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Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2020, 12:47:32 PM »
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  • Ahhh, Minnesota...


    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-livestock-insight/piglets-aborted-chickens-gassed-as-pandemic-slams-meat-sector-idUSKCN2292YS

    Piglets aborted, chickens gassed as pandemic slams meat sector
    Tom Polansek, P.J. Huffstutter


    CHICAGO (Reuters) - With the pandemic hobbling the meat-packing industry, Iowa farmer Al Van Beek had nowhere to ship his full-grown pigs to make room for the 7,500 piglets he expected from his breeding operation. The crisis forced a decision that still troubles him: He ordered his employees to give injections to the pregnant sows, one by one, that would cause them to abort their baby pigs.

    Van Beek and other farmers say they have no choice but to cull livestock as they run short on space to house their animals or money to feed them, or both. The world’s biggest meat companies - including Smithfield Foods Inc, Cargill Inc, JBS USA and Tyson Foods Inc - have halted operations at about 20 slaughterhouses and processing plants in North America since April as workers fall ill, stoking global fears of a meat shortage.
    Van Beek’s piglets are victims of a sprawling food-industry crisis that began with the mass closure of restaurants - upending that sector’s supply chain, overwhelming storage and forcing farmers and processors to destroy everything from milk to salad greens to animals. Processors geared up to serve the food-service industry can’t immediately switch to supplying grocery stores.
    Millions of pigs, chickens and cattle will be euthanized because of slaughterhouse closures, limiting supplies at grocers, said John Tyson, chairman of top U.S. meat supplier Tyson Foods.

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    Pork has been hit especially hard, with daily production cut by about a third. Unlike cattle, which can be housed outside on pasture, U.S. hogs are fattened up for slaughter inside temperature-controlled buildings. If they are housed too long, they can get too big and injure themselves. The barns need to be emptied out by sending adult hogs to slaughter before the arrival of new piglets from sows that were impregnated just before the pandemic.
    “We have nowhere to go with the pigs,” said Van Beek, who lamented the waste of so much meat. “What are we going to do?”
    In Minnesota, farmers Kerry and Barb Mergen felt their hearts pound when a crew from Daybreak Foods Inc arrived with carts and tanks of carbon dioxide to euthanize their 61,000 egg-laying hens earlier this month.
    Daybreak Foods, based in Lake Mills, Wisconsin, supplies liquid eggs to restaurants and food-service companies. The company, which owns the birds, pays contract farmers like the Mergens to feed and care for them. Drivers normally load the eggs onto trucks and haul them to a plant in Big Lake, Minnesota, which uses them to make liquid eggs for restaurants and ready-to-serve dishes for food-service companies. But the plant’s operator, Cargill Inc, said it idled the facility because the pandemic reduced demand. [/font][/size]

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    Daybreak Foods, which has about 14.5 million hens with contractor-run or company-owned farms in the Midwest, is trying to switch gears and ship eggs to grocery stores, said Chief Executive Officer William Rehm. But egg cartons are in shortage nationwide and the company now must grade each egg for size, he said.
    Rehm declined to say how much of the company’s flock has been euthanized.
    “We’re trying to balance our supply with our customers’ needs, and still keep everyone safe - including all of our people and all our hens,” Rehm said.
    DUMPING HOGS IN A LANDFILL
    In Iowa, farmer Dean Meyer said he is part of a group of about nine producers who are euthanizing the smallest 5% of their newly born pigs, or about 125 piglets a week. They will continue euthanizing animals until disruptions ease, and could increase the number of pigs killed each week, he said. The small bodies are composted and will become fertilizer. Meyer’s group is also killing mother hogs, or sows, to reduce their numbers, he said.



    Hog farmer Mike Patterson's animals, who have been put on a diet so they take longer to fatten up due to the supply chain disruptions caused by coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreaks, at his property in Kenyon, Minnesota, U.S. April 23, 2020. REUTERS/Nicholas Pfosi


    “Packers are backed up every day, more and more,” said Meyer.
    As the United States faces a possible food shortage, and supermarkets and food banks are struggling to meet demand, the forced slaughters are becoming more widespread across the country, according to agricultural economists, farm trade groups and federal lawmakers who are hearing from farmer constituents.
    Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds, along with both U.S. senators from a state that provides a third of the nation’s pork, sent a letter to the Trump administration pleading for financial help and assistance with culling animals and properly disposing of their carcasses.
    “There are 700,000 pigs across the nation that cannot be processed each week and must be humanely euthanized,” said the April 27 letter.
    The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) said late Friday it is establishing a National Incident Coordination Center to help farmers find markets for their livestock, or euthanize and dispose of animals if necessary.


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    Some producers who breed livestock and sell baby pigs to farmers are now giving them away for free, farmers said, translating to a loss about $38 on each piglet, according to commodity firm Kerns & Associates.
    Farmers in neighboring Canada are also killing animals they can’t sell or afford to feed. The value of Canadian isoweans - baby pigs – has fallen to zero because of U.S. processing plant disruptions, said Rick Bergmann, a Manitoba hog farmer and chair of the Canadian Pork Council. In Quebec alone, a backlog of 92,000 pigs waits for slaughter, said Quebec hog producer Rene Roy, an executive with the pork council.
    A hog farm on Prince Edward Island in Canada euthanized 270-pound hogs that were ready for slaughter because there was no place to process them, Bergmann said. The animals were dumped in a landfill.
    DEATH THREATS
    The latest economic disaster to befall the farm sector comes after years of extreme weather, sagging commodity prices and the Trump administration’s trade war with China and other key export markets. But it’s more than lost income. The pandemic barreling through farm towns has mired rural communities in despair, a potent mix of shame and grief.
    Farmers take pride in the fact that their crops and animals are meant to feed people, especially in a crisis that has idled millions of workers and forced many to rely on food banks. Now, they’re destroying crops and killing animals for no purpose.
    Farmers flinch when talking about killing off animals early or plowing crops into the ground, for fear of public wrath. Two Wisconsin dairy farmers, forced to dump milk by their buyers, told Reuters they recently received anonymous death threats.
    “They say, ‘How dare you throw away food when so many people are hungry?’,” said one farmer, speaking on condition of anonymity. “They don’t know how farming works. This makes me sick, too.”
    Even as livestock and crop prices plummet, prices for meat and eggs at grocery stores are up. The average retail price of eggs was up nearly 40% for the week ended April 18, compared to a year earlier, according to Nielsen data. Average retail fresh chicken prices were up 5.4%, while beef was up 5.8% and pork up 6.6%.
    On Van Beek’s farm in Rock Valley, Iowa, one hog broke a leg because it grew too heavy while waiting to be slaughtered. He has delivered pigs to facilities that are still operating, but they are too full to take all of his animals.
    Van Beek paid $2,000 to truck pigs about seven hours to a Smithfield plant in Illinois, more than quadruple the usual cost to haul them to a Sioux Falls, South Dakota, slaughterhouse that the company has closed indefinitely. He said Smithfield is supposed to pay the extra transportation costs under his contract. But the company is refusing to do so, claiming “force majeure” – that an extraordinary and unforeseeable event prevents it from fulfilling its agreement.
    Smithfield, the world’s largest pork processor, declined to comment on whether it has refused to make contracted payments. It said the company is working with suppliers “to navigate these challenging and unprecedented times.”
    Hog farmers nationwide will lose an estimated $5 billion, or $37 per head, for the rest of the year due to pandemic disruptions, according to the industry group National Pork Producers Council.
    A recently announced $19 billion U.S. government coronavirus aid package for farmers will not pay for livestock that are culled, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation, the nation’s largest farmer trade group. The USDA said in a statement the payment program is still being developed and the agency has received more requests for assistance than it has money to handle.
    Minnesota farmer Mike Patterson started feeding his pigs more soybean hulls – which fill animals’ stomachs but offer negligible nutritional value – to keep them from getting too large for their barns. He’s considering euthanizing them because he cannot find enough buyers after Smithfield indefinitely shut its massive Sioux Falls plant.
    “They have to be housed humanely,” Patterson said. “If there’s not enough room, we have to have less hogs somehow. One way or another, we’ve got to have less hogs.[/font][/size]
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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #16 on: April 28, 2020, 03:52:37 PM »
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  • Time to learn to butcher, men....


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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #17 on: April 28, 2020, 04:16:36 PM »
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  • My husband has said for years it's irresponsible not to save seeds, to buy hens only for laying that no longer have the instinct to go broody, etc. Folks rolled their eyes at him. Now folks are suddenly on board with him.

    We cannot rely on seed banks to buy seeds from, big hatcheries and corporations to grow or raise up our food. I fear it's coming to a point that simply buying seeds and buying feed for your chickens will no longer cut it. Time to learn homesteading skills and quick.
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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #18 on: April 28, 2020, 09:15:05 PM »
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  • What is the government doing about this?

    This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?

    Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?

    What kind of clown world system are we in?

    It's hard to refute the Communists when crap like this is going on in Capitalist USA. I thought "The Profit Motive" made industry most efficient, made it work well, etc.?

    If I weren't a hard-core anti-Communist for religious reasons, I would sure be tempted to think that a State takeover of all farms, processing plants, warehouses, storage facilities, and grocery stores would be for the betterment of mankind. Think of all the starving people in America and elsewhere, as these farmers literally plough recently "euthanized" pigs into the ground -- right next to the hundreds of gallons of milk they just dumped!

    Maybe the problem is everyone is so lazy, they are only fit for (and ripe for) a Communist government, which is what we're going to get. In the 1950's you'd have guys buying up these hogs, starting businesses, slaughtering and selling them, etc.

    Today, the young people who SHOULD have the most energy, drive, and motivation are millennials and zoomers sitting at home in front of various screens, complaining there are no good jobs. We're screwed.
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    Offline SeanJohnson

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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #19 on: April 28, 2020, 09:35:26 PM »
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  • What is the government doing about this?

    This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?

    Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?

    What kind of clown world system are we in?

    It's hard to refute the Communists when crap like this is going on in Capitalist USA. I thought "The Profit Motive" made industry most efficient, made it work well, etc.?

    If I weren't a hard-core anti-Communist for religious reasons, I would sure be tempted to think that a State takeover of all farms, processing plants, warehouses, storage facilities, and grocery stores would be for the betterment of mankind. Think of all the starving people in America and elsewhere, as these farmers literally plough recently "euthanized" pigs into the ground -- right next to the hundreds of gallons of milk they just dumped!

    Maybe the problem is everyone is so lazy, they are only fit for (and ripe for) a Communist government, which is what we're going to get. In the 1950's you'd have guys buying up these hogs, starting businesses, slaughtering and selling them, etc.

    Today, the young people who SHOULD have the most energy, drive, and motivation are millennials and zoomers sitting at home in front of various screens, complaining there are no good jobs. We're screwed.

    In the least read of all Fr. Fahey’s books (The Church and Farming), he relates a humorous story about government subsidized farming, which goes something like this:

    A farmer is mystified about how, allegedly, the “law” of supply and demand can cause the government to want to pay him NOT to plant crops in his 40 acres.

    Thinking about it a bit more, the farmer turns to his wife and declares, “Just imagine how much money I could have made if I didn’t plant 1,000 acres!!”

    And there, Matthew, is what is broken in capitalism:

    Supply/demand is inherently vulnerable to market manipulation (eg., government subsidization of various industries, etc.).

    Hillaire Belloc (a contemporary of Fr. Fahey) wrote a book called “The Servile State,” whose primary thesis is that capitalism leads to communism (in part, because of the discontentment such unjust practices engender in the people, who suffer the injustices of deliberate inflation and deflation, both of which are taxes), among other things.

    I think we are seeing that very transformation transpire before our very eyes.

    They are killing the country because we can no longer pay our bankers back.  So they will flip the coin, and allow Russia to become capitalist, while America will soon relive Solzhenitsyn’s nightmare.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #20 on: April 28, 2020, 10:22:54 PM »
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  • Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #21 on: April 29, 2020, 12:08:01 AM »
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  • My husband has said for years it's irresponsible not to save seeds, to buy hens only for laying that no longer have the instinct to go broody, etc. Folks rolled their eyes at him. Now folks are suddenly on board with him.

    We cannot rely on seed banks to buy seeds from, big hatcheries and corporations to grow or raise up our food. I fear it's coming to a point that simply buying seeds and buying feed for your chickens will no longer cut it. Time to learn homesteading skills and quick.
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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #22 on: April 29, 2020, 06:00:40 AM »
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  • What is the government doing about this?

    This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?

    Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?

    This is obviously being done on purpose.  There's enough demand that the stores of running out, and yet they're destroying livestock.  Simple capitalistic greed would ensure that the demand in stores was met.  There are no economic laws to explain this.


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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #23 on: April 29, 2020, 08:30:14 AM »
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    What is broken with the system?
    Most of the governors, mayors, politicians, cardinals, bishops, priests, CEOs, and executives are all of the same "brotherhood".  The system isn't broken, but controlled.

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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #24 on: April 29, 2020, 09:31:22 AM »
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  • What is the government doing about this?

    This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?

    Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?

    What kind of clown world system are we in?

    I'm surprised that you would ask such a question. Have you not read anything posted here about the NWO?

    In brief: The world system we have had, since at least WWI,  is a system where gradually less and less people control the world and all of its resources. The goal is a world where a handful of men run everything and the population is reduced to 1 billion. The lifeblood of the system is the Federal Reserve Note, which they can just print, and with it they have bought the whole world.  It is not about democracy, capitalism, communism, socialism, those are just tools of the NWO. You can start by reading the book None Dare Call It a Conspiracy, I even started a thread on the book here:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/none-dare-call-it-a-conspiracy/msg695622/#msg695622


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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #25 on: April 29, 2020, 09:52:05 AM »
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  • https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2020/01/22/798515259/ready-for-meat-grown-from-animal-cells-a-startup-plans-a-pilot-plant?t=1588112626721


    Is this why Tyson closed? Looks like they are ready to prodcue a diferent type of food. With the help of Bill Gates!


    Memphis Meats, a Berkeley, Calif.-based startup, says it's one step closer to bringing cell-based meat to consumers' mouths.
    The company plans to build a pilot production facility with funds raised from high-profile investors including Bill Gates, Richard Branson and Kimbal Musk, as well as two giant players in the animal protein and feed space, Cargill and Tyson Foods. The company says its latest funding round has brought in $161 million in new investment.

    "People thought this was all science fiction" when the company was founded back in 2015, Uma Valeti, the co-founder and CEO of Memphis Meats, told NPR in an interview at the company's headquarters. "Everything that we've done at Memphis Meats [has] started to show that this can be done," Valeti said. "This is real."

    Interest in cell-based meat production and other meat alternatives has increased amid growing awareness of the environmental impact of traditional livestock agriculture.

    Valeti and his team walked us through the process of producing cell-based meat. It starts with the selection of specific types of animal cells that can grow to become meat. Next, the cells are fed and put in a "cultivator" — similar to a fermenting tank — where they can grow and form muscle and connective tissue. The process is analogous to the way breweries grow yeast cells to produce beer. Only here, they're growing animal cells.

    Memphis Meats CEO Uma Valeti (right) stands with Morgan Rease, the company's formulations scientist, while they cook up a sample of cell-based chicken.
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    I got the chance to sample Memphis Meats' chicken, which was pan-sautéed with some oil and served with greens. It tasted pretty close to chicken breast produced the traditional way — but without as much textural variation among bits of muscle, fat and connective tissue. The pilot production facility, which is expected to be built in the next 18 to 24 months, will allow the company to scale up and experiment with its meat products, which also include duck and beef.

    But Memphis Meats and its competitors face quite a few hurdles in bringing cell-based meats to market. For starters, the cost of production needs to come down. Back in 2018, Wired reported that a pound of Memphis Meats takes $2,400 to produce, in part because of the expensive growth mediums — or feed — needed to culture cells.

    "Our costs have continued to come down significantly over the last three years," Valeti told us in an email Wednesday. "We have a clear path to bringing a cost competitive product to market as we scale our production and that's part of what our latest funding round will help us to unlock," Valeti said. He said the company will continue to work on developing low-cost feed for the cells, which is one significant piece of the puzzle.

    Decisions over how best to label, regulate and inspect cell-based meats are another challenge. In late 2018, the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced that the two agencies would share regulatory oversight, but there are still many issues to resolve.

    "The agencies have outlined a path to market, Valeti said, "and we will continue providing them with the information they need to fill in the details."

    THE SALT
    Dairy Ice Cream, No Cow Needed: These Egg And Milk Proteins Are Made Without Animals


    Memphis Meats has plenty of competitors in the space, and some of them are seeking regulatory approval outside the United States. As of last year, there were 27 cell-based meat and seafood companies around the world, according to the Good Food Institute. These include Just Foods, which is developing wagyu beef using cells from prized cows. In addition, several companies are aiming to produce cell-based fish products.


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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #26 on: April 29, 2020, 09:59:28 AM »
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  • https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/04/28/bill-gates-is-partnered-with-al-gore-and-jack-ma-on-a-fake-meat-company-to-replace-the-cattle-pork-and-poultry-industries-hence-the-engineered-collapse-of-all-slaughter-plants-and-the-meat-industry/

    [From Ann The last article she mentions is the one I have posted above.]

    Bill Gates is partnered with Al Gore and Jack Ma on a fake meat company to replace the cattle, pork and poultry industries, hence the engineered collapse of all slaughter plants and the meat industry in North America
    Just when you think this evil SOB Gates has maxed-out his card with the Bank of Hell, there’s more. It is clear that Gates has been pre-positioning himself to benefit and control damn-near every aspect of life for years in anticipation of this totally fake “plandemic”.

    The company is called NATURE’S FYND.


    Glowing article from last month in Forbes detailing Nature’s Fynd submitting data for approval to enter the CHINESE market.


    And here is 
    ANOTHER fake meat company Gates is in on with Richard Branson and Elon Musk’s brother.

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    Re: Something fishy - what is Tyson up to?
    « Reply #27 on: April 29, 2020, 10:26:24 AM »
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  • What is the government doing about this?

    This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?

    Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?

    What kind of clown world system are we in?

    It's hard to refute the Communists when crap like this is going on in Capitalist USA. I thought "The Profit Motive" made industry most efficient, made it work well, etc.?

    If I weren't a hard-core anti-Communist for religious reasons, I would sure be tempted to think that a State takeover of all farms, processing plants, warehouses, storage facilities, and grocery stores would be for the betterment of mankind. Think of all the starving people in America and elsewhere, as these farmers literally plough recently "euthanized" pigs into the ground -- right next to the hundreds of gallons of milk they just dumped!

    Maybe the problem is everyone is so lazy, they are only fit for (and ripe for) a Communist government, which is what we're going to get. In the 1950's you'd have guys buying up these hogs, starting businesses, slaughtering and selling them, etc.

    Today, the young people who SHOULD have the most energy, drive, and motivation are millennials and zoomers sitting at home in front of various screens, complaining there are no good jobs. We're screwed.
    This is precisely where a universal draft, all men --- and women --- of a certain age (women want "equality", let's give 'em "equality"!) would come in handy.  A crash course in Meatpacking 101, then off to the processing plants.  And some could end up learning a useful trade.  Ditto for farming in general.