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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2019, 06:25:23 PM »
Quote from: Banezian on January 19, 2019, 04:33:59 PM
You have zero basis for calling me a non-Catholic

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Banezian wrote: - I would absolutely marry a Traditional Orthodox or a Traditional Protestant(Anglican/Lutheran) before I thought about marrying an N. O Catholic. - I’m closer to traditional Orth9dox than I am to any Novus Ordo.

Novus Ordo's are Catholic, while Anglicans, Lutherans, Eastern Orthodox are heretics and schismatics. You are not Catholic and your every word further confirms it. Keep writing, you may just convince yourself of what I am pointing out to you.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #46 on: January 19, 2019, 06:53:02 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on January 19, 2019, 06:25:23 PM
Novus Ordo's are Catholic, while Anglicans, Lutherans, Eastern Orthodox are heretics and schismatics. You are not Catholic and your every word further confirms it. Keep writing, you may just convince yourself of what I am pointing out to you.

Yes, this further confirms that Banezian isn't even Catholic.  He also clearly rejects EENS.  How can you be closer to an explicit professed schismatic and/or heretic than to a conservative Novus Ordo type who professes the faith but happens to have adhered materially to some error (yes, I know that many individuals within the Novus Ordo are heretics, but I wasn't referring to these in my post)?

There's only one answer.  Banezian is a smells-and-bells guy.  Because the Orthodox or traddy Anglican types have better smells and bells than the Novus Ordo, Banezian considers them closer to Catholicism.  Unbelievable.  Someone who formally holds the Catholic faith but has a liking for clown Masses is much closer to Catholicism than a formal heretic/schismatic.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #47 on: January 19, 2019, 07:00:58 PM »
Quote from: Banezian on January 19, 2019, 03:03:49 PM
There are various schools of thought when it comes to EENS( Fenton, Garrigou, Muller, etc) Who are you to call people non-Catholics when the Church has said no such thing?

Schools of thought which did not come into existence until the first Jesuit liberals started playing with the notion of EENS around the year 1600.  And the Church's failure to condemn these types does not condone their heresies.  God allowed the Church not to condemn these errors, because without them the great testing of faith that we see in progress today could never have happened.  God willed that the faith be put to the test.  And you are failing badly, Banezian.

Are you a Traditional Catholic at all?  If so, you're in contradiction because everything in Vatican II derives from this Garrigou-articulated distortion of EENS.

I guess that Arianism wasn't heresy until it was formally condemned by the Church after some time.  Until the Church formally and officially condemned it, it too was just a harmless "school of thought".
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #48 on: January 19, 2019, 07:04:04 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on January 19, 2019, 06:53:02 PM
There's only one answer.  Banezian is a smells-and-bells guy.  Because the Orthodox or traddy Anglican types have better smells and bells than the Novus Ordo, Banezian considers them closer to Catholicism.  Unbelievable.  Someone who formally holds the Catholic faith but has a liking for clown Masses is much closer to Catholicism than a formal heretic/schismatic.
St. Peter Julian Eymard – Bad Catholic vs Good Protestant

People often say, “It is better to be a good Protestant than a bad Catholic.” That is not true! That would mean that one could be saved without the true faith. No. A bad Catholic remains a child of the family, although a prodigal; and however great a sinner he may be, he still has a right to mercy. Through his faith, a bad Catholic is nearer to God than a Protestant, for he is a member of the household, whereas the heretic is not. And how hard it is to make him become one!
St. Peter Julian Eymard
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan?
« Reply #49 on: January 19, 2019, 07:06:43 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on January 19, 2019, 07:04:04 PM
St. Peter Julian Eymard – Bad Catholic vs Good Protestant

People often say, “It is better to be a good Protestant than a bad Catholic.” That is not true! That would mean that one could be saved without the true faith. No. A bad Catholic remains a child of the family, although a prodigal; and however great a sinner he may be, he still has a right to mercy. Through his faith, a bad Catholic is nearer to God than a Protestant, for he is a member of the household, whereas the heretic is not. And how hard it is to make him become one!
St. Peter Julian Eymard

Yes, this emphasis on the superficial over substance is emotional and not intellectual ... and, therefore, exceedingly effeminate.
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