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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jaynek on September 07, 2013, 04:27:13 PM
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
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:incense:
From your posts, I'm not surprised you don't like cathinfo.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum ...
Jayne, can you please name a few of these things?
God bless you too.
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See above....
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Good looking family, jaynek.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum ...
Jayne, can you please name a few of these things?
God bless you too.
What most distresses me is the amount of nastiness that is posted. There are, of course, some ideas that I disagree with, but it is the amount of mean-spiritedness that I find unbearable.
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There has been a change in posting, since i joined, some people are becoming more confrontational, reckless even, i hope sincere people dont leave because of this, but maybe, participate more, to keep a balance,
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From your posts, I'm not surprised you don't like cathinfo.
Jaynek was another willing victim of the NO. She is an educated NOer in that she obtained a Master Of Divinity Degree of the Novus Ordo and I think (hope) she did so before she found out there was a NO.
15 years ago, I delt with another one with the same degree - whatever methods they use to indoctrinate the students while they're getting brainwashed seems to be hopelessly irreversible based on my own observation of Jayne and this other guy I knew.
The difference between Jayne and the guy I knew is that for the guy, the Church started with V2 - everything prior to V2 which was in disagreement was automatically and infallibly abrogated by V2, Jayne OTOH keeps trying to interpret V2 in the light of tradition by rationalizing everything into a circle.
I used to imagine what a nightmare it would be to see them two gang up on a debate about something like the new "mass" vs the True Mass.
Anyway Jayne, you've been and will remain in my prayers.
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Anyway Jayne, you've been and will remain in my prayers.
Thank you for your prayers.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum ...
Jayne, can you please name a few of these things?
God bless you too.
What most distresses me is the amount of nastiness that is posted. There are, of course, some ideas that I disagree with, but it is the amount of mean-spiritedness that I find unbearable.
Jayne, the character of any forum depends on it's moderator and members.
Ignis Ardens used to be pretty good. It changed into a nasty battlefield around the time the Zionist Maximilian Krah, was discovered assisting the top leaders of the SSPX.
Until then, Msgr. Fellay had succeeded in pulling the wool over the faithful's eyes.
It was the Catholic forums that broke loose the truth and it was an ugly process.
Judith's job to save her people and the Faith was nasty.
It took great courage and grace.
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Standing firm in the face of "nastiness" is our Catholic militant duty.
To address your complaint, I and many other members would agree that the tone and level of topics on CI seem to have deteriorated in 2013.
Hopefully our members will rise to the challenge by offering more edifying topics and being more charitable with each other.
However, with the demise of IA, we can expect trolls to migrate to CI.
May all CI members and our moderator be fair in addressing them and firm in banning them, if necessary... for the Faith... and for the good of the whole.
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Best thread I've seen in weeks.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
She's a drama queen.
And yes this is the best thread in a while!
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.
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Best thread I've seen in weeks.
Graham,
Hope to see more of you on Catholic Info.
From my memories of you on IA, you're a great contributor and member.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.
Rediculous. This is just drawing more attention to yourself on which you thrive. I wouldn't expect any other course for a liberal drama queen's farewell though.
Peace, love, and good riddance to you hippie flower-child.
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Just started reading all this stuff!
Just read OHCA's post. No matter what you think of Jaynek, OHCA, that is crude & rude & unbecoming of a Catholic - no matter what stripe. If you don't apologize,then I will, that that nastiness ever saw the light of day.
I'm truly sorry, Jaynek, & please remember that this is only a tiny few trad Catholics. This absolutely does not represent the majority of the trads.
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Just started reading all this stuff!
Just read OHCA's post. No matter what you think of Jaynek, OHCA, that is crude & rude & unbecoming of a Catholic - no matter what stripe. If you don't apologize,then I will, that that nastiness ever saw the light of day.
I'm truly sorry, Jaynek, & please remember that this is only a tiny few trad Catholics. This absolutely does not represent the majority of the trads.
I love the Catholic Church and her traditions. That does not change when I see unpleasant behaviour from trads. If the only nastiness here were that which has been directed at me, I would probably just ignore it. Unfortunately it is pervasive throughout the forum.
Thank you, Thorn, for your kindness.
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. . . Please remember that this is only a tiny few trad Catholics. This absolutely does not represent the majority of the trads.
I'm glad you pointed that out for her. I am quite certain that she has no firsthand point of reference.
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By no means. She actually prefers and recommends:
http://www.hebrewcatholic.net/category/about-the-ahc/ahc-articles/
Too bad they lack a forum. We'd see the marranos like her basking in that *&%!hole.
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What is the procedure to have my membership ended? . . .
Somebody hurry and find those papers she has to sign before she changes her mind.
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What is the procedure to have my membership ended? . . .
Somebody hurry and find those papers she has to sign before she changes her mind.
schnell!
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Jaynek, compare the membership index with the number of members who behave badly. You'll find they make a very tiny percentage. Since they will not apologise, I add mine to OHCA's.
Better yet, if someone's post is bad, why not point it out to them in a charitable manner? Many nowadays have no social skills because there were no good examples to follow.
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People would be a much more charitable if Matthew insisted they at least use their real first name. There is something about your name on the Internet, that keeps you honest.
The rude people here seem to forget that God can see right past that moniker of yours.
Let me take this opportunity to apologize for any rudeness, I try to be kind, but I am not perfect.
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People would be a much more charitable if Matthew insisted they at least use their real first name. There is something about your name on the Internet, that keeps you honest.
Don't be so sure Myrna. There are many people who go out of their way to be vicious, first name or not.
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People would be a much more charitable if Matthew insisted they at least use their real first name. There is something about your name on the Internet, that keeps you honest.
It may keep one more charitable, (hopefully, we're all honest), but it also has its disadvantages. Look at what happened with Sean Johnson. Have you seen him post lately?
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Dear Jayne,
Thanks for answering my question. I just got back to it.
Your short and sweet answer did not surprise me. Yes, things have taken a downturn here, charitywise. But a few charitable souls have already given you their 2c.
Now why not get into practice for the real persecution? As Santa Teresa would say to her sisters: Be a man! (or something to that effect).
BTW, I don't see how you can be a drama queen because drama queens like centre stage and I hardly ever see your posts. In fact I think you came back fairly recently after an absence, no?
Why not have a go at correcting those at fault?
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Now why not get into practice for the real persecution? As Santa Teresa would say to her sisters: Be a man! (or something to that effect).
A friend of mine always quotes Saint Teresa on this subject. I believe her words were: "We need virile souls"!
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There are plenty of those here.
No, wait a minute, strike that.
I was thinking 'puerile'.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.
Rediculous. This is just drawing more attention to yourself on which you thrive. I wouldn't expect any other course for a liberal drama queen's farewell though.
Peace, love, and good riddance to you hippie flower-child.
She will always be prima donna at the fag-excusing, hebrew-hybrid, gangster-rap forums.
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It's amazing that she has been at FE all this time and she objects to *CI* because of 'nastiness.'
So, you continue to participate at FE but CI offends your delicate sensibilities?
Umm..yeah.
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It's amazing that she has been at FE all this time and she objects to *CI* because of 'nastiness.'
So, you continue to participate at FE but CI offends your delicate sensibilities?
Umm..yeah.
This. x10,000
"Endorsement of fαɢɢօtry and transsɛҳuąƖism are fine, but a handful of rude people? Anathema!"
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Good, we won't miss you. Shed your modernism, and then come back. Goodbye.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.
Good, we all know you're no friend of tradition. How's that transsɛҳuąƖ you defended on Fishkill doing?
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Jayne is a troll of sorts. She does this on every Catholic forum. She will attempt to correct trads and then when they get irritated, she will say "I'm sorry". Which is bs of course. You don't repeat a pattern for years unless you are doing it on purpose.
She also sucks up. It's pathetic how she has Vox at FE wound around her finger. (I suppose a person who titles a supposedly Catholic work "wham bam thank you mam" and defends transvestites and trad baiting by neo cats will embrace most anything) She sucks up to the mods on CA as well. CA radio runs a couple of "rad trad" programs and what does she do ? Starts a thread there titled " Criticizing Traditionalist Extremists" Now, how would one think THAT thread would turn out on CA ?
Another troll-like tendency she has is her desire for attention, and with someone like her who always plays the victim after baiting others, the only way to deal with her is simply ignore her. Hard to do I know, but eventually, she will wind up swimming in the poison at CA ands FE, and leave good Catholics alone.
pax
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It's amazing that she has been at FE all this time and she objects to *CI* because of 'nastiness.'
So, you continue to participate at FE but CI offends your delicate sensibilities?
Umm..yeah.
That's because she's a troll. All you have to do is look at this supposed "farewell" thread. She's so disgusted by CI that she wants to disassociate herself from it, yet she sticks around to respond to people on this very thread. And it's been the same crap with her here and on FE: "I'm sorry." "I'm just here to learn." "Please pray for me." On and on. She craves attention (witness this thread). I refuse to pray for someone who is insincere. If she really leaves (which I doubt, considering that she's Vox's little stooge), the only thing I'll miss is the opportunity to down-thumb her. People can call me uncharitable or whatever works for them, but her history has exposed her for what she is.
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It's amazing that she has been at FE all this time and she objects to *CI* because of 'nastiness.'
So, you continue to participate at FE but CI offends your delicate sensibilities?
Umm..yeah.
That's because she's a troll. All you have to do is look at this supposed "farewell" thread. She's so disgusted by CI that she wants to disassociate herself from it, yet she sticks around to respond to people on this very thread. And it's been the same crap with her here and on FE: "I'm sorry." "I'm just here to learn." "Please pray for me." On and on. She craves attention (witness this thread). I refuse to pray for someone who is insincere. If she really leaves (which I doubt, considering that she's Vox's little stooge), the only thing I'll miss is the opportunity to down-thumb her. People can call me uncharitable or whatever works for them, but her history has exposed her for what she is.
May I be the first to give you a thumbs up for stating the obvious :applause:
pax
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It's amazing that she has been at FE all this time and she objects to *CI* because of 'nastiness.'
So, you continue to participate at FE but CI offends your delicate sensibilities?
Umm..yeah.
She's happy at FE because the moderator makes her sound like the voice of reason and they sympathize and co-miserate together in the face of unvarnished truth and tradition about those speaking it being "big meanies." Unlike CI, at FE she is the star and heroine of the drama. Here she just comes off as the flower-child morality is relative crackpot that she really is.
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Jayne
You are hereby publicly released from the bonds of CI. From this moment on you are forever forbidden to post on this forum under the JayneK or any other name. Pray that God gives you the grace to resist the temptation to have the last word.
Good bye.
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Well, then we should be careful not to spread rumor.
Alright, I'll ask Matthew to delete my posts on the subject.
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I don't know if that's necessary, so long as people understand that it isn't verified.
Even those who condescend traditionalism don't deserve the reputation of being a sodomite pornographer unless they actually are.
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I don't know if that's necessary, so long as people understand that it isn't verified.
Even those who condescend traditionalism don't deserve the reputation of being a sodomite pornographer unless they actually are.
I agree. I sent a PM to Matthew to have the posts deleted, so that will hopefully limit how many folks see it. Thanks.
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Maybe JayneK could lustily say to Cathinfo: "I wish I could quit you!"
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It's amazing that she has been at FE all this time and she objects to *CI* because of 'nastiness.'
So, you continue to participate at FE but CI offends your delicate sensibilities?
Umm..yeah.
That's because she's a troll. All you have to do is look at this supposed "farewell" thread. She's so disgusted by CI that she wants to disassociate herself from it, yet she sticks around to respond to people on this very thread. And it's been the same crap with her here and on FE: "I'm sorry." "I'm just here to learn." "Please pray for me." On and on. She craves attention (witness this thread). I refuse to pray for someone who is insincere. If she really leaves (which I doubt, considering that she's Vox's little stooge), the only thing I'll miss is the opportunity to down-thumb her. People can call me uncharitable or whatever works for them, but her history has exposed her for what she is.
THIS, THIS THIS!!!
This has been Jane's MO for years. She has Vox wrapped around her finger and she knows it. She provokes and attacks traditionalists; calls them schismatic, Protestant, separated from the Church, and then when she gets the reaction from them she has been trying to get all along (someone calls her a crypto-Jew and gets themselves banned) - then she plays all innocent. That's when you get the "Oh, I'm sorry", "I didn't mean to hurt anyone", "I'm just here to learn", "Please pray for me".
I've seen it again and again and again. Anyone who still buys her "poor ole little innocent me, harmless as my little kitten avatar" routine has to be willfully blind.
I truly think she has narcissistic personality disorder. She is the only person I know who begins thread about herself. She just craves attention weather it is positive or negative.
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She has now gotten two more banned at FE, including Meg. Here is Jayne's reply after Vox announces the bans.
"I have been on sites where people are really abusive and there is nothing here (FE) comparable to that. Some people don't like me or are irritated by me. There is no reason they should not say so, as far as I am concerned. "
Crystal clear proof of what you say Mysterium Fidei.
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Jayne's a crypto.
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She has now gotten two more banned at FE, including Meg. Here is Jayne's reply after Vox announces the bans.
"I have been on sites where people are really abusive and there is nothing here (FE) comparable to that. Some people don't like me or are irritated by me. There is no reason they should not say so, as far as I am concerned. "
Crystal clear proof of what you say Mysterium Fidei.
Well, to be honest, I'm glad I was banned. I spent too much time there, and didn't really fit in. And it may not have been Jayne's fault really. There may have been other things that Vox was upset about other than me criticizing Jayne.
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I took care of the unsubstantiated rumor.
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She has now gotten two more banned at FE, including Meg. Here is Jayne's reply after Vox announces the bans.
"I have been on sites where people are really abusive and there is nothing here (FE) comparable to that. Some people don't like me or are irritated by me. There is no reason they should not say so, as far as I am concerned. "
Crystal clear proof of what you say Mysterium Fidei.
"Oh, someone got banned? Oh, I'm soooooo sorry. You should just let them call me names. I didn't mean to hurt anyone. Please pray for me."
"I'm so innocent and harmless......really."
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I took care of the unsubstantiated rumor.
Thank you.
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She has now gotten two more banned at FE, including Meg. Here is Jayne's reply after Vox announces the bans.
"I have been on sites where people are really abusive and there is nothing here (FE) comparable to that. Some people don't like me or are irritated by me. There is no reason they should not say so, as far as I am concerned. "
Crystal clear proof of what you say Mysterium Fidei.
"Oh, someone got banned? Oh, I'm soooooo sorry. You should just let them call me names. I didn't mean to hurt anyone. Please pray for me."
"I'm so innocent and harmless......really."
I cannot agree or attest enough to that fact.
I was also "conned" by her "I'm sorry" PM's. Right after I was publicly insulted and labeled by her.
A couple of months later: same MO.
And yes she is a crypto. sie ist ein Schwein.
I will say no more. She left, Deo Gratias.
Thanks again Hatchc and everybody for pointing out error.
That is one big mistake we cannot afford to have.
Gott mit uns.
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I just read the thread where Meg was banned for "general rudeness."
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3460555.140.html
Of course she wasn't rude at all. She makes some solid points, and she gets banned for it.
Vox is a nut, constantly whining about how we should worry about "how it plays in Peoria." She should have pursued a career in advertising, so consumed is she by image.
I was never attracted to trad Catholicism based on the niceness or meanness of trads. I was attracted to it because the Conciliar Church appeared to me to have nothing to do with Catholicism.
I didn't need to be "sold" on tradition by some faghag Noahide.
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People would be a much more charitable if Matthew insisted they at least use their real first name. There is something about your name on the Internet, that keeps you honest.
The rude people here seem to forget that God can see right past that moniker of yours.
Let me take this opportunity to apologize for any rudeness, I try to be kind, but I am not perfect.
That is not bad advice. My first name is Mike. I don't want to stop being Sigismund (I have become quite attached to him :wink:) but I will try to remember to add it to my posts.
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Now why not get into practice for the real persecution? As Santa Teresa would say to her sisters: Be a man! (or something to that effect).
A friend of mine always quotes Saint Teresa on this subject. I believe her words were: "We need virile souls"!
Well, at least here, we are all virtual souls.
Mike
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Hi All,
I thought it would be appropriate for me to introduce myself here since I was the other person banned on FE with Meg.
Like Meg, my ban is just as well. I clearly don't fit in there. There are a few others who think like I do, but they're also too busy watching what they are saying for fear of being chastised for being uncharitable or coming up against the fave posters. Bottom line..Vox didn't like that I disagreed vehemently on the matter of worrying about being nicer so that others will like us more.
I was literally thinking about leaving the forum when I returned to find out, well, that I couldn't even access my account. No warnings. Nothing. For someone who is so concerned about being nice, it didn't even cross Vox's mind to at least give me a warning, etc. But then again, I'm not the kind of trad she wants there anyway, so why be nice? Sooooo reminiscent of CAF.
I hear you guys are a bunch of meanies :scared2:, so I'll have to see if I can fit in here. So far I am 0-2 for Catholic forums.
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Hi All,
I thought it would be appropriate for me to introduce myself here since I was the other person banned on FE with Meg.
Like Meg, my ban is just as well. I clearly don't fit in there. There are a few others who think like I do, but they're also too busy watching what they are saying for fear of being chastised for being uncharitable or coming up against the fave posters. Bottom line..Vox didn't like that I disagreed vehemently on the matter of worrying about being nicer so that others will like us more.
I was literally thinking about leaving the forum when I returned to find out, well, that I couldn't even access my account. No warnings. Nothing. For someone who is so concerned about being nice, it didn't even cross Vox's mind to at least give me a warning, etc. But then again, I'm not the kind of trad she wants there anyway, so why be nice? Sooooo reminiscent of CAF.
I hear you guys are a bunch of meanies :scared2:, so I'll have to see if I can fit in here. So far I am 0-2 for Catholic forums.
Welcome!
Catholics are not in the appeasement business. It's not about being nice or mean. We just speak the True Faith. Truth hurts and is very uncomfortable for liberals. They prefer not to talk about it and ban people who point out errors. You and Meg are classic examples of that.
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There are plenty of those here.
No, wait a minute, strike that.
I was thinking 'puerile'.
You sure you weren't thinking "mercantile?"
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Hi All,
I thought it would be appropriate for me to introduce myself here . . .
Just as long as you don't steal too much spotlight from Jayne. After all, she is the self-proclaimed guest of honor for this, her public dramatic CI disossiciation how can I get relieved from my CI membership contract farewell parade thread.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. . .
So had she just quit posting here and never visited the site again, wonder how many nights her conscience would have had her tossing and turning for not having had some sort of public "formal" disossiciation spectacle?
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. . .
As opposed to Cesspool tank with its drag queen poster and the break up of the forum moderator's "civil" marriage after the whole Laura fake death fiasco.
Apparently her conscience doesn't find any of that objectionable enough for her to disassociate herself with that mess. But, she is running out of options. The Cesspool tank is about the only Catholic forum left for her, unless you count Catholic Answers as Catholic.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. . .
As opposed to Cesspool tank with its drag queen poster and the break up of the forum moderator's "civil" marriage after the whole Laura fake death fiasco.
Apparently her conscience doesn't find any of that objectionable enough for her to disassociate herself with that mess. But, she is running out of options. The Cesspool tank is about the only Catholic forum left for her, unless you count Catholic Answers as Catholic.
She not only accepted that behaviour, she publicly defended that travesty.
She is Vox's right hand crypto. (in every way)
Thank God she left.
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I really hope this departure gets enforced. No "backsies". If JK just cannot contain herself about some antisemitic post she sees and comments after days or weeks then pulls her usual "sorry for chiming in and making you all angry again, I understand why you'd be angry" routine she should be banned and the BS post deleted.
This dramatic exit should be enforced. Y'know, for her own good of course, since this place is such a danger to her. Yeah. That's it. *cough*
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She's gone, I think. We can let this thread die now.
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I just want to say I agree with her as a new person trying to learn you guys are not hospitable at all.
I was excited to find this forum because I was hungry for more knowledge. I know I don't know much but where do you go today? I needed someone to tell me what books to read and where to go for the truth. I thought this forum was the place but people here are nasty and you do it in the name of "true charity". There is a difference from sheparding someone gently and just being mean.
All I can say is that you are being fooled but the devil (some of you) because he uses the oldest military trick there is and that is divide and conquer. If we all ban together he has a hard time getting our souls but if he divides you by uses labels then it is easier. Why do you have to label everyone anyway? You think by telling her she is a NO that makes it ok to write her off? Maybe she came here to learn too and doesn't know as much as you. God puts those who know more with more responsibility to those who don't yet know.
Anyway. Not everyone was mean. I actually like Ggreg dude and that tiffany and there are a few others. I know some of you are like "she would like his posts.......whatever. Treat people like you want to be treated. I am done here too.
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Julie, some of us have been interacting with JayneK for years. When we call her a hardened liberal and point out her trollish, even two-faced behaviour, we are making seasoned judgments.
And it seems to me that someone with only 16 posts can't say the same about their judgment of this forum. Whatever it's problems, trust me that if you stay here you will learn a lot about doctrine.
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I just want to say I agree with her as a new person trying to learn you guys are not hospitable at all.
I was excited to find this forum because I was hungry for more knowledge. I know I don't know much but where do you go today? I needed someone to tell me what books to read and where to go for the truth. I thought this forum was the place but people here are nasty and you do it in the name of "true charity". There is a difference from sheparding someone gently and just being mean.
All I can say is that you are being fooled but the devil (some of you) because he uses the oldest military trick there is and that is divide and conquer. If we all ban together he has a hard time getting our souls but if he divides you by uses labels then it is easier. Why do you have to label everyone anyway? You think by telling her she is a NO that makes it ok to write her off? Maybe she came here to learn too and doesn't know as much as you. God puts those who know more with more responsibility to those who don't yet know.
Anyway. Not everyone was mean. I actually like Ggreg dude and that tiffany and there are a few others. I know some of you are like "she would like his posts.......whatever. Treat people like you want to be treated. I am done here too.
Uh.....Jayne is NOT a new person. And if I was being blinded by false ecuмenism and other heresies I would also want people to wake me up. Even Our Lord was "mean" to heretics and apostates. You practice rash judgment.
The Catholic Faith is not about being "nithe". It's about avoiding Hell.
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Though at around page 10 I start to wish we wouldn't dwell so much on Jayne, she is not after all the Antichrist.
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To be fair and honest, something I am known for :wink:, JayneK is a total pain and I have told her so on several occasions. She deliberately takes contrary positions, spends inordinate amounts of time on line, though she pictures herself with multiple grandchildren. She is a member of multiple Catholic forums, certainly enough to get her forum jollies off.
I bet if you asked her husband, after a couple of drinks, he would privately admit that she sits at the computer all day arguing with people on the Internet and he might even use the term "addiction". Now sure, she is not the only person guilty of that, by any means, but the solution to all the hate lies in her hands. Turn the computer off and go and babysit your grandchildren or bake a cake or make your husband a sandwich.
She joined CathInfo looking for a fight and to cross swords. It's not like this place has suddenly changed its character all of a sudden. It is well known on ALL to other Trad forums as being the most hardliner, nutty, wacko, call it what you will. And JayneK was well aware of that before she joined because it was not the first forum she joined.
JayneK came here for one reason and one reason alone. Because she was not getting her "fix" at the other forums. She was the tough girl on the street in her white middle class world and decide to test her street fighting skills against people who live in the hood. She got her arse handed to her and she is withdrawing shouting insults.
Ask people in any Trad parish anywhere in the world whether they would term a man who had a sex change operation and re-styled himself as a woman as "she" and "her" out of charity. Ask your Trad priest whether one should do that? See what he says.
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I just want to say I agree with her as a new person trying to learn you guys are not hospitable at all.
I was excited to find this forum because I was hungry for more knowledge. I know I don't know much but where do you go today? I needed someone to tell me what books to read and where to go for the truth. I thought this forum was the place but people here are nasty and you do it in the name of "true charity". There is a difference from sheparding someone gently and just being mean.
All I can say is that you are being fooled but the devil (some of you) because he uses the oldest military trick there is and that is divide and conquer. If we all ban together he has a hard time getting our souls but if he divides you by uses labels then it is easier. Why do you have to label everyone anyway? You think by telling her she is a NO that makes it ok to write her off? Maybe she came here to learn too and doesn't know as much as you. God puts those who know more with more responsibility to those who don't yet know.
Anyway. Not everyone was mean. I actually like Ggreg dude and that tiffany and there are a few others. I know some of you are like "she would like his posts.......whatever. Treat people like you want to be treated. I am done here too.
This lady coming to JayneK's defense might point to something fairly obvious that I don't think anyone has yet considered - that the complaints of the Charity Police are very frequently (around here at least) lobbed by women at men...
Is it simply a matter of the innate differences between the sexes clashing during online discourse? Women are emotional creatures whose capacity for dispassionate, rational argumentation is limited by their very nature. And with good reason - disputation and debate are inherently masculine pursuits. I've known more than a few Catholic women who are otherwise doctrinally sound who will bristle at an assertion of Catholic truth if it comes across as "mean" or "harsh" and will then foolishly conflate an agressive masculine style with a "lack of charity."
Look at FE. There's a textbook example of the kind of madness that will ensue when a woman is not only engaged in disputation, but is actually in charge of the forum in which it plays out.
"Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed; then Eve. And Adam was not seduced; but the woman being seduced, was in the transgression." 1 Timothy 2:11-15
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Hi All,
I thought it would be appropriate for me to introduce myself here since I was the other person banned on FE with Meg.
Like Meg, my ban is just as well. I clearly don't fit in there. There are a few others who think like I do, but they're also too busy watching what they are saying for fear of being chastised for being uncharitable or coming up against the fave posters. Bottom line..Vox didn't like that I disagreed vehemently on the matter of worrying about being nicer so that others will like us more.
I was literally thinking about leaving the forum when I returned to find out, well, that I couldn't even access my account. No warnings. Nothing. For someone who is so concerned about being nice, it didn't even cross Vox's mind to at least give me a warning, etc. But then again, I'm not the kind of trad she wants there anyway, so why be nice? Sooooo reminiscent of CAF.
I hear you guys are a bunch of meanies :scared2:, so I'll have to see if I can fit in here. So far I am 0-2 for Catholic forums.
Welcome, 2Vermont! Glad to see you here. Yes, FE is similar to CAF, but then trads who have a liberal tendency, or smells and bells types, need to congregate somewhere, so FE is their place. The emphasis there, now, is to be super-nice, and Vox has a right to do what she wants, but this forum (CI) represents Tradition more accurately, IMO. I'll miss some of the posters there, though, like Tim. But oh well.
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I was never attracted to trad Catholicism based on the niceness or meanness of trads. I was attracted to it because the Conciliar Church appeared to me to have nothing to do with Catholicism.
This is pretty much my take on it, too. People can go over-the-top with rudeness, which can become a problem, but I don't, any longer, judge solid Church teaching based on how nice a person is who is stating it.
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People would be a much more charitable if Matthew insisted they at least use their real first name. There is something about your name on the Internet, that keeps you honest.
The rude people here seem to forget that God can see right past that moniker of yours.
Let me take this opportunity to apologize for any rudeness, I try to be kind, but I am not perfect.
That is not bad advice. My first name is Mike. I don't want to stop being Sigismund (I have become quite attached to him :wink:) but I will try to remember to add it to my posts.
I like this idea. I, too, will put my real name at the end of posts from now on. I chose the user name 'Meg' because it's short for St. Margaret of Scotland. I wanted a short user name to make logging in easier, and didn't want to use my real name back then.
~Marcy
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BTNYC,
Brilliant insight, great post.
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I just want to say I agree with her as a new person trying to learn you guys are not hospitable at all.
I was excited to find this forum because I was hungry for more knowledge. I know I don't know much but where do you go today? I needed someone to tell me what books to read and where to go for the truth. I thought this forum was the place but people here are nasty and you do it in the name of "true charity". There is a difference from sheparding someone gently and just being mean.
All I can say is that you are being fooled but the devil (some of you) because he uses the oldest military trick there is and that is divide and conquer. If we all ban together he has a hard time getting our souls but if he divides you by uses labels then it is easier. Why do you have to label everyone anyway? You think by telling her she is a NO that makes it ok to write her off? Maybe she came here to learn too and doesn't know as much as you. God puts those who know more with more responsibility to those who don't yet know.
Anyway. Not everyone was mean. I actually like Ggreg dude and that tiffany and there are a few others. I know some of you are like "she would like his posts.......whatever. Treat people like you want to be treated. I am done here too.
Perhaps this whole internet forum thing isn't for you.
This place is quite tame compared to most forums on the internet in my experience.
Although, there's a model train forum that is quite civil, never seen nastygrams there.
Anyway, JayneK is known to many of us. As has been said, she is not 'new'. She has been around for quite awhile, and we know her from other fora (I myself only participate in one at a time due to time constraints). I myself knew her from Fisheaters.
She did the same nonsense there. Difference being, the owner was sympathetic to her brand of nonsense.
Here, she just gets politely told don't let the door hit her in the fanny on the way out.
As it should be.
She is not 'reachable' by charity. She did not come here to learn anything, so no one will waste their time trying to 'teach' her anything, must less do so patiently. She is incorrigible. I even think her picture is a tool to disarm people or make them treat her with undue deference (who wants to take the gloves off with a grandmother??)
As for you, you could learn some 'charity' as well by not jumping to conclusions or assuming things. If you've been lurking and reading as you suggest, or looked at her post count, you too could have gleaned that she is on numerous fora, even run a search of those fora, or just read any of the posts here that show clearly people are responding to her (lengthy) track record, and not her one simpering post.
Instead, you wag a finger then take your toys and go home. Sound and fury.
So, you too can exit, and beware that door as well on your way out.
Here's a place you might be more at home, you will find they are 'nice' (provided you don't express any opinions): CA Forums (http://forums.catholic.com)
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I just want to say I agree with her as a new person trying to learn you guys are not hospitable at all.
I was excited to find this forum because I was hungry for more knowledge. I know I don't know much but where do you go today? I needed someone to tell me what books to read and where to go for the truth. I thought this forum was the place but people here are nasty and you do it in the name of "true charity". There is a difference from sheparding someone gently and just being mean.
All I can say is that you are being fooled but the devil (some of you) because he uses the oldest military trick there is and that is divide and conquer. If we all ban together he has a hard time getting our souls but if he divides you by uses labels then it is easier. Why do you have to label everyone anyway? You think by telling her she is a NO that makes it ok to write her off? Maybe she came here to learn too and doesn't know as much as you. God puts those who know more with more responsibility to those who don't yet know.
Anyway. Not everyone was mean. I actually like Ggreg dude and that tiffany and there are a few others. I know some of you are like "she would like his posts.......whatever. Treat people like you want to be treated. I am done here too.
Well that's your prerogative to leave. People like her are not here to learn, they're here to ninny people for having educated opinions that disagree with her own. All you have to do is look at her posting history and see that she's a flaming liberal. There are other fora that she posts on and they're no different in tone than the ones she posted here.
Defending a transsɛҳuąƖ for adopting pronouns that do not match HIS gender is NOT a charitable thing to do, but she masks it saying that it's out of charity. It's FALSE charity she's adopting and trying to push on others here. I'm GLAD she's gone. People like her are not here to learn anything, but they try to inject the poison of modernism into others.
If you're really here to learn, thicken your skin, and listen to what people are saying. Or, you can just leave.
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I was excited to find this forum because I was hungry for more knowledge. I know I don't know much but where do you go today? I needed someone to tell me what books to read and where to go for the truth. I thought this forum was the place but people here are nasty and you do it in the name of "true charity". There is a difference from sheparding someone gently and just being mean.
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I am done here too.
If the above poster were genuinely interested in finding books that contain sound doctrine and that sort of thing, there are several sub-forums here that deal with exactly that. Instead, she chooses to hang out in the "Wild West" portions of the forum, and then complains that she doesn't like guns. Weird.
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Julie10,
Please understand that what you call "nastiness" may just be a lack of knowledge on your part. The novus ordo is very watered down and teaches that pretty much everyone goes to heaven and, sometimes the novus ordo presider will say things like "God hates plastic" or something absolutely counterproductive to the salvation of souls. Well, if you have been listened to novus ordo emptiness all your life and you come to a place like this and hear what some of the greatest Catholic saints and popes in the history of the Holy Church had to say, you would blush, just maybe. We have a lot of knowledgeable posters here who will really give it to you straight!
The novus ordo is a counterfeit form of Catholicism and is toothless and will not lead you anywhere good. The Catholic Church will DEMAND that you change your way of doing things OR ELSE!!! It's Our Lord's Church and He established it for the salvation of our souls so it counts as perhaps the greatest act of charity EVER.
Now, if you just want something to read, then get a Tan Book Co. Baltimore Catechism and get the Tan Book Co edition of St. Francis de Sales's "Introduction to the Devout Life." Start with these books.
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I’m afraid you’re wasting your time, Good Cap’n. Julie apparently took her ball and went home – I would imagine to Vox.
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Hi All,
I thought it would be appropriate for me to introduce myself here since I was the other person banned on FE with Meg.
Like Meg, my ban is just as well. I clearly don't fit in there. There are a few others who think like I do, but they're also too busy watching what they are saying for fear of being chastised for being uncharitable or coming up against the fave posters. Bottom line..Vox didn't like that I disagreed vehemently on the matter of worrying about being nicer so that others will like us more.
I was literally thinking about leaving the forum when I returned to find out, well, that I couldn't even access my account. No warnings. Nothing. For someone who is so concerned about being nice, it didn't even cross Vox's mind to at least give me a warning, etc. But then again, I'm not the kind of trad she wants there anyway, so why be nice? Sooooo reminiscent of CAF.
I hear you guys are a bunch of meanies :scared2:, so I'll have to see if I can fit in here. So far I am 0-2 for Catholic forums.
Welcome, 2Vermont! Glad to see you here. Yes, FE is similar to CAF, but then trads who have a liberal tendency, or smells and bells types, need to congregate somewhere, so FE is their place. The emphasis there, now, is to be super-nice, and Vox has a right to do what she wants, but this forum (CI) represents Tradition more accurately, IMO. I'll miss some of the posters there, though, like Tim. But oh well.
Thanks Meg! I too will miss some posters and I suspect there are a handful that are sorry to see me get banned. I'm hoping that I can connect with some of them.....maybe they'll join here (or maybe they already are members here).
I'm thinking FE was a stepping stone from CAF. I thought it would be much different and was disappointed for sure. When I joined the whole sex change fiasco was taking place (or was at least being talked about in a huge thread). Perhaps I should have taken that as a warning. For me the ban and quick un-ban of Melchoir is when I started to realize exactly what was going on. Anyway, time to move on....I hope "three's a charm".
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To be fair and honest, something I am known for :wink:, JayneK is a total pain and I have told her so on several occasions. She deliberately takes contrary positions, spends inordinate amounts of time on line, though she pictures herself with multiple grandchildren. She is a member of multiple Catholic forums, certainly enough to get her forum jollies off.
I bet if you asked her husband, after a couple of drinks, he would privately admit that she sits at the computer all day arguing with people on the Internet and he might even use the term "addiction". Now sure, she is not the only person guilty of that, by any means, but the solution to all the hate lies in her hands. Turn the computer off and go and babysit your grandchildren or bake a cake or make your husband a sandwich.
She joined CathInfo looking for a fight and to cross swords. It's not like this place has suddenly changed its character all of a sudden. It is well known on ALL to other Trad forums as being the most hardliner, nutty, wacko, call it what you will. And JayneK was well aware of that before she joined because it was not the first forum she joined.
JayneK came here for one reason and one reason alone. Because she was not getting her "fix" at the other forums. She was the tough girl on the street in her white middle class world and decide to test her street fighting skills against people who live in the hood. She got her arse handed to her and she is withdrawing shouting insults.
Ask people in any Trad parish anywhere in the world whether they would term a man who had a sex change operation and re-styled himself as a woman as "she" and "her" out of charity. Ask your Trad priest whether one should do that? See what he says.
Well Greg, she has you on one thing:
My initial reaction to Greg reviving this old thread was to resent him portraying me as a liberal in order to congratulate himself on being so moderate and reasonable.
She didn't quite nail it, but it's a transparent gambit.
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Julie10,
Please understand that what you call "nastiness" may just be a lack of knowledge on your part. The novus ordo is very watered down and teaches that pretty much everyone goes to heaven and, sometimes the novus ordo presider will say things like "God hates plastic" or something absolutely counterproductive to the salvation of souls. Well, if you have been listened to novus ordo emptiness all your life and you come to a place like this and hear what some of the greatest Catholic saints and popes in the history of the Holy Church had to say, you would blush, just maybe. We have a lot of knowledgeable posters here who will really give it to you straight!
The novus ordo is a counterfeit form of Catholicism and is toothless and will not lead you anywhere good. The Catholic Church will DEMAND that you change your way of doing things OR ELSE!!! It's Our Lord's Church and He established it for the salvation of our souls so it counts as perhaps the greatest act of charity EVER.Now, if you just want something to read, then get a Tan Book Co. Baltimore Catechism and get the Tan Book Co edition of St. Francis de Sales's "Introduction to the Devout Life." Start with these books.
This. :applause: :applause:
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However, with the demise of IA, we can expect trolls to migrate to CI.
I was wondering why I couldn't log on.
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Ok, ggreg, I agree with you on your last post. :cool:
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I really hope this departure gets enforced. No "backsies". If JK just cannot contain herself about some antisemitic post she sees and comments after days or weeks then pulls her usual "sorry for chiming in and making you all angry again, I understand why you'd be angry" routine she should be banned and the BS post deleted.
This dramatic exit should be enforced. Y'know, for her own good of course, since this place is such a danger to her. Yeah. That's it. *cough*
She'll be back.
Members are never banned when they request it.
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I was never attracted to trad Catholicism based on the niceness or meanness of trads. I was attracted to it because the Conciliar Church appeared to me to have nothing to do with Catholicism.
This is pretty much my take on it, too. People can go over-the-top with rudeness, which can become a problem, but I don't, any longer, judge solid Church teaching based on how nice a person is who is stating it.
This is sound.
There are nice types and mean types in every belief system. Some nice people are fake nice, meaning their niceness is rooted in worldliness and not holiness. Some mean types, on the other hand, are holy.
Padre Pio wouldn't have won a congeniality contest.
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I was never attracted to trad Catholicism based on the niceness or meanness of trads. I was attracted to it because the Conciliar Church appeared to me to have nothing to do with Catholicism.
This is pretty much my take on it, too. People can go over-the-top with rudeness, which can become a problem, but I don't, any longer, judge solid Church teaching based on how nice a person is who is stating it.
This is sound.
There are nice types and mean types in every belief system. Some nice people are fake nice, meaning their niceness is rooted in worldliness and not holiness. Some mean types, on the other hand, are holy.
Padre Pio wouldn't have won a congeniality contest.
Agreed. And yes, Padre Pio is a good example of someone who did not suffer fools gladly. He just told them what they needed to hear. Though he could, if the situation called for it, be caring as well. I think that this is one of the reasons why he was so loved and respected. No wishy-washiness from him at all.
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Agreed. And yes, Padre Pio is a good example of someone who did not suffer fools gladly. He just told them what they needed to hear. Though he could, if the situation called for it, be caring as well. I think that this is one of the reasons why he was so loved and respected. No wishy-washiness from him at all.
I concur. I also think that there are always a few people who think themselves a second Padre Pio who in fact fall a bit short of the mark. Some of them post on internet fora.
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I wish to retract my first post in this thread. At the time I wrote it, I had been receiving PMs from someone trying to persuade me to quit CI. I now question his influence on me and the decisions that I made under his influence.
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You need to quit the entire internet for a time. I say this as a person who has had to quit things myself before, because they were bad for me, even if they were not objectively evil. I had to tell my boss I needed to quit going to trade shows because I found them to be an occasion of sin. Not everyone needs to boycott trade shows, of course, but I did. In the same way, you need to quit the internet.
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I wish to retract my first post in this thread. At the time I wrote it, I had been receiving PMs from someone trying to persuade me to quit CI. I now question his influence on me and the decisions that I made under his influence.
Welcome back, JayneK!
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jaynek:
I wish to retract my first post in this thread. At the time I wrote it, I had been receiving PMs from someone trying to persuade me to quit CI. I now question his influence on me and the decisions that I made under his influence.
This is not good news, IMO. See what I've trying to tell you all. 31 pages of utter nonsense over this person Jaynek. Who cares about jaynek? Why so much time attention devoted to her. I have nothing personally against the woman, and wish her only God's blessing. But really, this is insane!
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I wish to retract my first post in this thread. At the time I wrote it, I had been receiving PMs from someone trying to persuade me to quit CI. I now question his influence on me and the decisions that I made under his influence.
There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Good, we won't miss you. Shed your modernism, and then come back. Goodbye.
If you've gotten rid of that modernism bug you've acquired and harbored, then come on back. Otherwise, your PMing "friend" is probably right.
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How do you feel about the infiltration of FE Jayne ? Now that 95% of the trads are gone there, and tranny runs the place ?
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Does anyone know when the Church quit burning people at the stake?
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I have a strange desire to quit Catholic Info too...
(http://smashingtops.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/2.sleepwalking.jpg)
Coincidentally, I've been getting email news updates from the Angelus Press.
Their subliminal messages is... "CI is bad for my ecuмenical karma".
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How do you feel about the infiltration of FE Jayne ? Now that 95% of the trads are gone there, and tranny runs the place ?
I am no longer a member of Fish Eaters. However, I have no interest in criticizing it here.
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You need to quit the entire internet for a time. I say this as a person who has had to quit things myself before, because they were bad for me, even if they were not objectively evil. I had to tell my boss I needed to quit going to trade shows because I found them to be an occasion of sin. Not everyone needs to boycott trade shows, of course, but I did. In the same way, you need to quit the internet.
I will be seeing my spiritual director this weekend and will probably be discussing this with him. What do you think are the signs that I ought to quit the Internet?
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I will be seeing my spiritual director this weekend and will probably be discussing this with him. What do you think are the signs that I ought to quit the Internet?
I'd tell him how strongly you identify with the forums you post on, how involved you are in the conflicts that occur there, the degree that you think and worry about these conflicts when you are not on the internet, and the degree to which people you meet and interact with online affect you and how seriously you take their opinions.
Based on my observations, I'd think you'd answer those questions:
A lot
Seriously
I suspect more than a little
Apparently quite seriously
If you think I'm right in my estimations, then you might say
"Father, I identify very strongly with the forums I post on, to the point of defending them, apologizing for them,and evangelizing for them, even though I do not own them and have no say in how they are run. Incidentally, they are run by lay people.
I get very involved in the conflicts that occur on these forums, and I respond in emotional ways because as I said, I am very personally invested in these forums.
I find that I think and worry about the online conflicts when I am not on the internet at all.
Also, recently, I received some bad advice from a person I interact with on the internet, and I found that I was taking this advice very seriously even though now, I question the wisdom of it."
Any spiritual adviser worth his salt should say, at that point "Jayne, perhaps the internet and these conflicts are becoming a temptation for you."
You can decide if my inferences from my observations are true. If not, then by all means, join in the fray. In any case, you are wise, wise, wise to take it to your director. Best of luck and God Bless.
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I will be seeing my spiritual director this weekend and will probably be discussing this with him. What do you think are the signs that I ought to quit the Internet?
I'd tell him how strongly you identify with the forums you post on, how involved you are in the conflicts that occur there, the degree that you think and worry about these conflicts when you are not on the internet, and the degree to which people you meet and interact with online affect you and how seriously you take their opinions.
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You can decide if my inferences from my observations are true. If not, then by all means, join in the fray. In any case, you are wise, wise, wise to take it to your director. Best of luck and God Bless.
Thank you for these questions to consider. I will think about them. They seem very helpful. Also thanks for your good wishes.
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How do you feel about the infiltration of FE Jayne ? Now that 95% of the trads are gone there, and tranny runs the place ?
I have been thinking about it and I think it would be reasonable to post the message that got me banned. After all, it was meant to be a public post even though it got deleted. The context was a thread on a quiz about "How feminine are you?":
"Clare Brigid" wrote:
Well, my Column A score was 13 and my Column B score was 26.
I have much to learn, but life is an adventure. :wench:
I responded:
It is all very well for Vox to say not to discuss transsɛҳuąƖity and just move on, but this poster (whom I refuse to call Clare any longer) keeps rubbing our noses in his decision to pretend to be a woman.
Impy you are not a woman and you are not going to learn how to be a woman, even if you do everything in Column B. You are a man and I should never have gone along with pretending that you are a woman. Back when you were a trad and had the assumptions that I do now, you knew that your decision to have sex reassignment surgery was wrong. So that is the judgment that I am going with. I am not buying that you have some new form of intersexed condition. There is no basis for this. You are a man with a psychological condition called transsɛҳuąƖism.
I was prepared to believe that your past mistake left you with the appearance of a woman and so you needed to live as a woman. But, even if that were true, your appearance is irrelevant online. Nobody is going to be shocked by seeing an apparent woman go into the wrong bathroom. There was no good reason to give you an account with a woman's name. There was no good reason for me to go along with pretending that you are a woman. I am a fool for not realizing it when you were flirting with that new guy who did not know your story and he left in embarrassment and anger once he discovered the truth. But I realize it now and I am not helping you to hide the truth any more.
I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you. The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
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Um, wow.
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Well said, Jayne. Very well said.
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Well, that's a first step in the non-modernistic direction, JayneK.
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I am going to make a prediction though: Vox will un-ban you.
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I am going to make a prediction though: Vox will un-ban you.
I don't expect that to happen.
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I am a fool for not realizing it when you were flirting with that new guy who did not know your story and he left in embarrassment and anger once he discovered the truth. But I realize it now and I am not helping you to hide the truth any more.
LOL WHAT?! :facepalm:
I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you. The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
Why not? "Bash" away. That place is filthy.
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You need to quit the entire internet for a time. I say this as a person who has had to quit things myself before, because they were bad for me, even if they were not objectively evil. I had to tell my boss I needed to quit going to trade shows because I found them to be an occasion of sin. Not everyone needs to boycott trade shows, of course, but I did. In the same way, you need to quit the internet.
I will be seeing my spiritual director this weekend and will probably be discussing this with him. What do you think are the signs that I ought to quit the Internet?
Don't quit the Internet.
Just stay away from the church of vox. It's like a right of passage to get banned from FE.
:applause:
Stick around here
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I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you. The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
Why not? "Bash" away. That place is filthy.
That's not the way I roll. :dancing:
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I am a fool for not realizing it when you were flirting with that new guy who did not know your story and he left in embarrassment and anger once he discovered the truth. But I realize it now and I am not helping you to hide the truth any more.
LOL WHAT?! :facepalm:
I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you. The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
Why not? "Bash" away. That place is filthy.
Whoa, seriously a Trad went to a Trad forum, was maybe hoping to find a nice trad woman to date and eventually marry and ends up flirting with a tranny?
:roll-laugh1:
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The drama llama approves of JaneK's threads.
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The drama llama approves of JaneK's threads.
:applause:
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How do you feel about the infiltration of FE Jayne ? Now that 95% of the trads are gone there, and tranny runs the place ?
I have been thinking about it and I think it would be reasonable to post the message that got me banned. After all, it was meant to be a public post even though it got deleted. The context was a thread on a quiz about "How feminine are you?":
"Clare Brigid" wrote:
Well, my Column A score was 13 and my Column B score was 26.
I have much to learn, but life is an adventure. :wench:
I responded:
It is all very well for Vox to say not to discuss transsɛҳuąƖity and just move on, but this poster (whom I refuse to call Clare any longer) keeps rubbing our noses in his decision to pretend to be a woman.
Impy you are not a woman and you are not going to learn how to be a woman, even if you do everything in Column B. You are a man and I should never have gone along with pretending that you are a woman. Back when you were a trad and had the assumptions that I do now, you knew that your decision to have sex reassignment surgery was wrong. So that is the judgment that I am going with. I am not buying that you have some new form of intersexed condition. There is no basis for this. You are a man with a psychological condition called transsɛҳuąƖism.
I was prepared to believe that your past mistake left you with the appearance of a woman and so you needed to live as a woman. But, even if that were true, your appearance is irrelevant online. Nobody is going to be shocked by seeing an apparent woman go into the wrong bathroom. There was no good reason to give you an account with a woman's name. There was no good reason for me to go along with pretending that you are a woman. I am a fool for not realizing it when you were flirting with that new guy who did not know your story and he left in embarrassment and anger once he discovered the truth. But I realize it now and I am not helping you to hide the truth any more.
I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you. The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
Well, at least you realized the sick dude is indeed milking it for all he can and tearing the forum apart.
He's an infiltrator who registered there to still up crap and vox has handed it to him on a silver platter. First time I've ever seen a troll win the approval of a forum owner.
And that ChrisTulsa who claims he's SSPX. I've never seen an SSPX supporter act like he does.
Stay out of that satanic cesspool.
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I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you.
Ok, you spoke the truth to her now drop her like the danger to your soul that she is and never look back. Do not consider her a friend any longer, rather, consider her (and that forum) to be one of some influence over you which has already proved to be able to sway you away from heaven and toward hell. We, as Catholics, are taught to run, not walk away from that.
If she is a true friend, then she will bend to the truth with you, not remain against you in this important matter.
The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
You probably realize this but just to expand on it a bit - it is not only just wrong, it is a mortal sin - and not just any mortal sin, it is one of the sins which cry to heaven for God to bring His vengeance for that sin and for the acceptance of that sin upon us.
THIS is what Vox is defending. By her defense of this mortal sin, she supports this mortal sin.
FE breeds the sin of 'Human respect weakness'. The whole queer saga is 'Human respect weakness' personified by the shepherd of that site. She is the leader there and she is very vocal about what she believes, she is the authority there and as such, she will have more to answer for, some people there might disagree to some degree with her, but over all, most of them tolerate, compromise and follow her scandalous lead for the sake of fellowship and don't even realize it.
"Shake the dust" and stay far away lest you get sucked back into that den of iniquity.
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Matthew,
For the sake of the integrity of your forum--please ban JayneK.
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I am a fool for not realizing it when you were flirting with that new guy who did not know your story and he left in embarrassment and anger once he discovered the truth. But I realize it now and I am not helping you to hide the truth any more.
LOL WHAT?! :facepalm:
I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you. The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
Why not? "Bash" away. That place is filthy.
Whoa, seriously a Trad went to a Trad forum, was maybe hoping to find a nice trad woman to date and eventually marry and ends up flirting with a tranny?
:roll-laugh1:
LoL. Was this in a thread? Link please. Very sad though if it was someone just beginning to explore tradition. Think about the impression he now has of trads if this was his first exposure.
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Matthew,
For the sake of the integrity of your forum--please ban JayneK.
Yeah, either that or simply lock the thread. 40 pages of utter nonsense. Jaynek is a jerk. I don't ask that this the woman be banned, simply that CI not continue to provide a platform upon which her narcissism can be nourished.
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Matthew,
For the sake of the integrity of your forum--please ban JayneK.
Yeah, either that or simply lock the thread. 40 pages of utter nonsense. Jaynek is a jerk. I don't ask that this the woman be banned, simply that CI not continue to provide a platform upon which her narcissism can be nourished.
This, please.
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I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you.
Ok, you spoke the truth to her now drop her like the danger to your soul that she is and never look back. Do not consider her a friend any longer, rather, consider her (and that forum) to be one of some influence over you which has already proved to be able to sway you away from heaven and toward hell. We, as Catholics, are taught to run, not walk away from that.
If she is a true friend, then she will bend to the truth with you, not remain against you in this important matter.
The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
You probably realize this but just to expand on it a bit - it is not only just wrong, it is a mortal sin - and not just any mortal sin, it is one of the sins which cry to heaven for God to bring His vengeance for that sin and for the acceptance of that sin upon us.
THIS is what Vox is defending. By her defense of this mortal sin, she supports this mortal sin.
FE breeds the sin of 'Human respect weakness'. The whole queer saga is 'Human respect weakness' personified by the shepherd of that site. She is the leader there and she is very vocal about what she believes, she is the authority there and as such, she will have more to answer for, some people there might disagree to some degree with her, but over all, most of them tolerate, compromise and follow her scandalous lead for the sake of fellowship and don't even realize it.
"Shake the dust" and stay far away lest you get sucked back into that den of iniquity.
No.
If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here. And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.
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I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you.
Ok, you spoke the truth to her now drop her like the danger to your soul that she is and never look back. Do not consider her a friend any longer, rather, consider her (and that forum) to be one of some influence over you which has already proved to be able to sway you away from heaven and toward hell. We, as Catholics, are taught to run, not walk away from that.
If she is a true friend, then she will bend to the truth with you, not remain against you in this important matter.
The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
You probably realize this but just to expand on it a bit - it is not only just wrong, it is a mortal sin - and not just any mortal sin, it is one of the sins which cry to heaven for God to bring His vengeance for that sin and for the acceptance of that sin upon us.
THIS is what Vox is defending. By her defense of this mortal sin, she supports this mortal sin.
FE breeds the sin of 'Human respect weakness'. The whole queer saga is 'Human respect weakness' personified by the shepherd of that site. She is the leader there and she is very vocal about what she believes, she is the authority there and as such, she will have more to answer for, some people there might disagree to some degree with her, but over all, most of them tolerate, compromise and follow her scandalous lead for the sake of fellowship and don't even realize it.
"Shake the dust" and stay far away lest you get sucked back into that den of iniquity.
No.
If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here. And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.
You're a batty as ever.
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I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you.
Ok, you spoke the truth to her now drop her like the danger to your soul that she is and never look back. Do not consider her a friend any longer, rather, consider her (and that forum) to be one of some influence over you which has already proved to be able to sway you away from heaven and toward hell. We, as Catholics, are taught to run, not walk away from that.
If she is a true friend, then she will bend to the truth with you, not remain against you in this important matter.
The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
You probably realize this but just to expand on it a bit - it is not only just wrong, it is a mortal sin - and not just any mortal sin, it is one of the sins which cry to heaven for God to bring His vengeance for that sin and for the acceptance of that sin upon us.
THIS is what Vox is defending. By her defense of this mortal sin, she supports this mortal sin.
FE breeds the sin of 'Human respect weakness'. The whole queer saga is 'Human respect weakness' personified by the shepherd of that site. She is the leader there and she is very vocal about what she believes, she is the authority there and as such, she will have more to answer for, some people there might disagree to some degree with her, but over all, most of them tolerate, compromise and follow her scandalous lead for the sake of fellowship and don't even realize it.
"Shake the dust" and stay far away lest you get sucked back into that den of iniquity.
No.
If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here. And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.
You're a batty as ever.
Of course she is. She is an old flower-child hippie who is too old to change her ways.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
All of this pomp & circuмstance bs formality was nice for the 6 wks that it lasted (which was about 6 times longer than I expected).
I am disappointed that such a drama pro didn't think of creating her own new welcome back thread though. That's an idea she can use when she soon decides to return to FE.
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No.
If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here. And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.
Jayne, what were you expecting when you began posting here again? Did you expect that the forum members here would not remind you that Vox is, and has been, fully complicit and supportive of Impy's pretending to be a woman, and supporting the cause of transsɛҳuąƖism in general? It doesn't do much good to realize that there's a problem with Impy, but not with Vox, who has allowed it to happen on a supposedly "Traditional" Catholic forum (which it isn't).
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No.
If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here. And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.
Jayne, what were you expecting when you began posting here again? Did you expect that the forum members here would not remind you that Vox is, and has been, fully complicit and supportive of Impy's pretending to be a woman, and supporting the cause of transsɛҳuąƖism in general? It doesn't do much good to realize that there's a problem with Impy, but not with Vox, who has allowed it to happen on a supposedly "Traditional" Catholic forum (which it isn't).
I have already told Vox what I think of her actions and I see no reason to discuss them with anyone else.
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No.
If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here. And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.
Jayne, what were you expecting when you began posting here again? Did you expect that the forum members here would not remind you that Vox is, and has been, fully complicit and supportive of Impy's pretending to be a woman, and supporting the cause of transsɛҳuąƖism in general? It doesn't do much good to realize that there's a problem with Impy, but not with Vox, who has allowed it to happen on a supposedly "Traditional" Catholic forum (which it isn't).
I have already told Vox what I think of her actions and I see no reason to discuss them with anyone else.
Then why do you even bring the subject up at all here?
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No.
If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here. And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.
Jayne, what were you expecting when you began posting here again? Did you expect that the forum members here would not remind you that Vox is, and has been, fully complicit and supportive of Impy's pretending to be a woman, and supporting the cause of transsɛҳuąƖism in general? It doesn't do much good to realize that there's a problem with Impy, but not with Vox, who has allowed it to happen on a supposedly "Traditional" Catholic forum (which it isn't).
I have already told Vox what I think of her actions and I see no reason to discuss them with anyone else.
Then why do you even bring the subject up at all here?
I was asked a direct question by St. Magnus: "How do you feel about the infiltration of FE Jayne ? Now that 95% of the trads are gone there, and tranny runs the place ? "
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I am going to make a prediction though: Vox will un-ban you.
I don't expect that to happen.
Why doesn't it show you as being banned on FE? I thought everyone who is banned gets it noted on their SN with a reason for the ban.
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I am going to make a prediction though: Vox will un-ban you.
I don't expect that to happen.
Why doesn't it show you as being banned on FE? I thought everyone who is banned gets it noted on their SN with a reason for the ban.
It doesn't always show it there, but I don't know why. She did mention it in a post though. She isn't trying to keep it a secret or anything.
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Jayne,
It appears that your comment, and all others connected to it, has been removed from FE. Vox is doing her best to remove all traces of the defense of tradition. She even moved that tranny thread to another part of the forum.
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Jayne,
It appears that your comment, and all others connected to it, has been removed from FE. Vox is doing her best to remove all traces of the defense of tradition. She even moved that tranny thread to another part of the forum.
Link please. Also I'm dying to see where the dude was flirting with Impy and got pissed when he found out.
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The link below only shows where Gimpy revealed how manly he is. All the arguments or whatever were there originally have been deleted. I didn't see the original comments so I can't confirm that they were ever there. As for the catfishing Gimpy/Clarelyqueer is accused of, I don't even know where that thread is located.
http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3461413.0.html
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Also I'm dying to see where the dude was flirting with Impy and got pissed when he found out.
It is in this thread: flirting (http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3459282.40.html) Other things are going on so you need to skin through the whole thing.
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"Daddy" went out in style:
So I've been thinking. I figured out pretty quickly this is a femcentric forum because most of the men who linger here are of the invertibrate, herd variety and the women tend to want to promote this behavior in men. I was amused to see only men imputing sexism to me. That's what tends to happen in a femcentric environment. The men who linger there frequently become weak enforcers of an effeminate worldview. But at first I thought it was just incidental, and I can put up with a certain amount of that. Now with this situation, however, I think the place is structurally hostile to men. Because it has this approved, structural deception that can only be maintained with the complicity of forum members. That's wrong and repulsive and indicates a heavy herd mentality, which is, like I said, repulsive when it's running the show, but also boring because it always tries to constrict intellectual play. That can make for some fun sparring at first, but it's ultimately tiresome. This specific misrepresentation of Impy/Clare stems from a false dualistic view of humans wherein we are spirits operating our bodies like pieces of equipment. But we aren't. We ARE our bodies, according to the Catholic Church. Our spirits and bodies are a unity. That's why life and personhood begin at conception. Anyway, I know enough about groupthink not to expect anything to change. So I'm just going to leave, which ought to please the herd. I might have to go search out the "crunchies" whoever they are. The way people talk about them here, they sound like they might just be ordinary men. I was fairly excited when I found Fisheaters, but now I'm bitterly disappointed.
Darn tootin'. Funny that someone who just joined can see this, but the usual suspects can't-- or perhaps they do, and just don't care; they might even like it.
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"Daddy" went out in style:
So I've been thinking. I figured out pretty quickly this is a femcentric forum because most of the men who linger here are of the invertibrate, herd variety and the women tend to want to promote this behavior in men. I was amused to see only men imputing sexism to me. That's what tends to happen in a femcentric environment. The men who linger there frequently become weak enforcers of an effeminate worldview. But at first I thought it was just incidental, and I can put up with a certain amount of that. Now with this situation, however, I think the place is structurally hostile to men. Because it has this approved, structural deception that can only be maintained with the complicity of forum members. That's wrong and repulsive and indicates a heavy herd mentality, which is, like I said, repulsive when it's running the show, but also boring because it always tries to constrict intellectual play. That can make for some fun sparring at first, but it's ultimately tiresome. This specific misrepresentation of Impy/Clare stems from a false dualistic view of humans wherein we are spirits operating our bodies like pieces of equipment. But we aren't. We ARE our bodies, according to the Catholic Church. Our spirits and bodies are a unity. That's why life and personhood begin at conception. Anyway, I know enough about groupthink not to expect anything to change. So I'm just going to leave, which ought to please the herd. I might have to go search out the "crunchies" whoever they are. The way people talk about them here, they sound like they might just be ordinary men. I was fairly excited when I found Fisheaters, but now I'm bitterly disappointed.
Darn tootin'. Funny that someone who just joined can see this, but the usual suspects can't-- or perhaps they do, and just don't care; they might even like it.
For what it's worth I was/am ashamed of my behaviour in that thread. I discussed it further with "Daddy" in PM. He was very angry with me, but later he forgave me.
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"Daddy" went out in style:
So I've been thinking. I figured out pretty quickly this is a femcentric forum because most of the men who linger here are of the invertibrate, herd variety and the women tend to want to promote this behavior in men. I was amused to see only men imputing sexism to me. That's what tends to happen in a femcentric environment. The men who linger there frequently become weak enforcers of an effeminate worldview. But at first I thought it was just incidental, and I can put up with a certain amount of that. Now with this situation, however, I think the place is structurally hostile to men. Because it has this approved, structural deception that can only be maintained with the complicity of forum members. That's wrong and repulsive and indicates a heavy herd mentality, which is, like I said, repulsive when it's running the show, but also boring because it always tries to constrict intellectual play. That can make for some fun sparring at first, but it's ultimately tiresome. This specific misrepresentation of Impy/Clare stems from a false dualistic view of humans wherein we are spirits operating our bodies like pieces of equipment. But we aren't. We ARE our bodies, according to the Catholic Church. Our spirits and bodies are a unity. That's why life and personhood begin at conception. Anyway, I know enough about groupthink not to expect anything to change. So I'm just going to leave, which ought to please the herd. I might have to go search out the "crunchies" whoever they are. The way people talk about them here, they sound like they might just be ordinary men. I was fairly excited when I found Fisheaters, but now I'm bitterly disappointed.
Darn tootin'. Funny that someone who just joined can see this, but the usual suspects can't-- or perhaps they do, and just don't care; they might even like it.
Wait, so all of this went on and Vox did nothing?
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Wait, so all of this went on and Vox did nothing?
She might not have known. I knew and I did nothing. I didn't warn "Daddy" and I did not report it to the moderator.
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"Daddy" went out in style:
So I've been thinking. I figured out pretty quickly this is a femcentric forum because most of the men who linger here are of the invertibrate, herd variety and the women tend to want to promote this behavior in men. I was amused to see only men imputing sexism to me. That's what tends to happen in a femcentric environment. The men who linger there frequently become weak enforcers of an effeminate worldview. But at first I thought it was just incidental, and I can put up with a certain amount of that. Now with this situation, however, I think the place is structurally hostile to men. Because it has this approved, structural deception that can only be maintained with the complicity of forum members. That's wrong and repulsive and indicates a heavy herd mentality, which is, like I said, repulsive when it's running the show, but also boring because it always tries to constrict intellectual play. That can make for some fun sparring at first, but it's ultimately tiresome. This specific misrepresentation of Impy/Clare stems from a false dualistic view of humans wherein we are spirits operating our bodies like pieces of equipment. But we aren't. We ARE our bodies, according to the Catholic Church. Our spirits and bodies are a unity. That's why life and personhood begin at conception. Anyway, I know enough about groupthink not to expect anything to change. So I'm just going to leave, which ought to please the herd. I might have to go search out the "crunchies" whoever they are. The way people talk about them here, they sound like they might just be ordinary men. I was fairly excited when I found Fisheaters, but now I'm bitterly disappointed.
Darn tootin'. Funny that someone who just joined can see this, but the usual suspects can't-- or perhaps they do, and just don't care; they might even like it.
That's an impressive post. Must be a pretty insightful guy if he picked up on that so quickly. That or I got too used to the herd. Seriously, it took me long enough...
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"Daddy" went out in style:
So I've been thinking. I figured out pretty quickly this is a femcentric forum because most of the men who linger here are of the invertibrate, herd variety and the women tend to want to promote this behavior in men. I was amused to see only men imputing sexism to me. That's what tends to happen in a femcentric environment. The men who linger there frequently become weak enforcers of an effeminate worldview. But at first I thought it was just incidental, and I can put up with a certain amount of that. Now with this situation, however, I think the place is structurally hostile to men. Because it has this approved, structural deception that can only be maintained with the complicity of forum members. That's wrong and repulsive and indicates a heavy herd mentality, which is, like I said, repulsive when it's running the show, but also boring because it always tries to constrict intellectual play. That can make for some fun sparring at first, but it's ultimately tiresome. This specific misrepresentation of Impy/Clare stems from a false dualistic view of humans wherein we are spirits operating our bodies like pieces of equipment. But we aren't. We ARE our bodies, according to the Catholic Church. Our spirits and bodies are a unity. That's why life and personhood begin at conception. Anyway, I know enough about groupthink not to expect anything to change. So I'm just going to leave, which ought to please the herd. I might have to go search out the "crunchies" whoever they are. The way people talk about them here, they sound like they might just be ordinary men. I was fairly excited when I found Fisheaters, but now I'm bitterly disappointed.
Darn tootin'. Funny that someone who just joined can see this, but the usual suspects can't-- or perhaps they do, and just don't care; they might even like it.
Good post. He should come here.
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I wish to retract my first post in this thread. At the time I wrote it, I had been receiving PMs from someone trying to persuade me to quit CI. I now question his influence on me and the decisions that I made under his influence.
Whoever persuaded Jayne to leave--can we just go ahead and canonize him while he is still alive?
I took it that the thing about the poor guy unbeknownstly flirting with Impy was recent and helped you decide that FE is the cesspool rather than CI as you so publicly and dramatically announced some mere 6 weeks ago. But I see that all of that fαɢɢօtry nonsense was back in June while you were vigorously defending Impy & Vox.
JayneK -- "It is in this thread: flirting Other things are going on so you need to skin through the whole thing."
I think both you and the Internet would be better off if you would take a break from the Internet.
Or if you can't break away from the internet, there's another FE reject that has is own blog with a readership of one. Perhaps you could double his readership for him. He is LaramieHirsch and he frequently mentions his blog in his posts so the link should be easy to find. I suspect Google has it around position 900,000 if you want to simply google Hirsch files blog. Everybody was bitching about ggreg for awhile. But you and Hirsch make ggreg look like trad of the year.
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I wish to retract my first post in this thread. At the time I wrote it, I had been receiving PMs from someone trying to persuade me to quit CI. I now question his influence on me and the decisions that I made under his influence.
Whoever persuaded Jayne to leave--can we just go ahead and canonize him while he is still alive?
I took it that the thing about the poor guy unbeknownstly flirting with Impy was recent and helped you decide that FE is the cesspool rather than CI as you so publicly and dramatically announced some mere 6 weeks ago. But I see that all of that fαɢɢօtry nonsense was back in June while you were vigorously defending Impy & Vox.
The person who was persuading me to leave CI was Impy. Do you still want to canonize him?
Yes, that thread was back in June. That's why I wrote in my deleted FE post, "I am a fool for not realizing it when you were flirting with that new guy who did not know your story and he left in embarrassment and anger once he discovered the truth." I have no excuse for not getting it then. That thread was disgusting and disturbing and I knew it.
The major factor in me finally coming to my senses was reading an article on Church teaching on transsɛҳuąƖity from a canon law perspective. I could see the big gap between what it said and what was being said at FE. Or perhaps it was people's prayers for me.
I have not made up my mind about my future involvement in CI. I just had to come back to retract this thread because I was wrong.
I am wondering under what conditions, if any, people would be comfortable with having me post here. I'll go away if that is what most of you want.
:sign-surrender:
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I am all the more disturbed that Impy had that kind of influence over you as recent as (and presumably more recently than) merely 6 weeks ago.
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How do you feel about the infiltration of FE Jayne ? Now that 95% of the trads are gone there, and tranny runs the place ?
I have been thinking about it and I think it would be reasonable to post the message that got me banned. After all, it was meant to be a public post even though it got deleted. The context was a thread on a quiz about "How feminine are you?":
"Clare Brigid" wrote:
Well, my Column A score was 13 and my Column B score was 26.
I have much to learn, but life is an adventure. :wench:
I responded:
It is all very well for Vox to say not to discuss transsɛҳuąƖity and just move on, but this poster (whom I refuse to call Clare any longer) keeps rubbing our noses in his decision to pretend to be a woman.
Impy you are not a woman and you are not going to learn how to be a woman, even if you do everything in Column B. You are a man and I should never have gone along with pretending that you are a woman. Back when you were a trad and had the assumptions that I do now, you knew that your decision to have sex reassignment surgery was wrong. So that is the judgment that I am going with. I am not buying that you have some new form of intersexed condition. There is no basis for this. You are a man with a psychological condition called transsɛҳuąƖism.
I was prepared to believe that your past mistake left you with the appearance of a woman and so you needed to live as a woman. But, even if that were true, your appearance is irrelevant online. Nobody is going to be shocked by seeing an apparent woman go into the wrong bathroom. There was no good reason to give you an account with a woman's name. There was no good reason for me to go along with pretending that you are a woman. I am a fool for not realizing it when you were flirting with that new guy who did not know your story and he left in embarrassment and anger once he discovered the truth. But I realize it now and I am not helping you to hide the truth any more.
I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you. The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
I can't, and I won't criticize a good move, or a step in the right direction.
Regarding Vox --
I think there's no reason to "trash" Vox anyhow. The situation with Impy, etc. has been discussed here before, and I don't think it would do any good to rehash that whole saga.
Personally, I prefer to stick to the cold facts and avoid getting personal as much as possible. The fact is that Vox is wrong; the reasons why should even be made public. But what good does calling names do anyhow?
I believe what's more important is to inform the "forum-going public" about the true Catholic Church teaching on the matter; why Vox is wrong, the truth about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and transsɛҳuąƖism, etc. Even general problems with the Fisheaters forum can be aired, as long as one stays close to the evidence.
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Jayne,
I am newer here but I have been following CI for awhile; not as long as FE, though. I think getting banned from there is the best thing to happen to anyone. After a bit of using the ol noggin, who would not be grateful that they were banned from hell? Only an idiot would fight to regain their place in the inferno. I do not see a problem with your involvement here but there are people that reject to it for some strong reasons...reasons that you are already aware of. I'm sure the majority would welcome you back if you were sincere and left the theatrics in the roon furtherest from your computer.
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I didn't see that exchange with Daddy and Impy when it happened. That's really...messed up.
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I am all the more disturbed that Impy had that kind of influence over you as recent as (and presumably more recently than) merely 6 weeks ago.
You are right to be disturbed. So am I.
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Personally, I prefer to stick to the cold facts and avoid getting personal as much as possible. The fact is that Vox is wrong; the reasons why should even be made public. But what good does calling names do anyhow?
I believe what's more important is to inform the "forum-going public" about the true Catholic Church teaching on the matter; why Vox is wrong, the truth about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and transsɛҳuąƖism, etc. Even general problems with the Fisheaters forum can be aired, as long as one stays close to the evidence.
I think this is a very reasonable approach. Thank you for stating it so clearly.
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I do not see a problem with your involvement here but there are people that reject to it for some strong reasons...reasons that you are already aware of. I'm sure the majority would welcome you back if you were sincere and left the theatrics in the roon furtherest from your computer.
I am not really sure what the reasons are for the strong feelings against me. I've been thinking of asking, but I'm afraid that would come across as too "theatrical".
I get that people don't want an "all about me" thread, but I need help understanding what is expected from me here.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.
Jayne, why are you still here? ? Have you nowhere else to go?
I'm beginning to think you really are a the drama damsel in distress actress that has been observed by some.
:baby:
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I get that people don't want an "all about me" thread, but I need help understanding what is expected from me here.
Start with reading Pascendi:
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10pasce.htm
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I do not see a problem with your involvement here but there are people that reject to it for some strong reasons...reasons that you are already aware of. I'm sure the majority would welcome you back if you were sincere and left the theatrics in the roon furtherest from your computer.
I am not really sure what the reasons are for the strong feelings against me. I've been thinking of asking, but I'm afraid that would come across as too "theatrical".
I get that people don't want an "all about me" thread, but I need help understanding what is expected from me here.
I, for one, hope that you'll stay here, Jayne. I'm going to try to stay away from the FE threads here, since I've said all that I have to say about it, and Matthew has summed up the situation well.
A word of advice for participating on this forum (since I also tend to be contentious). When you see something that someone has wrote that bothers you here - just ignore it, if you can. It doesn't bother me anymore when others are contentious, but I'm trying to learn to be less so.
Since this forum really represents all trad views, things are allowed to be discussed here which aren't allowed elsewhere. I like this approach, even though I may disagree with some of the views.
It is also a good idea to read Pascendi as has been posted here already. It's a good reminder of how the modernists and liberals think.
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Just one more thing to add, Jayne. Hopefully this won't sound lame, but Cath Info is a good place for know-it-all women (like us) to learn to be more humble, and to realize that we aren't smarter than the trad men around us. Not an easy lesson to learn, but much needed! God bless!
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Just one more thing to add, Jayne. Hopefully this won't sound lame, but Cath Info is a good place for know-it-all women (like us) to learn to be more humble, and to realize that we aren't smarter than the trad men around us. Not an easy lesson to learn, but much needed! God bless!
It does not sound lame. I would like to learn that. Thank you for your kindness. I will respond to the other posts when I finish reading Pascendi.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.
Jayne, why are you still here? ? Have you nowhere else to go?
I am here to eat my words. I was wrong and that is what I owe you all in justice.
I will not stay if most people object to me being here.
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I get that people don't want an "all about me" thread, but I need help understanding what is expected from me here.
Start with reading Pascendi:
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius10/p10pasce.htm
Thank you. I think I read it a long time ago, but I read it again today. I can see there is Modernism is in the Church. I thought the comment about how it leads to atheism was prophetic.
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I do not see a problem with your involvement here but there are people that reject to it for some strong reasons...reasons that you are already aware of. I'm sure the majority would welcome you back if you were sincere and left the theatrics in the roon furtherest from your computer.
I am not really sure what the reasons are for the strong feelings against me. I've been thinking of asking, but I'm afraid that would come across as too "theatrical".
I get that people don't want an "all about me" thread, but I need help understanding what is expected from me here.
I, for one, hope that you'll stay here, Jayne. I'm going to try to stay away from the FE threads here, since I've said all that I have to say about it, and Matthew has summed up the situation well.
A word of advice for participating on this forum (since I also tend to be contentious). When you see something that someone has wrote that bothers you here - just ignore it, if you can. It doesn't bother me anymore when others are contentious, but I'm trying to learn to be less so.
Since this forum really represents all trad views, things are allowed to be discussed here which aren't allowed elsewhere. I like this approach, even though I may disagree with some of the views.
It is also a good idea to read Pascendi as has been posted here already. It's a good reminder of how the modernists and liberals think.
Thank you, Meg. You have good cause not to be kind to me, so I appreciate your kindness all the more. I will take your advice to heart. I did just read Pascendi and I see what you mean.
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There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
Because I wish to be publicly disassociated from this forum.
Jayne, why are you still here? ? Have you nowhere else to go?
I am here to eat my words. I was wrong and that is what I owe you all in justice.
I will not stay if most people object to me being here.
JayneK has gone from considering Impy a he, it, she, it, she, he, and now claims to have broke free of the stronghold that Impy's charming charismatic good natured self posed to her free will, autonomous thinking mechanisms (why do I envision three hamsters spinning two cogs about the size of a nickel).
She freely, and rightfully ashamedly, admits that this pervert influenced her to apparently believe that all of the homo/tranny paganism (worse than heresy IMO) feminist domination (I don't mean in a way that may excite Impy) was acceptable, and to walk away from CI, feigning to shake the dust from her feet, and getting snarky with us and acting like a big meanie on her way out, speaking thusly about us:
There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Jayne could possibly benefit from being here if she doesn't proceed bullheadedly thinking that the 60s she grew up in and the 70s NO that she entered are relevant for anything more than to demonstrate the errors of those times and some good southern rock. Realize that we don't value "everybody getting along" like a bunch of hippie dope smokers communing for their grandest objective in life, scoring more weed--the righteousness of true Catholicism & Truth doesn't spin off of nor bow to what is particularly popular in a given day, political correctness, nor who may be offended.
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What people are failing to realise is that the *normal* ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is self-centered, and narcissistic. Now, a *transgender* person magnifies these characteristics and when you combine this sickness with a person who is a lawyer there is strong potential for the formation of a Doomsday Drag Queen Genital Mutilating cult. I no longer find it surprising at all that Gimpy was able to brainwash the people that he did. The one thing that I find most disgusting on VOX'S part is that she allowed Gimpy to flirt with a straight man. Vox is ok with Gimpy moving his filthy pervert lifestyle from those weirdo fetish homo video raping sites over to FE. That is reason alone for FE to be closed down.
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What people are failing to realise is that the *normal* ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is self-centered, and narcissistic. Now, a *transgender* person magnifies these characteristics and when you combine this sickness with a person who is a lawyer there is strong potential for the formation of a Doomsday Drag Queen Genital Mutilating cult. I no longer find it surprising at all that Gimpy was able to brainwash the people that he did. The one thing that I find most disgusting on VOX'S part is that she allowed Gimpy to flirt with a straight man. Vox is ok with Gimpy moving his filthy pervert lifestyle from those weirdo fetish homo video raping sites over to FE. That is reason alone for FE to be closed down.
This post is full of excellent points. "[T]he *normal* ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is self-centered, and narcissistic." This is very true and this is precisely the reason that I believe most ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ by choice. They crave the attention that comes their way from that choice.
A lot (probably most) normal people argue that homos wouldn't do that because the negativity outweighs the attention crave. But homos have an unhealthy imbalanced insatiable craving for attention--negative or positive. Now I am not saying that this explains every single one of them. But in what I have observed, it explains many more than it does not.
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I'm not sure if this has been mentioned here yet, but it seems that Fisheaters is now being subject to a mental breakdown and purge on the part of its owner (that's the charitable reading). The new policy at FE bans "rad-trads" and says to them, "SHAME on you!" This womanish and fideistic stuff is truly bizarre and disgusting. It seems like a detour through the diabolically twisted imagination of most feminists and/or hysterical women who reject the natural order on account of indulgence in self-serving frenzy. Please read it for yourself if it would at all interest you. Here is the new message before entering the forum :
PLEASE NOTE that "rad trads" are not welcome to post here any longer. I'd allowed pretty much anyone to post at this forum, and I shouldn't have, because "rad trads" turn people away from the Faith, they wound the Sacred Heart, they undo the work I am trying to do to bring souls to Christ and His Church, and they have given my years and years of very hard work a bad name, making the name "FishEaters" something too many people associate with them and their nasty attitudes instead of my work and my mission. They've also been a pain in my neck for years. I'm done with it.
If you're a (pseudo-) trad who: is nasty, bitter, angry, disrespectful of the Holy Father, judgmental, rigorist, legalistic, a jerk toward ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, a hater of Jєωιѕн people, racist, a knee-jerk reactionary, calls people heretics if they disagree with you, lacks a sense of humor, is prudish, doesn't know the difference between "modern" and "modernist" or otherwise throws around the word "modernist" without understanding its meaning, thinks that "ideas aren't for girls," is unwilling to give people the beneft of the doubt and treat people with charity, loves to gossip, treats the Faith like a mere philosphy rather than a gift from God, treats having faith like something you accomplished rather than as a supernatural gift, is prone to allowing your idea of "the perfect" to be the enemy of the good, can't have a discussion without personalizing things and engaging in fallacious ad hominems, think it's "SSPX or bust!", etc., then GO AWAY. This place is NOT for you. This is a place for people who are traditional Catholics who truly love Our Lord and are allowing Him to change their hearts.
And here is a truly insane and rather disturbing post on the forum itself that says most of the same things but -- how does one say... ? -- with more estrogen, misplaced emotive guilting, and mantra-like declarations/incantations :
SHAME on you, rad-trads, you dens of vipers, you whitewashed sepulchres, you Pharisees! SHAME on you! LOOK on His Holy Face and think of what you've done with your ego-driven theological debates, your turning the Faith into a philosophy, your lack of compassion for your fellow human beings, your apparent delight at the idea of souls burning in Hell, your really-not-joking jokes about "roasting heretics," your disgusting treatment of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, your racial animosity (some of you), your lies about me and Quis and Jayne and Clare and whoever else is on your little hate-list du jour, your constant twisting of my words to make you feel OK about engaging in gossip, your chasing souls away from Christ and from Tradition with your bitterness, your trying to destroy me and this apostolate, your slander, your angry, nasty talk about the Holy Father (I'm sure that line will get twisted into "Vox doesn't allow anyone to criticize the Pope!" I know how you work, you rad-trads! I've watched you for 15 years. I KNOW you.). LOOK at Him and beg forgiveness; He WILL give it to you if you're sincere. HE, not YOU, is the Judge.
This post is attended by an image of Our Lord. I was looking for Casual Frank and European political news, and instead it seems like I took a wrong turn and ended up traversing through... this. :barf:
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I would advise this "Vox" person to read True Devotion to Our Lady. She obviously needs it, as do most people anyway, but especially her.
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Thanks for posting that, PereJoseph!
That Vox character is one crazy cat! I could do a commentary line by line and maybe I will but - wowza - talk about estrogen overdose!!!! It's an example of emotion on steroids while logic is being starved of oxygen.
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I've been battling whether or not to point something out since I saw her admit to being bipolar or manic but there is such a thing as hyper religiosity and it seems like we might be getting more and more into an episode. The unusual intensity of emotion that I had previously chalked up to being an emotional woman with an emotional temperament might actually be a bit more involved. I recently saw an exchange between her and Roger Buck (I think it was) about "her work" and it's greatness that was sappy to an almost creepy level. I cannot imagine the saints who accomplished great things for God fawning over themselves like that. Now this. I've been very worried for her and I know that if she wants to attribute ill-will to my worry she will, there's nothing I can do about that except to say again that there is none. I feel it in my heart and wish I could make everything ok. However, for anyone else, just be aware that there could be a lot more to the story. I obviously have no way of knowing for sure, I am just putting the awareness out there. That's a big part of why I think stepping away from the forum would ultimately be for the best for her. It seems like it's a trigger for a lot of irrational ranting. Pile that on top of mental illness and it's just not a good situation.
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Post (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26983&min=10#p1)
Best thread I've seen in weeks.
I'm not sure what your expectations were, but perhaps now you have
realized how wrong you could be.
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Post (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=26983&min=10#p3)
There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience. I do not want my name associated with it.
What is the procedure to have my membership ended? Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.
God bless you all.
Why not PM Matthew instead of opening a public thread?
She's a drama queen.
And yes this is the best thread in a while!
The best thread in a while? You've got to be kidding.
This thread stinks.
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What people are failing to realise is that the *normal* ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ is self-centered, and narcissistic. Now, a *transgender* person magnifies these characteristics and when you combine this sickness with a person who is a lawyer there is strong potential for the formation of a Doomsday Drag Queen Genital Mutilating cult. I no longer find it surprising at all that Gimpy was able to brainwash the people that he did. The one thing that I find most disgusting on VOX'S part is that she allowed Gimpy to flirt with a straight man. Vox is ok with Gimpy moving his filthy pervert lifestyle from those weirdo fetish homo video raping sites over to FE. That is reason alone for FE to be closed down.
This entire thread is self-centered, narcissistic and *transgender* -- get real.
It ought to be deleted wholesale.
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I will be seeing my spiritual director this weekend and will probably be discussing this with him. What do you think are the signs that I ought to quit the Internet?
I'd tell him how strongly you identify with the forums you post on, how involved you are in the conflicts that occur there, the degree that you think and worry about these conflicts when you are not on the internet, and the degree to which people you meet and interact with online affect you and how seriously you take their opinions.
Based on my observations, I'd think you'd answer those questions:
A lot
Seriously
I suspect more than a little
Apparently quite seriously
If you think I'm right in my estimations, then you might say
"Father, I identify very strongly with the forums I post on, to the point of defending them, apologizing for them,and evangelizing for them, even though I do not own them and have no say in how they are run. Incidentally, they are run by lay people.
I get very involved in the conflicts that occur on these forums, and I respond in emotional ways because as I said, I am very personally invested in these forums.
I find that I think and worry about the online conflicts when I am not on the internet at all.
Also, recently, I received some bad advice from a person I interact with on the internet, and I found that I was taking this advice very seriously even though now, I question the wisdom of it."
Any spiritual adviser worth his salt should say, at that point "Jayne, perhaps the internet and these conflicts are becoming a temptation for you."
You can decide if my inferences from my observations are true. If not, then by all means, join in the fray. In any case, you are wise, wise, wise to take it to your director. Best of luck and God Bless.
Thank you again for your advice. I did discuss this with my spiritual adviser. He has told me to fast from forums on Fridays and pay attention to how I react to being away from them for a day. I expect we will discuss this further the next time I see him.
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JayneK,
Why not start a new thread and discuss which spiritual book you are currently reading?
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Thank you again for your advice. I did discuss this with my spiritual adviser. He has told me to fast from forums on Fridays and pay attention to how I react to being away from them for a day. I expect we will discuss this further the next time I see him.
Sounds like you have a good spiritual director. I think I'll try the same thing - fast from forums on Fridays, and see what my reaction is. It's a really good idea, and thanks for posting it.
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JayneK,
Why not start a new thread and discuss which spiritual book you are currently reading?
Maybe some day. I don't think people are ready for me to start threads yet. I should spend some time showing that I know how to behave myself first. I plan to be mainly posting about cooking and women's topics for a while.
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Thank you again for your advice. I did discuss this with my spiritual adviser. He has told me to fast from forums on Fridays and pay attention to how I react to being away from them for a day. I expect we will discuss this further the next time I see him.
Sounds like you have a good spiritual director. I think I'll try the same thing - fast from forums on Fridays, and see what my reaction is. It's a really good idea, and thanks for posting it.
I read this recently and renewed my commitment to take little breaks now and then.
The problem—for me—is not time spent posting. It’s reading something and then trying to walk away from it and having it live in my brain for hours (or days). Where is the fine line between being educated and engaged and distracted and disturbed? I've been trying to step away from social media entirely on the weekends. On Sunday, I logged into Facebook briefly to wish Michael a happy birthday. I ended up clicking on just one link to just one article. But that one article so bothered me that I stewed on it all day. It still bothers me. Far better, I think to be a little less informed and a lot more peaceful?
(from elizabethfoss.com)
I don't mind having something brewing in my head all day, but I can't operate like that constantly, so if I have a few days where I've been preoccupied with things I've read online, I'll take a few days off or save certain articles (and CathInfo threads) for later.
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Thank you again for your advice. I did discuss this with my spiritual adviser. He has told me to fast from forums on Fridays and pay attention to how I react to being away from them for a day. I expect we will discuss this further the next time I see him.
Sounds like you have a good spiritual director. I think I'll try the same thing - fast from forums on Fridays, and see what my reaction is. It's a really good idea, and thanks for posting it.
I read this recently and renewed my commitment to take little breaks now and then.
The problem—for me—is not time spent posting. It’s reading something and then trying to walk away from it and having it live in my brain for hours (or days). Where is the fine line between being educated and engaged and distracted and disturbed? I've been trying to step away from social media entirely on the weekends. On Sunday, I logged into Facebook briefly to wish Michael a happy birthday. I ended up clicking on just one link to just one article. But that one article so bothered me that I stewed on it all day. It still bothers me. Far better, I think to be a little less informed and a lot more peaceful?
(from elizabethfoss.com)
I don't mind having something brewing in my head all day, but I can't operate like that constantly, so if I have a few days where I've been preoccupied with things I've read online, I'll take a few days off or save certain articles (and CathInfo threads) for later.
Good advice. You're right about being preoccupied with things that have been read online. And the quote from the elizabethfoss site is good....especially the part, "Far better, I think to be a little less informed and a lot more peaceful." I"m going to keep that in mind.
I always appreciate your good insight and mature approach, Mater.
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I always appreciate your good insight and mature approach, Mater.
This.
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Thank you again for your advice. I did discuss this with my spiritual adviser. He has told me to fast from forums on Fridays and pay attention to how I react to being away from them for a day. I expect we will discuss this further the next time I see him.
No problem. Glad I could help.
BTW, just for fun today, I decided to see if I could get banned from CAF with just one post. Was no problem. I just posted one sentence about the problem of reconciling Darwinism with doctrine concerning the Fall and bam, I was banned without even a warning. I think tomorrow I'll try to see if I can get re-banned from Vox-land with just one sentence. This is a fun game.
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Thank you again for your advice. I did discuss this with my spiritual adviser. He has told me to fast from forums on Fridays and pay attention to how I react to being away from them for a day. I expect we will discuss this further the next time I see him.
No problem. Glad I could help.
BTW, just for fun today, I decided to see if I could get banned from CAF with just one post. Was no problem. I just posted one sentence about the problem of reconciling Darwinism with doctrine concerning the Fall and bam, I was banned without even a warning. I think tomorrow I'll try to see if I can get re-banned from Vox-land with just one sentence. This is a fun game.
lol
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I am a fool for not realizing it when you were flirting with that new guy who did not know your story and he left in embarrassment and anger once he discovered the truth. But I realize it now and I am not helping you to hide the truth any more.
LOL WHAT?! :facepalm:
I am sorry, Vox. If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums. I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you. The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.
Why not? "Bash" away. That place is filthy.
Whoa, seriously a Trad went to a Trad forum, was maybe hoping to find a nice trad woman to date and eventually marry and ends up flirting with a tranny?
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Not funny at all. Just outrageous, disgraceful, and awfully sad.
Imagine the shame and disillusionment.
I hope that guy's all right, and has stuck with the Faith.
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Also I'm dying to see where the dude was flirting with Impy and got pissed when he found out.
It is in this thread: flirting (http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3459282.40.html) Other things are going on so you need to skin through the whole thing.
OHCA, et.al. are apparently seduced into looking at trash to satisfy some merciless and prurient interests with the active assistance of the very person they have lambasted as one who willfully misleads.
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OHCA, et.al. are apparently seduced into looking at trash to satisfy some merciless and prurient interests with the active assistance of the very person they have lambasted as one who willfully misleads.
I can't say anything about people's motives for wanting to see the thread. My reason for giving the link was so that nobody would have to take my word for it. People could see for themselves the situation that I had described.
I agree with you completely that it was disgraceful, outrageous and sad. As I already said, I am deeply ashamed that I was complicit in this deception. If it is any consolation, "Daddy" thoroughly chastised me in PM as I deserved.
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This lady coming to JayneK's defense might point to something fairly obvious that I don't think anyone has yet considered - that the complaints of the Charity Police are very frequently (around here at least) lobbed by women at men...
Is it simply a matter of the innate differences between the sexes clashing during online discourse? Women are emotional creatures whose capacity for dispassionate, rational argumentation is limited by their very nature. And with good reason - disputation and debate are inherently masculine pursuits. I've known more than a few Catholic women who are otherwise doctrinally sound who will bristle at an assertion of Catholic truth if it comes across as "mean" or "harsh" and will then foolishly conflate an agressive masculine style with a "lack of charity."
Look at FE. There's a textbook example of the kind of madness that will ensue when a woman is not only engaged in disputation, but is actually in charge of the forum in which it plays out.
"Let the woman learn in silence, with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed; then Eve. And Adam was not seduced; but the woman being seduced, was in the transgression." 1 Timothy 2:11-15
Bumpin' a blast from the past. :laugh1: Truth.