Author Topic: The true Nature of the American Constitution (Read 9856 times)

CM · « **Reply #15 on:** August 16, 2010, 05:39:56 PM »

Quote from: Pope Pius IX, Vatican Council, Sess. 4, Ch. 4, On the Infallible Teaching Authority of the Roman Pontiff, July 18, 1870, [i

ex cathedra[/i]]For the Holy Spirit was promised to the successors of Peter not so that they might, by his revelation, make known some new doctrine, but that, by his assistance, they might religiously guard and faithfully expound the revelation or deposit of faith transmitted by the apostles.

This is the dogma that Myrna was talking about. God has revealed what He has revealed, and therefore there can be no new revelations from which to draw new doctrine. But, in many questions He did so in a general fashion, since the Apostles and the world were as yet unable to bear them in their fullness, hence we need a Vicar of Christ on earth to settle disputes as to the true meaning of revelation. He therefore ordained that by the Holy Ghost it would be St. Peter and his successors who should "teach all truth" (St. John 16:12-13 , 21:15-18), and "bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you" (St. John 14:26).

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How do we know 'what the Church teaches',

By believing first those things which are infallible and measuring all other things against that, rejecting what is contrary (and those who offer it) and retaining what conforms. (Galatians 1:8-9)

Belloc · « **Reply #16 on:** August 20, 2010, 01:00:45 PM »

Emer, wow, well done! :cheers:

hey, maybe Cm and ClassiFallible can be allies here.....hm... :furtive:

CM · « **Reply #17 on:** August 20, 2010, 05:01:47 PM »

Did you take an oath to defend the American Constitution Belloc? Including "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion"?

Virgil the Roman · « **Reply #18 on:** August 25, 2010, 11:48:19 PM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

Quote from: CM
No. You will not attempt to argue against me because your lack of orthodoxy would be exposed.

Thats not true,
I am a traditional Catholic that believes ALL the sacred truths which the Holy Catholic Church teaches.
I just dont think you are worth arguing with. I just really want to see you gone from here, and am trying to keep the forum alerted to your presence for the sake of newcomers.

Thanks for the heads up. I looked at CM's blog. Yeah..... :heretic:

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #19 on:** August 26, 2010, 09:03:27 AM »

Quote from: Virgil the Roman

Quote from: Emerentiana
Quote from: CM
No. You will not attempt to argue against me because your lack of orthodoxy would be exposed.

Thats not true,
I am a traditional Catholic that believes ALL the sacred truths which the Holy Catholic Church teaches.
I just dont think you are worth arguing with. I just really want to see you gone from here, and am trying to keep the forum alerted to your presence for the sake of newcomers.

Thanks for the heads up. I looked at CM's blog. Yeah..... :heretic:

Well you're new here, so I'll warn you more about WHY CM should be avoided. He thinks he's Pope. Literally. Someone else here thinks they are as well.