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Re: Jєωιѕн roots of the Mass
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2020, 04:36:38 AM »
First and foremost the Mass is a sacrifice.
All sacrifices of the old covenant were but a prefiguration of the Holy Mass that was to come.
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Re: Jєωιѕн roots of the Mass
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2020, 12:48:33 PM »
First and foremost the Mass is a sacrifice.
All sacrifices of the old covenant were but a prefiguration of the Holy Mass that was to come.
While this is true enough, as far as it goes, it is so incomplete as to be misleading.

The sacrifices of the old covenant, like the priesthood and the Temple, prepare for the new covenant, i.e. Christianity.  These things no longer exist, other than as they have been fulfilled by Christ.  Shortly after the time of Christ, the Temple was destroyed.  The priesthood that served it ceased to function.  The sacrifices made there ceased to happen.  The Judaism that existed after this point was no longer the religion of the old covenant.  What is now called Judaism has its roots in the beliefs and practices of the Pharisees, based on the traditions of man, not the religion of God.

If we talk about "Jєωιѕн roots of the Mass" we are not talking about modern Judaism.  Many people talk about "Jєωιѕн roots" or "Jєωιѕн foundations" of Catholicism in an attempt to give some validity to modern Judaism, but it just doesn't work that way.


Re: Jєωιѕн roots of the Mass
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2020, 08:02:05 PM »
It looks like s2srea a Hero Member that joined CI on 2-21-2011 and last active 2-20-2019 is our oldest member
of 108 from Rockwell, Texas. He has many brain provocative posts.

Re: Jєωιѕн roots of the Mass
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2020, 02:08:51 AM »
You referenced this book on my curse of Ham thread.
In my investigation of the curse of Ham I found that St. Ephraem the Syrian, who was made a Doctor of the Church in 1920, is the only notable Catholic before the 19th century who promoted the curse of Ham as applying to blacks.
Fr. Meagher may have been influenced by the тαℓмυd.
In the past I've speculated that Matthew allows Poche's membership because Poche spikes activity and/or Poche provides Catholics an opportunity to sharpen their wits to Jew lies.
JayneK has yet, as far as I know, to inform her Jєωιѕн family members of the great news that the h0Ɩ0cαųst didn't happen. Perhaps 2Vermont would like to inform her Jєωιѕн family members as well.
It should be fantastic news to a Jew that the h0Ɩ0cαųst didn't happen. One would think they would shout if from the rooftops.
Hello rum, nice to exchange posts with you for the first time.

Kindly, may I ask you a personal favour? Would you refrain from posting what may lead this thread astray? I have recently converted and I am studying the Catholic religion. This platform offers me the opportunity to obtain valuable replies to doubts and questions but, if these replies become buried among irrelevant posts, the thread looses part of its usefulness.

We all suffer because jews killed our Lord, we all agree that it is false religion and we all experienced use of the h0Ɩ0cαųst for reasons other than legitimate.

But it is not helpful to attack those who converted from judaism, only because they have not managed to convert their families, as much as it would not be helpful to attack me, who just converted from reformists religion, only because I have not managed to convert my family.

I even hold that, in our generation, reformists have done more harm to the Church than jews.

More to the point, what are your opinions on the roots of our Catholic Mass? Are they rooted in pre-Pentecost judaism?

Re: Jєωιѕн roots of the Mass
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2020, 02:14:56 AM »
The sacrifices of the old covenant, like the priesthood and the Temple, prepare for the new covenant, i.e. Christianity.  These things no longer exist, other than as they have been fulfilled by Christ.  Shortly after the time of Christ, the Temple was destroyed.  The priesthood that served it ceased to function.  The sacrifices made there ceased to happen.  The Judaism that existed after this point was no longer the religion of the old covenant.  What is now called Judaism has its roots in the beliefs and practices of the Pharisees, based on the traditions of man, not the religion of God.
Jaynek, so would you agree that that article is accurate up to its author's reference to the тαℓмυd? Would it be correct to affirm that our Lord's actions, during His last supper when He taught us to repeat them in memory of Him, are rooted in the Jєωιѕн passover? Would that description be accurate?