[Meg]

Just one more thing to add, Jayne. Hopefully this won't sound lame, but Cath Info is a good place for know-it-all women (like us) to learn to be more humble, and to realize that we aren't smarter than the trad men around us. Not an easy lesson to learn, but much needed! God bless!

[Jaynek]

Just one more thing to add, Jayne. Hopefully this won't sound lame, but Cath Info is a good place for know-it-all women (like us) to learn to be more humble, and to realize that we aren't smarter than the trad men around us. Not an easy lesson to learn, but much needed! God bless!

It does not sound lame. I would like to learn that.  Thank you for your kindness.  I will respond to the other posts when I finish reading Pascendi.

[Jaynek]

There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience.  I do not want my name associated with it.

What is the procedure to have my membership ended?  Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.

God bless you all.

Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?

Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.  

Jayne,  why are you still here?  ?    Have you nowhere else to go?

I am here to eat my words.  I was wrong and that is what I owe you all in justice.

I will not stay if most people object to me being here.

[Jaynek]

I get that people don't want an "all about me" thread, but I need help understanding what is expected from me here.

Start with reading Pascendi:

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10pasce.htm

Thank you.  I think I read it a long time ago, but I read it again today.  I can see there is Modernism is in the Church.  I thought the comment about how it leads to atheism was prophetic.

[Jaynek]

I do not see a problem with your involvement here but there are people that reject to it for some strong reasons...reasons that you are already aware of. I'm sure the majority would welcome you back if you were sincere and left the theatrics in the roon furtherest from your computer.

I am not really sure what the reasons are for the strong feelings against me.  I've been thinking of asking, but I'm afraid that would come across as too "theatrical".  

I get that people don't want an "all about me" thread, but I need help understanding what is expected from me here.

I, for one, hope that you'll stay here, Jayne. I'm going to try to stay away from the FE threads here, since I've said all that I have to say about it, and Matthew has summed up the situation well.

A word of advice for participating on this forum (since I also tend to be contentious). When you see something that someone has wrote that bothers you here - just ignore it, if you can. It doesn't bother me anymore when others are contentious, but I'm trying to learn to be less so.

Since this forum really represents all trad views, things are allowed to be discussed here which aren't allowed elsewhere. I like this approach, even though I may disagree with some of the views.

It is also a good idea to read Pascendi as has been posted here already. It's a good reminder of how the modernists and liberals think.

Thank you, Meg.  You have good cause not to be kind to me, so I appreciate your kindness all the more.  I will take your advice to heart.  I did just read Pascendi and I see what you mean.

[OHCA]

There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience.  I do not want my name associated with it.

What is the procedure to have my membership ended?  Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.

God bless you all.

Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?

Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.  

Jayne,  why are you still here?  ?    Have you nowhere else to go?

I am here to eat my words.  I was wrong and that is what I owe you all in justice.

I will not stay if most people object to me being here.

JayneK has gone from considering Impy a he, it, she, it, she, he, and now claims to have broke free of the stronghold that Impy's charming charismatic good natured self posed to her free will, autonomous thinking mechanisms (why do I envision three hamsters spinning two cogs about the size of a nickel).

She freely, and rightfully ashamedly, admits that this pervert influenced her to apparently believe that all of the homo/tranny paganism (worse than heresy IMO) feminist domination (I don't mean in a way that may excite Impy) was acceptable, and to walk away from CI, feigning to shake the dust from her feet, and getting snarky with us and acting like a big meanie on her way out, speaking thusly about us:

There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience.  I do not want my name associated with it.

What is the procedure to have my membership ended?  Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.

God bless you all.

Jayne could possibly benefit from being here if she doesn't proceed bullheadedly thinking that the 60s she grew up in and the 70s NO that she entered are relevant for anything more than to demonstrate the errors of those times and some good southern rock.  Realize that we don't value "everybody getting along" like a bunch of hippie dope smokers communing for their grandest objective in life, scoring more weed--the righteousness of true Catholicism & Truth doesn't spin off of nor bow to what is particularly popular in a given day, political correctness, nor who may be offended.

[Devekut]

What people are failing to realise is that the *normal* ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is self-centered, and narcissistic. Now, a *transgender* person magnifies these characteristics and when you combine this sickness with a person who is a lawyer there is strong potential for the formation of a Doomsday Drag Queen Genital Mutilating cult. I no longer find it surprising at all that Gimpy was able to brainwash the people that he did. The one thing that I find most disgusting on VOX'S part is that she allowed Gimpy to flirt with a straight man. Vox is ok with Gimpy moving his filthy pervert lifestyle from those weirdo fetish homo video raping sites over to FE. That is reason alone for FE to be closed down.

[OHCA]

What people are failing to realise is that the *normal* ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is self-centered, and narcissistic. Now, a *transgender* person magnifies these characteristics and when you combine this sickness with a person who is a lawyer there is strong potential for the formation of a Doomsday Drag Queen Genital Mutilating cult. I no longer find it surprising at all that Gimpy was able to brainwash the people that he did. The one thing that I find most disgusting on VOX'S part is that she allowed Gimpy to flirt with a straight man. Vox is ok with Gimpy moving his filthy pervert lifestyle from those weirdo fetish homo video raping sites over to FE. That is reason alone for FE to be closed down.

This post is full of excellent points. "[T]he *normal* ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is self-centered, and narcissistic."  This is very true and this is precisely the reason that I believe most ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ by choice.  They crave the attention that comes their way from that choice.

A lot (probably most) normal people argue that homos wouldn't do that because the negativity outweighs the attention crave.  But homos have an unhealthy imbalanced insatiable craving for attention--negative or positive.  Now I am not saying that this explains every single one of them.  But in what I have observed, it explains many more than it does not.

[Jaynek]

 :thinking:  < me being quiet

[PereJoseph]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned here yet, but it seems that Fisheaters is now being subject to a mental breakdown and purge on the part of its owner (that's the charitable reading).  The new policy at FE bans "rad-trads" and says to them, "SHAME on you!"  This womanish and fideistic stuff is truly bizarre and disgusting.  It seems like a detour through the diabolically twisted imagination of most feminists and/or hysterical women who reject the natural order on account of indulgence in self-serving frenzy.  Please read it for yourself if it would at all interest you.  Here is the new message before entering the forum :

PLEASE NOTE that "rad trads" are not welcome to post here any longer. I'd allowed pretty much anyone to post at this forum, and I shouldn't have, because "rad trads" turn people away from the Faith, they wound the Sacred Heart, they undo the work I am trying to do to bring souls to Christ and His Church, and they have given my years and years of very hard work a bad name, making the name "FishEaters" something too many people associate with them and their nasty attitudes instead of my work and my mission. They've also been a pain in my neck for years. I'm done with it.

If you're a (pseudo-) trad who: is nasty, bitter, angry, disrespectful of the Holy Father, judgmental, rigorist, legalistic, a jerk toward ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, a hater of Jєωιѕн people, racist, a knee-jerk reactionary, calls people heretics if they disagree with you, lacks a sense of humor, is prudish, doesn't know the difference between "modern" and "modernist" or otherwise throws around the word "modernist" without understanding its meaning, thinks that "ideas aren't for girls," is unwilling to give people the beneft of the doubt and treat people with charity, loves to gossip, treats the Faith like a mere philosphy rather than a gift from God, treats having faith like something you accomplished rather than as a supernatural gift, is prone to allowing your idea of "the perfect" to be the enemy of the good, can't have a discussion without personalizing things and engaging in fallacious ad hominems, think it's "SSPX or bust!", etc., then GO AWAY. This place is NOT for you. This is a place for people who are traditional Catholics who truly love Our Lord and are allowing Him to change their hearts.

And here is a truly insane and rather disturbing post on the forum itself that says most of the same things but -- how does one say... ? -- with more estrogen, misplaced emotive guilting, and mantra-like declarations/incantations :

SHAME on you, rad-trads, you dens of vipers, you whitewashed sepulchres, you Pharisees! SHAME on you! LOOK on His Holy Face and think of what you've done with your ego-driven theological debates, your turning the Faith into a philosophy, your lack of compassion for your fellow human beings, your apparent delight at the idea of souls burning in Hell, your really-not-joking jokes about "roasting heretics," your disgusting treatment of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, your racial animosity (some of you), your lies about me and Quis and Jayne and Clare and whoever else is on your little hate-list du jour, your constant twisting of my words to make you feel OK about engaging in gossip, your chasing souls away from Christ and from Tradition with your bitterness, your trying to destroy me and this apostolate, your slander, your angry, nasty talk about the Holy Father (I'm sure that line will get twisted into "Vox doesn't allow anyone to criticize the Pope!" I know how you work, you rad-trads! I've watched you for 15 years. I KNOW you.). LOOK at Him and beg forgiveness; He WILL give it to you if you're sincere. HE, not YOU, is the Judge.

This post is attended by an image of Our Lord.  I was looking for Casual Frank and European political news, and instead it seems like I took a wrong turn and ended up traversing through... this.  :barf:

[parentsfortruth]

I would advise this "Vox" person to read True Devotion to Our Lady. She obviously needs it, as do most people anyway, but especially her.

[Capt McQuigg]

Thanks for posting that, PereJoseph!

That Vox character is one crazy cat!  I could do a commentary line by line and maybe I will but - wowza - talk about estrogen overdose!!!!  It's an example of emotion on steroids while logic is being starved of oxygen.

[wallflower]

I've been battling whether or not to point something out since I saw her admit to being bipolar or manic but there is such a thing as hyper religiosity and it seems like we might be getting more and more into an episode. The unusual intensity of emotion that I had previously chalked up to being an emotional woman with an emotional temperament might actually be a bit more involved. I recently saw an exchange between her and Roger Buck (I think it was) about "her work" and it's greatness that was sappy to an almost creepy level. I cannot imagine the saints who accomplished great things for God fawning over themselves like that. Now this. I've been very worried for her and I know that if she wants to attribute ill-will to my worry she will, there's nothing I can do about that except to say again that there is none. I feel it in my heart and wish I could make everything ok. However, for anyone else, just be aware that there could be a lot more to the story. I obviously have no way of knowing for sure, I am just putting the awareness out there. That's a big part of why I think stepping away from the forum would ultimately be for the best for her. It seems like it's a trigger for a lot of irrational ranting. Pile that on top of mental illness and it's just not a good situation.  

[Neil Obstat]

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Best thread I've seen in weeks.

I'm not sure what your expectations were, but perhaps now you have
realized how wrong you could be.

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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience.  I do not want my name associated with it.

What is the procedure to have my membership ended?  Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.

God bless you all.

Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?

She's a drama queen.

And yes this is the best thread in a while!

The best thread in a while?  You've got to be kidding.  

This thread stinks.



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What people are failing to realise is that the *normal* ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is self-centered, and narcissistic. Now, a *transgender* person magnifies these characteristics and when you combine this sickness with a person who is a lawyer there is strong potential for the formation of a Doomsday Drag Queen Genital Mutilating cult. I no longer find it surprising at all that Gimpy was able to brainwash the people that he did. The one thing that I find most disgusting on VOX'S part is that she allowed Gimpy to flirt with a straight man. Vox is ok with Gimpy moving his filthy pervert lifestyle from those weirdo fetish homo video raping sites over to FE. That is reason alone for FE to be closed down.

This entire thread is self-centered, narcissistic and *transgender* --  get real.

It ought to be deleted wholesale.



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[Jaynek]

I will be seeing my spiritual director this weekend and will probably be discussing this with him.  What do you think are the signs that I ought to quit the Internet?

I'd tell him how strongly you identify with the forums you post on, how involved you are in the conflicts that occur there, the degree that you think and worry about these conflicts when you are not on the internet, and the degree to which people you meet and interact with online affect you and how seriously you take their opinions.

Based on my observations, I'd think you'd answer those questions:

A lot
Seriously
I suspect more than a little
Apparently quite seriously

If you think I'm right in my estimations, then you might say

"Father, I identify very strongly with the forums I post on, to the point of defending them, apologizing for them,and  evangelizing for them, even though I do not own them and have no say in how they are run.  Incidentally, they are run by lay people.

I get very involved in the conflicts that occur on these forums, and I respond in emotional ways because as I said, I am very personally invested in these forums.

I find that I think and worry about the online conflicts when I am not on the internet at all.  

Also, recently, I received some bad advice from a person I interact with on the internet, and I found that I was taking this advice very seriously even though now, I question the wisdom of it."


Any spiritual adviser worth his salt should say, at that point "Jayne, perhaps the internet and these conflicts are becoming a temptation for you."

You can decide if my inferences from my observations are true.  If not, then by all means, join in the fray.  In any case, you are wise, wise, wise to take it to your director.  Best of luck and God Bless.    

Thank you again for your advice.  I did discuss this with my spiritual adviser.  He has told me to fast from forums on Fridays and pay attention to how I react to being away from them for a day.  I expect we will discuss this further the next time I see him.