over to the new static IP address! And then there's the propagation delay.

    It will take 2-48 hours for the whole world to catch up to the new Internet location of "CathInfo.com" and my other web properties.

    There are always some lucky ones who update right away. If you're reading this early Friday evening, congratulations you lucky duck! I was not so lucky. I had to cheat by adding CathInfo's new IP address to my local hostfile.

    198.46.13.253  cathinfo.com
    198.46.13.253  www.cathinfo.com
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    Offline Quo vadis Domine

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #1 on: August 26, 2022, 05:54:45 PM »
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  • I guess I’m a lucky one! :laugh1: All kidding aside, sorry about your troubles Matthew.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #2 on: August 26, 2022, 06:05:09 PM »
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  • It was out all day for me. I was just now able to get in. I thought the NWO had taken you out. 

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #3 on: August 26, 2022, 06:19:29 PM »
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  • The box that connects us to the Internet really needed replacing. The white plastic was actually discolored from a few years of being warm. AND it was causing brief outages (personal outages, just for me!) all by itself. 

    If I had known, however, what a can of worms this was going to be, I might have put it off a bit longer. Or at least prepared better.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #4 on: August 27, 2022, 10:46:37 AM »
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  • I'm setting up CathInfo on what's probably a DYNAMIC (changing) IP address.

    So the outages are NOT over or behind us yet, unfortunately.

    I'm getting a new router, since that piece of equipment seems to be going, going gone. But that's not the only problem. The main problem is that my ISP isn't giving me the static IP I'm paying for. When I reboot the router, I get a new IP!

    But for all of Friday (6 PM on, until Saturday morning) I wasn't getting Internet AT ALL. Not fun.

    The problem is, it takes time to keep updating the IP address. But my time is the least of the issue -- it takes 2-48 hours to propagate such changes over the Internet.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #5 on: August 27, 2022, 10:53:36 AM »
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  • I thought the NWO had taken you out.

    With all due respect, that's never going to happen. 
    Or, HOW exactly did you think that would play out? Did you really think black helicopters fired missiles at my house on Friday? Really?

    Do you understand I'm self-hosted? About the only way to take out CathInfo would be to shut down my utilities -- or for me to have average, residential Internet problems. But you see, Internet issues (company upgrading hardware, having growing pains, causing outages to their customers, static IP address issues, etc.) are always TEMPORARY.

    So can "stuff happen" to take down CathInfo for a day or two? Sure.  But "take down CathInfo" as in take it down for more than a few days? No.

    I keep backups of the site. Server hardware (a.k.a. PC hardware -- my "servers" are more like high-end PC workstations) is still for sale. Linux, apache, MySQL, PHP, etc. can be downloaded from the Internet. The Internet as a whole is up and accessible. No vaccine is required to access the Internet. As long as those things are true, CathInfo isn't going anywhere.

    When they start rounding people up to "the camps"? Then maybe. When cινιℓ ωαr breaks out and electricity goes out to large swaths of the United States? Then maybe. When cancel culture reaches the point where water companies and electric companies start cancelling people -- then maybe we'll talk. But we are certainly not there yet.

    The most controversial figures can't use Paypal, GoFundMe, certain financial products, or things like MailChimp mass e-mailing services. But I don't need any of those things to keep CathInfo up. I don't even need a webhost. That's the key.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #6 on: August 27, 2022, 11:12:31 AM »
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  • Hi, Matthew,

    CathInfo keeps going down for me, and then later it'll come back up.

    I'm getting this IP address for www.cathinfo.com -- 70.40.18.39

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #7 on: August 27, 2022, 12:06:30 PM »
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  • Was up and down for me too. I figured it was a DDOS

    Seems good now though 


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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #8 on: August 27, 2022, 12:12:54 PM »
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  • Hi, Matthew,

    CathInfo keeps going down for me, and then later it'll come back up.

    I'm getting this IP address for www.cathinfo.com -- 70.40.18.39
    I've had the same problem since I joined.

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #9 on: August 27, 2022, 12:22:07 PM »
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  • With all due respect, that's never going to happen. 
    Or, HOW exactly did you think that would play out? Did you really think black helicopters fired missiles at my house on Friday? Really?

    Do you understand I'm self-hosted? About the only way to take out CathInfo would be to shut down my utilities -- or for me to have average, residential Internet problems. But you see, Internet issues (company upgrading hardware, having growing pains, causing outages to their customers, static IP address issues, etc.) are always TEMPORARY.

    So can "stuff happen" to take down CathInfo for a day or two? Sure.  But "take down CathInfo" as in take it down for more than a few days? No.

    I keep backups of the site. Server hardware (a.k.a. PC hardware -- my "servers" are more like high-end PC workstations) is still for sale. Linux, apache, MySQL, PHP, etc. can be downloaded from the Internet. The Internet as a whole is up and accessible. No vaccine is required to access the Internet. As long as those things are true, CathInfo isn't going anywhere.

    When they start rounding people up to "the camps"? Then maybe. When cινιℓ ωαr breaks out and electricity goes out to large swaths of the United States? Then maybe. When cancel culture reaches the point where water companies and electric companies start cancelling people -- then maybe we'll talk. But we are certainly not there yet.

    The most controversial figures can't use Paypal, GoFundMe, certain financial products, or things like MailChimp mass e-mailing services. But I don't need any of those things to keep CathInfo up. I don't even need a webhost. That's the key.
    It was a joke.:laugh1: Anyway, it seems to be back up now. I have checked on two different browsers and computers, and I was able to get in without a problem.

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #10 on: August 27, 2022, 12:27:37 PM »
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  • I just got back on now.   ( I thought maybe my cell was hacked.)



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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #11 on: August 27, 2022, 12:30:37 PM »
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  • It was a joke.:laugh1: Anyway, it seems to be back up now. I have checked on two different browsers and computers, and I was able to get in without a problem.

    Yes, I realize you were mostly joking -- but it's something a LOT of people keep thinking, the first thing they think, every time my Internet goes down here at CathInfo HQ for more than an hour.

    I just wanted to put that rumor out of its misery, once and for all. So it's nothing personal against you, sorry if it came off that way.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #12 on: August 27, 2022, 02:03:07 PM »
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  • HERE'S THE UPDATE:

    The plan is to leave CathInfo up on the current FAILING router and the current TEMPORARY IP address, until Monday morning if possible.
    New router comes in today. I might open it up and start messing with it, but I won't risk hooking it up. "Let sleeping dogs lie."
    I'm not going to mess with those sleeping dogs until my Internet provider is open for business again!

    On Monday late morning, I'll hook up the new router and hopefully get my permanent ("static") IP address after some time on the phone with my Internet provider. That will probably be afternoon. Then I'll have to move CathInfo to that new address -- which means another outage of anywhere from 2 hours to 48 hours, depending on where you live. So BE WARNED!
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #13 on: August 27, 2022, 02:03:24 PM »
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  • With all due respect, that's never going to happen. 
    Or, HOW exactly did you think that would play out? Did you really think black helicopters fired missiles at my house on Friday? Really?

    Do you understand I'm self-hosted? About the only way to take out CathInfo would be to shut down my utilities -- or for me to have average, residential Internet problems. But you see, Internet issues (company upgrading hardware, having growing pains, causing outages to their customers, static IP address issues, etc.) are always TEMPORARY.

    So can "stuff happen" to take down CathInfo for a day or two? Sure.  But "take down CathInfo" as in take it down for more than a few days? No.

    I keep backups of the site. Server hardware (a.k.a. PC hardware -- my "servers" are more like high-end PC workstations) is still for sale. Linux, apache, MySQL, PHP, etc. can be downloaded from the Internet. The Internet as a whole is up and accessible. No vaccine is required to access the Internet. As long as those things are true, CathInfo isn't going anywhere.

    When they start rounding people up to "the camps"? Then maybe. When cινιℓ ωαr breaks out and electricity goes out to large swaths of the United States? Then maybe. When cancel culture reaches the point where water companies and electric companies start cancelling people -- then maybe we'll talk. But we are certainly not there yet.

    The most controversial figures can't use Paypal, GoFundMe, certain financial products, or things like MailChimp mass e-mailing services. But I don't need any of those things to keep CathInfo up. I don't even need a webhost. That's the key.

    I'm not sure it's that outrageous.  They could just have the ISP take you down on account of the content here on CI.  I'm actually a bit surprised that they haven't already tried -- except that perhaps they think the forum/site is small enough that it's not any kind of threat to them.  I bet that if somehow membership and traffic on this site exploded, they'd be getting a corrupt judge issue an order to the ISP to take down your connectivity.  They blocked the President of the United States off of Twitter, Facebook, etc. ... well short of before they start rounding people up into camps.  And even the temporary outage could be caused by a DDOS attack.

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #14 on: August 27, 2022, 02:05:04 PM »
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  • HERE'S THE UPDATE:

    The plan is to leave CathInfo up on the current FAILING router and the current TEMPORARY IP address, until Monday morning if possible.
    New router comes in today. I might open it up and start messing with it, but I won't risk hooking it up. "Let sleeping dogs lie."
    I'm not going to mess with those sleeping dogs until my Internet provider is open for business again!

    On Monday late morning, I'll hook up the new router and hopefully get my permanent ("static") IP address after some time on the phone with my Internet provider. That will probably be afternoon. Then I'll have to move CathInfo to that new address -- which means another outage of anywhere from 2 hours to 48 hours, depending on where you live. So BE WARNED!

    If there's any way you can get the new IP before they make the switch and perhaps communicate it, we wouldn't have to wait for the DNS propagation.