Author Topic: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan? (Read 14393 times)

Matto · « **Reply #30 on:** January 18, 2019, 02:00:38 PM »

Quote from: Banezian on January 18, 2019, 01:57:08 PM

No friend, my reputation is low because I’m not a shallow nut like many on here.

I think your reputation is low because you put on airs and act better than other people as you just did here and because you post on BOD threads. Everyone who posts on BOD threads either pro or contra gets a lot of downvotes.

Banezian · « **Reply #31 on:** January 18, 2019, 02:04:37 PM »

Quote from: Matto on January 18, 2019, 02:00:38 PM

I think your reputation is low because you put on airs and act better than other people as you just did here and because you post on BOD threads.

So he can just come out and call me a non-Catholic? What do you expect me to do? If people on here politely disagreed instead of calling each other heret8cs and non-Catholics, this would be a better place

forlorn · « **Reply #32 on:** January 18, 2019, 02:36:21 PM »

Quote from: Banezian on January 18, 2019, 01:54:29 PM

No. There are various understandings on EENS. Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange says
“Theologians in general are inclined to fill out what Scripture and tradition tell us by distinguishing the means of salvation given to Catholics from those that are given men of good will beyond the borders of the Church. …If we are treating of all Christians, of all who have been baptized, Catholic, schismatic, Protestant, it is more probable, theologians generally say, that the great number is saved. First, the number of infants who die in the state of grace before reaching the age of reason is very great. Secondly, many Protestants, being today in good faith, can be reconciled to God by an act of contrition, particularly in danger of death. Thirdly, schismatics can receive a valid absolution.”

Fr. Garrigou-Lagrange was a fairly recent Priest in the grand scheme of things, seeing as the Church is 2,000 years old. To pass the "is it innovation?" test, we should see examples of the Church teaching that centuries ago. I've never heard of any theologian before the 1800s saying a Protesant or schismatic could be saved. What's also suspect is that he says "the great number is saved". Now, while I respect him, this is completely contrary to what the Church has always taught, which is that not even the great number(meaning the majority) of Catholics are saved. So it seems like innovation to me.

Matto · « **Reply #33 on:** January 18, 2019, 02:40:08 PM »

Quote from: Banezian on January 18, 2019, 02:04:37 PM

So he can just come out and call me a non-Catholic? What do you expect me to do? If people on here politely disagreed instead of calling each other heret8cs and non-Catholics, this would be a better place

I said what I said about you because I thought it to be true of you based on my experience with you on the forum from reading many of your posts and arguments. What I thought you did was basically condemn the forum in general for giving you more downvotes than upvotes and call those without a bad reputation "shallow nut"s though I don't know if you meant it that way. But what do I expect you to do? Wonder if perhaps the reason you get so many down-votes is because you are wrong about some things. I know I say wrong things all the time, perhaps GLG was not right about everything and you are mistaken in following him. Go over to Suscipe Domine and start arguments with Quaremerepulisti over GLG, though he has a very different perspective than those on Cathinfo. It would certainly be interesting. I would read those arguments glady, as I think you are relatively learned and I respect you, even though I do not agree with you about some things, and he is a sharp tack, though I am sure many on Cathinfo would not consider QMR to be a Catholic so you are in the same boat as him. But as for that quote of GLG, the same quote has been posted on Cathinfo multiple times as proof that GLG was a liberal and false conservative, and it does trouble me a bit, as I always thought that the number of those saved was small and that a protestant or orthodox would have to renounce their false religion to be saved and die as Catholics.

rum · « **Reply #34 on:** January 18, 2019, 04:39:28 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on January 17, 2019, 11:42:52 AM

While the man seems to be very strong on Catholic morals, and he would be far preferable to any other politician out there, I do suspect that his inclinations toward the Tridentine Mass may be simply a function of his overall foppish tendencies ... so, as someone else said, a smells and bells man.

Smell-and-bells is right.

Rees-Mogg wouldn't end abortion were he to become PM. He's on record stating that abortion law will not change. He's the type typical in right-wing politics who conveniently separate what they claim are their personal beliefs from public policy when it comes to anything which would jeopardize the social engineering of Jews.

This isn't to say people shouldn't vote for Jew-chosen frauds. When it's the only game in town then you can vote for the Jew-chosen fraud who is more to your liking. I did vote for Trump, after all, knowing well before I did so that he's as much a tool of the Jews (if not a crypto) as the next guy.

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Author Topic: Could the British Prime Minister be a Daily Rosary Saying, Tridentine Mass fan? (Read 14393 times)

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