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Offline Cantarella

Re: it is hard for a rich man to get into Heaven
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2017, 10:55:15 PM »
I am pretty sure that the "rich man" of this biblical passage refers to a man who puts all his confidence in his material goods, instead of God. He therefore, forsakes his Faith and duty to God, in having an immoderate pursuit of earthly treasures.

It is this abandonment of God what the scripture condemns. Not the money itself. There is nothing wrong with material richness in itself. It is the unrestrained chasing of it at the expense of the Faith (even so far as committing sin for it), which is condemned. There are many saints who were rich and royal, so we know for a fact that the rich can make it to Heaven, also. 
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Offline Nadir

Re: it is hard for a rich man to get into Heaven
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2017, 02:44:03 AM »
Matthew 7:21:  
Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.
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Luke 13:24  
Strive to enter by the narrow gate; for many, I say to you, shall seek to enter, and shall not be able.
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Actually neither of these verses which you have referenced says anything about riches, but rather to doing the Will of God.
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: it is hard for a rich man to get into Heaven
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2017, 04:52:18 AM »
I used to work for a rich man, he wasn't very rich when I first met him, he had maybe a million give or take a few hundred thousand. By the time I left 6 years later, his business grew and he was worth +20 million. I garnered a very, very clear understanding of the evil Our Lord speaks of about the love of money from knowing him and why Our Lord taught that a rich man shall hardly enter the kingdom of heaven, and that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven, and the story of Lazarus and the rich man.

I think the love of money is the real or initial culprit. Apparently, very few can strive for heaven once they love money, that's certainly the way it worked for the guy I knew. 

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: it is hard for a rich man to get into Heaven
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2017, 09:28:44 AM »
Quote from: Cantarella on December 05, 2017, 10:55:15 PM
I am pretty sure that the "rich man" of this biblical passage refers to a man who puts all his confidence in his material goods, instead of God. He therefore, forsakes his Faith and duty to God, in having an immoderate pursuit of earthly treasures.

It is this abandonment of God what the scripture condemns. Not the money itself. There is nothing wrong with material richness in itself. It is the unrestrained chasing of it at the expense of the Faith (even so far as committing sin for it), which is condemned. There are many saints who were rich and royal, so we know for a fact that the rich can make it to Heaven, also.

Well, in the story, the man kept the commandments and did good ... but Our Lord pointed out the one thing lacking.  Yes, the rich CAN make it to heaven ... but for the vast majority riches put their salvation at risk or, at the very least, hinder them from a greater degree of perfection.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: it is hard for a rich man to get into Heaven
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2017, 09:31:07 AM »
Quote from: Nadir on December 05, 2017, 09:01:09 PM
A poor man who is obsessed with riches.

Well, that's why Our Lord used the term poor in spirit.  You have to have the spirit of poverty, which most cannot do if they live with actual riches ... whereas as some of those without riches still lust after them and therefore are not poor in spirit.  Poverty in Spirit revers to a lack of ATTACHMENT to riches.  Some rich people can be unattached to them, whereas some poor people can be attached to them.
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